Ranking the Elden Ring Bosses from Easiest to Hardest - Part 2 [#1-15]
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OH ELDEN RING! It's finally here. I'm 70 hours deep and completely obssessed. The Elden Ring bosses are phenomenal and as tough as the series has ever had. Today I'll be ranking the easiest Elden Ring bosses and the some of the hardest Elden Ring bosses in part 1 of 2. Last time we ranked Elden Ring bosses including Godrick the Grafted, Rennala Queen of the Full Moon, Regal Ancestor Spirit, Sir Gideon Offnir the All Knowing, Fire Giant, Red Wolf of Radagon, Magma Wyrm Makar, Leonine Misbegotten, Tree Sentinel (Loretta, Knight of the Haligtree), Flying Dragon Agheel, Dragonkin Solider, Commander Niall, and a whole lot more!
Today we get to rank some wild battles like Malenia, Goddess of Rot, Maliketh the Black Blade, Dragonlord Placidusax, Mogh Lord of Blood, Margit the Fell, Morgott the Fell Omen, Starscourge Radahn, Godskin Duo, and plenty more. Mini-boss ranking soon to follow later this week!
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I fought malenia for 3 days. It took me almost 20 hours, and I died 496 times. She was not ready for attempt #497
LMFAO i dread fighting her
thats commitment 💀i respect it
Damn😹 it only took me two trys during my first playthrough
@@acey8274 well in my defense I decided to do her no summons shield or magic and my damage was bloody slash, so I couldn’t use bloodhound step or parry and I was constantly losing health even when I was just attacking her
@@lman5833 yeah i was using a int/dex moonveil build Lmao
I swear to god the night I beat her, I literally heard “I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella” in my dreams on repeat. That was a few days ago and I still have ptsd from that fight
I beat it in like 15 minutes, 3 tries with rivers of blood and a mimic
@@palmersmith8557 yeah I used the same thing. +10 rivers of blood with Lord of Blood’s exultation / Rotted winged sword insignia talismans and a +10 mimic tear is so broken. I wanted to try to beat her without resorting to that but I just couldn’t. Beat her on my first try with that
@Nook Small Bruh.. gave me worse ptsd than a vietnam vet
lol i beat her first try :)
@@palmersmith8557 well that’s how to beat it easy for sure
Here’s some perspective:
I died to the Godskin Duo twice. I died to Malenia 119 times.
Godskin Duo got nerfed a bit since this video was posted. Malenia however... did not.
i died to godskin duo 3 times but to malenia 57 times, no summons ofc because it takes the fun from the game for me
Me too my brother … me too
I’m already in the low 30s on attempts and have yet to see phase 2.
@@gamefreakin wait what? How were they nerfed since i was disappointed because of the hype around their difficulty and then first tried them
Godfrey and Horah Loux is such an epic fight. The man literally created us and is the leader of the tarnished. When you die to him he compliments you on your strength and when you defeat him, he’s like good job bro here’s your crown. 10/10 boss imo.
Virgin “Put these foolish ambitions to rest” VS Chad “Tarnished, Thy strength befits a crown”
The phase transition cutscene was mad corny though
I beat him first try he was so easy for me
@@ballsbababababang8913 Let me guess. You were using mimic or some busted weapon/weapon art, am I right?
@@MouseR985 rob and mimic tear
"Heed my words... I am Malenia, blade of Miquella. I have never known defeat."
"Heed *my* words. My sword shoots lasers and now there's two of me."
ive never seen a truer statement
Mimic tear made her a cakewalk and I regret using it so much
@@lilfacade I’m not sure what build you were using cause mimic made her beatable but nowhere near a cake walk, at least for me.
@@Glzglxhl moonveil +10 with 60 INT is really all you need to know tbh, and 45 VIG.
@@lilfacade Try it on a different build maybe. Moonveil Katana is almost the game's official easy mode. It owns everything.
Little fun thing: In the godskin duo battle, i've managed to get both of them dead at once, and no, it doesn't end the battle, one of them just ressurects to keep the thing going.
Same thing happened to me when I fought them, honestly at first I was like "did I break the boss? What's going on?" Than saw one resurrect and said "oh shit!"
Same happened to me. The skinny one was resummoned then the fat one then he just died randomly it was weird.
That happened to me twice. I was really happy at first and thought I'd beaten the boss without depleting it's health bar fully, then apostle resurrected and killed me a few seconds later.
You can put them to sleep. They stay down for a long time too so you can deal with one at a time
This, in my opinion, would make the fight actually bearable, I thought this would be how it worked, so I took my sweet time trying to kill them both in the same window, when I finally did it imagine my elation when no "Enemy Felled" appeared and the skinny fuck just materialized alone out of thin air and then summoned his fat friend. Getting them both to die in the same window takes enough determination, I feel like it would be appropriate if the fight could end like that.
So interesting how your build can influence the difficulty so drastically. Morgott I beat on my second try, while Rennala violated me with her staff for hours.
yeah, some bosses with heavy colossal swords builds are ez and others specially the ones that barely stager are hell
This. Hugely impacts the game and how certain bosses fair. Dragons were easy but Godfrey tormented me
It’s funny you say that cause it took me till I had over 300 hours in the game to realize that. I used mostly a mix of faith based or arcane / bleed weapons for the first 300 hours. Moonveil, Rivers of Blood, Mohgs Spear, Godslayer Greatsword, Ancient Relic Sword, Nagakiba, Antspur Rapier. I could clear out the large majority of the game with ease before you reach Malikeith but once I got to him I always ran into trouble. Malikeith, Godfrey (both versions), and Elden Beast are of the few that I’ve never solo’ed so I’d just summon the mimic just to get it over with.
After the last patch I started experimenting with every strength weapon I knew of and my lord do those weapons make those fights so much easier, Falling Star Beast Jaw is probably my favorite just cause I love the stagger potential and the lighting animation but Malikeith’s Black Blade and Envoys Longhorn are also fun to use. Long story short there’s not a one size fits all weapon or build in the game
I’m sorry Rennala did what
@@CatchTheseMechanicalHands she freaky with that staff 💀
For me it's insane to rate the golden spirit of Godfrey and his real form so close together. The golden spirit was two tries for me, Hoarah Loux tossed me around for at least an hour
Absolutely agree, golden shade was difficult but never too terrible and on my first run Godfrey took two hours
Golden shade took me 50 tries 😂 actual Horah took me 5 tries
@@stratossarikoudis7239 simply built different
Weirdly beat horah loux first try
I one shot golden, it was much easier.
"I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella"
"Hesitation is defeat"
"Good riddance, starving wolf"
Oh, how the words burn into the inside of your skull
Malenia was if you stuck 3rd phase Isshin and Young Owl in the same arena. I thought I had seen and done it all when I killed isshin ng+7 charmless and demon bell on. Malenia took me to school
@@ready2die723 to be fair once you've beat ishiin once it's not hard to do it again because you can counter all of his attacks. But in this game beating bosses is almost more luck than slill
Fuck no I beat Isshin 4th try I had to cheese Malenia to win.
@@KingOfMalevolence you didn't read the comment
@@itzhyr0934 I didn't tag you
I heard "I am Malenia blade of Miquella" so many times from her . that when I finally got her I my self became malenia at the end .
and my god her weapon is op .
On my second playthrough I was using her weapon when I got to the mimic tear fight, still dumb easy but he spammed the ashe of war which triggered my trauma from fighting her😳
Her weapon is really sick. I've lost count though, how many times I died in NG+ because I wanted to use her weapon art instead of fast attacks or dodging :D
sadly her armor is incredibly dogshit, I hope they buff it to have more resistances or at least more balance so you cant get fucked out of the air so easily
@@silosh3460 Her armor is ok. The reason it's bad is because it's a medium armor with lower weight. So if you have the Endurence for the heavy stuff then obviously the heavier armor sets are going to outperform it.
@@MeldinX2 I have armors that weigh almost exact the same but are better in every single stat except immunity.
Malenia killed me sooo many times that finally made me swallow my pride and start using summons.
With mimic bro i could finally down her in an unending four-katana barrage of slashes
i feel you bro but my pride didnt let me use a summon i sad there suffering til i beat her 1v1 with a guts build
Beta mentality
I put on training wheels and now I'm a biking expert.
Don’t feel bad bro, malenia is an objectively unfair boss since she is the one and only enemy in the entire game who can ignore the mechanics of combat, she can alter animation in the middle of an attack and can ignore poise damage in most of her attacks without a window of opportunity, she’s not hard because she’s fast, because she deals a lot of damage or because she can heal mid battle, she’s hard because she’s effectively cheating
@@b3ygghsas lmao cry more 🤣
There’s a tear you can get from an invader that is in a church on the Altus plateau that completely nullifies Mohg’s blood ritual, allowing you to get quite a few hits in while denying his damage and healing. Makes the physik basically nessarcary if you’re going for a no damage run of his fight
What church
He’ll still do small amounts of damage to you even with the tear. Most people trying to no hit Mogh have to out-dps his phase transition and kill him before nihil.
