Rant: Dragon Ball Super? More Like Dragon Bull Shit!

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @mromgspy1
    @mromgspy1 7 лет назад +43

    From the 1st episode I could tell this was just one big filler series.

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +8

      Justin Line
      Well, that's what GT was, and Super is no different.

    • @HeroTheHedgehog999
      @HeroTheHedgehog999 2 года назад +5

      @@Gardetrace Well GT is the final one and after the end of z. Super is literally before the end of z. Also GT is better than Super despite its flaws.

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Год назад

      @@HeroTheHedgehog999 GT is better true but it's still bad

    • @VaneKaji
      @VaneKaji Год назад

      @@HeroTheHedgehog999 True GT does have its sins. But I do like it. Super? I don't blame it. I blame the writers.

  • @pigboykool
    @pigboykool 8 лет назад +48

    You are correct man. There are so much non-sense in DBS to the point I can no longer consider it as part of the original DB universe. I can only watch it as some low budget C-rated Saturday morning cartoon.

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  8 лет назад +21

      pigboykool Dragon Ball Super is nothing but a toy commercial to me. GT has a lot more credibility than this crap.

    • @dankspiderman579
      @dankspiderman579 7 лет назад

      While I didn't know people would waste their time ranting about a show that revived the one all anime fans love, don't like super, don't like Z. This show has brought back many things that made the original Z exciting, and it returned BETTER THAN EVER. It doesnt matter if Vegito had a time limit! It matters that he showed up. Plus, the SSJ overwhelmed the Potara, causing the fight to be shorter between Buu and Vegito, so it wasn't Buu who did it. As I was saying, it returned Vegito, the character that was the embodiment of awesomeness. They returned Future Trunks, with making him the only one with one new cool transformation. You dare call yourself a Dragon Ball Fan? And what the heck is wrong with GT? Sure, there is more than a few plot holes and such but it was good nonetheless, it didn't overload on new transformations. And Gogeta is different from Vegito massively, Gogeta has to be created when Goku and Vegeta were on the same level, the rules don't apply for Potara. And you forgot Trunks reached a almost god-level transformation, so no doubt Trunks had the potential of killing Merged Zamasu.
      -From, the True Dragon Ball Fan.....Me....

    • @dankspiderman579
      @dankspiderman579 7 лет назад

      Worst burn ever, I don't even go that way.

    • @devonwilliams1663
      @devonwilliams1663 7 лет назад +1

      Its a quick cash grab

    • @devonwilliams1663
      @devonwilliams1663 7 лет назад +3

      Dank Spiderman the show is full asspulls. Theres no more creativity anymore. Its rushed fan service

  • @the7thseven873
    @the7thseven873 7 лет назад +37

    They shouldn't have gone to all that Gods power stuff, it's just too overpowered now. And as you said the arc and the power scaling just doesn't make sense anymore. if Goku black was this strong, what will the next villain be like? and the villain after that? and so on. I find it was a big mistake to go with the "Gods" powers. DBZ was perfect. Now it just feels like any villain can destroy the earth just by sneezing. Or blinking his eyes. DBS! You done messed up... For me that is.
    HOLD UP!! ain't done yet.
    What's up with this DBS Goku? Why did they make him so Childish and dum? I understand Goku is an alien and never went to school. But, Come on!! Toriyama, You reall gon make Goku look like a Fool!? Never kissed his wife!? You're telling me, son Goku, The father of Son Gohan And Son Gotan. Never kissed his own dang wife, which he his been married to for god knows how long!.. WTF!?! No man just.. No, that Shii wasn't funny, that was just sad. *Sigh* it's over.. They turned him into a Fucking dum ass Cartoon character. I know DBZ Goku wasn't the smartest, but at least he acted way more mature than this DBS Goku... I'm going back to DBZ. The one and only Son Goku.

