Why Edward Norton Was The BEST MCU Hulk | Video Essay |
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2022
- Today, I reflect on Edward Norton's time in the MCU and explain why he's a far better Hulk than Mark Ruffalo. This character has been utterly embarrassing over the past few years, so let's discuss when he was actually good........ #hulk #shehulk #worldwarhulk #secretwars #wakandaforever #edwardnorton #markruffalo #mcu
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The reason why Edward Norton left the MCU because he wanted to explore Hulk and Bruce banner's character in detail and wanted to take the character in a serious direction but MCU rejected that.
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Norton wouldn't have let The Hulk become a bad joke.
The Incredible Hulk 2008 is very underrated
Ed Norton for the win all day. The Hulk is a character who is always struggling. Seeing him hassle for a pair of stretchy pants on the street and waking up dirty and lost is 100% Hulk. Having him even set foot on American soil, let alone New York to attend n after party without Ross breathing down his neck is not Hulk. In fact, the very thought of it makes me…hungry. And you wouldn’t like me when I’m hungry.
100% agree with your take on this. Edward Nortons Hulk is so under-rated. I recently watched it again. The whole time, I was asking myself "why did they move away from this". Hulk was legit scary.
Norton was the truer version of the Hulk, an uncontrollable monster of pure rage.
Ruffalo's was like a giant, dumb baby.
MCU ruined the character.
I wholly agree with your take here! 💯
Norton didn't give shit when it came to rage. ERIC did. You believed it when he cried or growled. Norton just did the "green eyes" and "oh no I can't stop it" face.
Edward Norton hit the comic book Banner perfectly.
This current hulk, makes me angry.
I'm trying to contain myself because I tend to rant on this topic. You're 100% correct. There was so much subtle storytelling and world building with this movie, it doesn't deserve to be where it is on the MCU tier list and Norton knocked it out of the park. He knew exactly where he was going with this character.
One of the MCU's biggest casualties IMO
The Incredible Hulk of 2008 is such a great and underrated movie.
he went from the incredible hulk to the incredible joke
I agree 💯
1 Edward Norton
2 Mark Ruffalo
3 Eric Bana
Ed Norton is the best Hulk hands down 😊
Edward's Hulk was always my favorite. Massive and SAVAGE.
MCU ruined the Hulk especially with making Planet Hulk into a joke movie.
I've always Been a fan of the 2008 Hulk & never changed
Edward Norton act like a normal guy because scientis ARE normal people and not some steriotipical nerd guy that is clearly a scientist, is that simple.
I think he means wanting ed's bruce to show off his more scientist side more
@@mekiherring2088 Would it help if he wore glasses, a white lab coat and pocket protector? Would that make him enough of a scientist for you? Not all scientists are like that. I mean, Jeff Goldblum has always played an incredible scientist, so maybe they should have gotten Goldblum to play the part if you think Norton was a bad choice?
@@mekiherring2088but most of his scientific research goes toward trying to cure himself of the hulk which we saw but in the movie he’s trying spiritual meditation indicating he’s running out of scientific options hence he tries to kill himself
I actually thought Edward Norton was the better version of the movie
i don't really read comics, but ed norton made me fall in love with hulk
And rural made it seem like you are watching a strongman Shrek
Banner is a haunted man and Norton played that to the T.
He also reminded me a lot of Bill Bixby's performance.
Finally someone else gets it. The Incredible Hulk was the best and helped established the MCU.
The 2003 Hulk movie was way ahead of it’s time. Hulk was not just a misunderstood guy with anger issues but a physical manifestation of his trauma. The acting, the story, the effects and transitions *chefs kiss.
2003? That one...is...just awful. It had Banner on the run from the government...and that is pretty much *everything* it has I common with the comics.
Absolutely everything else is like the world's most underwhelming acid trip.
@@brendonw456 thats the ONLY thing it had in common with the comics?
@@NoHandlzz Oh yeah.
Him dealing with the turmoil caused by his destructive side? Gone. The people who are hurt by Hulk are all actively trying to wrong and harm him.