It doesn’t completely mitigate the curse but it takes about 95% of the damage away from it. No damage run is impossible for Mohg I’m pretty sure
I wear my Malenia armor set with pride. The fact that she's 100% completely optional adds to the sense of victory that I got when I finally bested her after about 4 hours worth of attempts.
Took over 6 hours for me but it is without a doubt the best fight and best experience I’ve had in any game over those 6 hours of getting shit on
I personally use the assassins set (the one that makes you move without emitting sounds) and when I finally beat Malenia, I got her arm and sword and it looks really good 🤩
dude i wear her set and have her sword 2x in left and right hand and i use her spell aswell all with pride
I think you'd wear that armor with less ego if you realize how easy she is to cheese. Just give the game awhile, especially after some full walkthroughs are made. Everyone's gonna have beaten her
@@andrewgodly5739 considering a lot of people still haven’t beat margit… I don’t think a lot of people will beat her
Took me about 3 Hours to finally beat her
and then i realised she had a phase 2, and struggled for another 10
I realized it when I got her to half health and she didn't use scarlet rot and I was like shiiiiiiiit
@@jmm394 oh I feel that, I actually died to the rot on the last hit I've never screamed so hard in my life in actual terror
@@PapaLuge me and another guy had her so close one time I ran into the flower a second too soon and got rot then she murdered me with shura ending isshin's dance move from sekiro because I was out of fp. I only beat her when I realized I just couldn't let her hit me and needed to carry a ton of magic flasks spamming flies and bloodhound step. Worked great but co-op partners kept dying so I used the mimic
3 days, without summons
@@carlosg2581 i feel that man
Not sure if you've already learned this since uploading this video, but you can completely cancel Malenia's super attack if you hit her with a frost pot during her wind-up
Really?...huh...the things you learn!
You gotta be far away from her though
I fought Malenia and struggled with her for roughly 1 week. She is by far the most difficult video game boss I have gone against across every genre of game i have ever played.
Malenia was the hardest boss I’ve ever faced in a soulsborne title, she nearly broke me and absolutely deserves that #1 spot. Still a phenomenal fight, though.
Worse than orphan of kos though?
@@johnsanborn4658 harder? not for me but maybe. Worse? fuck no.
@@johnsanborn4658 I'll have to face her more and see if my experience makes her manageable. I still go 50/50 on kos despite 20+ playthroughs
@@ivanchaki372 She's definitely a worse boss quality wise compared to Orphan. Orphan was at least fair.
I didn't struggle much at all with Orphan on my first playtrough and got him down in around 5 or so attempts but oh boy Malenia was a brutal fight with no summons and ranged attacks. Definitely the hardest one for me personally
Maliketh is one of those fights that I don’t know how I won. I spent the entire encounter getting knocked down constantly but I somehow did enough damage to kill him.
He has pretty low HP to balance out
You can use Blasphemous Claw to parry him, actually makes the fight a lot easier (if you're good at parrying)
Moonblade and shield
Same. I beated him 4 days ago
Maliketh has a very low health bar. If he had any more HP, especially in second phase, he would be much higher on everyone's hardest boss list.
On my third journey, I vowed to solo all the main bosses, so no mimic tears or summons. Bosses I found easier before were suddenly a lot harder, such as Mohg and Godfrey. However the hardest for me by far was Radagon and the Elden Beast, if you take both together as one fight. - even harder than Malenia. I let out the biggest sigh of relief when I finally bested it. Never want to experience that again.
Third playthrough? So far I've gotten to Radagon and Malenia without any summons, trying to see if I can do the whole game, prob not Malenia tho.
@@benkulick2802 Malenia is not hard, especially with BHS. I mean she's like difficult but if you can dodge waterfowl with the sprint away and double roll then she is pretty easy
This is my first Soulsborne game, doing a Strength melee "Guts" build with the colossal Great sword, which has been called the games unofficial hard mode. No summons/tears. pure grit and willpower as a solo. Didnt realise i was downright masochistic going in this way for my first time.
Finally beat the game and only have Malenia left and im finding her much MUCH harder than Radagon/Elden Beast.
I love the vast differences in experience that people have in this game.
I'm doing 10 vigor run as my first playthrough and Malenia fight was fun compared to Radagon. Sure, I died to her about 100 times, but everytime I died it felt fair. I have no idea how to beat the last boss and I can't even push him/her to the second phase
Elden ring felt like the first game where some bosses couldn’t be no hit. But then I see no hit runs on those bosses. It’s incredible…
It’s crazy how different runs are for everyone , Godskin duo was a one run for me, but near the beginning of your list is commander N with the lightning peg foot and him and his ghost buddies did unspeakable things to me for hours .
With mimic every boss easy
There is an item you can buy from a merchant that turns his buddies to yours and attack him
@@shadrodriguez5000 wish I knew this earlier
I got commander Niall on the first try, but Mogh mopped the floor up with me for ages even with proper items and physicsk
Yeah, same here, Malenia and Godskin duo werent the problem, Ordovis duo however.. I lost count eventually, I hated every bit of that fight, at the end decided to cheese it with rot and I am not even sorry. That commander funnily wasnt that much problem for me, however his scarlet version costed quite a few attempts.
Malenia broke me, respeccing into Rivers of blood did not feel like a win.
We both died in that arena.
Lmao perfectly put. I too went the way of the bleed build.
She made my sorcery build finally take up a sword, Moonveil and the carian piercer are the only things that will consistently hit her
She easily dodges every other spell
Even with river of blood she was still incredibly hard for me I’m probably just shit though
clearly u never played bloodborne NG+10
Fun fact about the Godskin Noble, it can be quite easy to avoid the roll attack after the initial dodge if you just run behind them and follow them. They can’t turn fast enough to actually get you and you’ll be in a advantageous position to hit them when they come out of the roll.
I fought Mogh, Lord of Blood at his palace WAAAAY before fighting Morgott. Didn't even encounter his other version in the sewers till endgame.
Unbelievable fight that tested my limits. Only boss that I'd put on the same level is Malenia - though, she took twice as long.
Loved them both
Same! Got to mohg at level 60. It was a fantastic experience to come back every now and then, trying new gear and strategies, and slowly and steadely getting further and further. Ended up beating him at level 78. Undoubtebly the best boss in the game imo
I agree, Mohg is a pain in the ass. I think I died just as many times facing him as Malenia.
He was balls hard! I'd say he was the second hardest in the game for me. The number one being obvious...
Not even gonna lie, Malenia was the most abuse I ever took in a fight, period. I already had Black Knife Tiche at +10 and was level 160 and still took a solid 8 hours to beat her. That being said, it was the most glorious victory I've ever had in a long time.
did u use a summon, if not, why
@@cheezy4450 yes he/she used Tiche
@@dedexter88 i just feel like this boss was a let down to me, i went in level 120 with a +10 moonveil and a +10 mimic, needless to say it was a breeze, she offered some difficulty but nowhere close to where people were describing her, she has low health, here moves are predictable and shes not hard to stagger, i won in less than 5 to ten tries
Tip: bleed weapons are very good against her (unless you did use bleed)
@@andreicampean1774 ended up using frostbite against her since I was spec'd into intelligence at the time and really did not want to go and respec purely for the fight. Ended up working out, luckily.
I was literally rewatching Part 1 thinking to myself "Damn, when is he gonna drop the next video"
So strange when I hear people struggled with Morgott-- beat him on my first try in a strength build and assumed he was some sort of mini-boss reskin of Margit because he died so easily. Took me a while to realize he was a very significant character in the lore of the game.
Don't forget that Mohg gets a strenght buff everytime a blood loss occurs in the area basically one shoting you with his downward slam if he bleeds you before once
Placidusax is one of my favorite bosses. His name is derived from the Latin Placidus, meaning peaceful/gentle/calm; we basically walked in while a dragon was sleeping/regenerating and killed him. If you inspect him closely the wings look ragged and there are scars everywhere. at 13:45 you can see a stump where a neck and head should be, then just after that around 13:50 when he rears up you can see 2 limp necks with missing heads(one is hanging down on our right, and one is wrapped under the arm on our left, pointing up). We fought him like 40% power if we're just talking head count, and that makes this fight all the more incredible to me. This Dragonlord was nowhere near full strength and still pulled out enough lightning to make Gwyn shiver; just imagine him at full strength.
I have a sneaking suspicion if we get a DLC for this game that involves time travel we might get this guy at full strength and that makes me so excited. We finally have a dragon that stands tall next to Midir that makes me feel like I am fighting an ancient all powerful dragon and I love it
Imagine if it was indeed Gwyn who blasted two of his heads off with lightning.
to make it even more insane, he's a former Elden Lord on top of that. If he's this strong so weakened, imagine how powerful his god is.
