@@Sg-ci4kp you should learn about bike category first to talk about horsepower. 650 is slower than 600 and 675. Daytona 675 and other 600cc bike is a supersport category. While 650cc bike is only normal sportbike that produce lesser power.
@@faizierazali3494agree with you, 650cc is sport touring while 675cc old Daytona Supersport category or more specific Daytona 660 is for daily commuter with fuel save & budget user while Daytona 675 for serious user, racing technology & track dominate! Not suitable for daily commuter it will cause your back acne
If the new R9 takes after the current MT-09, it's gonna be superior to the Daytona or CBR650 for sure. But it will be far pricier, could be looking at least $11 k.
I think the new Daytona is a great addition to the budget middleweight sportbike market. It offers a competitive price and a unique 3-cylinder engine with decent power and features. While it's a bit on the heavier side, considering the price, it's forgivable. But, imo, using Daytona's name for this kind of bike doesn't sit well with me. What's your thought?
This is exactly what I thought when I first saw the bike. The DAYTONA name is something I associate with a track oriented bike. Sure, they were good road bikes as well but their primary focus was shaving off time at your tracks. Now it feels like the complete opposite, road bike first then track bike second (but even as a track bike I don't think it would make the best platform to do so). They could've called the bike anything else but the Daytona 660 and I wouldn't mind it in the least. Might just be me and/or possibly a few other people but using the name Daytona just doesn't live up to the previous bikes that had the Daytona name.
@@LOCKHIMUP2024Its mainly for Europes A2 license. The max hp allowed is 95 so manufacturers have to produce watered down engines to make 95 hp while being eco friendly and cheap. I think its shit too, but atleast ill be allowed to ride it and its not going to be very expensive
Nice comparison! Fuel range is important to me, so it's an interesting choice, though I'd give the advantage to the 660 based on almost the same pricing if I had to choose one for better comfort but a stronger engine. Thanks. The red looks great, nice design.
Because, its made for a2 licence holders. You can legally restrict the 660 down to 47bhp. With the 675 you cannot. They discontinued the 675 for poor sales, nothing more. 660 opens it up to a big market
If the Daytona is as reliable as Honda, I would go for it. It's cheaper ($700) , has basically the same peak horsepower, but with stronger bottom-to-mid grunt. Not to mention, it's also lighter and has more features
@@johnnyhun1the CBR650R is not a real sport bike lol the 600RR is, it’s ergonomic position is basically identical to a VFR, a sport tourer. If you line up both positions over each other the Daytona is SLIGHTLY more sporty with a higher seat height, peg and bar height are identical between the 2. I have a picture that compares both rider triangles…
For the small price difference I'd have a hard time seeing why anyone would choose the Yamaha. The first bike I owned back in 1970 was a used '68 Triumph 500 (Tiger 100) and it couldn't take the abuse a 19 year old was giving it constantly, ... which left a really bad taste in my mouth about Triumph, and so I never owned another. I like this one though. The triple cylinder sounds a hundred times better than the twin, and the bike looks a lot better than the R7 too.
the daytona's 660 engine is not from the trident 660 but its from the street triple s 660. its based on the old 675 daytona but with a lower stroke so its A2 compliant
@@Champion2Managerpower its no everithing imtjere are bike whit 200hp boring to ride but when you ride the r7 you smile its a pure motorcycle whit cable throttle non technology only driver and engine suoer fun and fast in every ways, other bikes its only fast on straight line whit a lot of tech you dont feel that sensation and its boring
Yamaha seems to be lazy these past years. In the R7 for example, I've read there's no difference in the tuning for the R7 vs the MT07 - it's literally just a faired and reinforced MT07. The R3 is also left behind, so much so that the R15 has more tech and better design than the damn thing. The R6 was also never made emmision compliant, unlike the ZX6R and the CBR600RR.
@@wargolemx102Yeah, yamaha has been becoming lazier ever since 2018, they didn't even try making an euro 5 compliant R6, they just pulled the plug, the Mt07 still has standard forks,(even though it's 2023, and inverted forks have pretty much become the standard) is low on power, and it's price doesn't justify the lack of features. The R7 has been getting clapped ever since it's been introduced, first by the cbr650r and the Rs660, and now by the daytona 660, the R7's only redeeming quality is it's lightness, and it's still not enough to bridge the HP gap, Yamaha should really do something about the CP2 and CP3 platforms, they are so behind the competition it's unreal.
idk man, that 660 looks like a touring bike, very old design and it looks so small. feels like asian 150cc sportsbike lol. y'all look goofy riding that.
The performance figures aren't too far apart with the MV being the winner interms of performance specs. The main question is how much are you willing to spend. You can get a Z900 for less than 10k while the Brutale is around 15k, you get the MV if you want something a little more exotic and you get the Z900 if you want the bang for your buck. This is just my humble opinion though.
you gotta understand that due to euro compliance triumph cant bring back 675 because that complaint and less overall interest in biking was the sole reason they discontinued the 675, to be frank triumph is not at fault here it's the new regulations which are killing our bikes.
