What Happened To The Hulk?
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025
- The Hulk, from a destructive, strong, feared character, to a bad comedic relief. What happened to the hulk? Let’s get into it!
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2003 Hulk is the real deal end of story. The iconic jumps, the running, regeneration, getting bigger when angry, the transforamtions. Simply amazing.
Yeah man I LOVE that one. I have no idea why it gets the hate. It's badass but also campy and it's even got those cool comic book window shots.
Getting bigger when angrier is a misconception and false based on the comics. He does not grow when he gets angrier, only if he absorbs more gamma radiation. MCU changes too many things.
Bad film though
Agreed
Gamma dogs though.
Also in the comics thanos has said that he trys to avoid fighting the hulk not because he can't beat him but simply because of how his strength works
Movie Thanos just straight up beat Hulk in hand to hand combat.
The "power levels" in Infinity War are all over the place and I just find all the action boring because of it.
@@PauLtus_BWell said brother. What the actual fxxxck happened to the Hulk moto: The angrier he gets the stronger he gets?!!!! In 2003. Hulk got his balls but by a dog with the same powers as him and Old Yeller that beast. In 2008. Hulk nearly popped Blonsky's head clean off before that epic fight he Gerald Butler 300 kicked him towards a freaking tree. The Hulk will go for THE KILL if you pissed him further! The Russo Brothers should've known better! Which is why the MCU is screwed when loser Feige brought those fools back for Doomsday and Secret Wars!!!
I wish Joss Whedon was directing all The Avengers movies. Hate the man because of Justice League all ya like but The Avengers 1 and Ultron is peak mcu😊 Infinity War is good. But what they did with Hulk is unforgivable and disrespectful for us paying tickets to see our green Avenger brawl it out!!!🤬
@@PauLtus_Bmakes sense in rl l somebody y more skilled in fighting could beat someone stronger than themselves although hulk being scared of him makes no sense.
@@bryanmarcia4104I think it's more so "You know what Banner? I'm sick of you bringing me out only to fight. I'm not helping you."
you forgot the part where he says he tries to finish the fight quickly for the same reason. The best way to get Thanos is to catch him off guard, which Hulk did accurately, same with Thor and Nebula. Loki tried that and failed.
They started incorrectly power scaling him somewhere along the way. The Hulk needing that arm sling doesn't even make any sense.
He's not angry so a lot less powerful in every sense including his healing factor. Professor Hulk needed Plasma Guns in the comics lol
@@lytebluestudios Granted, but its like, why is the MCU adapting these random things and not things that sold well.They are surprised people dislike the Hulk but are adapting things that weren't even popular. Whats next, Amadeus Cho?
hell, they are even doing Sam Wilson as Cap and that almost killed the run of Captain America comics! and Jane as Thor? Why are they adapting slop that didnt do well is the question.
@@ManCheetah294;(
They put his arm in a sling to make the statement "This is what happens to people who try to use the infinity stones, even if they are the Hulk", it is the Power Cosmic and doesn't gaf about "gamma powers", it also left scars on Thanos, who can k.o. The Hulk
@@TwinSimian That is how they wrote it, yes, I am just pointing out how its bad lol
Thanos fist fight against the hulk would have been a good fight to showcase both Thanos and the Hulk.
Thanos beats up Hulk by being just as strong but an much better fighter.
Hulk gets angrier
Thanos is still holding up, showcasing how much actual fight skills matter. But he is struggling now.
Hulk gets angrier
Thanos is now on the defense, but does not go down easily
Hulk gets angrier
Thanos is forced to use the stone and ends the fight
Hulk losing to an infinity stone would make sense.
Perfection 👌
Both Norton and Bana's performances are much more intense than Ruffalo's performances. Their Hulks seem unpredictable and much more dangerous.
I loathe Ruffalo’s caveman hulk. He just looks more silly than intimidating. Norton’s hulk to me is the embodiment of the sheer animal that hulk can be whereas Bana’s is the more comic accurate variant. A combination of Norton Hulk and Bana Hulk would be optimal.
He was solid enough in the first Avengers movie. They basically wrote him like he was the bomb under the table in Hitchcock's analogy.