Isolation? Well this version of Bruce has like...a day of that, so there isn't anything to explore.
Hulk himself barely even appears.
The mutated dogs. Omfg the dogs...
His dad's horribly mutilated backstory.
Hulk fighting a freaking cloud. Before "Old man yells at clouds", we had "Hulk smashes clouds"
I guess...Betty was okay? Idk, this movie fell into obscurity for good reason, and I haven't voluntarily turned on that hot garbage in ages.
@@brendonw456it bothers me that people praise the 2008 Hulk movie as if it was actually that good if I remember correctly the 2008 movie was almost all Hulk being chased by the army anyway, plus the Hulk was much less strong than the 2003 version, plus the background of traumas and the message of fighting against them is much better than Hulk beating up a version of the abomination that came out in the last moments of the movie. plus the 2008 version was a bait in its trailers because we all thought it was a continuation of the 2003 one.
I really like Edward Norton's portrayal of Bruce Banner and the Hulk. He shows his inner conflict within himself like Jekyll and Hyde.
I never once liked ruffalo hulk not even in avengers, norton hulk was far superior in every way
Yeah he felt like a pussy with no aura to him and when I say aura I say like a presence
THANK YOU! Finally, somebody recognizes the greatness of the 2008 Incredible Hulk was it the greatest movie? No! But to me, this one is a lot closer to the Bruce Banner/Hulk than any of Mark Ruffalo‘s appearances and I do agree his best one was in the first avengers film!
In all honesty, Nortons version is enjoyable for me because I was a child when the late Bill Bixby was on TV with his Incredible Hulk along with Luke Ferrigno that’s another reason I’m biased towards Norton film because it felt like almost a tribute to that show!
the thing I loved the most about norton hulk is one small dialogue hulk said at the begening fight scene ( leave me alone ) that means he is not just a monster who wants to fight and rage, he is just protecting himself.
I have been saying this for years!! Mark is watered down Hulk and Edward is the Hulk we deserve.
The last time we saw the real Hulk was in Age of Ultron, then Disney was to blame for hiring a comedy director to kill him.
Norton was absolutely badass as the Hulk. And, Norton's Hulk was actually TERRIFYING in that 1st scene. The build-up to the first transformation was brilliant!!
Yeah. The first time I say Norton's Hulk rage out all I could think was "Holy crap, that's terrifying!"
Watching Ruffalo's Hulk rage out, was like, "Hey, that's pretty cool, right?"
Ed Nortons Hulk and the film he was in are severly slept on, its criminal. Not only is that movie pretty dang good, but Norton was actually clearly passionate about the serious nuances of Hulk as an allegory for both Prometheus and Jekyll/Hyde
Edward Norton is the best Bruce Banner.
Yes he is. He is the best hulk too
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Marvel made me hate the Hulk. Used to be my favorite superhero even above batman.
Edward Norton made hulk my 2nd favorite hero (no one can top spidey as my no.1 lol)
I agreed, i miss Norton hulk 😢
Another thing The Incredible Hulk got right that the rest of the MCU didn’t is making Hulk and Banner visually distinct. The MCU Hulk is just Mark Ruffalo but big and green. Norton’s Hulk actually looked monstrous and far from what a normal human would look like.
I always thought Mark Ruffalo was a serious downgrade from Edward Norton. Norton is one of the greatest actors of our generation, and really, one of the best actors of all time. He excels at dual roles where he switches personality (Primal Fear, American History X, Fight Club etc.), whereas Ruffalo is basically just a bum who can't act. So Norton's casting as Bruce Banner was perfect. Norton took the character of Bruce Banner seriously, and his Hulk is a great film (box office performance does not correlate with quality), and Norton's Hulk pays homage and respect to the Bixby/Ferrigno TV show.
Thank you! We finally have a mature discussion on the best Hulk adaptation.
To me norton captured the jekyll&hyde of banner&hulk and hulk has always been that to me, the marvel jekyll and hyde
Never gonna forgive them for giving away arguably the gretaest Hulk story to Thor.
