Thank you for this video about Bush's Beans. Just tonight I was at the grocery store and decided that I might like to eat some chili later this week. Mmmm that sounds good doesn't it? Yes, yes it does. So I get some ground turkey from Jennie-O. I'm not sure what the O stands for, but I'm working on solving that mystery. Then I swing over where they have the various flavored sand powder, and got some delicious McCormick Hot Chili sand stuff. None of that regular or mild stuff for me, on no. Then I swung over to the bean aisle of which there are two at my local store. At first all I saw were the likes of Rosarita's refried beans. Those are beans that are fried, and then fried again out of pure spite. This won't do for chili! Where are the chili beans? After about 37 minutes I remembered that they're over on the next aisle. So I go over there and pick up some Bush's spicy kidney beans and also some Bush's pinto beans. I like to mix them in my chili. On that very same aisle was Campbells soup which allowed me to pick up a can of tomato soup for the chill. Now all I needed was shredded cheese and maybe some Fritos. I worked my way through the store but stopped to play the sit-down Space Harrier machine which was in the middle of the deli. Most grocery stores have either this game or Thunder Blade, though a few have R-360. After this I wandered he store with my cart when I was recognized by another customer. "Love the show!" he said. I replied with a simple "Thanks!" But he was not finished. "May I ask you a question?" "I guess." "Those guys from My Life in Gaming... are they video producers?" I was stunned at the question. Who would ever ask such a dumb thing? Everyone knows that they're not. "No, they most certainly are not!" I replied, sounding quite offended at the question. He was a bit relieved to hear that, it seemed. "So , then they're content creators?" We both laughed and laughed. "No kind sir. My Life in Gaming are influencers." And the world rejoiced, for it was true.
@@JohnAGalvanArt i'd like to think it's more that people who make videos used to just say they make videos, no title needed. content creator is used very loosely now.
[Try4ce] There's no term that I really like calling this line of work. I tend to say "independent video producer" or "video freelancer" or something along those lines because the other terms are gross to me.
Personally, I think the whole stink about "content creators" as a term is way overblown. It's a good term imo because it captures a lot of different people, roles, and disciplines under a shared umbrella. "Video producer" works for people like Try and Coury, but what about someone like a streamer who may be putting out highlight clips but primarily produces live content? What about someone like a dance choreographer or cosplayer who is putting up lightly edited videos but is otherwise hands off when it comes to the technical side of their output because their primary focus is on the analog aspect of their content? There are a million and one varieties of people creating independent content on the internet, video and otherwise, to whom the term "video producer" might be inapplicable or inappropriate. Do some gross people use it in gross ways? Of course, but that's the internet. Just because something CAN be exploited doesn't make it inherently bad. You don't have to use it if you don't want to, that's fine! But it did strike me as really weird the way Coury, like, forced himself when he has such clear disdain for the term.
How would you advise to do a proper backup setup/solution? For instance have a similar active/online setup that copies everything on the main NAS while also making manual backups on drives that are disconnected (and depowered) after the syncing of data and stored in a different location?
@@MrOpz Yeah, the whole ethos behind saying RAID is not a backup is basically saying that RAID only provides you protection from drive failure. Ideally you follow the 3-2-1 rule: Maintain three copies of your data: This includes the original data and at least two copies. Use two different types of media for storage: Store your data on two distinct forms of media to enhance redundancy. Keep at least one copy off-site: To ensure data safety, have one backup copy stored in an off-site location, separate from your primary data and on-site backups. Another thing to note is to always do disaster tests on your backups, I work in the field and conduct disaster recovery tests for a popular BaaS solution and you would be surprised how difficult it can be (depending on the complexity of your infrastructure) it is to just "get back up and running" -- but that's with VMs mostly, file level type restores are a simpler story.
I work in video editing for a large corporation. We have a couple editors who live at least 5 hours apart and apparently we are getting a similar system this year. I shared this with out video team to see what they think. Thanks for making this video and sharing your setup!
With gameplay footage what I’ve been doing is archiving on RUclips… some captures get way too large to store in HD’s / SSD’s. And this way I can share my raw captures so anyway can use. Nice video!
For people who want to tinker, or people who can tinker and want to save money, converting an old PC into a NAS is always an option. I have an old PC case that has 6 drive bays in it, which i imagine are cheap on ebay. I'm running a 3rd gen Intel i5 and it works great for streaming and backing up files.
Very nice setup! I've had a Synology NAS for a while and I love the thing, but I eventually had to upgrade to a custom UNRAID server for more processing power. I still 100% recommend Synology for anyone who needs a good network storage solution. Pro Tip for potential new users: Those m.2 slots aren't for storage, they're for data caching, which automatically stores frequently-used files and temporarily houses files you copy over to it to dramatically speed up read/write times!
@@BladeBlur UNRAID is an OS that you can install on just about any PC that lets you make your own server out of normal parts. It has its own system for handling hard drive RAIDs that gives you a lot of flexibility, and gives you easy access to running Docker services and making network shares. It has a web interface for everything that makes it a lot more reliable and user friendly than remoting into Windows or desktop Linux server. You can even run a Windows VM on UNRAID that has direct access to a GPU in the server, giving you near-bare-metal performance to run a gaming machine in your file server!