    • @devonwilliams1663
      @devonwilliams1663 7 лет назад +10

      Super will never be Z. Thats it

    • @SteveCrafts2k
      @SteveCrafts2k 4 года назад

      @@devonwilliams1663 doesn't have to be.
      It just has to be a good show. Not this mediocre slog.

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Год назад +2

      Yeah Super is horrible

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Год назад +2

      @@devonwilliams1663 that's true

  • @PaulMuadDibUsul
    @PaulMuadDibUsul 7 лет назад +39

    DBS take a huge dump on DBZ lore...

  • @ssickhead1
    @ssickhead1 7 лет назад +17

    i agree with everything you said. i didn't really like GT before i knew that was popular opinion about it and that it wasn't canon (so i wasn't a band-wagoner), but DBS...damn...i went into it with open arm but it has done nothing but disappoint me a shit on everything DBZ established. it's a disgusting show that makes GT looks like a masterpiece

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +13

      SickHead
      Dragon Ball Super is really nothing but a toy commercial. It's a cash grab with all of the quality of the story thrown out of the window. GT has it's problems, but it does add to the lore of Dragon Ball, while Super keeps contradicting it.

    • @ssickhead1
      @ssickhead1 7 лет назад +3

      yup, exactly

  • @Orochi97Jr
    @Orochi97Jr 4 года назад +7

    Dragon Ball Super?
    More like Dragon Ball:Wrath of the Asspulls.

  • @LordHarlyquinn
    @LordHarlyquinn 6 лет назад +27

    It's a shame you have such little views cos you speak truth

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  6 лет назад +18

      MF STEEZ
      That's usually how it goes. Those who kiss ass get more views than those who speak their minds. But thank you. I appreciate that. ;-)

    • @LordHarlyquinn
      @LordHarlyquinn 6 лет назад +5

      Gardetrace it's cool nigga. I personally read the manga and have been enjoying it at its upmost. There isn't half as much fan service and plot holes that compensate only for convenience and fan service. The anime.. sucks. Visually pleasing and entertaining I'll give it that

  • @qoyote
    @qoyote 7 лет назад +11

    This comments section only seems to be attracting the most cancerous Super fans, not any of the reasonable ones. It's almost like they're looking for haters to go after because they have no lives.

  • @Dark_Knight.-
    @Dark_Knight.- 3 года назад +9

    This is the true power of plot amor

  • @Snatchem
    @Snatchem 2 года назад +6

    Years later, they take your Idea and give Goku an MUI Susano’o😂

  • @ftu2021
    @ftu2021 7 лет назад +31

    every reasons u say gt sucks, return double for super, gt deserves more credits

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +12

      GT had cool concepts and completely underutilized them. Super has no comprehensible plot, even less so than GT, and it drops the ball even further than GT ever did. I'm not saying that GT is good now, but at least it didn't sink this low.