@@carloszestyboy2901 I love the way he's designed in that movie. His muscles look painfully strained and his skin looks like a damned mountain, he is rampaging energy, he is a humanoid explosion blinded by rage. He should be scary
I dont think its ruffalos fault that its written like that
They ruined all of the Avengers; Thor is a goofball thanks to Taika Waititi, Steve Rogers is retired, Black Widow is dead, we’re getting a bastardized hybrid version of Tony Stark/Dr. Doom, etc. Hawkeye had the most self-awareness when he said in Age of Ultron “I’m just a guy with a bow & arrow, none of this makes any sense”
Thor is a goofball thanks to the Russo Brothers completely butchering all the great work that they themselves did in Infinity War when it came to Thor. Thor's character arc from Age of Ultron, Ragnarok, and Infinity War has to be the greatest arc in the MCU. Waititi continued the butchering in Love and Thunder that the Russo brothers started in Endgame.
Funny how I was like the only person who was against the goofyfication of Thor in Thor 3. then Thor 4 happens and everyone hates it now 😂
@@Dilaudid281 Endgame Thor has to be the WORST depiction of Thor in any media (this is probably an exaggeration but it was just that bad man)
I think that's about to change since the backlash of Love and Thunder.
Your comment is so powerful
The Incredible Hulk: The OG product
Disney Hulk: Hulk from Amazon Basics
She-Hulk Bruce: Hulk from Temu
Read the comics then and you'll see that Smart Hulk/Professor Hulk has been a thing on and off through the 80s at least, possibly even earlier.
@@DaigeDemonslayer professor hulk was no wimp, just weaker than Savage Hulk.
@@shjp2148 : He isn't a wimp in MCU either.
@@DaigeDemonslayer yes he is
@@ForeverLeaf0: You obviously don't understand this.
The last good thing about MCU Hulk was when Ruffalo said they can't kill him because he himself tried to blow his head off. Everyone went silent, not because of any comedic timing, but because of sheer shock. It was a *very serious* moment that solidified Banner's perception of the Hulk as a curse and for that moment, everyone in that room (and in the theater) actually GOT that.
In She-Hulk, it's cannon though that he is unable to fathom the pain and hurt of simply living as a woman. That is why she is so much more powerful, being a woman and mistreated gives her much more anger to get stronger from.
@patron7906
That scene pissed me off lol.
Bruce Banner: had an abusive father, watched his dad murder his mom as a kid, became the hulk and had to keep himself away from the woman he loves while her dad and the military hunt him endlessly, had to live with a monster inside of him that directly fed upon his trauma, forcing him to maintain constant control of his emotions even to the point where sex was off the table, became suicidal and then couldn’t even resort to that end so he mastered himself and finally made peace with who he is.
Jennifer Walters: gets catcalled and deals with coworkers that she views as less than herself, is instantly better than anyone at everything.
@@patron7906what is bro waffling about 😭
Disney. 'nuff said.
Nah, but they took Hulk who was a perfect example of an actual autistic tantrum and turned him into the pseudoscience modern tick talk version of multiple personality disorder.
"tick talk?" Is that like "fayse buck" and "instuh graham?"
@mikerotcherson I dunno. It's where all the sucking parasites are.
@@mikerotchersonlmaoiooooo
Disney owned marvel during the time of avengers pt. 1 😐
@@fmwu1574 and he had already begun the Disney decline from a rage monster to "I'm always angry."
The incredible hulk is the best iteration of hulk to date
They removed his ‘toxic masculinity’ 😂😂😂
The main problem is that due to licence related issues, they couldn't give Hull another solo movie so they couldn't give him proper screentime. It's crazy that his character arc is done offscreen in Endgame.
Nah, that's BS. They could've done a number of things with him in the films he was in, but they never did, especially in Endgame. But the Russo's had no clue what to do with him, so they completely wrote him out of the story.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Actually, they had plans for him. Mark Ruffalo stated in an IGN interview that the idea was to make a character arc for Hulk across three movies (Thor Ragnarok, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame). The character arc leading to Professor Hulk ain't that bad of an idea, it's just very poorly executed. First because the last thing we saw from angry Hulk is an humiliating defeat against Thanos, which makes his disappearance very disapponting, and also because Professor Hulk is born offscreen and barely fights. I didn't mean to say that whole licence issue is an excuse because it is absolutely not, but it didn't make things easy.