@@comrade_jj haha, then what about the new cbr600rr ?! they upgraded the engine to meet euro emissions despite its the same 10 year old engine… not to mention that the dealerships can’t deliver them for new buyers because its already sold out everywhere for this year
No, should have been called the Sprint 660, back when Triumph made both the Sprint and Daytona, the Sprint was a more ergonomically friendly sport bike, where the Daytona was a super sport…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 daytona: bike all of it's own. Sprint: bike all of it's own. New daytona: more aggressive, fully faired trident. You: should have called it sprint.🤷🏻♂️
The 660 is definitely a stand out in the middle weight category, nice video Second Gear!
Thanks! 👍
yeah the rs660
Haha what nah
660 all the way, inline 3 sounds better than the parallel
Not as good as old 675 though...gone are those fund days as all we have now is nerfed version. R7 sounds far better with Ap pipe.
@@LooxJJ you need to realise triumph 660 is 650cc category. While 675 is competing with supersport 600cc like r6, zx6 and cbr600
@@faizierazali3494 wtf what are you talking about? The old 675 produced nearly 10% more hp
@@Sg-ci4kp you should learn about bike category first to talk about horsepower. 650 is slower than 600 and 675. Daytona 675 and other 600cc bike is a supersport category. While 650cc bike is only normal sportbike that produce lesser power.
@@faizierazali3494agree with you, 650cc is sport touring while 675cc old Daytona Supersport category or more specific Daytona 660 is for daily commuter with fuel save & budget user while Daytona 675 for serious user, racing technology & track dominate! Not suitable for daily commuter it will cause your back acne
Now there is a good reason for Yamaha to produce the r9
If the new R9 takes after the current MT-09, it's gonna be superior to the Daytona or CBR650 for sure. But it will be far pricier, could be looking at least $11 k.
More like 15k same as the new 990 KTM@@SecondGearYT
I think the new Daytona is a great addition to the budget middleweight sportbike market. It offers a competitive price and a unique 3-cylinder engine with decent power and features. While it's a bit on the heavier side, considering the price, it's forgivable.
But, imo, using Daytona's name for this kind of bike doesn't sit well with me. What's your thought?
Why do you think they introduced a less powerful watered down version from the original ⁉️ This seems to be a trend....😮
This is exactly what I thought when I first saw the bike. The DAYTONA name is something I associate with a track oriented bike. Sure, they were good road bikes as well but their primary focus was shaving off time at your tracks. Now it feels like the complete opposite, road bike first then track bike second (but even as a track bike I don't think it would make the best platform to do so).
They could've called the bike anything else but the Daytona 660 and I wouldn't mind it in the least. Might just be me and/or possibly a few other people but using the name Daytona just doesn't live up to the previous bikes that had the Daytona name.
@second gear
Do comparison of Daytona 660 and the RS660, surely that's it's main competition
@@LOCKHIMUP2024Its mainly for Europes A2 license. The max hp allowed is 95 so manufacturers have to produce watered down engines to make 95 hp while being eco friendly and cheap. I think its shit too, but atleast ill be allowed to ride it and its not going to be very expensive
@@florianring7340 Thanks 👍👍👍
Nice comparison! Fuel range is important to me, so it's an interesting choice, though I'd give the advantage to the 660 based on almost the same pricing if I had to choose one for better comfort but a stronger engine. Thanks. The red looks great, nice design.
parallel twins sound like go-karts and it makes me sad
I think close comparison might be between Daytona 660 vs Honda CBR650R
nice editing
Don’t know why they didn’t just use the 675 engine from the original Daytona and bring it up to date.
Because, its made for a2 licence holders. You can legally restrict the 660 down to 47bhp.
With the 675 you cannot.
They discontinued the 675 for poor sales, nothing more. 660 opens it up to a big market
we need daytona 660 vs cbr650r
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I’ll choose the daytona but the other question here is what would you choose between daytona 660 and cbr650. 😁
If the Daytona is as reliable as Honda, I would go for it. It's cheaper ($700) , has basically the same peak horsepower, but with stronger bottom-to-mid grunt. Not to mention, it's also lighter and has more features
cbr650r is a real sports bike and the daytona is an adventure bike.
lmao@@johnnyhun1
@@johnnyhun1the CBR650R is not a real sport bike lol the 600RR is, it’s ergonomic position is basically identical to a VFR, a sport tourer. If you line up both positions over each other the Daytona is SLIGHTLY more sporty with a higher seat height, peg and bar height are identical between the 2. I have a picture that compares both rider triangles…
@@johnnyhun1the 650r is no where near a true sports bike. It’s a very cool bike but it’s more of a touring bike with fairings
For the small price difference I'd have a hard time seeing why anyone would choose the Yamaha. The first bike I owned back in 1970 was a used '68 Triumph 500 (Tiger 100) and it couldn't take the abuse a 19 year old was giving it constantly, ... which left a really bad taste in my mouth about Triumph, and so I never owned another. I like this one though. The triple cylinder sounds a hundred times better than the twin, and the bike looks a lot better than the R7 too.
very big difference in reliability in new triumphs. But hey, you were 19year old at that time, stupidity and maintenance may ruin a lot of stuff
Daytona vs aprilia rs 660
Ok the daytona 660 has way more technology in it but wich bike will just give you more FUN?