Just started a new game because I completely missed Placidusax.
Am I only one thinking that dragon battles Without torrent are complete bullshit for melee?
Hourah loux has to be my favorite fromsoft fight ever. He’s not the hardest but I was not ready for that phase 2 I saw him run at me and mistimed the dodge early and my god getting thrown 30+ feet in the air then primary lotused was the most insane and hilarious things I’ve ever seen. Needless to say I also died instantly lol
Dat animation where he rips you in half if he killed you with the body slam 🔥🔥🔥
He was top 3 hardest for me way harder than elden beast somehow
I adore both throne room fights the most out of everything in Elden Ring, and spending an hour on Morgott and 6 hours on Godfrey was well worth it.
nah u a gay
Same thing happened to me, and even though that massive throw one-shotted me, I couldn't help but just laugh at how goddamn epic it was.
The night I beat Malenia after 6 days of attempts and hundreds of deaths, I screamed so loudly that my roommate thought my mom just died or something. Probably the first time a game physically exhausted me to the point where I felt lightheaded when going out to dinner with my girlfriend after. Easily the most memorable boss I have ever fought, with the sole exception being Zant from Twilight Princess for extremely personal and sentimental reasons
While Malenia is without question the hardest, I still wonder what Radahn would have been like if he hadnt lost his mind by taking her bio-bomb to the face. From what I understand, all we ever saw was a fraction of Radahn's power.
And Radahn was holding back the stars as well.
@@lexflynn1994 He doesn't literally control them. This is a frequently misunderstood Radahn power fantasy headcannon.
@@jordan.d1475 no he was using gravity magic to hold the stars at bay thats not a power fantasy headcannon all the characters even state it. He holds the stars and a meteor at bay while rotted... He is a beast and has never lost except to malenia technically even though it was a tie.
One of the cut scenes looks like he takes a stab in his younger self from probably morgott. But we don't know for certain it's just likley.
He was the strongest demigod outside of melania and honestly if he was not holding back the stars nor rotted...he'd be as bad or most likley worse than malenia.
@@jordan.d1475 that is not what he said. The game literally confirms radahn held back the stars, probably including aliens like astel
Alright! We dont have to go that far.... we have more than enough Melania to deal with.....not the radahn too
I don't like the massive amount of Duo bosses, but I think it's relevant to consider that spirit ashes are a core mechanic that fights were balanced around.
yeah ashes make duo fights enjoyable and stuff like melenia laughable i 2nd tried her with rykards sword just spamming the weapon art while she focused the mimic its stupid at times
@@maltep9659 sword of night and flame blasting her with Kamehameha waves from two sources was fun. That weapon definitely puts the game on easy mode.
My issue is that ashes make the fights too easy. Balancing around that many summons many of which are extremely strong is impossible so when I used them I first tried pretty much every boss without learning literally anything about them. The mimic tear specifically should probably just be removed from the game completely, or get 3/4 of its health removed along with the ability to use hotbar items and flasks. Not using them means dealing with some of the most bullshit fights from has ever made though, and I will NEVER do a no summon run again.
Hard agree. Mimic tear is TOO strong, fully upgraded mimic tear gets boss levels of health. On top of that the mimic can heal, dodge attacks, and spam weapon arts. The summon also costs no FP which was one of the requirements to use the stronger summons in the game. Truly way too strong and trivializes the game.
@@thegamingbros8031 mimic tear with melanias weapon art + bleed obliterates everything
Radagon was such an incredible fight
I loved fighting radagon but hated elden beast
@@glitchesarebitches1785 ding dong your opinion is wrong. All jokes aside though Elden beast could’ve been better
@@glitchesarebitches1785 i disliked both but at least radagon had cool elements
ayy lmao my opinion is make radiation abit faster and give him a second phase at full strength instead of being all broken and it would be an amazing final boss
@@kiriyin5891 well he's two people so you can't really make him whole the other half of him is Marika.
I appreciate how you actually acknowledge that you were a bit overpowered for some fights or got lucky, and actually see a battle's nightmarish potential even if you don't fully live through it yourself. Good video.
I’m glad that Margit is considered one of the hardest bosses, because I always struggle with him
Yes, in fact. I was able to beat him but only with the help of the NPC and my spirit ashes and with a mighty spell. :D He is pretty tough.
Putting margit as the first major/great enemy is brutal. Although his damage and health is scaled for the area, his moveset absoultely is not.
"Difficulty shoots up for the final six, as I have died AT LEAST 15 TIMES to each of these bosses."
*Me, who spent 3 hours killing Tree Sentinel and needed 27 tried to kill Margit* - 😅
And then theirs me who finished off mogh in my 2nd attempt ahaha, mimic tear really is a game changer
@@ThatGuyNamedFlash I refuse to use summons and stuff like that. Kinda feels like it's not the true game to me
@@TGMS77 eh to each their own, I feel they put summons in the game for a reason and it would be silly and rude to the Devs if I didn't use it, I imagine the Dev who had to code in the ashes would be upset if people specifically chose not to use them. I get where you're coming from tho, I feel the majority of one shot magic builds are lacking the depth and adrenaline that makes a boss right truly fun and unique hence why I'm not gonna use a build like that until a seperate playthrough. Im still able to experience the fight if I have a summon helping me out so I feel it's a fair advantage over an unfair one
@@ThatGuyNamedFlash the thing is: a dev who implements an easy mode wouldn't be mad if I didn't play it. That's how I see it
@@TGMS77 i wouldnt call it "easy mode" more like evening the battlefield, considering the bosses in this game literally have 8 string attack combos with lightning fast to delayed timings and make it neigh impossible to get out alive sometimes, having a reprive in the form of a distraction is less of an "easy mode" and more of a viable strategy of circumventing damage. i only was able to beat mogh in 2 tries because i was severely overlevelled after getting stuck on commander niall and overlevelling for him, the mimic only really helped in allowing me to live longer and deal more damage.
the true easy mode of this game is level 65 int comet azure. that shit just rips through healthbars
FYI: Each of the Godskin Duo is susceptible to sleep. The final fight against both of them is made much, much easier if you can sleep one and focus on the other. The one that is asleep will stay asleep for a tremendously long time unless you hit him.
Yeah it's incredibly easy if you just equip Sword of St. Trina. Each only has a small health bar before they die and resurrect, so from then on it's just a matter of killing one before the other comes back.
That's how I did it also. Sleep pots on Noble first, then keep cycling. Made it a breeze.
Equipping Mimic Tear with Sleep pots did it for me.
I never actually used sleep on the duo. I got really good at dodging the fattys roll so i just kept the apostle around the pillars and focused on killing the noble when he spawned
Only gays use sleep. Fight like a man
It amazes me how these bosses' difficulty seems to depend on the build. For the first 30 or so hours, I used a sorcerer/spellblade build and I didn't really run into many issues until I ran into Mogh. Mogh easily killed me 40 or so times before I called it quits and respec'd into a bleed build. I still then only just managed to beat him because I got the purifying tear. The only other boss that gave me issues aside from Mogh was Malenia. I first tried my Int build and she killed me 7 or so times before I had enough and I came back respec'd in a Bleed build with a fully upgraded Rivers of Blood. The weapon art on it absolutely punishes her when she leaves you openings and her phase 1 was pretty much a joke for it. Phase 2, on the other hand, yeah it took me a few more tries to beat her phase 2. I really did enjoy fighting Melania because it felt like a dance between two blade masters.
Yes, that range on corpse pileris what wrecked her for me. Start it early enough and let her walk into it. And yes phase 2 took a little more finesse but it also works there too
The interesting thing about Godskin Duo is that although killing one doesn't "do anything" because he respawns after a while, the respawn timer is long enough to allow you to kill or mostly kill the other one, as long as you play somewhat aggressive. So even though it's not my favorite fight mechanically, I admit that I like the concept a lot of rewarding aggression. Aside from the beginning which was tough, I seldom had to fight two of them at once after the first kill.
I fought malenia for 3 hours
My winning run was literally me with cold nagakiba on my left hand and a dagger with Bloodhound step on my right hand
Only doing 1 or 2 hits per opening
The fight was so slow and excruciating.
After I beat her I had lost al my sanity.
I respecced my character into full dex build
Changed my character from male to female
Copied malenia appearance
Wore her armor and weapon
And now.....
I am malenia
Blade of miquella
Lol you've been assimilated
But you have known defeat... And that`s even more terrifying than she ever was.
Cringe
That's literally what I did to I just beat her a couple hours ago
@Fulak dedicated man I would have left and come back stronger
A tip with Mohg, you can find a crystal that you mix in your wonderous flask that stops him for taking your heath when he does the life steal move(he still gets health). You could also use the Mohg shackle item to lessen the health health he has left or even skip his second phase if you deal enough dmg, but this is not very reliable.
