This is a wonderful, wonderful genre of music, and I hope it will live past the "contemporary" Christian music of the "worship team" of churches today. These songs contain solid theology and shouldn't be shunned as old-fashioned.
Karen White you are so right. Modern Christianity as with so much of modernity-in either its conservative or liberal manifestations, feels like a debasement of Christ’s teaching and love.
Amen Karen!!!!! As with all things modern, "worship music" as it is called, is a perversion of "speaking to yourselves in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs". Instruments don't speak, these primitive baptists knew this, so did Charles Spurgeon, Luther, and Wesley, it's strange that somehow the average Christian can't figure out such a well understood, and universally held Bible doctrine.
Well to help it continue why not join a Shape Note singing group? No experience necessary and they are so friendly. I like the fact that it is designed not for performance but for the communal benefit of the singers. Some people go for the music and others for the spiritual aspects of the words. I do know that whatever the reason we sing Gods praises, the Holy Spirit turns up.
I am an alcoholic that currently Hates myself and my life I am filled with so much shame and regret, and feel that due to my sins and actions the spirit of God has left me. I have almost given up hope in myself, but after listening to this song I felt God for the first time in a long time. Please pray that I can one day find peace, because now my life is a train wreck. I grew up in the church but have turned my back on god, I want to have a relationship with him agian and be happy
He never left you. You left him, and the fallen one tricked you into thinking it was permanent. Open your heart to him, brother. It isn’t just saying it or feeling it. Make an effort to rid your life of each cursed idol that plagues it and he will surely fight with you and free you from your torment. It took me a long time to do this. I myself am a convicted felon, and once lived a life riddled with nothing but hideous, unspeakable sin. He has freed me. I will struggle for the rest of my days, but with his love and grace I am guided to forgiveness. He loves you, just as he loves me, and all the rest of his children here on earth. Good luck to you, friend.
Jesus Christ has borne your shame and claimed you as His own. United with Him by faith, baptized into the likeness of His death, you are raised with Him, to sit with Him in the heavenly realms, where He sits, at the Father's right hand, waiting till His enemies be made His footstool. You are there with Him already.
I’m a high church Anglican, involved in several choirs and have sung in a few cathedrals with massive organs and soaring acoustics...and yet I hear this and can understand immediately how one wouldn’t need anything else. Organic and beautiful.
I'm Catholic, and I *love* shape-note hymnody. I lent a CD of the Alabama Sacred Harp Singers (from the 1940s) to our former parish priest, and he said it sounded "liturgical" -- his term. It derives from plainchant and Celtic balladry, so that makes sense, right? The melodies are hauntingly beautiful, and the lyrics are tough and sinewy and yet perfectly poetical. As Karen White says below, these hymns are so much sounder theologically than a lot of contemporary Christian shmaltz. And as for our Catholic "Glory and Praise" schlock -- there's no comparison, LOL. My pipe dream for my own little rural mission parish here in NC: We should take all our liturgical music from the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal *plus* the Sacred Harp Songbook. :)
Try a Southern Primitive Baptist Church sometime. They sing Sacred Harp for half an hour before the sermon. There is no Sunday School; that's not Biblical. No pictures; some have a baptism font; many don't. The river works fine, and the Bible doesn't talk about baptism fonts. No instruments. Absolute plainness. Everybody knows everybody. It's kind of like heaven.
@@dianekamer8341 The Catholic church has all but abandoned its rich heritage of plain chant, and masters like Palestrina, Victoria, Tallis and Byrd are rarely heard outside cathedrals. Some shape note songs are liturgically ambiguous, others are patriotic tunes or have secular underpinnings but the vast majority are entirely appropriate for sacred settings (in my opinion). Indeed, protestant songs like Amazing Grace/New Britain are routinely sung in Catholic churches. Compared to the childish nonsense that passes for modern psalmody (Lord of the Dance?) or Christian rock (sic), most shape note songs are liturgical exemplars.
@@glendapeterson1180 well hardshell primitve baptists dont ever invite anyone to church anyways cause they thing everything is lready determined so why bother? many a soul will end up in hell because those who think they know God, never warned them of the coming destruction and salvation offered in Jesus. thank God i am from one of those "liberal" primitive baptist churches that goes into the highways and byways to tell the world to "come see a man" to compel them to come in that His house may be filled
Oh praise His holy name. That was very very beautiful. There's nothing like pure love for the Savior ascending up to the heavens through the simplicity of the human voice. No instruments, just pure and simple love for God through Christ. Absolutely beautiful.
definitely agree with Ludvig there, it is nowhere near close to dying. If you search for sacred harp online, you'll find an almost worldwide community network of singers available for you. I highly suggest you find one and join, it's so enriching and familial, and absolutely no pressure to be in line with any religious doctrine, unless you so choose it.
