Two Of The SMALLEST 4 Cylinder Engines I've Ever Worked On!
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Today we're working on a couple of Continental N62 engines. These engines both came out of Massey-Harris Pony tractors, although this same engine was used in Allis Chalmers G tractors and other applications as well. In this video we do the teardown and cleaning, and bore & hone the cylinders as well as grind the flywheels.
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Your videos are well made and entertaining, I don't understand why you don't have more subscribed views/subscribers.
Love your channel and the attention you give to detail. I'm a retired engineer. Back in the 1980's, I ran a high-performance, motorcycle road racing engine building business in New England (Bennett Engine Dynamics). Your channel takes me back and conjures great memories from back in the day. I look forward to every new episode you produce. Thank you! 👍👍👍
That's awesome! Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Those “Pony Motors” were used for Air Conditioning Systems on some Buses in the 50’s and in Forklifts in the late 40’s through the 50’s. On Clark Forklifts at least. Worked on many of those Forklifts from 1979-1990. Great Video as always! 👍🏽👍🏽😉
These little Continental engines were excellent for their intended use. Certainly not a powerhouse, but very dependable and easy to work on.
I was amused that I could actually lift a short block out of a forklift by myself.
I worked in a shop with about 35 Clark and Allis Chalmers forklifts. The operators were hard on the equipment, but the engines were tough as nails.
Great channel. I worked for a Massey Ferguson dealer in the 70's after my military duty. Watching you work on the Continentals and Perkins bring back a lot of memories. Daisy is sweet.
I worked along side my farther on boats and then in trucks (and a few other places), I only wish I had video of half of our time together. This channel is a blessing im not sure you will ever understand but I envy you.
I love these old engine rebuilds. Cleaning up the cookies, is my kind of cleaning. Hello to Daisy, Hopefully she sampled a cookie to make sure they were fit to eat.
Great work guys!
I just love those videos, great narration. Keep 'em coming.
wow...
you stamp invoice #'s on blocks...pretty cool
It's time for Dad to take a vacation, Hawaii, Vegas, time to get out of the shop.
But who would clean up the cookies 😂😂
Cleaning guy is the man of focus, commitment & sheer will
He will outlive us all and someday be promoted as a machinist too
You go, Cleaning Guy! Who needs years of schooling, it's just like cooking. If you spend enough time in the dish pit, you might just wind up on the line and get to wear one of those stupid little hats.
Really looking forward to additional videos on these engines. I’ve been an auto mechanic since the 1990’s, after having some bad experiences at various machine shops over the years I really respect the discipline you and your dad have with your craft, I’ve learned a lot to !
I always like how the cylinders look after a fresh bore and hone. Something special about it.
When my parents moved to Raleigh 20 years ago there was a nearby remnant of a farm where the old, retired farmer still had a couple acres and did a large garden. He did all of his field work with a MH Pony.
On my father's dairy farm we had all Allis Chalmers, mostly 100 series (170, 175 & 180) with a D17 and a WD-45, but we also had a little CA wide front mostly for garden cultivating and hilling potatoes (had two belly mounted row units the took two hillers or four sweep cultivators each) and a rear to bar mount set of 3x3 spring tine cultivators to get between the rows (mounted oddly - used the snap coupler lift arms but the rest of the mounting was two steel bar linkages to clevises molded into the rear axle castings.) It had a 2.1L and about twice the HP of the Pony.
Good work as always!
It takes skill to operate a manual honing machine like you and your father do, and that's only accomplished through practice, knowledge, and a keen interest. Yes an automated machine will do the job as well, typically faster, and with a less practiced operator, but that doesn't make older machines and old school operators obsolete!
Thank you! And absolutely! It can be frustrating to run a manual machine but with patience it can produce a great finished product as well!
These are the steps that make or break a rebuild.
The attention to detail in machine work is what makes the magic if you ask me.
Unreal how far that rust when into the cylinder
I appreciate your giving us the rotating speed of each cutting tool as I often wonder what speed is best when I’m using cutting tools. I also appreciate the insight you offer on the honing process, as I have had more questions about that machine than any other machine in your shop. Thank you. One of your best videos yet for technical info for us lay persons.
Looks like your shop supervisor decided to lay around while you guys were working on the job!
That's one of the perks of being the boss.