I believe an invader at the Second Church of Marika gives it to you. No joke that, the shackle. and the infinite fp Azur Comet won me that fight
2nd Church of Marika is where you can find it. You'll have to beat an NPC invader during Yuras questline
@@Dorian-ii8gl you don’t have to do his quest, they are there no matter what
@@ObiJohnKenobi22 Oh for real? That makes getting it a lot simpler
Oh weird, I misunderstood the shackles, I thought that they only worked during phase 1 like when I tested Margit's Shackle, but I guess they only work if the boss has enough health, so then it would make sense that you can use it on Mohg's phase 2 since he heals and has a more full health bar again.
I'm someone that tends to learn fast. Bosses don't take me that long since i can kinda memorize their moveset early on and then it's just having patience until a good opening appears... Until Malenia. Jesus, i have NEVER suffered as much as i did with that attack. I forgot to keep a tally, but i'd say 70 deaths is a good guess. It got to a point where i could do a perfect battle just to perish at the Waterfowl Dance move. It was infuriating yet, the rest of the fight is so good (Both in moveset and overall ambience as well as music) so i just kept going (Stubborn as a mule) decided to beat her. I learned how to dodge it. I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO DODGE THE WATERFOWL DANCE "Let me solo her" STYLE. And you know what? that felt both horrible for making me go above and beyond conventional means to defeat a boss, but really rewarding when i finally pulled it off. Hands down the hardest boss in the series just for the healing on impact and Waterfowl Dance alone. Literally screamed so hard when i beat her my neighbours called me to see if i was doing ok.
It's fun that some off Malenia's mechanics look like they would work wonders in Bloodborne. Fast paced hits, huge combos, healing by causing damage
In case anyone didn't know: you can use a mixed physick tear to negate almost all of mogh's damage when he does his phase 2 charge up siphon attack thingy. You get it from an npc invader in one of the churches on the altus plateau
The twinblade she drops is also badass
You can also deal with the Margot variants using the shackle :p
Also the lord of blood is weak to bleed, who would have thought.
@Dan Dan he gets a buff when he bleeds so it's 2 edged sword
@@gunbundos yeah i used them a lot since they looked cool. I called them the darth maul twinblades
Can we also appreciate how this man fought all these bosses with no summons or ashes so he can have accurate reviews on the bosses
I think it was partially a mistake. Most bosses are really aggressive and relentless, giving very small windows to heal or attack because the developers counted players using very powerful summons. Like Margit... If you summon the jellyfish, you can almost completely stunlock him with a decent weapon. (just spam charged heavy attack)
So playing with no summons is kind of already a challenge mode. This is especially true for duo bosses. I have nothing against people imposing extra challenges on themselves, but doing so then claiming the game is insanely hard is kind of misleading. (not saying he complains at all, I can feel the true passion for the game).
@@Debilinside yeah some fights feel like they expect it like most of the double bosses. I think that should be considered. I did everything solo like he did and while it was hard I didn't blame the bosses for my refusal to use the summon mechanic. It was a choice I made
@@HunterForHire422 I thing the bosses were designed on a way for you to use the summons, i mean most summons are not broken, is Mimic Tear the one that makes the bosses easy as fuck.
I'm probably 60% through the game and have not used summons yet as I'm a stubborn souls vet, that being said I'm not a highly skilled player and from what I've heard about some of the endgame bosses in ER like Melania, I may end up breaking that, I'll try though. If by ashes you mean the weapon arts I have been using those though.
@@Ms666slayer doing my 2nd character and I'm using summons this time. But I will not use that one cause I heard it's OP
its so cool how this ranking can shift from player to player, I ended up getting margit pretty early and morgott was pretty easy, but I really really struggled with godfrey/hoarah loux
As a sorcerer, the most difficult bosses are the aggressive ones. This made a fight like Godskin Duo actually kinda easy, but Leonine misbegotten was hard.
Mohg is hard, but he is a lot easier if you grab his two items. There is a crystal tear that blocks his triple ring blood loss attack and there’s another item that stuns him like his brother morgott
Edit: Purifying Crystal Tear and Mohg’s Shackle for anyone who cares
The crimson tear is so easy to miss, but yeah, the phase transition gets a lot harder without it. Rather than 3 estus, it takes at most 1, and is down time you can use to catch your breath
There is a chance that i cheesed the fight after trying a few times.
He’s a lot easier if you do the platform jump outside his door and drop into the arena then he just stands there while you kill him bahahhaah
i didnt know that crimson tear exist but i have defeated him, i just outhealed his vampire shit 3 times lol
@@kanpeki2485 I got him to 1 hit multiple times and I didn't know about the crimson tear. I finally got fed up and just did the cheese jump to break his AI lmao.
Malenia was the first souls game boss that broke me. I didn’t throw my controller in rage, I pressed it to my forehead in despair. I did finally beat her after going with a summon, but damn. I did my best on my own.
In my opinion, Malenia having healing on every hit, combined with her damage output, makes her an actually bulls*** boss. I don't care if the boss is really fast and hits like a truck, I'm used to that, both from Bloodborne and bosses like Friede in DS3. But that healing just makes it so goddamn annoying. I'm pretty sure she'd have been beaten by more people if she didn't heal back every time that she hit you.
Do it on your own in another run. You can do it! I was there!
I hope in a future game from take note and never BUT NEVER make a boss that heal everytime hits you and an undodgeabble attack that one shot FUCK MALENIA
@@3lote997 Nothing she does in undodgeable. Difficult to read for sure, but most certainly dodgeable. Also if you get one shot you probably need to get around 1800 hp and the greatshield talisman that you can find right before her grace site. Gives a lot more wiggle room.
@Conrad Werth Sadly she isn't the only boss that is hard because of bs mechanics. I feel the same way with maliketh. Incredibly agile boss with range and a sword? Let's give him a poison-esque damage and a temporary max health decrease! :)
I sadly have to say that there weren't too many bosses in this game who's difficulty I found enjoyable. There's always at least one aspect that turns the usually fun challenge into a storm of annoyance.
Malenia was deffo the hardest for me aswell. Out of all the move sets in the entire series, that leap into the air into the combos is the one attack i've never figured out how to actually handle. So my strat basically became to stunlock her with a gs + lions claw, throw everything to prevent her from even doing the attack, then second phase abuse takers flame while she is in the flower.
I finally got my hands on and finished Elden Ring! I know I'm late to the party, but now I am able to watch you and Sunburned Albino's boss ranking videos! It's always interesting to see which bosses in a Souls game are regarded as the biggest troublemakers. Maliketh, definitely deserves a spot. The Godskin Duo most certainly would have been, had I not been using the Dark Moon Greatsword, which I feel okay with using since I fought every single boss without ever using summons or spirit ashes! It was rough! Also, I did manage to end both of the Godskins at the same time, but it doesn't end the fight. They will still revive even if both are dead until that health meter is depleted. This is one of two boss fights in this game where I think Fromsoft has actually included genuine bullshit into the mix for the first time. Unless you count multiple health bars for multiple phases...that's something I haven't liked since Dark Souls 3! Malenia is by far the worst offender. She's got the scarlet rot status effect, has a damn near insta kill grab, can't be staggered during many of her combos, darts and weaves effortlessly around you're attacks since she apparently doesn't have stamina limitations and infinitely more speed than our character...on top of all of this, she has life steal and the satanic waterfowl attack! Seriously, that is THE most bs move in the entire series! It's almost impossible to avoid damage. On top of ALL that, she gets two full health bars. Like, why? Maliketh had two phases but only one health bar. So, why? It's Fromsoft creating artificial difficulty and I don't like it. I wish I could say she was fun to duel, since I really like her design and many of her moves look extremely cool, such as that one where she tosses you in the air and impales you! Unfortunately, I couldn't enjoy it because I was too busy just trying not to die. I think she could have been a great encounter with some tweaks, but as it stands, she is an unfortunate example of Fromsoft creating difficulty without being fair to the player. That being said, this game is rightly being lauded as a masterpiece!
fun fact: even if you kill both of the godskin duo at the same time, they still will respawn one at a time! figured this out in my new game+ run and was immensely disappointed.
I did that in my first playthrough. My first idea was to kill them both nearly simultaneously to prevent the ressurection. Seeing them both come back after thinking I had finally beaten them was quite demoralizing. Eventually went with the get both to 60%, kill one, kill the 2nd while the first is gone, and then blitz the first while the 2nd is gone.
Is Godskin duo optional?
@@luizphilipbohmgahrem3060 i wish..
I was disappointed that they put this relativly easy fight in such late game area :D
Didn't think that so much people have trouble with him.
@@DeadPixel___ Same, pretty much just cut them down without much thought. Out of all the bosses the ones I felt the hardest though were, Maliketh, Radagon/Elden Beast (these two weren't hard per say, but more of annoying), Malenia.