Well, this isn't "Sacred Harp", _per se_ . It's not even the same style, but it's close enough that a person who's interested in one will likely appreciate the other. I agree however, that Sacred Harp is alive and well, thriving at teh moment. We'll see if that lasts, but I don't think it's going to "die out" anytime soon. Even if a lot of the newcomers prove fickle in the long run, the number of dedicated singers added over the last 10-20 years will leave it in a better place than it was 30-40 years ago.
From what I'm hearing compared to looking at the Walker's edition, the only difference is the soprano and tenor are switched. It seems to be the same otherwise.
Of course you're religious. (Or spiritual, as some would put it) The ability to recognize the beauty of different voices becoming one, or to be moved by the words, that's beyond intellect. The recognition that "Jesus has loved me, I cannot tell why" I, in his dear breast find pardon and red", the realization that there's love for you whether or not you deserve it, what else is that but religious? Believers would say God made us and our ability to love, in his image. Non-believers would say we invented God from our image of our best selves. For practical purposes, what's the difference? Humanity striving to give and accept unconditional love, live truthfully, forgive self and others, that's religious.
We just visited this church a couple of weeks ago, and I thought of this type of singing as I looked around. Just think of the inhabitants of Cade’s Cove, the way they lived, coming together to share and cultivate their faith in this setting. Thank you for making this music.
What beauty. His grace and exclusive perfection was so strong with you all when you sang this- it was so tangible even through a screen and a speaker! You all served as his vessel today and helped me more than I could ever explain. Blessed is the name of the lord
This could be my Church or family as I was raised in a Primitive Baptist family, my grandfather was a PB preacher, I had 3 uncles that were PB preachers, 2 cousins and my brother. We were a large family as my dad was one of 8 and my mom was 1 of 5. Most of us living in a 50 mile radius. When growing up you didn’t need friends as you had so many cousins. We got together every Sunday for Church and ended upstate someone’s house. Our time was spend singing from Harp of Ages and the PB Hymnal. I have some great memories and recordings.
You were blessed brother. I am a son of a PB preacher myself out of san antonio. I desire to get back into the church but not many if all PB churches only in CO springs.
Tried and tested over hundreds of years, modern worship music will not pass the test of time in importance as that of those people who brought with them the very light of Christianity and the reformation. May God bless and help us.
This is so beautiful - I have learned this song singing it with you, and I wish all the blessings on all of you all your lives. Thank you for singing this.
Utilizing an earpiece, I'm able to separate each voice, singing his/her own melody. Beautiful, humbling work brings me to tears. Bless you dear vocal artists for sharing your gifts and your faith.
I was just reminiscing about last March when I went to some Primitive Baptist Churches in Georgia as I was there for a Shape Note Gathering in Waycross. Such a wonderful, truly "spiritual" experience singing this style in old, tiny country churches with folks with Big Hearts and Souls for the Lord Jesus!
well the folks u were in the singing with probly werent primitive baptists, altho a few of them might have been. many PB's believe in predestination so strongly that they wouldnt walk across the street to tell their neighbor of about the savior. they will excommunicate a member for simply attending another church. they wont invite anyone to their church either, because it doesnt change the outcome or destiny of a persons soul anyways. 75% of their churches are empty, and most of the others only have 10 or 20 people. they worship their tradition more than God. most PB associations wont even take members from another PB association because of some obscure difference in tradition or theology. thank God theres a few who arent like this, such as the eastern district association of PB's or the original tenn. assoc.
I think ChristIN was probably referring to Mars Hill Church between Hoboken and Waycross, which is indeed PB. There is a Cooper Book Sacred Harp convention at the Hoboken elementary school every March, which is probably what ChristIN attended. That convention has largely been sustained by the Lee family, who are also (most of them) members of Mars Hill PB. They and the rest of the congregation welcome the visiting Sacred Harp singers to the church in the evening after the convention to sing from Lloyd's and the red Old Line hymnal. I'm happy to say that I've always found the Mars Hill folks perfectly hospitable and kind, despite me being of very different religious convictions. It's not the denomination I'd pick for myself, but there's good as well as bad in it.
I mention Mars Hill in particular because I'm pretty sure that's the congregation ChristIN was referring to, but I've got an equally warm welcome as an outsider at Grace Chapel (Memphis) and Crooked Creek (Iola, IL), among others. Decent apples amid the bushel both.