The N62 is a neat engine for sure, the only 4 cylinder I have ever seen with 2 main bearings! Also If I remember correctly when I rebuilt mine, the piston and rod has to come out of the bottom of the block due to the big end of the rod being larger than the cylinder bore. I had the crank in already when I figured that one out lol.
afaik the Danish Nimbus motorcycles from the early 1900's also had two main bearings.
Really like the way you keep your workshop, machines, tools and blocks etc super clean. Clients must really appreciate the final product. I have worked in engineering workshop that were a mess and it was never fun to work there. Really good work.
I’m glad to see other people using those short bread cookie tins for small parts storage. Coolest containers
Don't have a clue about the sort of engineering you do, I'm a retired pilot, but I get a lot of enjoyment watching you guys doing your thing, from down under in Australia. Cheers.
2 main bearings! I guess the power output is such that the crank is robust enough to stand up to that
Ahh Massey Harris. A man after my heart.
This is the kind of work I would have loved to get into. Maybe when I retire I can learn machining for pleasure.
Can't wait to hear these engines purr again!
Continental was a popular industrial engine, with many many applications, they were known for dependability, and a long life , Most used in fork lifts were propane fueled that gave a 30 year life span or more
I love watching your videos! They always get me fired up to rebuild engines. There's just something super satisfying about taking an engine that doesn't run, or doesn't run well, and giving it new life. Thanks for sharing the process and explaining everything very well! Cheers
Love watching you guys keep the older engines going. Thankyou.
More please!
Fast 12 min and great editing so I didn't nod off.
Those are really cute. I think a tractor that size would have also done well with a Wisconsin THD. Have you ever worked with those?
I have a THD.. cant wait to get her tuned and running.
@@paulg444 I had one on a Winco generator. 5 kW at 1800 RPM. It was very heavy for 5 kW, but it was standby for the house and lived on a small concrete pad so it mattered little.
I just scraped one of these. Would have been glad to see it go to good use.
I found you guys about a month ago. Love watching these vids. Great quality work breathing new life into these machines.
Looking forward to the decking and valve work!
Should be out within a couple of weeks!
Another great episode! Looking forward to seeing the progress and completion of these two motors.
Thank you!
GM Truck and Coach used this very model as an AC compressor engine driving an Ingersol-Rand oilless compressor from the late '30s until 1954 in their parlor coachs for Greyhound and others. Early in '54, needing more capacity, they switched to a Trane compressor driven by a Waukesha pony motor, giving a capacity of slightly more then 5 tons. Those little Connies were tough little engines.
Been bouncing around an idea in my head for surface hardening cylinders to extend wear life. Doesn't look like I'm ever going to get around to it so I may as well pass the idea along to you, roller piening using a roller bearing and either either advancing the diameter mechanically or using centripetal force or a spring to maintain pressure against the cylinder wall. I've tossed enough at you to get the idea and will let you play with it now. Would love to see what comes of it.
Would love to see these engines with some performance mods and applied to a retro looking race car of some sort.
You guys should do a video on a w Chevy engine, a 348 or 409.
Looks like a straight forward rebuild finally. No oddities so far.👍
Very cool stuff...definitely can't wait to see the completed engines!
Keep em coming!!!!
Hi I just learned about your channel from a reels video on Facebook. I really like machine work. When it comes to motor machining like you,and your dad are doing. It makes me want to see and hear them running.
Another great episode guys! Your attention to detail is wonderful. The cleaning guy should be proud of his pupil, and that he can teach also!
Love watching you guys do great work.
Your shop has amazing equipment with operators who have lots of experience to produce quality work. You two make a great team and the "Cleaning Guy" does great work on cookies too. Your voice overs are VERY well done.
Absoutely, cookies aint gonna clean themselves!
Thank you!
The AC model G had a whopping 10hp
Those are adorable little engines, like a Universal Atomic 4.
Amazing that oversize pistons are available.
You guys do some mighty fine work. Thanks for these great videos.
Have repaired a few in my career N-62contintal eng were used in Towmotor and Clark forklifts. Used to remove out in field with spark plug chain and piece of pipe. Snapped crankshaft was common
My Yamaha fz1 has 4cyl but only 1 L. From a quick search, apparently this is a 1.2 L. So my bike engine is an even smaller 4 cyl, but i bet it has a much shorter stroke vs this tractor engine. Tractors need tq, not 12k rpm, although it would be funny to swap both of them. Tractor would rip, and the bike could tow a heavy trailer. Lol
You do have a great camera. These old eyes can tell the difference between the honing stones.