Fun fact, if you apply rot to Morgott in the first phase, you can skip his second phase entirely if you don't hit him again after the point in his HP bar where it would trigger.
no one asked
That can be good to know
That just seems harder, it takes quite a while for a whole boss health Bar to run dry from rot. I beat him first try powerstancing 2 uchigitanas and it really wasn't that bad
@@zach8107 powerstancing katanas wondering why it wasn't hard lmao
I used a blood build with dual katanas so I didn’t even see his 2nd phase before he was dead.
Dark Souls II looking at the gank montage in Elden Ring like "why don't he love me man :("
I definitely agree with what you said about maliketh. I used the rot dragon breath incantation while directly under him at the start of his second phase and then spent the rest of the fight focusing entirely on dodging which his health slowly faded away. Because of that I feel like on my second play though, due to not learning him as confidently as other bosses, he’ll wipe the floor with me more times than I’m prepared for
For how many gank bosses Elden Ring has, it's hilarious that none of them are deliberate duo designs. You don't have an Ornstein/Smough or a Friede/Ariandel situation in the game, it's ALWAYS two minibosses thrown together without thought put into it.
I beat the godskin duo last night and they were a nightmare I'm using dual katana build so I have to get up close and your right about those two groups they were designed to be half to a greater whole but most duo bosses from has made suck and godskin is the epitome of this
Fortunately most of them are completely optional with the exception of the Foreskin duo, it's honestly probably just a result of of having so many bosses to put in the game, it's bound to happen.
they somehow bring the best part of dark souls 3 and one of (if not) the worst part of dark souls 2 into this game. Idea for boss's diversity is running low, what to do, well, 2 of them in the same room. And wait, theres more, the same 2 guys in the room you fought last time but they heal each other. I mean, come on, it wasnt like they unbeatable but its not fun, it like something you want to get rid of cus well, you already bought the game so lets play it through.
The thing is, i feel like the gargoyles and foreskin duo are designed to be fought together and their miniboss appearances are just prep for the real fights.
i cheesed it with the blood slash through the pillars
The real hero against Malenia is a random summon with generic knight armor. They did so well and we did great as a team. Amazing what a pair of strangers can accomplish.
I think sharing that experience makes it almost better. I beat her with a guy who spammed the thing that talks and says "Lets get to it". I thought he was going to be absolutely OP and one shot her or something, but he was just another normal guy like me. I had a frost Greatsword, he had a bleed katana and a couple of spells, i has tanking hits, dodging the flurries with bloodhound step and breaking her stance with jump attacks while he triggered bleed and aggroed her while I ran away to heal. Great teamwork, awesome fight, amazing experience
Nah the real hero is a naked man with a pot on his head
True that. Even I defeated her with a random guy named sekiro. He had a great sword with bloodhound step and when he took the aggro I'd spam my spells and divert the aggro to me. And when she aggros me he comes in for the help. He does huge posture damage while I go for the riposte with my frost + bleed katana. Props to that guy!
More in-depth advice for Malenia since I know I wouldn’t have minded knowing these things when I fought her:
Malenia is weak to bleed and fire. As such, Rivers of Blood is an excellent weapon for Dex/Arcane builds like myself. Strength/Quality Build, just use Bloodflame Blade, I guess, because I’m not aware of a comparable weapon. Bleed/Bloodfire/Godskin incantations such as Swarm of Flies, Bloodboon, and Black Flame are also highly recommended. For non-magic builds, whatever arrows/bolts/throwing weapons you can find to accomplish the same effect are fine, just watch that stamina and be careful not to leave yourself open..
She’s also weak to Frostbite, so builds with the ability to use that effect will also have an easier time than those without.
Her semi-instakill Vergil copycat combo, while incredibly dangerous, can be mitigated if you book it to the furthest possible point from her as quickly as possible. She’ll likely still get at least one hit in, but most builds with an at least decent amount of HP (~1000) should be able to survive. You can also dodge it if your brain isn’t an under-inflated beachball, but godspeed you on getting that timing down.
Parrying her, while possible, isn’t really recommended since only every third parry is viable for a reposte. The other two will trigger a backstep instead.
The Scarlet Aeonia (scarlet rot flower) she uses at the start of her second health bar and several times thereafter is *very* exploitable for ranged attacks *cough* swarmofflies *cough* dragonice *cough* due to its stupidly long recovery, so just book it to the left and behind her, then let loose.
Her Scarlet Rot Shadow Clone Jutsu is extremely annoying and the clones probably last longer than you’re thinking they do, so just try not to have her use that attack. If she does, just do your best to dodge their swipes and thrusts while keeping an eye on Malenia for her dropdown attack.
Her False Yamato combo gains a Scarlet Rot effect, as if she used a Rotten Grease on her sword, but it’s largely the same attack as her first phase. Just make sure to watch that Scarlet Rot bar.
For Mixed Physick, I recommend Speckled Hardtear and Crimson Crystal Tear. Crimson Crystal Tear because no duh, Speckled Hardtear because Scarlet Rot isn’t fun and I don’t have the recipe for Preserving Boluses.
For Talismans, I recommend the Mottled Necklace, Immunizing Horn Charm (Both for staving off the Rot), Flock’s Canvas Talisman (if using incantations. If using sorcery, use the appropriate counterpart), Erdtree’s Favor (Because extra stamina and equip load), Viridian Amber Medallion/Arsenal Charm/Great Jar’s Arsenal (Replacement for Flock’s Canvas/Sorcery Counterpart, if your build isn’t a magic user).
Spirit Ash (specifically mimic tear) can be extremely helpful if you don’t mind the hit to your pride.
Finally, don’t get greedy but don’t be a coward, because Malenia exploits both.
Watching this and your "unbalanced difficulty" video really made me realize I had a lot more fun with the "easier" bosses. I felt accomplished when I beat them. Not because they were easy, but because they felt more fair. Bosses that instantly get out of an attack, leave no down time, and attack again are not fun. If some of the "easier" bosses had some more HP I think they would have been challenging but fair. The fact that most of these bosses almost require a summon if you want to beat them in less than 30 tries just feels wrong in a series that is about challenging, but fair, 1v1 fights. I died dozens of times to some of these "harder" bosses before summoning others. The result was usually that we would get much closer to a win due to the aggro being split. Winning after summoning 10 different people did not give me that sense of accomplishment, because it felt like I had to summon or waste an entire weekend on the boss. I never felt the need to summon in any other Souls game, rather summoning in those games felt like a way to just beat the boss faster if I wanted to get to a certain item/spell/whatever.
Also I personally dislike how many bosses are bigger than my screen. I died so many times because I could not see the boss attack because their arm was off my screen.
You can use sleep jars on the Godskin Duo boss. I did not know those items existed until I looked at the Duo's Wiki page. Personally I would not rank them that high if you use those items.
I feel the same way. Endless combos and no time to attack after those combos are over. Also your endurance meter is gone, and then you just get wrecked. Plus the bosses that can heal themselves. I felt like the developers put the mimic tear summon in there because they knew their bosses were a little unfair.
the game was mainly designed around spirit summons or npc summons and some coop which is why some bosses are super easy especially if you over level and gear early on or if you somehow hit well over lvl 200 by end game of your first playthrough not newgame.
The insane thing is it took me like 3/4 hours WITH the Mimic Tear to beat Malenia. It was a close thing too towards the end of those hours.
Then I remembered that you beat them all without summons. Respect man, I don't think I could do that.
Tiche is better than mimic. She and I ran a train on Melania. Beat her on my 7th try
@@charlesahweyevu I've heard about this but my build didn't allow for the FP cost. Gonna try it on NG+ though
@@BloopityBloop55 You can get the flask that lets you use infinite FP for 10 seconds. It allows you to use summon Tiche even if you don't have the FP for it normally.
It’s either I was overleveled or it was just my ROB but it took 3 tries for me with the mimic. You just gotta keep stacking the blood loss for the much needed staggers.
@@charlesahweyevuI recommend trying hear solo on a subsequent play-through. Actually a thrilling battle if you can learn her attacks.
I spent a week on the gargoyles because they did the exact opposite of what happened to you. whenever they both showed up the either comboed me into the ground at the same time or spammed so many layers of poison I died instantly to 4 or 5 layers of it. The fight was so much more obscenely difficult than any other fight in the entire game was for me.
Same here. First Time i fought as Mage-don't have to say more i guess. Second gargoyle went down in 5 Seconds. On my Paladin Build i still have to beat them, because they are constantly ganking up or killing me with poison..
That’s just insane man. It took me less than 10 times 💀
I had a lot of deaths to them both doing the poison and it just perma stunning me with the fact it staggers every tick, who ever thought a poison cloud should do poise damage is evil
I was dreading it as a melee build but did it second time, somehow. I never got poisoned either. Maybe it's RNG? I dunno.