@@caman171 it seems like you had some negative experiences and I’m sorry for that. My life among Primitive Baptists has been joyful. I do wonder why you brought up numbers. God never did his work through the largest group or used a multitude to conquer. It was one person here or a small group there. I’m happy to worship with our church or 20 in Littlefield, TX, if we are worshiping in spirit and in truth. May I suggest not throwing rocks at others and charactering all PBs together based on your experience with one or two?
@@randall-king well thx for ur reply. I am not bitter. as for numbers, thats where the problem lies. yes God absolutely uses one person or a small group...but when he does the outcome brings harvest. to be "happy" in a church that has only 20 people is horrific to me, UNLESS they are reaching out to bring others to the saviour. If you are "happy" with 20 folks and not preaching to EVERY creature the message of salvation, then ur "happiness" will turn bitter at the judgement. if u arent reaching the lost, u most def are NOT worshipping in "truth"...and if u read my whole comment, i gladly stated not all PB's are like this, and even named one group who was not. another group who isnt like this is the Original Tennessee Association of PB's..it was this assoc that Cades Cove Church belonged (the church in this video) before it was part of the national park. one very dear friend was saved in one of their churches and i praise God for them. Thank God the apostle Paul and Peter didnt stay with their "little flock" and went around the world telling the Good News. If God is not adding to your church, then maybe ur church is not His church. i sincerely hope u have made ur calling and election sure my friend. If u dont have a burden for souls and wish to "gather them as a hen gathers her chicks" as Jesus taught, i must wonder, not for me to decide tho.
O tell me no more of this worlds vain store- so true, I have lived in the world, it has nothing but half fulfillment offering full gratitude, misery, depression and false hopes
I was raised primitive baptist, we did not sing sacred harp in church, but many of the members attended sacred harp singing conventions, wish i would have been able to go. many of the primitive baptist songs have this type of sound. we sang acapella as instruments not used in church. going to go to a singing tomorrow for the first time to see if i can learn this.
These young people, except for two, were all born and raised in Primitive Baptist churches. They grew up always singing the notes first, especially at sacred harp singings. This was spontaneous, unplanned. I think they were just after the words and music this time.
Love this one best of all their recordings! We used to sing it quite often at our church from the Lloyd's Primitive Hymns book, but we used a different tune. I enjoyed this one much better! I wish it was on Amazon so I could buy it for my phone! :)
Great singers, and a great place to sing. Such great acoustics for this kind of harmony. There is an old meeting house from 1828 near here, all totally original inside. It's quite a big bigger than this, but I wonder if it would work for a sing?
@@kannlowery The Pastor at Little Zion in Bellflower, CA is Elder Joe Holder. He is a wonderful man and a very learned and most able preacher. This is a sweet church with exceptional fellowship. I know folks who travel from San Diego to attend. They do so because it it is worth it. Their souls are fed. If you wish contact info you can message me.
I wish there is a Primitive Baptist church around here. I live in San Francisco, CA, and according to google, I would have to travel to Oakland, or Fremont. My friends invited me to their churches, and after reading theIr website, I have concluded that one of them is a southern baptist (not this again) and the other is probably closer to a Calvinistic belief or I donno what is because the ‘what is the gospel’ page seems to mention what it means to be a Christian, and ‘true saving faith always responds in obedience,’ which makes me question... are they telling me that King Solomon is not a child of God?
You sound a lot like a Primitive Baptist already! :D I've been to Golden Gate church in Fremont. I would say it would be worth the drive, but since I'm familiar with Bay Area driving, I'll say you could probably get someone to pick you up from the Union City or Fremont BART station. :) I haven't been to the Oakland churches, but I would expect them to be very welcoming and have a little different flavor of worship as African-American PB's. All the California churches have great fellowship with one another and would say you can't go wrong in finding the one you feel led to. It's definitely worth a trip across the bay to see for yourself.
Hey! Just saw your response to this message. Yes! I have been in contact with the Primitive Baptist. An elder has approached me with the scenario of Joshua’s time, when the 2 1/2 tribes lives far from away the tabernacle. Are they children of God? Yes! Are they seeking to serve God? They build an alter as a reminder for all of the Israelites (whether they are part of the 2 1/2 tribes, or 9 1/2 tribes) not for sacrifice and make that alter like another statue, but as a reminder to serve God. He said that there will be children of God who are seeking for the truth, but for whatever reasons they couldn’t attend church on Sundays (could be sickness, far distance, caregivers, etc), but told me not to be discouraged because when we talk about Christ together, that is the treasure in heaven here on earth.
if anyone's interested I boosted the audio quality so it sounds like you're in the middle of the choir. All credit to the original singers and poster of course! www.dropbox.com/s/uj75o20241sremh/O%20Tell%20Me%20No%20More.mp3?dl=0
This is exactly how my grandmother, raised a Primitive Baptist from her birth in 1900, pronounced her words when she sang these Sacred Harp hymns. She grew up in West Virginia and later moved to Virginia. Perhaps you have heard Sacred Harp singers from another region of the US?