@@rialyandriamiseza9814well hulk losing to Thanos is accurate to the comics though
Even the marketing and trailers for Infinity War showed Hulk being present at the end battle. That's honestly one of only 2 issues I have with Infinity War.
@rialyandriamiseza9814 Everything leading to Professor Hulk is the laziest route they could've taken. Getting rid of the most interesting part of the character isn't character development. Especially Bruce already learned how control Hulk, or at least summon him in the Incredible Hulk movie, so this is just rehashing the same arc. They couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum of using him for the action scenes. Instead they turned him into a joke. They took a dynamic character and made him completely stagnant. Made him insignificant. He could've been replaced by any smart marvel character. That's not a plan. That's completely misunderstanding the character, and then not even attempting to do the bare minimium. It's just lazy.
idea of more angrier more stronger was not implemented to the mcu btw
Regardless everyone knows that basic fact about Hulk.
If they failed to implement that, they failed miserably.
@@coolbeans3752it’s not a basic fact, even in comics he isn’t always like that
@@НикитаКашин-ш6л2003 Hulk is the most power accurate Hulk film . Disney nerfed every character in the MCU.
Hulk is also immune to psychic attacks in the comics because his rageful mind is too much for psychics to influence. But apparently an inexperienced Scarlet Witch mind controls him easily in Age of Ultron.
@@petermj1098 well, ok. You need to reduce power for more grounded approach
@ No needing the characters is the reason the movies suck now. Just cause a character is powerful doesn’t mean they are not well written.
I liked when Hulk smashed. When he stopped smashing, he ceased to be Hulk for me.
That's why i love Ang Lee's Hulk movie. He gets more stronger and more bigger the more angry he gets. The more PTS me gets from his childhood. More from Ang Lee's Hulk from 2003.
It’s almost like it was being comic accurate.
I didnt care for the size increase aspect that was not something he did in the comics. Hulk gets stronger the madder he gets not bigger. World war Hulk wasnt walking around the size of titan even though being on of the strongest versions ever
@@johno1544 So you think Hulk is always the same size in the comics, LOL?? World Breaker hulk is 12 feet, and grew to 300 meters at one point.. You've never even seen Hulk being as big as a planet in the Immortal Hulk comic series, and you want me to believe you've ever read a comic book??
@kaybigg Please I can cite hundreds of examples over decades where Hulk never grew in size no matter how angry he got. You cite two examples both of which happened years after the ang lee movie came out, like world breaker Hulk that grew after absorbing the energy of 6 gamma bombs and mystical energy from Hercules. Funny how you left that info out LOL I'm not going to even start with Immortal Hulk. I've been reading and collecting since the bronze age get out of here with your immortal Hulk as big as a planet trash writing. You are probably a fan that defends them making Silver surfer female in the new F4 movie because she appeared in like two comics
@@johno1544 Except you haven't cited one of those examples where he grew stronger no matter how angry he got.. You used World War Hulk as an example which came out in 2007.. You need to start giving examples, including Immortal Hulk, if you have a little bit of dignity left.. Immortal Hulk is the strongest Hulk ever, and mcu fanboys who don't know anything about the comics will not use such examples, because of the trash writing of mcu and how they neutered Hulk into just a strong big guy.. I don't care about the mcu at all, since it came out, so you can take your comedic characters and keep them.. Stan Lee, the creator of Hulk, was the executive producer of the 2003 film, even admitted how genius it was of Ang Lee portraying Bruce inheriting the supersoldier gene from his dad and became Hulk.. Familiarize yourself with stuff that actually matter
The appeal of a character like Hulk is in his polarity. Like you said he a wildcard. He could go off on the enemy or his own team alike. Wha't more, what gives the character depth is the constant struggle of maintaining control. Banner is a brilliant scientist, Hulk is an unstoppable force, yet both of them are fighting to exist in 1 body. Banner constantly needs to repress hulk in an effort to keep those around him safe. Anger is one of the easiest emotions to get caught up in, so this character is about channeling your inner demons. Not just channeling those struggles but making them work to your advantage. Thats been lost on MCU writers.