I honestly tried the fight once, saw that it was not only a duo but a repeat; died, respawned, and did it with the Albinauric archer lady
I’ll face Malenia 1v1 before I face a gank by the fucking gargoyles
It’s times like this I’m glad I used mimic tear as a summon, the reverse of the “boss when you unlock them as a playable character”.
can’t wait to see where he puts the last boss of the dlc because that shit is insane
It’s so interesting how what level you are changes difficulty so much. Radahn was the hardest so far and I’ve just entered mountaintop. Meanwhile i dumpstered Morgott in two tries.
Morgot and Godfrey were first tries for me, easy as hell. But I got my ass whooped by the Draconic Tree Sentinel 15+ times. Lol
I think certain people process attack patterns differently.
@@TheInfii I think you're right about patterns because Godfrey took me forever an then Morgot i killed 3rd attempt. Do not know why but thats how it was.
I’m new to soulsborne games so I had my ass kicked multiple times, even if I was overlevelled, had an armor with good stats and 53 points into vigor, but for me personally my hardest boss was Maliketh (though I have yet to face Godfrey’s second boss fight and Radagon/Elden beast). It took me 7 hours to finally kill him, I had an impossible time to learn his attack timings and dodge them at the perfect frame so I got hit as little as possible. Still, I felt incredible when I did beat him.
Killed every hard boss but no one was as hard as radahn for me, took me 2 hours even with a cheese in the end
It's funny how ridiculously easy Morgott is when you use the game mechanics instead of doing no hit runs / no summon runs / any other challenges etc., I did him first try with that Melina summon on my first blind walkthrough because you face him so late in the game where you are, idealy, already level 100-120. At least I thought that the capital is the last thing I was supposed to do in the game
Same with Godfrey but for some reason I also had a lot of problems with Draconic Tree Sentinel and the Elden Beast at first
But I have no idea why one shouldn't use the summoning bell at unfair bosses like Godskin Duo. They aren't even designed to be a double fight, it's unfair and the game wants you to use glitchy cheesy tactics that way (like using the pillars in the arena). Therefore I just summon the mimic tear there, why even care about a fair fight when they don't do it themselves lmao
Malenia is without question the hardest boss I've ever fought across all of the Soulsborne games, beating out Ebrietas from Bloodborne who was the prior hardest for me. I didn't want to cheese her or use summons and I nearly went insane. Took me 86 tries over 2 days 7 hours (3 on day 1, 4 on day 2) to finally conquer her and nearly a third of those were just on phase 1. There were so many times where she would get me with her scarlet rot and then curbstomp me with her flurry attack. I was nearly crying from relief and joy at finally beating her and finishing my first playthrough.
This whole 'summons are cheese' meta that's going along cracks me up man, the bosses are literally tuned for summons, which is why these bosses are so difficult and have insane amounts of HP. If summons weren't intended they'd have scaled down the HP of most bosses so they don't drag on so long.
I've been playing these games for 13 years and find no shame in summoning. Same with people who think mage builds are 'easy mode', I always run dex personally but it's in the game for a reason, and From Soft have balanced everything around. Saying this, Mimic Tear could possibly use a HP nerf
@@rayvon7534 i kinda agree to it. altough i dont use mage builds, bosses are tuned to use different attacks depending on what range you are and if you are attacking or uisng an Item. that Mages have an easier time is the fault of the developers to not include sufficient challenge for range builds if anything
@@rayvon7534 I summon if I feel like having less trouble, there is no shame in summoning at least in my opinion
@@rayvon7534 I agree that summons were intended. But unfortunately while the game is probably too difficult without summons, atleast the required bosses anyways,, its also way too easy with them. its unfortunate. I beat melania my second try after giving in and using mimic tear
@@rayvon7534 there’s no shame in it. But the fact is it makes the game considerably easier and ruins the experience for a lot of veteran players. So imo I prefer to play the game with 2 handing a weapon and nothing more. No disrespect to anyone who doesn’t want to play the game like this
I always find these lists fascinating, because everyone's experience differs. Like for me, I went into Malenia expecting an insane grind, so I came in with a bleed build and +10 mimic and beat her in 12 tries. I beat Margott on literally the 1st try (after dying for hours to Margit). The Valiant Gargoyle duo on the other hand, I spent HOURS on and had to eventually quit, and had to come back at level 155ish to beat them. I actually felt guilty enough that I had kinda just blasted through the Malenia fight, that I've spent a couple weeks helping in co-op
I play the game with no armor so the gargoyles wrecked me time after time. The twin blade's poison attack is ridiculous. I'm surprised they don't come in higher on these lists.
As stated by more viewers here, the difficulty is heavily dependant on your build. I defeated Morgot last night, only dying once. I use a Sorcery build so I pretty much always have a window to attack him when he is still in animation, but I can imagine he is an absolute pain when full melee. He almost leaved no openings.
Same here. Rennala gives me a lot more pain 😡
I just beat him with melee last night, also second try. Having a spirit to distract him and using my shield heavily helped me win, though it took a lot of healing and was still a challenging fight nonetheless
he wasnt that hard with my strenght claymore melee build, beat him a few days ago. but I think thats partly a mindset thing bc I expected godfrey and seeing that its only morgott took away a lot of stress
You wanna know what my biggest issue with Hoarah Loux is? They had the perfect opportunity to give us an awesome fist weapon reward, they could have made you combo kicks and punches, with big attacks like roundhouse kicks or flying knees. Instead you get one of the lamest Axes ever or the most underwhelming Ash of War ever seen...
100% agree, like Bone Fist from DS2, turned you into a martial artist when power stanced, one of my favorite weapons form any souls game. Flying kicks, long ass punch combos, leg sweeps, and even a kamehameha type energy blast. Spent a lot of time in the 1v1 arena having a ton of fun with a build for it, really hoped it would make a return here.
THIS!
Imagine the possibilities, Give us a weapon that turns this game into a fist-version of Sekiro as well as a combo fighting game
One handed, R1 allows punches that can be combed with R2 kicks, both can be charged to make unique combos, L1 allows a Sekiro style parry and L2 allows a flurry of kicks or a stomp depending on how long it’s held
Two-handed allows even more combo potential, the idea being you are now all offense, forgoing the parry, as now the bumpers are assigned to each of your fists while the triggers are your feet, you can combo the attacks up to five times and the combo changes depending on the order and the final hit of the combo changes as well, imagine just a flurry of kicks that ends in a huge wind-up punch, or straight up the Lone Shadow kicks combo.
The best part? Two handed can stun like a great sword but is balanced out by a combo ended having long recovery, knock back and stamina cost
The ash of war is awesome wym. Staggers on charge up
The ash of war is insanely strong now with the new update
@@UnCh4rT3D Great, I don't really care how strong it actually is. It just looks and feels lame compared to what it could have been. I have a hard time feeling like a badass, when the best I can do is gently tap the ground.
I defeated every boss in this list just in a couple of hours max each during my gaming sessions... Except two demigods: Radahn took me one day and Malenia was literally worth a whole week of retries.
Its curious, I killed radanh at my 7th try but Godfrey took me more than 8 hours
@@GauTrang_3e3 this is relatable. But, to be fair I embraced the summons for Radahn because I like story related summons. I dread going back to fight him without them on my second character.
@@sthxdnn1 I feel this, i beat every boss within 10 tries except for margit (very under leveled but was stubborn, beat morgot on first try lol) and mohg lord of blood literally took me 50+ tries it felt like.
@@GauTrang_3e3 they nerfed radahn in update 1.03
@@loganh6991 yh ik but I killed him before that
Finally beating Godskin Noble will forever be one of my proudest gaming moments, I don’t know if I was under levelled at the time or lacked certain gear but Godskin Duo nor any other boss came close the to level of frustration and eventual satisfaction for me. This game is full of similar unique moments for players and part of what makes Elden Ring so memorable
Somehow did malenia on attempt ~10, my bleed build destroyed her health, but blood mohg took me like 50 lmao, I didn't know about the special tear against his ultimate and got there around midgame, by far the toughest fight for me
Can’t wait for the quality ranking
Soon. Mini-boss difficulty first, then it's time!
@@theDeModcracy Aren't there like 80-something minibosses? How many videos is that going to take?! (Btw, Crucible Knight is a Pontiff/Gwyn-like situation where you can parry him to make the fight much easier, so take that into account.)
@@lawmanlawman2210 OH god dammit I should have tried parrying
@@theDeModcracy Thank you for getting f*cked for us, DeMod.
@@HunterForHire422 Yeah, I quite literally discovered it on accident when I accidently hit the parry button and he opened up for a riposte (it was at 3:00 am, I wasn't really paying attention to the buttons I was pressing), made all of his fights much easier, just roll the magic/shield bash and jump the stomp and parry the rest.