Jack, none of these kids are local to that area. They have attended universities, but all except 3 of them grew up in Primitive Baptist churches and most of them grew up singing Sacred Harp. They came together for a weekend in the Smokies and decided to sing at the old Cades Cove church building.
The videos that Logan posted were from impromptu singings. We have a group of friends from various parts of the country that came together several years in a row for a trip to the Smoky Mountains and at some point during each trip we went to Cades Cove to sing.
One of us just spontaneously set up a phone to record. We also recorded this song for our album which you can listen to here: MemphisHarmony.bandcamp.com
@@monologtube my apology, I would never mean to say you should do better, but emphasized that this is the best song I have heard in a while. God bless you all :)
Does anybody know what hymnal they are singing out of? I’ve consulted my Southern Harmony hymnal but I’m pretty sure the harmony lines are different from what they are singing.
The Primitive Baptist Hymnal 2nd ed. This song is included in the sheet music PDF available from Memphis Harmony: memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/merch/boundless-realms-of-joy-sheet-music
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God used this song to take me out of a porn addiction, asthma, and dark depression, and now God has put me in the mission field. Praise the Lord!
my lord this is exquisite. your singing is so melodious and smooth. god bless you all
"When I am to die, receive me I'll cry. For Jesus has loved me, I cannot tell why..." That line gets me every time.
This is a wonderful, wonderful genre of music, and I hope it will live past the "contemporary" Christian music of the "worship team" of churches today. These songs contain solid theology and shouldn't be shunned as old-fashioned.
Karen White you are so right. Modern Christianity as with so much of modernity-in either its conservative or liberal manifestations, feels like a debasement of Christ’s teaching and love.
Amen Karen!!!!! As with all things modern, "worship music" as it is called, is a perversion of "speaking to yourselves in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs". Instruments don't speak, these primitive baptists knew this, so did Charles Spurgeon, Luther, and Wesley, it's strange that somehow the average Christian can't figure out such a well understood, and universally held Bible doctrine.
Well to help it continue why not join a Shape Note singing group? No experience necessary and they are so friendly. I like the fact that it is designed not for performance but for the communal benefit of the singers. Some people go for the music and others for the spiritual aspects of the words. I do know that whatever the reason we sing Gods praises, the Holy Spirit turns up.
It will.
Got married in this very church in 2014 👍😎💒
I am an alcoholic that currently Hates myself and my life I am filled with so much shame and regret, and feel that due to my sins and actions the spirit of God has left me. I have almost given up hope in myself, but after listening to this song I felt God for the first time in a long time. Please pray that I can one day find peace, because now my life is a train wreck. I grew up in the church but have turned my back on god, I want to have a relationship with him agian and be happy
May the Lord have mercy on you, brother!
I prayed for you just now.
He never left you. You left him, and the fallen one tricked you into thinking it was permanent. Open your heart to him, brother. It isn’t just saying it or feeling it. Make an effort to rid your life of each cursed idol that plagues it and he will surely fight with you and free you from your torment. It took me a long time to do this. I myself am a convicted felon, and once lived a life riddled with nothing but hideous, unspeakable sin. He has freed me. I will struggle for the rest of my days, but with his love and grace I am guided to forgiveness. He loves you, just as he loves me, and all the rest of his children here on earth. Good luck to you, friend.
Praying for you
Jesus Christ has borne your shame and claimed you as His own. United with Him by faith, baptized into the likeness of His death, you are raised with Him, to sit with Him in the heavenly realms, where He sits, at the Father's right hand, waiting till His enemies be made His footstool. You are there with Him already.
I’m a high church Anglican, involved in several choirs and have sung in a few cathedrals with massive organs and soaring acoustics...and yet I hear this and can understand immediately how one wouldn’t need anything else. Organic and beautiful.