    • @illuminatikingtrunks1066
      @illuminatikingtrunks1066 7 лет назад +1

      Jun 1 The fights are so piss poor in Super

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 8 лет назад +14

    What about Goku overpowering Zamasu without Kaioken? Ironicly, Vegito's Final Kamehameha was confirmed to use up all his power episode 67 and it did shit to Zamasu.
    Gotenks SSJ3 form lasted for 5 minutes because of the same reason as Gogeta in GT.
    Dragon Ball Super has been a waste of time so far. Even if we exclude the movies existing and look at the first 2 arcs, they are poorly written fanficy shit.
    I mean a villain vastly stronger than Frieza slept for 40 years and goes to earth just because he dreamed fighting a Super Saiyan got that happened to be convinietly a prophecy and part of Namekian Myphology?
    Or how about Frieza getting stronger than SSJGSSJ by training for just 4 month without any inside and still manage to look like a joke? Why doesn't Gohan not get a rage boost? Why is Krillin scared suddenly by Frieza soldiers of all things, considering all the development he got and even attacking Super Buu to help his comrades? Why time reversing bullshit?
    You also have the pointless tournament arc with no stacks, weak ass opponents, obvious outcomes, retconning SSJGSSJ mechanic constantly. It was boring to watch especially because Vegeta purposely hold his transformation back to create fake tension.
    And lastly the Blue Trunks arc oh boy. They just destroyed Trunks entire character with that.
    He didn't have any real development without regressing his character from the HoT special and the Cell Saga similar how Vegeta and Goku are regressing every fucking arc, making the same mistakes and go through the same development. However, Goku and Vegeta, regardless how much they acted out of character, their entire character wasn't destroyed like Trunks' character did. Think about it, Zeno destroyed the universe Trunks lived in. What does he do? He goes in another timeline where there is already a Trunks and Mai acting like it is a happy ending.
    It doesn't make sense for them to meet the people with whom they fought, because the timeline they are going to, most likely don't even know them.
    Sadly, that was the only arc, that had potential to be good simply because of the concept of making a Kaioshin a villain. They could have used it to introduce the Makaioshin lore. Instead you have a villain that swaps body with a mortal without a real explaination why besides him being more powerful than himself and him hating human which contradicts his entire character.
    I could write about all the other bullshit, but my comment is already long enough and there are countless videos going on full detail with everything wrong with this arc.
    Like this guy here:
    ruclips.net/video/6Kod70mjFVo/видео.html
    I just drop this piece of shit.

    • @Tyrik73
      @Tyrik73 8 лет назад +7

      The whole Krillin scared by Frieza`s soldiers was a Dragonball Super only thing( Krillin was never Scared of Frieza`s soldiers in the Dbz rof movie).

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville 8 лет назад

      Tyrik Flood-Feaster He was scared of the stronger ones because Krillin can sense ki. Also, after that he developed to the point that even Cell or Buu didn't scare him to a point he wouldn't fight for his loved ones.

  • @coredetta
    @coredetta 2 года назад +4

    Why channels that speak truths are underrated??

  • @CompanyLagoon
    @CompanyLagoon 7 лет назад +10

    From what I've heard (watching the dub), some things I could let slide, but ruining Vegito's appeal was the final straw. He was my favorite character and they took away his appeal just for a 10 minute (not even) appearance when they could have reintroduced Gogeta instead to make him canon.

    • @WeedMaxxer
      @WeedMaxxer 5 лет назад +1

      Gogeta (DBS) is canon.

  • @JnGArtimation
    @JnGArtimation 7 лет назад +5

    Main problem with the "power of friendship" angle in most modern Japanese shows is that (aside it being a Deus Ex Machina) we're given a shitty villain. In stories like that in Shounen/Shoujo/Bishojou stories usually has an antagonist who is either uninteresting or just a villain for villain's sake with no clear background. They usually never had friends or people they relied on in their life and just feel like life is worthless and needs to be corrected. They'll tell you their motive but it doesn't mean it's always a good one.
    A Shoujo show that does it right in example would be Sailor Moon during the 90s. Queen Beryl was the villain of the first season but she wasn't always a villain. Anyway, she needs energy from lifeforms in order to stablize and "feed" her empire in the Negaverse. Which how it's set up. Her goal was more of a personal vendetta against the Moon Kingdom. She was also in love with the Prince on Earth but he was in love with Princess Usagi. This turned into jealousy. You somewhat sympathize with her but it's enough to feel she's a good villain.
    That's usually the major issue. Having a God character as a villain is not always solid idea. You begin to think things like "what's their beef with the human race? Wouldn't they want to overthrow another God?" Then it just turns into a literal god complex of "wanting to wipe away known origin and make a superior race.
    But, yea. On the other hand, it's just fuel to pander to people who like shipping as well.

  • @fitzgivesfits1
    @fitzgivesfits1 5 лет назад +5

    Elder Kai was young, he was fused with an old witch; that's what made him OLD in appearance. Maybe his knowledge of the earrings was incorrect. He was locked away for centuries without gaining further teaching.