The longest I spent on a boss was just under 2 hours, except malenia, who took me 12. So yeah, she might be slightly hard, just a tad.
as in for a single battle taking you that long or the time it collectively took?
@@jeremybk54 bruh u trolling 💀
I believe you
I’m pretty sure the longest I’ve spent on a boss is also 2 hours but I’m not even close to Malenia and didn’t watch most of the vid to not spoil myself
@@tomasdelcampo2 Huh good fucking luck, fought her yesterday and I thought I had it down with a max level sword of night and flame, had to respec TWICE and use entirely different playstyles to come close to defeating her, good luck fellow Tarnished
For Malenia you need to wear light armor to be able to evade her, for her infamous attack roll back the first 2 waves and for the third one roll to the front, with practice it can be completely evaded, best of luck tarnished!
Fun fact about the Godskin Duo fight! Even if both are dead at the same time, the fight will NOT end! In one of my (failed) attempts, I managed to have both dead at the same time. There were a few seconds of silence before the one that died first popped in and then a bit later the second one came back. Still had to kill the other one and a half afterwards
Funny how the Mimic ash can neutralize most of the difficulties for these bosses. But not Malenia… she is just too op with that heal.
With hoarfrost stomp, he can do it to some degree, phase 1 she is just stun-lock, but phase 2 she still hard as hell, hah
yeah cause she heals hitting the mimic, killed her on my third try with bloodhound fang, you can stagger her pretty easy the only real problem is the second phase.
I just beat her today after 4-5 tries and I was level 170 something but I lucked out and she went after my mimic ash and we was just spamming sword of night and flame which melts her health.
Still though she is definitely the most difficult boss I’ve faced in Elden ring.
Nop, I beat Malenia sub-10 tries with mimic tear, a collosal weapon, and some incantations
Mimic plus rivers of blood eviscerates her
I've come to the conclusion that all the gank bosses are meant to have you use the spirit ashes. Only thing that makes sense to me.
i agree. a lot of this game seems geared around some variety of co-op. all the purists are like "don't use ashes git gud scro". well fuck me. don't use a sword then. or any weapon for that matter. and forget leveling you filthy casual. just use your base character and fists like god and miyazaki intended. it's such a silly argument. USE. THE. TOOLS. THE. GAME. GIVES. YOU. or don't, i don't give a shit. you do you.
@Weyland Punani Well, what they intended and what the result is are mutually exclusive. Spirit Ashes trivialize the game to a point that I tend to not use them personally, and I don't think they intended to have them make fights so easy.
I think ashes are almost like an in built difficulty slider. Wanna get your ass pounded? Don't use em. I was a bit disappointed how easy radahn was with all the friendly summons and haven't used them since
@@janusthemanus1416 i agree, spirit ashes should be better balanced, some are pathetic, some are godlike, but after you level most of them up, they simply make the game too easy, I'd like to be able to use them without trivializing the bosses, I was fighting malenia by myself and was getting wrecked, summond a lv10 mimic, and voila, the mimic could almost solo her, that doesn't make sense
After the patch they added Recusant Bernahl to the Godskin Duo fight and he _fucks_ them up.
For the last tenth of my playthrough, I was basically playing as Tiche's squishy helper.
There's your easy...ier mode guys. Granted, you have to get past through Alecto to get it, and that's not a simple undertaking, but it's worth the pain.
for the Godskin Duo, I used a dual wield katana build (rivers of blood +9 and moonveil +9). Deal a little bit of damage to the noble then focus on the apostle until you kill him. Keep whittling away at the noble until he begins the ressurection, then you can L1 spam for bloodloss until he dies, leaving only the apostle. Then whittle away at him until he begins to ressurect and L1 spam again for bloodloss. Rinse and repeat until the boss healthbar is no more. This strategy took me about 2 1/2 minutes on my clean attempt
"Malenia is the hardest boss, but that's just my opinion"
That's not an opinion, he's speaks the truth for everybody
I see no one has done the chad method of poising thru all her attacks with regen spells going
@@darylhall3858 better idea
Just don't get hit
Not really, it depends. She killed me the second most amount of times, at 12 kills.
But for some reason, the Godrick knockoff kept killing me.
@@lrsb1678 yeah, he would be forgettable, but considering I didn't die to godrick, but died to godefroy over and over, I will have trouble sleeping for the rest of the year due to a combination of anger and self-loathing
Shes definitely tough, but I died way more on the radagon elden beast fight with all the rng. Her heal gimmick and sister fried game busting movements are tough until you stagger her.
Its insane how different of an experience everyone had with these bosses. I downed Morgott on my first attempt and it was one of the most rewarding moments in the game for me, but got my absolute ass handed to me by Godfrey/Hoarah Loux, taking over 20 attempts.
Same here. I beat Morgott first try but Godfrey kicked my ass
Same, I'm not sure what people do with Morgott but I faced him at level 100-120 because I thought the capital is hardcore endgame content
@@bighatastrea yeah same, i think ur actually supposed to beat him before radahn based on the scaling of enemies in the cealid area the order is supposed to be something like this
limgrave > liurnia > capitol > mt. gelmir > cealid
wild. i solo'd hoarah. took 2 attempts. morgot i couldnt d. the one i had most trouble with was fire giant
@@vincent78433 I thought it's Limgrave - Liurnia - Caelid - Altus Plateau - City. Because I think Radahn's recommended lvl is 70. And when I was done with Liurnia, I was lvl 65 or something. But if you're talking about Eastern part of Caelid (where the Bestial Sanctum is) you're right, enemies and bosses are endgame stuff there.
I can't wait for a new list of the top difficult Bosses through all the soulsbourne games with elden ring now in the rotation
Finally. Someone who acknowledges the difficulty of misbeggoten and crucible knight duo boss battle.
That fight pissed me off.
I found away to kill misbeggoten quickly enough before crucible knight fully spawned in after a few dozen tries and after that I had to fully learn crucible knights move set as that version of crucible knight is tricky.
crazy how everyones experience varys wildly. he put Godfrey first elden lord so low. in my own playthrough he was like number 5 i would say if not 4th hardest. i killed godskin duo in 3 attempts and godfrey took me like 25attempts lol.
Exactly what i was thinking! I see almost everyone having different opinion on some bosses difficulty, I killed godfrey on my 3rd attempt, and it took me like 50 to kill Morgot.
@@DJRyby facts , i hp maxed to 1715 and then went on riot, like morgot on 2rd attempt and godfrey on 2nd attempt and still have to learn magic so to survive had to boost the hp ,surely one hell of a game and how it varys
I could get through Godfrey with full flasks but second phase kicked my ass
Morgott was really easy (Got him on my second try) for me but Godfrey and the Duo were a massive problem
Yeah Godfrey is easily top 5 for me whereas I got Morgott on first try
One of my favorite things about Elden Ring is how wildly different everyone's experience is. Some of the bosses higher on this list were a piece of cake for me, while bosses that were towards the bottom of this list stumped me for days. I love it.
Mohg Lord of Blood is by far my favourite boss in Elden Ring, defeating him felt so good after i almost mastered his moveset.
I struggled with Death Rite Bird more than any of the bosses on this list lol.
Malenia was one of those fights that made me glad I chose to try a magic build. Still wasn’t easy by any means but man I did not envy melee builds for that one.
What are your current stats? Your mind and intelligence? I’m building mine and don’t know when the best time is to fight big bosses. I’m level 54 astrologer.
That three rounds of one million attacks per second move is probably one of the most OP moves ive ever seen, i would be holding my own againts her until she whips that out and then its instant death. Ive always had a feeling that we THINK weve seen difficult bosses, but if Fromsoft REALLY wanted to make a difficult boss then they could be doing so much worse! Its scary to think they're probably holding back and are learning and adapting our tendencies. What i love about this game is it feels like its made towards the vets who think theyve seen it all
@@kaseymelkonian9587 If you're level 54 you're MILES away from even spitting in the general direction of Malenia so don't worry about that. Anything less than 40 VIG and you're dead instantly (and can still get one-shotted by most attacks). Just keep poking around the world. If a boss is ever too hard then leave and go elsewhere. I didn't kill Malenia until I had 40VIG, 40MIN, 30DEX, and 80INT. Used Mimic Tear+10 (Moonveil equipped) and spammed cold pebble spell phase 1 (to apply frostbite). Then phase 2 all in on defense until she flowers and then blast her from range. Took about 3 flowers before I managed to end her.
I’ve seen dex builds melt her in 3 min with mimic. Fire with fire.
@@TarasiosW Thanks for this info! I only beat Margit and he wasn’t bad. Beat some other cave bosses too. I’ve got ways to go. I’m just exploring now and leveling up as much as possible! I wasn’t even going to try the bigger bosses until I’m a bit more powerful! This is helpful though!