I'm Catholic, and I *love* shape-note hymnody. I lent a CD of the Alabama Sacred Harp Singers (from the 1940s) to our former parish priest, and he said it sounded "liturgical" -- his term. It derives from plainchant and Celtic balladry, so that makes sense, right? The melodies are hauntingly beautiful, and the lyrics are tough and sinewy and yet perfectly poetical. As Karen White says below, these hymns are so much sounder theologically than a lot of contemporary Christian shmaltz. And as for our Catholic "Glory and Praise" schlock -- there's no comparison, LOL. My pipe dream for my own little rural mission parish here in NC: We should take all our liturgical music from the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal *plus* the Sacred Harp Songbook. :)
Try a Southern Primitive Baptist Church sometime. They sing Sacred Harp for half an hour before the sermon. There is no Sunday School; that's not Biblical. No pictures; some have a baptism font; many don't. The river works fine, and the Bible doesn't talk about baptism fonts. No instruments. Absolute plainness. Everybody knows everybody. It's kind of like heaven.
@@dianekamer8341 The Catholic church has all but abandoned its rich heritage of plain chant, and masters like Palestrina, Victoria, Tallis and Byrd are rarely heard outside cathedrals. Some shape note songs are liturgically ambiguous, others are patriotic tunes or have secular underpinnings but the vast majority are entirely appropriate for sacred settings (in my opinion). Indeed, protestant songs like Amazing Grace/New Britain are routinely sung in Catholic churches. Compared to the childish nonsense that passes for modern psalmody (Lord of the Dance?) or Christian rock (sic), most shape note songs are liturgical exemplars.
I'm a Lutherpalian but happy that I learned some of this music as a boy in the churches if Christ, sadly this forgotten now among those brethren.
@@glendapeterson1180 well hardshell primitve baptists dont ever invite anyone to church anyways cause they thing everything is lready determined so why bother? many a soul will end up in hell because those who think they know God, never warned them of the coming destruction and salvation offered in Jesus. thank God i am from one of those "liberal" primitive baptist churches that goes into the highways and byways to tell the world to "come see a man" to compel them to come in that His house may be filled
Oh praise His holy name. That was very very beautiful. There's nothing like pure love for the Savior ascending up to the heavens through the simplicity of the human voice. No instruments, just pure and simple love for God through Christ. Absolutely beautiful.
So true
This is most beautiful. Glory be to God.
And He most certainly deserves it!
I was not raised a Christian, but the sheer beauty of these Sacred Harp hymns in undeniable.
Are you a Christian now?
Don't let it die. Don't let it vanish with time as most culture does.It pulls the heart out of my body
It's probably more alive now than it ever was.
definitely agree with Ludvig there, it is nowhere near close to dying. If you search for sacred harp online, you'll find an almost worldwide community network of singers available for you. I highly suggest you find one and join, it's so enriching and familial, and absolutely no pressure to be in line with any religious doctrine, unless you so choose it.
Well, this isn't "Sacred Harp", _per se_ . It's not even the same style, but it's close enough that a person who's interested in one will likely appreciate the other. I agree however, that Sacred Harp is alive and well, thriving at teh moment. We'll see if that lasts, but I don't think it's going to "die out" anytime soon. Even if a lot of the newcomers prove fickle in the long run, the number of dedicated singers added over the last 10-20 years will leave it in a better place than it was 30-40 years ago.
What is the difference in style you're hearing?
From what I'm hearing compared to looking at the Walker's edition, the only difference is the soprano and tenor are switched. It seems to be the same otherwise.
This is the sweetest sound that ever I have come across.
Love is the Sun 😎
Love is the Harmony
I'm not even religious and I think I've listened to this over 100 times now
Of course you're religious. (Or spiritual, as some would put it)
The ability to recognize the beauty of different voices becoming one, or to be moved by the words, that's beyond intellect. The recognition that "Jesus has loved me, I cannot tell why" I, in his dear breast find pardon and red", the realization that there's love for you whether or not you deserve it, what else is that but religious?
Believers would say God made us and our ability to love, in his image. Non-believers would say we invented God from our image of our best selves. For practical purposes, what's the difference? Humanity striving to give and accept unconditional love, live truthfully, forgive self and others, that's religious.
Pardon and REST. Sorry for the typo
I'm in tears, so amazingly beautiful, God is good!
Brings me to tears every time.
We just visited this church a couple of weeks ago, and I thought of this type of singing as I looked around. Just think of the inhabitants of Cade’s Cove, the way they lived, coming together to share and cultivate their faith in this setting. Thank you for making this music.
Takes me back to my childhood and going to church with my grandma on Sunday mornings.
This singing makes me think of the kind of singing I did in my home state of Alabama.