  • @happycube8762
    @happycube8762 7 лет назад +4

    It's worse in the manga because vegito uses the final kamehameha and he fucking defuses!

    • @ShinOrochi
      @ShinOrochi 7 лет назад +1

      At least a lot better than Vegito used Final Kamehameha and Zamasu still didn't feel hurt in the anime

    • @happycube8762
      @happycube8762 7 лет назад

      +Shin Orochi thank you

  • @rossdavis428
    @rossdavis428 3 года назад +3

    Nothing is more funny than realizing that there are an abundance of Dragon Ball Super fans who actually try to defend these nonsensical garbage caliber of plot points~

  • @davidorton4293
    @davidorton4293 7 лет назад +14

    This proves kid buu is a lot stronger and zamasu is nothing front of him.

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +13

      David Orton
      That's what Super would lead you to believe. Hell, Goku gathering energy from other planets to make a Spirit Bomb wasn't enough to kill Frieza, so...Frieza (before going Golden) was stronger than Zamasu?

    • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
      @RomanHistoryFan476AD 5 лет назад +5

      @@Gardetrace Vegeta sayian saga tanked the spirit bomb as well so he is more powerful than Zamasu. power scaling what's that, well to these writers just an easily removable inconvenience in the way of there bad writing.

    • @stephvondames6067
      @stephvondames6067 5 лет назад +2

      This is not a shock to me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @androidsenpai1462
    @androidsenpai1462 8 месяцев назад +1

    If they were gonna go with fanservice, why not SSJ3? The form that Trunks still doesn’t have yet, and arguably the coolest looking transformation design in the entire franchise.
    Why pass up giving the character in the franchise with the most amount of cool looks the SSJ3 hair?

  • @MrSupasheva
    @MrSupasheva 7 лет назад +5

    Guys Dragonball Super and GT are never canon. I refuse !!!

    • @MrSupasheva
      @MrSupasheva 7 лет назад +6

      Zamasu should have died the minute Vegito came into the picture. I have no idea why they had to make Trunks the main guy in this arc. I wanted to puke when future Trunk's world was obliterated. I share your thoughts exactly, he had the perfect happy ending from the android saga. Why mess with his story now?

    • @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
      @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் 5 лет назад +2

      His hair is blue, therefore is non-canon.

  • @Hector-lv5gi
    @Hector-lv5gi Год назад +1

    U can't watch dbs with common sense it will drive you insane. Those guys make shit up as they go along.

  • @ahmadsaleem1487
    @ahmadsaleem1487 7 лет назад +7

    Bruuuhhh... the end of the trunks arc and gt are all the reasons why one should never trust toei animation. SERIOUSLY!!
    BTW, can you do DBS manga chapter reviews? I bet that'll get you more views, at least from me.

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +3

      dragonball fan
      I haven't been reading the manga, but I've been considering doing so in order to compare it to the anime. When I do read it, I'll start posting reviews of it. :-)

  • @Gardetrace
    @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +4

    Hey, everyone! Just so you know, I HAVE OTHER VIDEOS, so check those out too!

  • @r.knight0912
    @r.knight0912 3 года назад +3

    Gardetrace You Rock ✌👍

  • @Jc-587
    @Jc-587 5 лет назад +3

    Wouldn’t it have more sense for trunks to turn super saiyan god or blue instead of that rage thing? Like he’s fought against goku, vegeta, and black which all share god ki.

  • @ps-lt2jf
    @ps-lt2jf 3 года назад +2

    elder kai took some drugs when he made the rings

  • @hit-plaster
    @hit-plaster 3 года назад +5

    bro i used to hate on u back in 4 yrs ago i was such a idiot bro u was totally right can u pls forgive me

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  3 года назад +5

      It's cool, bro. No hard feelings.

  • @BudokaiMan-mr9tw
    @BudokaiMan-mr9tw 7 лет назад +2

    I love DBS, but FUCK THAT POTARA RETCON!!