I preferred Edward Norton the best, because he's the most savage Hulk of all than Mark Ruffalo.
I absolutely agree with every point in this Video we went from The Incredible Hulk to the incredible joke 😢
Ed Norton was perfect period
I've been saying this since the beginning! Edward Nortons Hulk movie is the best! Glad to see you and all the other Marc Ruffulo fan boys finally come around to reality!
I fuckin' agree edward norton is the best hulk
Mark's hulk was cool but later became a joke.
I love Ed Norton Hulk, his movie is great and unfairly underrated.
Is Betty ever mentioned in the sequels?
The isolation Bruce suffers and his separation from Betty is what made Norton Hulk/Banner compelling.
Plus, I do not ship Bruce with Natasha.
@theashwoodfaerie Good to know she will return.
Norton was far better than what we got
To be fair, the Norton movie did end with him gaining some control so that checks out
I prefer the 08 hulk
We didn’t deserve The Incredible Hulk movie.
Glad to see Nortons hulk getting some love! I remember being obsessed with this movie growing up
For me the best Banner was always between Norton and _Bana._ Ruffalo did pretty good in the Helicarrier scene and in India, but Bruce Banner being a scientist is just half of the equation. The other half is that he's a timid wimp who is thinner and frail. He is not a jokester liker Tony Stark or Peter Parker, he is a man on the run doing everything he can to survive and build a happy and peaceful life despite the odds being overwhelmingly against him.
At last, some recognition for the Incredible Hulk movie. It's a really good dark and tragic movie, and Ed not only portrays an original heroic figure (his heroism comes from his sense of sacrifice, of responsability, boldness and cleverness), but he also had his say on the screenplay to make it less cartoonish and childish, to make a great adult genre movie.
Ruffalo's line "I'm always angry"in Avengers doesn't bother me though. I always felt that it means that Bruce can hulk out when he wants (and then, if he let him come out, he controls him a bit) but not that he can't transform when he doesn't want to anymore.
Sure, his portrayal comes to be less and less horrific and scary after each new film, and that's why Incredible Hulk got him at his best, most thrilling moments, but it's not a problem, it shows that Bruce get further in his quest for self-control. It's not the principle that is bad, it's the execution (the fact that his quest is poorly narrated)
Edward Norton hulk is better than mcu Ruffalo
Eric Bana. Seriously, the 2003 movie includes Banner's abusive childhood - something the later Hulks lack, that tragic element that precedes the advent of the Hulk. It is an important element to the character, because it is why Savage Hulk is the way he is.
The main problem with that movie was the pacing - but its rendition of Hulk was pretty spot on.
I agree 100%, Norton is my favorite Hulk, but looking at how MCU has ruined the Hulk (and Thor!) over time, maybe it was good that Edward Norton was spared that same humiliation (instead, ruffalo will take most of it).
Edward Norton Hulk should've joined the Avengers
Sometimes I forget that Ed Norton's Hulk and Mark's Hulk are the same version of the character. They feel like 2 completely different adaptations of the character. The MCU even treats them like that sometimes. They way Hulk and Bruce Banner are portrayed in Ed Norton's film is so much better in my opinion.
I might be in the minority here but I loved the 2003 HULK, I put that ahead of Mark Ruffalo’s hulk but no hulk tops Edward Norton’s hulk. 2003 Hulk literally felt like we were literally watching a comic book movie it was amazing and still holds up to this day.
The Incredible Hulk is Actually when you think about it is One of The Best Marvel Movies
That's because they approached the characters with respect rather than turning them into a bunch of dumb fuck quip machines for the sake of appealing to the lowest common denominator
Bit ranty but I miss when Marvel actually made good movies like Spiderman 2, the Thomas Jane Punisher and Howard the Duck (ducks as tomatoes and cabbages are thrown at me for the last one)
Ed Norton respected the character completely. That was the rub with the control freaks at Marvel
Norton hulk was the best Hulk.