What beauty. His grace and exclusive perfection was so strong with you all when you sang this- it was so tangible even through a screen and a speaker! You all served as his vessel today and helped me more than I could ever explain. Blessed is the name of the lord
This could be my Church or family as I was raised in a Primitive Baptist family, my grandfather was a PB preacher, I had 3 uncles that were PB preachers, 2 cousins and my brother. We were a large family as my dad was one of 8 and my mom was 1 of 5. Most of us living in a 50 mile radius. When growing up you didn’t need friends as you had so many cousins. We got together every Sunday for Church and ended upstate someone’s house. Our time was spend singing from Harp of Ages and the PB Hymnal. I have some great memories and recordings.
You were blessed brother. I am a son of a PB preacher myself out of san antonio. I desire to get back into the church but not many if all PB churches only in CO springs.
@@corbinrodgers3325. My precious Dad was a primitive Baptist minister too.
@@corbinrodgers3325 Hi, Corbin. May the Lord bless you to find your way. Always look to him.
I grew up on the Harp of Ages. There are still a couple of churches around still using it.
I am trying to find a PB church but can't find anything online - any help would be great...
This beautiful worship has touched a lot of hearts. It's lovely to have the opportunity to sing along with them too. God bless you.
This made me cry.
me too! i want to sing it next month.
I played it on the organ for a Catholic funeral today.
how sad... i will be thinking about this when we sing it next week.
Tried and tested over hundreds of years, modern worship music will not pass the test of time in importance as that of those people who brought with them the very light of Christianity and the reformation.
May God bless and help us.
Amazing as it was 22 yrs ago thanks needed this
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I'll never forget Reading the cades cove book while in RHP work program.its about patriotism and then..
This is so beautiful - I have learned this song singing it with you, and I wish all the blessings on all of you all your lives. Thank you for singing this.
Thank you, Cynthia! If you'd like to hear more songs, we made a record: memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/
I can't stop listening to this. I love it.
Ditto.
We were just there last week and heard the park guide's talk inside this church. What history! Thanks for sharing this!
Utilizing an earpiece, I'm able to separate each voice, singing his/her own melody. Beautiful, humbling work brings me to tears.
Bless you dear vocal artists for sharing your gifts and your faith.
I was just reminiscing about last March when I went to some Primitive Baptist Churches in Georgia as I was there for a Shape Note Gathering in Waycross. Such a wonderful, truly "spiritual" experience singing this style in old, tiny country churches with folks with Big Hearts and Souls for the Lord Jesus!
well the folks u were in the singing with probly werent primitive baptists, altho a few of them might have been. many PB's believe in predestination so strongly that they wouldnt walk across the street to tell their neighbor of about the savior. they will excommunicate a member for simply attending another church. they wont invite anyone to their church either, because it doesnt change the outcome or destiny of a persons soul anyways. 75% of their churches are empty, and most of the others only have 10 or 20 people. they worship their tradition more than God. most PB associations wont even take members from another PB association because of some obscure difference in tradition or theology. thank God theres a few who arent like this, such as the eastern district association of PB's or the original tenn. assoc.
I think ChristIN was probably referring to Mars Hill Church between Hoboken and Waycross, which is indeed PB. There is a Cooper Book Sacred Harp convention at the Hoboken elementary school every March, which is probably what ChristIN attended. That convention has largely been sustained by the Lee family, who are also (most of them) members of Mars Hill PB. They and the rest of the congregation welcome the visiting Sacred Harp singers to the church in the evening after the convention to sing from Lloyd's and the red Old Line hymnal. I'm happy to say that I've always found the Mars Hill folks perfectly hospitable and kind, despite me being of very different religious convictions. It's not the denomination I'd pick for myself, but there's good as well as bad in it.
I mention Mars Hill in particular because I'm pretty sure that's the congregation ChristIN was referring to, but I've got an equally warm welcome as an outsider at Grace Chapel (Memphis) and Crooked Creek (Iola, IL), among others. Decent apples amid the bushel both.
@@caman171 it seems like you had some negative experiences and I’m sorry for that. My life among Primitive Baptists has been joyful. I do wonder why you brought up numbers. God never did his work through the largest group or used a multitude to conquer. It was one person here or a small group there. I’m happy to worship with our church or 20 in Littlefield, TX, if we are worshiping in spirit and in truth. May I suggest not throwing rocks at others and charactering all PBs together based on your experience with one or two?