  • @uteriel282
    @uteriel282 7 лет назад +3

    cut the goku black ark down to 1.5hours, name it something like "the rogue god" and its like every dbz movie ever.

  • @r.knight0912
    @r.knight0912 2 года назад +2

    13:37 My Thoughts Exactly

  • @mackmane1291
    @mackmane1291 3 года назад +3

    Well you was right about a super saiyan susanoo but it's goku's

    • @Omega-jg4oq
      @Omega-jg4oq 3 года назад +2

      lol he really accidently predicted it, goku got so much of plot armor he has freaking actually sussano, I hate how power hungry he becomes and it's disgusting

  • @pawnscrib1842
    @pawnscrib1842 7 лет назад +2

    Also I had that Black Goku isn't Future Goten it would have given Goten more character development.
    Also,why couldn't Super explain that the permenent Potara fusion only works on Kais

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +6

      Pawned Brisk
      That would be cool. Too bad Super refuses to give Kid Trunks and Goten any development, or let them grow up for that matter.

    • @pawnscrib1842
      @pawnscrib1842 7 лет назад +6

      Look don't go SSJ on me but if GT is able to make better character development than Super and GT isn't even canon then right now it's the worst DB when it comes to characters.But it could be because Toriyama is having writers blog and doesn't want to copy from GT

  • @tasmaniandog4449
    @tasmaniandog4449 4 года назад +2

    That's the most big bullshit when future trunks did that atleest Godzilla is better series then dragon ball super

  • @missxmarvel
    @missxmarvel 7 лет назад +2

    It would have been better If db super wasn't canon or a spin off that stick true to the original show. Atleast I would have forgiven all the shitty retcons and dumb plotholes that makes no longer sense when you watch the old stuff. I only came back for vegitto and was left disappointed and stopped watching but then I saw a poster of a battle damaged Goku with a new form. Ill wait until they reach that episode before I'll watch it again but If that sucks like all the arcs then Im done forgood.

  • @jeremyalvarado7517
    @jeremyalvarado7517 2 года назад +1

    No yeah he can trunks can use the Spirit Bomb not him physically but if the Spirit Bomb were gathered together and then like it was placed into the sword then he can wield that and utilize the Spirit Bomb through that means just like when Goku made the Spirit Bomb against Vegeta and handed it off to Krillin and Krillin was able to throw it only after being made by Goku

  • @batboythecool
    @batboythecool Год назад +2

    funny thing is goku has a susano now....

  • @rrose9161
    @rrose9161 Год назад

    To be fair to elder kaioshin he was sealed in the z sword for a long time and gowasu is equivalent to him in seniority/authority when it comes to the potara ( so not a retcon/ shittywriting)

  • @deep_cover1879
    @deep_cover1879 7 лет назад +5

    The best thing to come from Dragonball Super is that Super Saiyan God Blue looks cool. But I cannot be convinced anything that happens in the show will mean anything. In fact the Buu saga was not really a strong note to end DBZ on, but at least there were villains that created some kind of tension in the show. The drastically increasing power levels in the series are the biggest flaw in the long run. Remember when Gohan fought Cell, or when Goku fought any villain pre-Buu saga? Lol and the Trunks bullshit really has you confused. Me too.

    • @347tester
      @347tester 7 лет назад +3

      deep_cover187 i dont think so tbh its just a color swap

    • @deep_cover1879
      @deep_cover1879 7 лет назад

      And sometimes color swaps are enough to make a difference.

    • @347tester
      @347tester 7 лет назад +3

      deep_cover187 umm no its not its the same as regular super sayian except blue unless the color blue is amazing to you this form doesn't have shit on ss4 or ss3 as far as looks

    • @deep_cover1879
      @deep_cover1879 7 лет назад

      lol I don't know how old you are but you either should pay more attention in school or go back. You first said it was just a color swap. I said sometimes a color swap can make a difference in the context of looks (I originally said it looked cool) I never said it's the same as regular super saiyan.