I always thought that the Ed Norton Hulk movie was a lot better and a lot closer to the old TV show Hulk with Lou Ferrigno, it was just a lot better because like being werewolf it seemed it was almost an oh my God moment that he had to fight off, trying to turn into the Hulk or try to find a safe place and he was always on the run going to small towns and doing odd work this made the Hulk story around him on top of him a whole other facet where Mark Garofalo, which to me really doesn’t even look like the David Banner which I grew up with in the old Hulk TV show Ed Norton looks closer More true to the Hulk. Also, it’s a lot of what you said in this clip.
Although there were reported behind-the-scenes tensions between Marvel and Edward Norton, I STILL believe that he was the best on-screen Bruce Banner/Hulk. No disrespect to Mark Ruffalo. He is a very good actor. However, I did not truly see him as Bruce Banner. His version of the Hulk was more like a larger, green version of Ruffalo and NOT the Hulk. Edward Norton brought out the fear, isolation, and inner turmoil of Bruce Banner, as well as the comic book Hulk IE: "Hulk smash!" I am sorry that Mr. Norton did not remain with the MCU. However, he and Marvel had to make the choices that they believed were respectively right for them.
Edward Norton best HULK to this day, not a joke character that RUffalo plays. Ah yes, Leader somehow now fights vs Falcon.
Ed Norton was the best Banner/ Hulk.🤘🤘
This, and a few other roles, is why Edward Norton will always be one of my favorite actors. The guy knows how to act, he knows how to sell emotion and convey that through the story he is given, and it's a crime to me that his role in this movie isn't talked about more. Hell, him as an actor isn't talked about more than he should be. He was the perfect choice for Hulk then, and I'd be happy to see him in another. I doubt he will, but it'd be cool to see him return.
Norton's was Visceral. Mark's was Comical.
Mark rufalo is the reason hulk is no longer one of the top three most popular characters who happens to be my childhood rolemodel.
Best analysis ive seen on the hulk in a while the mcu has sucked for years to me after infinity war I stopped caring incredible hulk and the first iron man were one of the best mcu movies and I dont care what anyone else says
I wish this hulk movie had potential to grow into a series like the spider man series (with tobey McGuire). I saw similar vibes in the tone of nortons hulk with McGuire’s spider man. The whole point of a superhero movie is the tone and personality of the main character . 2008 hulk was more believable and could have been expanded upon.
Exactly. Some say Ed wanted to do something like that and explore Hulk and Bruce properly but MCU didn't let him.
Edward Norton is the best in my opinion.
I seriously can't understand, why people hate norton hulk that time???
I miss the old hulk
The downfall of Hulk in not Mark Ruffalo's fault, it is Marvel's. He has no control over the plot or the character development.
2008 hulk is just perfect!!!!!
It is my dream to direct a Hulk movie.
Official or not, I’d love to have a Hulk that has a massive impact on anyone or any place he goes.
A timid man turned beast that is actually scary to see.
Incredible Hulk was the best Hulk ever...
Combine the 03 and 08 Hulk movies and you have a perfect hulk movie. Bana and Norton both had their faults but they atleast felt like an actual attempt at Hulk.. whereas Ruffalo is completely unrecognizable as the character and always was (for the most part).
Size, strength, reflexes, healing factor, running speed, jumping height, & jumping distance of 2003 Hulk combined with the anger, aggression, fighting style, physical appearance, & overall design of 2008 Hulk. Combine all that with Hulk's true power in Avengers Assemble & Hulk's moveset in The Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction & you make the perfect version of Hulk.
@@forrestannis909Fuck no 2008 Hulk is the worst looking Hulk ever designed.
i totally agreed with you . Edward Norton will always be The best Hulk of all time. it's like Tobey Maguire as Spidey. old is good, better. Old is Gold.