@@randall-king well thx for ur reply. I am not bitter. as for numbers, thats where the problem lies. yes God absolutely uses one person or a small group...but when he does the outcome brings harvest. to be "happy" in a church that has only 20 people is horrific to me, UNLESS they are reaching out to bring others to the saviour. If you are "happy" with 20 folks and not preaching to EVERY creature the message of salvation, then ur "happiness" will turn bitter at the judgement. if u arent reaching the lost, u most def are NOT worshipping in "truth"...and if u read my whole comment, i gladly stated not all PB's are like this, and even named one group who was not. another group who isnt like this is the Original Tennessee Association of PB's..it was this assoc that Cades Cove Church belonged (the church in this video) before it was part of the national park. one very dear friend was saved in one of their churches and i praise God for them. Thank God the apostle Paul and Peter didnt stay with their "little flock" and went around the world telling the Good News. If God is not adding to your church, then maybe ur church is not His church. i sincerely hope u have made ur calling and election sure my friend. If u dont have a burden for souls and wish to "gather them as a hen gathers her chicks" as Jesus taught, i must wonder, not for me to decide tho.
Pretty nice acoustics in that little old church ! Bravo ! 👏
O tell me no more of this worlds vain store- so true, I have lived in the world, it has nothing but half fulfillment offering full gratitude, misery, depression and false hopes
Praise the Lord for your testimony!
Beautifully sung. Glory be to God.
I can't get enough of this. Well done.
Keep a faith to match the music.
Thanks, Kyle! Here's a new record!
memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/
There is something magic in it. I feel lifted up.
Not magic, but supernatural. It's the Spirit of God moving among them..
Never get tired of this music.
Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow!!!!
Wow. Just great. God smiled down from heaven on that one!
This still means so much to me, thank you and blessings. 💛🙏
I still love it, love it, love it!!!!!
I was raised primitive baptist, we did not sing sacred harp in church, but many of the members attended sacred harp singing conventions, wish i would have been able to go. many of the primitive baptist songs have this type of sound. we sang acapella as instruments not used in church. going to go to a singing tomorrow for the first time to see if i can learn this.
+Kathy Neidhardt I was raised primitive Baptist and we always sang the notes first. I'm in Alabama maybe its a regenall thing.
These young people, except for two, were all born and raised in Primitive Baptist churches. They grew up always singing the notes first, especially at sacred harp singings. This was spontaneous, unplanned. I think they were just after the words and music this time.
This is angelic.
Thanks for uploading this! It's a blessing to hear.
Love your music. Bless you.
Praise the Lord. They can really sing.
This is a new one to me. It's beautiful. You all are good singers.
For anyone wondering, this song is also in the Primitive Baptist Hymnal (2nd edition), no. 492.
Where can I find a copy of this hymnal?
edisonstalkingmachin
Thank you. Much appreciated.
It's also in the 2010 Christian Harmony, p336.
Is it he black book, blue book, or red book?
Nvm it's the blue book.
Pretty good, nice flow to it with a great harmony.
Thank you thank you thank you
Love this one best of all their recordings! We used to sing it quite often at our church from the Lloyd's Primitive Hymns book, but we used a different tune. I enjoyed this one much better! I wish it was on Amazon so I could buy it for my phone! :)
There are recordings?? And where could I find a copy of the Lloyd's Hymns?
gloria slater The Primitive Hymns Corporation
P.O. Box 92
Rocky Mount, NC 27802-0092
Thank you.
I converted it to MP3. I can get you a copy.
Beautiful!
Beautiful
They are the most humble people l know.
Adding this one to the top as well. Would love a cd or some type of recording.
Here's a new record from this group:
memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/
Great singers, and a great place to sing. Such great acoustics for this kind of harmony. There is an old meeting house from 1828 near here, all totally original inside. It's quite a big bigger than this, but I wonder if it would work for a sing?
L OV E this!
It's wonderful to hear Primitive Baptist hymns again. It's been too long. Wish I had a church close by.
Kasey K. Where abouts do you live?
Logan Green In Los Angeles. The nearest one is more than an hour away.
@@kannlowery The Pastor at Little Zion in Bellflower, CA is Elder Joe Holder. He is a wonderful man and a very learned and most able preacher. This is a sweet church with exceptional fellowship. I know folks who travel from San Diego to attend. They do so because it it is worth it. Their souls are fed. If you wish contact info you can message me.
@@michaelivey7445 Thank you for the information! I appreciate it!
Is this Sacred Harp singing? Beautiful!
It's from the book the Southern Harmony, a shape-note book, yes.
Thank you, Marie!
Check out memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/
I wish there is a Primitive Baptist church around here. I live in San Francisco, CA, and according to google, I would have to travel to Oakland, or Fremont.
My friends invited me to their churches, and after reading theIr website, I have concluded that one of them is a southern baptist (not this again) and the other is probably closer to a Calvinistic belief or I donno what is because the ‘what is the gospel’ page seems to mention what it means to be a Christian, and ‘true saving faith always responds in obedience,’ which makes me question... are they telling me that King Solomon is not a child of God?