Did you completely forget about Ang Lee's _Hulk_ starring Eric Bana? It was the original big screen Hulk which also depicted him as an unstoppable rage monster who got bigger and stronger the more he was antagonized.
Its bcuz the 2008 version was the first time hulk was introduced in the MCU
The last straw for me was thanos beating his ass and hulk pussing out after that im not mad that he lost just that he wimped out after
Yeah, and the worst part is they never got their rematch
Well, in the original Infinity Gauntlet/Infinity War comics…Thanos mops up everyone, including the Hulk who was in his Professor persona at the time, so what happened in the MCU version tracks…
@@DRoyale1 hulk wasn’t a big sofite or a wimp in the comics, his professor hulk was way cooler than what we got
@@StoogesTheTwo granted, but he still got whooped, just like everyone else, that’s only point…doesn’t matter how tough you thought you were, Thanos still put people face down in the dirt.
@@DRoyale1 the issue most, and def me, wasn’t hulk losing, that was awesome! And it showed thanos’s position on the totem pole. But sidelining hulk to endgame, then completely rewriting his character to be someone’s idea of a relatable hulk, killed his coolness factor in the MCU.
Hulk 2003 and the first 2 avengers films are the best renditions of the hulk. In 2008 his incredible jumps are ignored and his healing factor barely registers (he had little cuts that last waaaay too long).
Also, for information, in 2008 the Hulk didn’t get bigger when he got angrier. Which was good as I didn’t particularly like the getting bigger idea much.
He was ruined by Disney, just like pretty much everything else that company touches.
Disney is slowly killing off main characters in the form we all know and love. They do this to push their strange agendas
2:45 This is a point I rarely see brought up. If Tony has the Hulk Buster, which we saw have the capacity to defeat Hulk, the why would they ever call in a Code Green before summoning the Hulk Buster??? And it can't be a power consumption issue, or an issue like "it hurts the user the longer they use it" because Bruce Banner was just casually using it in Infinity War and Endgame to confront Thanos, and we saw no repercussions in using it instead of the main Hulk.
I never got the impression that the Hulk Buster suit could defeat the Hulk. Tony clearly took the situation very seriously and looked far more worried than even when he fought Ultron moments before. It's more so something that Tony created to engage with Hulk long enough to attempt to calm him or distract him long enough to minimize the damage of the rampage. By the time Tony was able to subdue him, he was already coming out of the trance Wanda put on him and was realizing what he had been doing. He was most likely about to revert back to Banner, which probably had a bigger impact on being knocked out than the hit from Tony.
The Hulk losing to Thanos in a bout of gentlemanly fisticuffs. Terrible .
EVERYTHING in this video is spot on. I could not agree more! thank you
Honestly, Professor Hulk is so far from the worst things the MCU has done in the last 10 years that I don't have the strength to be upset with it.
I have to save my energy to go after all the bad new characters that are pushing out all the great classic characters.
Professor hulk is a real thing in the comics I hope you know that
@@westside9032 That is why I chose those specific words. 🙂
A version of Hulk very much like Endgame's is fairly prominent.
Professor Hulk isn't even the worst thing the MCU did with a character within just Endgame. That dishonor goes to Fat Fortnite Thor.
Great review 👍🏻 Ruffalos hulk was so despicable
Due to writing
I agree with most of this, but I don't think he lost to the Hulk-Buster, I thought it was more that he looked at the city he was destroying and Bruce Banner awakened a little, which of course greatly weakened the Hulk himself. At least that was my explanation as to why having a skyscraper fall on him didn't knock him out, but one final punch did.
“It being about the anger is lame it should be about his heart rate”
“His power increasing with his anger is so cool”
Cmon man
In to the defence of the Hulk buster, there are multiple scenes during the battle where Tony sprays a gas in his face, and when the satelite sends the capsule, the capsule is also throwing gas at him. It's kinda fast but you can see those scenes tony was trying to calm him down
Gas don't mean anything when Hulk can simply hold his breath, so no its just bad writing.
Terrible excuse.. That's like saying Thor used mjolnir to win a fight, or Clint used his arrows.. Hulk lost in a fair 1v1 fight, which Stark used his weapons properly to win..