Also note, there was an aluminum block / head with a water pump. These were used on military generators designed to be air dropped.
Jim, please don't ruin the channel with sponsored content. ♥
Once they start eating the cookie, it's only a short step before they start asking for a day off. Best release him Now.😂
Interesting process for sure . Thanks for sharing . Looking forward to the follow up!
Hi just wanted to ask if you clean up some of the oil passages so oil flows better back down to the pan ?
Interesting to watch the Milling and Honing machines work.
when you indicate the cylinder bore ,bore it out and move to the next cylinder, are the center to center close to numbers close to the factory numbers ? if not do you ever try to change you number to compensate for the difference ? I know the cores in the castings can shift, just wondered how you and the cleaning guy handle it.
Love the videos. Look forward to each new one! Great Work, Great Videos!
I enjoy watching your videos, I have a lot of respect for the attention to detail. Thanks
I started watching you guys about 6 months ago and you have grown exponentially and it’s so cool to see!!!
I know it’s not how this job works, but I would love to see videos of the engines reinstalled and running after the machining process. As always, enjoy your videos!
That's always a satisfying moment, after getting something back from the machine shop, assembling, installing, and that first startup is stressful and weight lifting both lol
I like to spray my blocks with wd40 as soon as I get them out of the washer. Makes em smell good too. 😃
Thanks for sharing 👍
Loved your commercial. Thats a man who loves his parents and wife.
"worked like a dog" LOL, Daisy
Yall do great work
I thought my Y112 in my Towmotor forklift was small! This one is half the size. Mine was a mosquito fogger before I honed and re-ringed it. Also put new bearings in. It runs nice now, and no more smoke. (Obviously this method would be better)
Nicely done! I look forward to the next steps.
With all of the rust and pitting, how do you decide that the cutter head is centered in the cylinder?
Love your guys videos . Very informative and interesting
Needs some more vids on the AC 210!
So much great work and insight in 12 minutes.
Those are some cute little blocks that you’re working on
Have you guys ever installed sleeves in the Chevy Vega engines
Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸
It's always quicker on the second. Good video.
The level of minute detail never ceases to amaze me.
Where are you finding parts for those old Continental engines? I know there are a few models for which parts are still available, but I’ve been working on a 6 cylinder R-602 and haven’t found any parts at all. Even Federal Mogul no longer lists bearings for them. Any suggestions?
I enjoy these processes regardless of what brand you're working on.
You have such a great channel 👌
3:26 "4 BOLT MAIN"... 🤣🤣🤣I'd take the subscriber metric 5:22 with a grain of salt though... many subscribers don't sign in, unless they intend to comment, like, or save; as the algorithm puts largely the same content in your offline feed, as it does your online feed. A lot of 'tubers are calling out viewers on this metric quite a lot lately. While I can't speak for everyone else, I've unsubscribed from a couple of channels because they beat this point to death so much, that their content became about metrics and not the reason I subbed in the first place - "not their metrics".
Seriously informative naration. So much good information available now. I wonder what doing an apprenticeship would be like today, now we have RUclips?
Bin vini bravo 👏🏻
Where would be the best place to get a major overhaul kit for a Continental z134?
I have a massey harris 50 which is actually a transition tractor. Massey Harris Ferguson 50. I love it.
Please correct me if I am incorrect. You center for the bore job on the original work above the wear on the top. Would it be better to use crank bores and place the bore center where blueprints or math would place it on the crank axis? You are assuming that your block is true?
I like the way your dad works smart not hard ! This looks this will coast at lease a $100.00! LOL
Someone smarter than me might know better, but could you just dip the whole engine in a oil suspension or protectant after bead blasting to prevent the flash rust?
Really enjoy your videos!
Nice work
Thank you! 😎
Dumb question. Have a Massy/Harris/Ferguson TEA20 with a standard engine. Can you weld up the cam lobes and grind them down? I have 3 scrubbed lobes. Debating on saving the tractor or scrapping it.
I’d recommend contacting Delta Camshaft in Tacoma,Washington. That’s who we generally go with for having cams repaired.
I really enjoy your videos. It is nice to watch the craftmanship that you display. Where are you guys located? Thanks.
Awesome video!
Thanks! 😎
Looking forward to seeing the next video.
Only drove 1 a 54 helping out on Market Garden Farm. I can almost hear the gears grinding.
Great Video! I wonder how far off the balance is.
first time seeing a 2 main engine
Can’t wait for the conclusion!
Man, you guys do nice work!