I guess you've been told already that Lord of Blood's curse can be uplifted with the special tear for your flask. And ye, Godskin Duo is bullshit xD
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Mimic tear makes the fight a joke
In addition, both Margit and Mohg have shackles you can use on them to stun them for a period of time.
I also have an item that nullifies the black blade. I didn't use it at the time, but I'm guessing it nullifies the burn\health drain effect.
Now if only there is a counter to Malenia's healing. I suspect she's supposed to have a moving health bar ala Bloodborne, as that's what her rune implies, but it doesn't seem to work that way.
@@bradendavis2973 malenia is the only fight that isn’t a joke with mimic tear lol
@@bradendavis2973 Mimic tear and summons in general make every single fight a joke. Using any of them is a good way to ruin the game
So fun fact, #15 the twins can actually jump to their deaths, just stick close to the water fall near the building you came in from and eventually they end up "accidentally" jumping to their deaths. This actually makes their boss fight more of an endurance test if you're using a sheild that blocks 100% psychical damage.
Just think of your ash spirits as your 2nd phase. So if the boss has a second phase, 2nd phase as well with an ash spirit.
Bests ash spirits in my opinion.
-Mimic tear 🔮 (what else can I say?)
-Black knife Tiche 🔪 (Very evasive)
-Latenna the Albinauric 🏹 (Great to take agro off you from afar)
Malenia was the fight that made me decide to go full cheese. Hoarfrost stomping with a +25 weapon and my Mimic doing the same made her die. It was quite the hoedown
I Beat her without a summon... That were tough attempts.
After 4 hrs i Beat her and the satisfaction was insane
I did that, went full cheese mode PLUS summoning 2 online players to help me, after 30 or so tries I still could not beat her. Either my summoned players would be just as bad as me or she'd focus me with the flurry attack and instakill me unless I managed to dodge through it. Then I tried again this morning just playing it normally with mimic tear (i had tried this many times) and somehow beat her second try. Not sure what I did differently but I guess I got gud.
@@sirjoey3137 there is the increased boss health when in co-op. Also well done!
I got a glitch that made her have like 1 hp when she entered her second phase. Only reason I won within this century considering how much trouble I had in phase 1.
@@SorowFame I actually got that too on one try. Had my mimic use blood loss weapons (twin katanas) and I used the hoarfrost stomp with weapons all maxed. She just came in with one health and it was so out of nowhere, i accidentally died because i didn't pay attention enough.
PSA: You can keep attacking a dead godskin in the godskin duo while he is the death animation to keep damaging their health bar. You can get about 3000 damage before he is gone and respawn.
you just copy/pasted the other comment from 20 hours prior. Get rekt you tool.
@@SobeCrunkMonster how old are you
You have to kill either one of the skins 3 times
I wish someone told me this before I died to them over 100 times
@@SobeCrunkMonster Nobody cares.
This just shows how good summons can be for boss fights.
Fun Fact: The Blasphemos Claw you get from an npc invasion in farum azula can actually be used to parry Malikeths phase 2 attacks, as long as there is a golden kind of glint on the sword.
And half the time, THAT won’t even work. I tried it too, at the point where the sword was glowing gold, and none of the parries ever registered. Don’t even get me started on how the Blasphemous Claw is literally the exact same set of animation frames as medium shields, *and we all know how weird the parry times with THOSE shields were in Dark Souls 3,* so they just had to carry it on here as well. 🤦🏻♂️ FromSoft can’t even replicate DS3 right!
Malenia is the only boss where I had to throw my greatsword build out of the window and just grab up a bleed weapon. The greatsword was too slow to get good damage on her before she would just heal it all back up. But bleed is just busted and takes chunks out of her health bar.
If you're running a strength build I've had a lot of success with Hoarfrost stomp on the twinblade. It's an odd strategy but the damage it puts out on top of the Frostbite procs it's absolutely wild. It takes a bit of getting used to and you'll still have to dodge her but it can stun on hit and allow you to melt her HP. That being said, best of luck with anime wombo combo as that has demolished everything I've tried other than a great shield with Barricade which still allows her to heal but at least you're not dead in the process XD.
Status building weapons in general are nutty in this game, and dex really lets you take advantage. First FromSoft game I didn't play through first with a strength build.
you think bleed is good wait till you use an int build
Hoarfrost stomp everything.
@@samuelvibritannia4831 STR builds are total garbage in this game. I’m on the final boss and I’ve only used mimic once so I’m playing “legit”. It’s sucks
In all of the souls borne bosses, I never experienced such a struggle until I met malenia. Definitely wasn’t “fun” but dammit it was rewarding killing her. I put her in the same spot as the evil within akumo mode. Basically saying, it’s a nice ride but I’m definitely not getting on again
So she's kinda like the 2nd coming of Maria
Completely agree about the not fun aspect. I was way more annoyed than I was having fun. Only reason I beat her is because I got lucky and she didn't use the waterfowl dance on my winning bid.
I'll put your comparison and the fact I've completed akumo mode as well as achieved all trophies of both Evil within and Bloodborne as a means of giving me hope that I wont struggle too miserably when I finally take on Malenia
@@raizen21ss56 yeah you’ll pull through
hard disagree about Malenia's fight not being fun. I ran a dual-wield build when I fought her my first time (straight swords at first, but I transitioned to scimitars with Bloodhound's Step eventually), and though it still took hundreds of times for me to learn her moveset, I still found her to be not only engaging, but thrilling as I danced with her among those flowers. Perhaps it's just because I'm insane, but I adore her fight, and can't wait to get to her on my other files to experience her again with all of those different playstyles.
i love how ranking elden bosses is like ranking ahs seasons. everyone’s is different. my top ten for my only/current run:
1. placidusax...i still can’t beat him
2. radagon/elden beast...i just can’t beat that beast.
3. borealis the freezing fog...another fight unfinished
4. godskin apostle (divine tower of caelid)
5. full grown falling star beast
6. godskin noble
7. radhan
8. morgott (outside of leyndell)
9. alecto black knife leader
10. astel natural born of the void...the second one in the yelough anix tunnel
honorable mentions:
malenia...getting to her was the hardest part!
fire giant...thrilling and manageable once you get a rhythm, but finding that rhythm was the tough part.
i’m so close...that damn elden beast is so hard 🤬
I can hardly imagine how anyone on earth can find another boss than Malenia at the first place of the most difficult boss in Elden ring.
She's BY FAR the most difficult boss even designed by Fromsoft. In fact, I'm convinced she's almost impossible to beat with certain builds.
I love this boss. My favorite in Elden ring, in fact, but I've got to admit, her Waterflow dance is utter BS. If she does it from a distance, fine. It can be tricky to dodge everything unscathed but it's doable. If she does it at close range, however, you're screwed unless you're a master who can circle around her and perform a pixel-perfect roll when the first flurry comes out. And this thing does so much damage too. If you've got scratched before or thought it wouldn't be necessary to heal that tiny bit of health you were missing before, well, bad news because just the first flurry does 1500+ damage (which is more than 75% of your health even with 80 vitality).
And things don't even get easier if you summon since you essentially give her a free boost and a wandering HP dispenser to drain from. There's nothing, in any Fromsoft games, that comes even close to that.
If you have good poise you can dodge to avoid most damage even after getting clipped by waterfowl. It’s not really a matter of dodging all of it it’s a matter of surviving.
@@CatchTheseMechanicalHands That's precisely the issue I have with this move. "If you have good poise" is already a condition that pushes quite a few builds out of the window. Some builds will have reasonably good chances at beating her but for others, it will be nearly impossible.
If I were Fromsoft, I would nerf bleed to make her tougher against it and soften the first flurry of waterflow dance so it can be consistently avoided by all builds (I'm not even asking it to be easy to avoid, just doable for the like of us...mere mortals who don't have inhuman timing and reflexes).
The problem isn't whether the move can be dealt with or not but the gap of reasonable chances between the best and worst build available in the game (and I mean, best and worst against her).
Because let's face it, while Malenia is basically unbeatable for certain builds, she can be erased from existence like a regular mob for whoever builds around River of blood, for example.
@@GenLiu you can use the great jar talisman and some decent armour like the crucible tree knights without a lot of weight commitment, but you’re right in that a lot of build do struggle against her unfairly
i found radagon and elden beast more difficult, and maybe valiant gargoyles too, everything depends on the build. my melee build with bloodhound fang is terrible against the gargoyles but very decent against malenia
@@vgcv123 I can see that, actually. Malenia is the kind of boss that can become trivial if you have those very specific builds that destroys her (I mean, your right. At the end of the day, your build dictates your experience in Elden ring).
The fact that you struggled against Radagon and Elden beast makes sense too. In fact, I have a friend who had a similar experience and he was using the Bloodhound's fang as well. So, that weapon really seems to suck against Radagon/Elden beast.
By extension, I can see the Gargoyles being tough too. Everything that's resistant/immune to bleed performs poorly against those bosses.