@@kaybigg No he didn't a depowered hulk lost against Iron Man, he has one super power over Hulk and that's Script armor. Hulk has been getting the worst of MCU's garbage since Avengers 2012. xD
@@Maximus1Decimus When was mcu hulk ever been depowered?? Plot armor or not, a holding back Stark whooped puny Avengers Hulk at his strongest.. In Avengers 2012, he got knocked out from a 10,000 foot fall, and later KO'd by the chitauri chariots, so he has been weak since the conception of the mcu
@@kaybigg try as soon as he was turned over to Marvel Studios. A comic accurate Hulk would destroy Iron Man low dif. What we have here is a joke..nothing more and nothing less.
Basically RDJ went and had the script switched to his favor.
4:58 😂😂😂😂oh hell no man.. What that f*ck man?
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The reason why Iron Man was able to make him bleed it because they was taken damage from wearing the gauntlet and using the gauntlet it’s taking toll on his body
My friend said a guy he worked with had a kid who loved the Hulk back when the first movie came out. The guy took his kid to the movie and the kid was terrified and hated the Hulk after the movie. I suspect that sort of reaction was why they had to dial him down.
Didn't one of the directors say they couldn't figure out how to write powerful characters, so they had to get rid of hulk
Disney in early 2ks:🗿
Diney in 2020s:👶
Pretty much all started with Feige's decision to make him more family friendly starting in the first Avengers movie. They removed the edge his character had, and it got worse every film. The humor essentially made sure that he was never treated seriously. Not as Bruce Banner or as Hulk. Even in the action, the humor, took center stage with his character. He wasn't scary anymore. He was a joke. And they didn't even bother to do the bare minimum of using him in the action scenes towards the end. They couldn't figure out what to do with him, so they essentially wrote him out of the story in Infinity War and Endgame.
What could the hulk do in infinity war and endgame besides lose to Thanos?
@westside9032 He could lose to Thanos in Infinity War and then in Endgame he could come back for a rematch with Thanos. He doesn't necessarily have to beat him, but distract him so the Avengers can get the stones. Or even remove the Gauntlet during the fight. Something epic. They took a dynamic character and made him stagnant. They couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum of using Hulk in the action scenes. All because they had no clue what to do with him. He may as well not even be in the story at all. You could easily replace him with any smart Marvel character, and then have Thor snap instead. Nothing changes because he's so insignificant.
@westside9032 here is my pitch. In Endgame, Bruce thinks all is well. He's doing fine and being treated as a celebrity. However, throughout the film Hulk gets tired of hiding. He's tired of Banner being treated like a celebrity. So, he begins to fight with Bruce for control. Adding another hurdle that the Avengers have to deal with. Then at the end, Bruce eventually allows Hulk to take over so they can defeat Thanos. Hulk and Thanos have a rematch. Hulk's strength is increased because of the Gamma radiation he absorbed from snapping. He's able to remove the Gauntlet from Thanos. Iron man gets the stones. Thanos is knocked down and comes to just in time to see Tony snap. I feel this would work what they trying to do because they essentially work together to achieve the common goal of defeating Thanos. Their original plan for getting the Gauntlet in Endgame makes no sense. Hulk here just takes the place of Captain Marvel. She was shoehorned in and didn't need to be in the film anyway.
Edward Nortons Hulk was peak. Really sad they didnt bring him back and keep his version.
Guaranteed Ruffalo had in his contract to have more lines and whatnot for a bigger payday. Some BS like that.
to be fair, hulk didn't lose to ironman. hulk lost to an ironman using a super suit specifically designed to fight the hulk, probably costing far more resources than any of his previous suits. that suit required repairing mid fight as the hulk was clearly still too much for it to handle as is, and at the end of the day, ironman defeated hulk once scarlet witch's mindfuckery started fading out, which was the source of his rampage to begin with. just saying "hulk lost to ironman on a 1v1" is reductive to the point of decieving
after that though, yeah, his character was completly assasinated
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thanos beat his ahh so bad he made hulk go through self reflection 😭
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Thanos ain’t nothing to play with he’s goated
Thanos regularly smacked hulk around in the comics
You’ve made a ton of great points
I think they made this decision because every time the teams starts to lose, they're just call The Hulk. That gets dull really fast. It's kinda like the old question, "why doesn't Voltron just form blazing sword immediately since all rights seem to end with it?"