    • @347tester
      @347tester 7 лет назад +4

      deep_cover187 ...... dude ik what you said i stated that it looks just like the regular super sayian form just blue, meaning ........ unless you like the color blue .... its not really a transformation it looks especially lame compared to ss3 and ss4 ....... how did you possibly get what i said confused. ...... but ok i need to stay in school. so you dont get confused again im still talking about looks take your time and think about what im saying im still talking about looks

  • @bertcarroll1243
    @bertcarroll1243 2 года назад +1

    Yeah just remind me of my little pony cause you can’t win a power up what are youTraining for it
    Also this is not Naruto show you can’t just wind power up when you don’t have help learn your mistakes people

  • @youtubesurfin8427
    @youtubesurfin8427 Год назад

    In the end how could vegito defuse when he's not even breathing hard and he was trying ab the same against buu fought like 3 times longer

  • @LoneWolf89POW
    @LoneWolf89POW 6 лет назад +2

    The dude is right super is bull shit

  • @PhantomBlackStar
    @PhantomBlackStar 7 лет назад +3

    If Trunks didn't beat the guy, while Goku or fused does, people talks about how weak and useless Trunks , and its all about Goku , Goku , Goku again lol.

  • @gbbpainting243
    @gbbpainting243 2 года назад +1

    I know this is old, but they could've used gogeta instead

  • @laetrille
    @laetrille 7 лет назад +2

    I agree man

  • @Sean-sn9ld
    @Sean-sn9ld 3 года назад

    Yamcha's been makin spirit balls since before Z

  • @plains7000
    @plains7000 6 лет назад +1

    Granted I only saw the 1st episode of Fairy Tail in English Dub.

  • @danieltinsleykhvsff9622
    @danieltinsleykhvsff9622 4 года назад +1

    I disagree with the uchiha part but this video was amazing

  • @plains7000
    @plains7000 6 лет назад

    DBS only have 39 episodes so far on DVD. I've still watching the english dub of this online.

  • @nicholasnorman4179
    @nicholasnorman4179 3 года назад

    xenoverse 2 DLC with zamatsu it took all the time lines to make that with trunks and I was like okay I'm cool with it

  • @comicbrovenomartisticwarri5464
    @comicbrovenomartisticwarri5464 6 лет назад +2

    Trunks was much stronger than when he was fighting with ssj3 Goku and Trunks transformed into false super saiyan blue just like Goku transform into false ssj in that Slug movie. Trunks used his anger to transform and anger makes a saiyan more powerful and When he cut Zamasu into 2. It was the power of every mortal on Earth. It was the energy of other mortals that boosted Trunks so much in the end. Don't you think my brother.

    • @loveInvincible6400
      @loveInvincible6400 5 лет назад +2

      Can you not think like a Human being let alone a writer. Trunks never knew how to obtain SS Blue so doing all of that ruins the power scaling in so many levels it's ridiculous.

    • @KenshinX126
      @KenshinX126 3 года назад +1

      Also you could never explain how tf trunks made a spirit bomb oh wait spirit sword he never knew that would work.

  • @bertcarroll1243
    @bertcarroll1243 2 года назад

    That’s my question right there what’s the rule dang it

  • @rebelwarmann83
    @rebelwarmann83 7 лет назад

    right on! plus this is how overpowered goku is!? how is it that goku can teleport between demission! he's not dead!!!

    • @Gardetrace
      @Gardetrace  7 лет назад +3

      RebelWarMann
      It seems like Toriyama gave him Instant Transmission as an excuse for Goku to be anywhere the plot demands.

  • @kingscrafty1523
    @kingscrafty1523 7 лет назад +1

    watch anime live reaction super saiyan blue explained

  • @MrXteRRor
    @MrXteRRor 7 лет назад +1

    I subscribe

  • @fitzgivesfits1
    @fitzgivesfits1 5 лет назад

    Is this cartoon hard for you to understand? You seem confused a lot. Math must blow your mind.