I have always thought this. I was so mad when they switched to Mark Ruffalo
I totally agree. Norton is and will always be my Favorite Hulk!! Although I watched The Avengers first I didn't know about The Incredible Hulk but when I watched it for the first time I realised that Norton is way better than Mark Buffalo
Yea Edward Norton was the best Hulk, they basically made him a joke with Mark Ruffalo, they should've stayed with the fact the avengers could never control him they had to aim him and hope for the best at their overpowered enimies. They always had to track him down to find him because he always ended up on the other side of the world. They also made him weaker cause he could've destroyed Thanos in the beginning and forced him to use the power stone. His arm shouldve have been messed up beciase his healing factor is stronger than Deadpool. He learns as he fights and is a threat to the plant itself, yet they took all that away. The Hulk now is just a mockery
I HAVE PREACHED THIS EVER SINCE I WAS FUCKING BORN
THIS IS THE BEST HULK
While I think Ang Lee's 2003 Hulk was the best film out of all of them, one thing I did like about 2008 Hulk is that aside from using the same method for how the Hulk was created in the original TV show is that they paid homage to the late Bill Bixby by giving him a brief cameo in a short scene from "The Courtship Of Eddie's Father."
Given the type of man Bill reportedly was, that he was a very kind and gracious man, I am glad the film makers for the 2008 version made a point to do what they did.
been saying this since avengers 1 but ed norton will always be my goat and the best LA hulk
Edward Norton is still my favorite rendition of Bruce Banner/hulk. I hated his re-casting he was a very seclusive serious scientist that wanted to get his curse under control, and he unleashed it only when he absolutely had to.
2008 gang
OMG yes. I love the idea of Bruce Banner on the run. When Nick fury recruited him, we couldn’t even get a scene of him hesitating of Nick fury like wiping his legal slate clean. Norton, as Bruce Banner is basically like you’re replacing the hulk with an uncontrollable werewolf transformation. And I love that movie. I want an else world movie where we get Edward Norton as Bruce Banner again. The hulk is more of a monster than a hero.
everything that was said in this video is on spot.. they REALLY ruined hulk & every character that has to do with him. Thank you for making this 🙏
Ed Norton's hulk is my favourite because ut reminded me of bill bixbys banner/hulk 'problem' more the scientific aura I love about Norton's banner. And hes a brilliant actor 👍🏻
I agree! Edward Norton was the best Hulk!
Norton hulk and tobey spidey would be fire to see in the new Deadpool movie
to be fair he was on the run. he didnt have time to be a scientist
I agree Edward is the better Hulk and to me he is the better Bruce as well. I’m so mad they have turned my favorite superhero as a kid to this joke..
He is the best banner too. His body is on point than ruffalo.
I actually thought Ed did a decent job as Bruce, he's way more convincing in the look and vibe of the character than Ruffalo who in my opinion doesn't fit at all and was terrible but neither of them are the ideal version to me, Eric Bana's Bruce and Hulk was how I always imagined the character to be, Bana's looks and appearance, his portrayal of an emotionally-detached moody, anti-social man with a haunting past and his Hulk looks the most innocent but the most badass in character like Frankenstein's creation, Ang Lee's movie is also the only one where I feel did it the best as a character-driven story and the right tone and atmosphere
edward norton was the best hulk and bruce banner imho.
This mcu hulk didn’t feel like an avenger level threat. how will he even feel like a world war hulk? mcu clowned him real bad.
finally seeing Norton get some love
Ed portrays Bruce great in this movie BECAUSE of where Bruce Banner is in his life, but overall I think Mark plays Bruce better, the quiet timid nerdy guy Bruce normally is, I’m not getting into the “smart hulk” problem the MCU did bc that literally RUINS everything about the MCU Bruce Banner and Hulk
Personally i feel Mark Rufallo does good job being Bruce Banne the problem is the writting that made him so goofy and not being the badass Hulk used to be kinda suck because i feel he does good is job but the bad writtinh is all over our faces but i agree that Edward Norton is the best Hulk.
edward norton Hulk - GOAT
Nortons Hulk is the best ever Hulk, Marks Bana at the start of MCU is awesome but later on is a joke. I havent seen a proper Bana n hulk together yet.