I would rather they write the Hulk off than do him like this and I think he would too.
Ive never understood the "im always angry"line, like no bruh you turn into a green monster when you're angry
The reason he was trying to kill them was because he was being manipulated by Loki's scepter. It's why they were all becoming aggressive
i’m so glad others like the 2008 hulk, he looks way more cool also
Why or how he decided to help the Avengersis in a deleted scene where he talks to the janitor guy after falling from the airplane. 2) He transformed the second time at will so he could control his intent. Also Captain America and Stark were was nice to him as Banner so subconsciously is why he's happy to take an order from CA and save Stark.
They stopped him from growing when he gets injured too.
They turned him into a wimp
Great vid keep it up bro
I hope you get 1 million subs
2:11 for me this is written off as the hulk attention span. The best hulk is threatening but “distracted” by the enemy.
World War Hulk. They took that plot, and made it about Thor (plus hulk side character). This is supposed to be the story of Hulk settling down, finding love, having all of that destroyed, and UTTERLY ENRAGING HIM to a point where he becomes a planet buster level threat where he goes across the cosmos destroying absolutely everything.
Instead, its a subplot that gets squeezed into Thor: Ragnarok. Great.
"Smat Hulk" is his wekist stage. i have a memory of that once he got so mad he started emit gamma radiation and just got stronger and stronger almost destroying a world with a step.
Ang Lee's 2003 Hulk. Better power demonstrations.
"The longer Hulk fights, the madder Hulk gets. The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets!" Hulk needs to smash to get me back from the boycott.
The closest MCU Hulk got to feeling like a traumatized man fighting with his uncontrollable persona was where he said he attempted to blow his brains out but his other self wouldn't let him
Tbh basically every mcu character got nerf, including super heros and villians. Im sure the comic fans would still say the 1st movie was a nerfed version of hulk true power
Here’s my rewrite: in the fight against Hulkbuster, Hulk would obliterate the Hulkbuster and almost kill Tony Stark. Hulk realizes the destruction he did so he powers down to banner and surrenders to the government.
At the end of the film, the heroes of earth sends Hulk to outer space believing his to dangerous for planet earth.
also in avengers 1, for the chase scene, replace Black widow with Betty Ross. They literally got her dad in civil war. Hulk would feel bad for harming Betty so he would want to redeem himself by helping the Avengers stop Loki and the Chitauri invasion.
Bruce would be with Betty.
Natasha would be with Bucky.
Next, let’s say that Disney gives millions dollars to universal and does a full on Planet Hulk movie. Maybe this film is a prequel and the film happens in Phase 4. Planet Sakar, The Red King is the main villain, Korg and Meik are Hulk’s friends who way more serious characters, Caiera is introduced, Hulk’s world wide revolution, Silver surfer could appear because Disney would have the rights of FF and X-Men in 2018 and etc.
No Taikia waiti, No Thor, No stupid jokes.
In infinity war, Hulk would go to earth to warn the avengers about Thanos. He helps iron man and Dr. Strange fight Cull Obsidian and Ebody Maw. He then goes the Battle of wakanda and assist the rest of the Avengers. He would fight Cull Obsidian again while also be fighting off outriders.
He’s able to defeat Cull Obsidian by chucking him to the force filed but because he was too busy with Cull, he isn’t with the rest of the Avengers and Thanos just like in the film wins by stealing the mind stolen and snapping his fingers.
Finally, in endgame Hulk makes amends with his fellow avengers, evolves into the world breaker and give Thanos a fight for his life. Ebony Maw sees Thanos losing to Hulk so before Hulk could land the final blow, Maw teleports Hulk into outer space on a different planet.
Thanos is way more bloodied and beaten up in this version because of the Hulk and just like in the original, Iron Man snaps his fingers and kills Thanos.
Hulk would be at Tony’s funeral and says goodbye to his friends as he goes back to planet Sakaar and to his family.
I'm thinking RDJ, got rufulo the hulk gig. Since they were friends. I don't think RDJ wanted to work with Norton. 😂.