Why no 8R??
*Türkçe çeviri için teşekkür ederim.*
I’ll spend my money on the Truimph
the daytona's 660 engine is not from the trident 660 but its from the street triple s 660. its based on the old 675 daytona but with a lower stroke so its A2 compliant
Both bike will cost 3x in my country😢
The headlight being inside the central air duct on the r7 kills it; 660 all the way.
Daytona 660 vs gsx 8r
there is something i hate about the sound of single or twin cylinder bike..... There is this high pictch metal vibration sound
it's main competitor is CBR650R so....😉
Very hard to fault the Daytona.
Briz technology absolutely
I’d choose the CBR650R all day
Got to go the R7 much lighter and better suspension
R7❤❤❤
🤐 22 hp less your love is at the wrong place I see ❤️🩹
@@Champion2Manager on the paper yes,but on the road story is completly diffrent...
@@Champion2Managerpower its no everithing imtjere are bike whit 200hp boring to ride but when you ride the r7 you smile its a pure motorcycle whit cable throttle non technology only driver and engine suoer fun and fast in every ways, other bikes its only fast on straight line whit a lot of tech you dont feel that sensation and its boring
660
yamaha made the R7 so useless without ride by wire and qs. now it's time to make a real supersport and the R9 but with tech from 2024 not early 2000s
On paper the Daytona is better, but aesthetically the R7 looks much more like a motorbike
New Daytona isn't a R, is a baby vs the original Daytona and looks like Yamaha R3 tricylinder 😂😂😂😂
Yamaha R7 needs more HP - weight and torque aren’t everything
Yamaha seems to be lazy these past years. In the R7 for example, I've read there's no difference in the tuning for the R7 vs the MT07 - it's literally just a faired and reinforced MT07. The R3 is also left behind, so much so that the R15 has more tech and better design than the damn thing. The R6 was also never made emmision compliant, unlike the ZX6R and the CBR600RR.
@@wargolemx102Yeah, yamaha has been becoming lazier ever since 2018, they didn't even try making an euro 5 compliant R6, they just pulled the plug, the Mt07 still has standard forks,(even though it's 2023, and inverted forks have pretty much become the standard) is low on power, and it's price doesn't justify the lack of features.
The R7 has been getting clapped ever since it's been introduced, first by the cbr650r and the Rs660, and now by the daytona 660, the R7's only redeeming quality is it's lightness, and it's still not enough to bridge the HP gap, Yamaha should really do something about the CP2 and CP3 platforms, they are so behind the competition it's unreal.
Weight and suspension is everything!
pretty easy to clap the r7 considering the only upgrades theyve done was a new paintjob lol@@BlueNades1
And Daytona 660 vs GSX-8R? Please!!
660 for sure the hole in the middle of the R7 is fugly
cbr650r
idk man, that 660 looks like a touring bike, very old design and it looks so small. feels like asian 150cc sportsbike lol. y'all look goofy riding that.
Goddamn Yamaha getting destroyed out here man
☝️Kawasaki Z900 vs Mv Agusta brutale 800🙏🙏🙏🙏
The performance figures aren't too far apart with the MV being the winner interms of performance specs. The main question is how much are you willing to spend. You can get a Z900 for less than 10k while the Brutale is around 15k, you get the MV if you want something a little more exotic and you get the Z900 if you want the bang for your buck. This is just my humble opinion though.
LAUNCING ,,,PAP,,@
ZX6R will smoke both of these bikes
even the ZX4RR can compete with these
This AI generated narration is horrendous. Just hire an actual human.
Decent video otherwise. Best watched on mute.
daytona 660 is a joke compared to the daytona 675
you gotta understand that due to euro compliance triumph cant bring back 675 because that complaint and less overall interest in biking was the sole reason they discontinued the 675, to be frank triumph is not at fault here it's the new regulations which are killing our bikes.
@@comrade_jj haha, then what about the new cbr600rr ?! they upgraded the engine to meet euro emissions despite its the same 10 year old engine… not to mention that the dealerships can’t deliver them for new buyers because its already sold out everywhere for this year
@johnnyhun1 when i said killing bikes means they can't produce more horsepower the exhaust systems are more restrictive now.
R7 fail 😂
Ah yes. Back to the boredomweight sportsbikes. Should never have been called a daytona. Should have called it a trident rr.
agree with the naming thing. Trident RR would be a better name for it, but I guess it might not sell as well as the Daytona name.
@@SecondGearYT idk man. Apart from the street triple, I think trident is triumphs best seller.
No, should have been called the Sprint 660, back when Triumph made both the Sprint and Daytona, the Sprint was a more ergonomically friendly sport bike, where the Daytona was a super sport…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 daytona: bike all of it's own. Sprint: bike all of it's own. New daytona: more aggressive, fully faired trident. You: should have called it sprint.🤷🏻♂️
@@loftyintentions1985 and in terms of ergonomic setup, the new Daytona is similar to the Sprint, so calling it Sprint would have been fitting…
ok the AI narration is garbage......