You sound a lot like a Primitive Baptist already! :D
I've been to Golden Gate church in Fremont. I would say it would be worth the drive, but since I'm familiar with Bay Area driving, I'll say you could probably get someone to pick you up from the Union City or Fremont BART station. :)
I haven't been to the Oakland churches, but I would expect them to be very welcoming and have a little different flavor of worship as African-American PB's. All the California churches have great fellowship with one another and would say you can't go wrong in finding the one you feel led to. It's definitely worth a trip across the bay to see for yourself.
Hey!
Just saw your response to this message. Yes! I have been in contact with the Primitive Baptist. An elder has approached me with the scenario of Joshua’s time, when the 2 1/2 tribes lives far from away the tabernacle. Are they children of God? Yes! Are they seeking to serve God? They build an alter as a reminder for all of the Israelites (whether they are part of the 2 1/2 tribes, or 9 1/2 tribes) not for sacrifice and make that alter like another statue, but as a reminder to serve God.
He said that there will be children of God who are seeking for the truth, but for whatever reasons they couldn’t attend church on Sundays (could be sickness, far distance, caregivers, etc), but told me not to be discouraged because when we talk about Christ together, that is the treasure in heaven here on earth.
i knew the green family. i'm from arkansas too
Love
if anyone's interested I boosted the audio quality so it sounds like you're in the middle of the choir. All credit to the original singers and poster of course! www.dropbox.com/s/uj75o20241sremh/O%20Tell%20Me%20No%20More.mp3?dl=0
I never heard Primitive Baptists sing or pronounce their words like this.
This is exactly how my grandmother, raised a Primitive Baptist from her birth in 1900, pronounced her words when she sang these Sacred Harp hymns. She grew up in West Virginia and later moved to Virginia. Perhaps you have heard Sacred Harp singers from another region of the US?
These are actually local university students using the church building
Jack, none of these kids are local to that area. They have attended universities, but all except 3 of them grew up in Primitive Baptist churches and most of them grew up singing Sacred Harp. They came together for a weekend in the Smokies and decided to sing at the old Cades Cove church building.
Sounds normal to me. I’m from small town west Texas and grew up a Primitive Baptist.
This, by the sound, is a performance group.
We're just Primitive Baptist friends.
@@mattbell1381 Bless you. I stand by my comment at least that you have the polish to be one. See you at the National?
Does anyone know when people meet at this church to do shape note singing? I would absolutely love to come and join singing
Logan how can I find out when singing is going to take place at churches in cades cove? I would love to see and hear it
Thanks Teresa
Me too!
The videos that Logan posted were from impromptu singings. We have a group of friends from various parts of the country that came together several years in a row for a trip to the Smoky Mountains and at some point during each trip we went to Cades Cove to sing.
+Daniel Gooch You guys should record an album. I'd buy a copy for everyone I know.
Here's a new record from this group:
memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/
Here you go!
memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/
Also in the Christian Harmony on p. 336 or 337 (dep. on which edition you are using)
Which book is this song from? It's not in the Sacred Harp book...
why is the best render of this song is record with low quality :(
One of us just spontaneously set up a phone to record. We also recorded this song for our album which you can listen to here:
MemphisHarmony.bandcamp.com
@@monologtube my apology, I would never mean to say you should do better, but emphasized that this is the best song I have heard in a while. God bless you all :)
@@dragonlordofgreaterempire3327 Oh I didn't take it that way. Thanks for the compliment!
Does anybody know what hymnal they are singing out of? I’ve consulted my Southern Harmony hymnal but I’m pretty sure the harmony lines are different from what they are singing.
The Primitive Baptist Hymnal 2nd ed.
This song is included in the sheet music PDF available from Memphis Harmony:
memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/merch/boundless-realms-of-joy-sheet-music
Does anyone know what number this is in Sacred Harp book?
it's not in the Sacred Harp, but it is in The Southern Harmony
rats. i would love for our group to sing this. i wonder if i can get single copies of this for our group.
It's in the Christian Harmony as well
I'm a catholic, but I don't believe in the Catholic church too much these days, I don't believe the pope talks to god on our behalf
The good news is that you don't need the pope or a priest to talk to God on your behalf. You can talk to Him directly. Ask Him to reveal Himself to you. Then get your bible and start reading; the book of John is a good place to start. He wants a personal relationship with YOU.
I'll pray for you, friend. The Catholic Church has the fullness of the truth
Beautiful
Beautiful!!!
Beautiful!