IH show, Avengers Emh, World War Hulk movie, and Hulk vs are the best depictions of Hulk so far imo. The 2004 movie (I think when it came out) wasn't great back then but in rewatching it hits so much better in diving into both characters. The movie with Edward Norton felt like a Saturday morning cartoon in movie form which I enjoyed. As you said we feel the presence of the Hulk in that movie and I loved when he went off on Abomination. So far right now don't care for Hulk anymore until he has the moment like in EMH where he takes over permanently. They unfortunately don't have the rights to Hulk because we need a Hulk movie to redeem him. I want to see him fight Abomination again, Red Hulk, Leader etc. Just give us a proper Hulk eventually. Banner has had enough development.
they do this with all male heroes, superheroes and villains. Deconstruct and depower them and make them into comic relief to elevate their female characters.
It's truly pathetic.
what
The "gets stronger the more he gets angry" idea reminds me of an old, but intriguing question; _"Who would win, the Hulk or the Hulk's weight in bees?"_
I agree, It makes me sad af ill never see the devil hulk/immortal hulk on big screen. I want the green door storyline so bad i can taste it.
In the comics hulk was like one of the strongest characters, stronger than thanos, and on the same level as dormamu and other dimentional conquerers
I think the thanos fight makes sense, thanos being a much better fighter and close to the level of strength, hitting pressure points would dismantle hulk before he got too strong. Tony was also spraying hulk with what I would assume was something to calm him down the whole fight so it's feasible. The hulk we saw in endgame and she hulk was horrible though
That's not how hitting pressure points works. When you hit someone's pressure point, you're not paralyzing them or making them weaker -- you're hitting a bundle of nerves that hurts. A lot. Thanos hitting those points on Hulk wouldn't 'dismantle' him, it would hurt him, which would piss him off, which would make him stronger, and he'd just power through the pain -- assuming the pain was even worth noticing at all, considering he's been shot with rockets and hit with Thor's hammer without slowing down -- both of which, pretty sure, would hurt more than getting punched in the wrong spot.
Hulk buster's kinda fair, though. While I don't think spraying Hulk with gas to calm him down should work, it's still more believable than Iron Man just beating the shit out of Hulk with SCIENCE!
@atlasgraham154 I think the meat of the argument was that - assuming Thanos is equal in strength to base-level Hulk - his win makes sense because he actually knows how to fight, while Hulk is a brute who relies on overwhelming force in every other match-up.
Thanos was able to use superior skill and experience to hurt, confuse, and discombobulate Hulk quicker than Hulk could fill his rage-meter. That's why he won.
Also, I agree with the Hulkbuster thing. Even with sleepy gas, if Tony wasn't constantly replacing the parts Hulk was tearing off, the fight would be over in the first minute.
Jessus Savage Hulk is not the only incarnation. He was main Marvel Hulk for over 10 years. Now we had Professor Hulk. And Red Hulk. Would love to see Mr. Fixit There are dozens of versions of Hulk so stop complaining that you want Savage back 😂
Thanos happened. It all went downhill from there. Now Hulk do downward dog pose.
Thanos regularly smacked hulk around in the comics all the time too
To be fair, Hulk-buster didn't beat Hulk. Hulk beat Hulk by looking at what he'd done to innocent people
Ed Norton Hulk came the closest. I want to see a few solo Hulk movies where he does some moves from the underrated game "Hulk: Ultimate Destruction".
Just unleash the beast.
Norton captured Bruce’s pain. He had to distant himself to keep anyone from being hurt. He can’t even have sex with betty because he would turn.
That beatdown by Iron Man alone was a joke. It does complete injustice to the Hulk's character. I love Iron Man too, but that doesn’t mean Tony Stark should be made stronger than the Hulk. In a one-on-one combat, there is no comparison between them at all.
The Incredible Hulk is not supposed to fear anything, especially a fight.
I kinda always thought that hulk became weaker over time because he is always more and more self-aware and in touch with Bruce Banner, until they finally become one. That is why by the time he has to fight Thanos he is completely outpowered by him because he is now aware of the situation and the people around him, he is not the incontrollable beast he used to be anymore
Years ago, Stan Lee said in many interviews (for Spider-Man) Some heroes works best alone. Hulk is one of them. I really want to see Hulk solo R-rated serious tone disaster movie. The original Marvel (before sold to Disney) even said Hulk not a superhero. He can easily manipulate or turn into a villain. That kind of Hulk I wanna see. The classic Hulk.
If it wasn't for Norton's bs, he would have stayed over Buffalo
Marvel or rather Disney turned both Hulk and Thor into clowns.... Hulk is just a big green wimp now and Thor might aswell just be a stand up comedian or work in a circus.... I hate what they did to those characters.... I 1000% agree with your opinion. I was a fan of the MCU but after Avengers Endgame all went to shit. Besides spiderman 3 and Deadpool 3 (wich isn't it pure MCU if i'm not wrong) wich were pretty good the MCU became a joke after endgame. And now the are making movies and shows about characters that aren't rly that interesting or that most people don't even know. They also brought too much woke into the MCU. Disney taking over really didn't do much justice to the MCU. Oh well, Marvel is digging its own grave anyway. Time to move on.
Mark Ruffalo scared of being a man = Hulk being scared of being a Hulk.
The MCU hates hulk for no reason at all so frustrating I can't even bro
The hulk took his final form as the left wing drip mark ruffallo.
The actor should just act and keep his disgusting personal opinions to himself
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One of the most insane things was that in Avengers 1 he takes a clean shot to the jaw with Thors hammer and gets right back up. In Infinity War, Thanos is literally just jabbing him and then he lifts him over his head and drops him and he's done for.
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. thank you
The worst thing about Infinity War is that the movie has the perfect plot beats to have had the Hulk as more of a real player. Bruce should've been forced to travel back to earth as part of Thanos' plan to remove him as a threat. Thanos literally stays away from earth the entire movie, him keeping Hulk away from them was right there ready to be set up as a plot device. Not to mention Bruce would be in a situation where he wants to help the team as much as possible so he's trying to avoid getting into another fight that'll turn him into the hulk despite how desperate the situation is.
This man spitting nothing but facts
I hate the way Hulk is in Endgame. It was a piece of sh*t decision to change him. He got weaker throughout the Avengers movies.
Hes ruined. No personality, no depth, no flaw, no strength
Amen to this video. How often I explained this to my friends
I agree with most of what you said but the best movie Hulk was in the bad movie Hulk, This Hulk actually grew as he got angrier and that desert part of the movie with his jumping ability, Speed and Power was a masterpiece
Hulk tasseled with Iron Man but got a hiding from Thanos!
You nailed it...
Ugh, also, Banner helped Stark design the Hulkbuster, so it stands to reason that it would have the necessary counter measures against Hulk
The hulk should be a horror movie.
He RIPS PEOPLE IN HALF.
He's literally EATEN people.
He STEPS on people like bigs. And he doesn't differentiate good people from bad people at times.
Hulk haunts Dr. Banner's dreams and causes him to have hallucinations while awake.
Gamma radiation prevents Banner from finding love or having physical intimacy. He's literally poisonous and radioactive.
The US gov is in dilemma about whether to kill him, imprison him, capture him for use/study or just ignore him and hope he doesn't destroy anything.
Hulk is a walking natural disaster.
Marvel never truly exploring this side of him is a massive loss for fans.
I always thought it was weird how easily Thanos beat Hulk. That really bugged me because I always thought that the more angry Hulk gets the stronger he is. Thanos beat Hulk in like one minute.
Marvel can't make a Hulk solo movie because Universal owns the Hulk movie rights.
When Hulk backed down from another round with Thanos in the MCU, that's when I lost respect for the character.
The hulkbuster didn’t beat the hulk. The Hulk had calmed down for a second and I iron man took advantage of it.
I don't remember hulk loosing to iron man, he kind of just gave up and dropped hulk some where.
Regarding the Hulk looes against Thanos. When I saw this the First time my theory was: this IS Not Hulk this IS Loki. IT would have Made a lot more sende and I stand by that.
The other Scene where Banners soul gets thrown Out of the Hulk Body Shows that "Hulk" IS dead. There are multiple Stories where Banner IS gone and Hulk IS Just a raging Monster.
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Look at how they massacred my boy...