UNRAID is a linux based OS you can deploy a JBOD with. I have one I feed all my Veeam backups to and just use it for storage but there's a ton of apps for it and you can run VMs and containers on it as well if you want.@@BladeBlur
I definitely agree. Lots of channels use game footage as B-roll while they narrate and whatnot, so a resource where you can just nab decent footage of these games is a good idea. I actually try to utilize this idea for my own gaming channel, working as more of an archive of free-to-use footage than anything, but hardware limitations doesn't let most of my footage look as good as others.
I watched this video and experienced enjoyment at several points, including: -The use of standard MLIG sound effects, music and cinematography for something not directly video game related - - I found myself thinking "oh yeah, can't wait to get one of those so I can...wait...that isn't for games lol" - The expanded story of Coury and Try's trip to where they make them beans I been thinkin bout - The practical nature of the video. Helped me take a more objective look at Synology and if it held value for me Thanks!!
thanks for making this video. i've had a NAS project in the back of my mind for a while to replace my desktop with 6 HDDs in it. listening to your experience as another tech savvy, but not networking-IT-professional level kind of person really inspired me to move this project up on my to do list. all the other networking resources online are great but they can be hard to approach
awesome stuff, , a lot of the retro gamer scene is also i.t. enthusiast-oriented. I myself have been a follower of your channel for a long time, but I also have multiple custom home servers running unraid and truenas scale, so I also follow craft computing and others. I think you shoould consider doing more of these videos, they appeal to the same audience. GG
This is what I want to see more of from MLiG videos. I love seeing behind the scenes videos that show how you solved problems so that people like me can learn from and emulate a similar solution based on our own budget and resources. Please keep making videos like this to help teach me and others.
I currently have 6-7 external hard drives which has mostly footage and I always wanted to figure out how to set up RAID. I am glad this video is here because I am not an IT person either and this gives me a basic idea of what to expect. That being said since my drives are external, I either need to open the enclosure or buy internal drives, transfer, and then sell the external drives. Point is not having to connect a different external drive every time is going to be a godsend. But more importantly, THANK YOU for bringing up Advanced Renamer because I sometimes take so much time just renaming footage files. This can streamline my work so I am so relieved this exist. Thanks again for the video!
Thank you for making and sharing this! Doing cool things with NASes, managing projects and data storage strategies, it's all super useful and interesting stuff!
ha, I have those two exact same Synology models! I took the 10gbit plunge and have to say, seeing files transfer at 900 MB/s to and from the NAS is pretty dang cool, strongly recommend
Very good explanatory video made by an enthusiast. I have been learning about the usefulness of a NAS for some time and this video helps me understand the full potential of this equipment.
You mentioned the IT backup philo, and I actually still think you should probably invest in "archival" drives that just sit unused outside of backup windows you plan for yourself, just in case...
I use a Synology NAS in my personal setup too. It's awesome! But just like you, I can't edit off of it, especially when I am web browsing at the same time, so I use it for storing my media library and project/footage backups. I recently almost hit capacity, so I got an external HDD to copy over old files. I call it Warm Storage (as opposed to Cold Storage like you would have with data tapes). Also, you just introduced me to Advanced Renamer! Thank you! Having a tool like that is going to be so useful!
That's actually kind of amazing that you didn't already have something like this, having been at this for so long. It's all just "movie magic" to the audience, I guess!
Literally just gave my spare DS218+ to my buddy, after moving over to an Unraid rig made from an HP Z440 (upgraded with a Xeon 2699 v3 18 Core 36 Thread). But Synology makes things SUPER SUPER SUPER easy!
This was a really nice little update, and fun to see the working process kindof behind the scenes a little bit! And also nice to know you gous take backup well into consideration!
7:24 I agree that there is something soothing about HDD’s reading and writing. It’s like a little mechanical bot doing its work… good rhythms to fall asleep to. I can still hear my c.2002 HP laptop clicking and clacking away.
Really great video, thank you for this. I’ve been planning to put together my own Synology rig for some time now. I think my best bet is a raid 6 array on one of their 4 bay units… with drives getting larger and larger year by year, I don’t see myself needing more capacity than what 4 large drives can get me. Add in a couple NVMEs for read/write caching, 10gig network card and this thing should be a veritable beast.
This is an interesting coincidence. Maybe around this time last year, I was alternating between binge watching MLiG and NAS videos (with a preference to Synology stuff). I'd like to think I helped Synology and/or RUclips think there's an overlap between these two markets! haha Unfortuantely, a NAS is still going to be on my "wishlist" rather than my "shopping list" for quite a while, lol
Watching this as my Gentoo box resyncs the 4x6TB RAID5 array to a spare drive in a USB dock, and its new 12T replacement sits in the hot-swap bay running badblocks. 62 hours in, another 70 or so to go, and then another couple days to mirror back to the new drive. Ah well, at least it's online the entire time. :-)
Sony c3 portal. Pro video engineer here, u can stream both directions in real-time and share everything in that nas drive. Sony air cast got solutions too
You guys are awesome and make great quality videos. i'm glad y'all have a good system set up now to make working together so much easier now. i've been watching you guy's videos for a long time and glad you're set up to make more of those great videos much easier now :)
Great episode! Really liked the last timestamp about organization - will be giving Advanced Renamer a shot. Also - I completely forgot about the Retron5. Those were the days.
It might be worth setting up some type of cloud backup as well, e.g. I think Synology NAS units support AWS Glacier backup, which is relatively cheap compared to options! I recently went through some massive storage restructuring, so I feel the pain hahaha
Back in 2019, I got a DS1819+ with 8x8TB Ironwolf drives... It was full within a month. 😩 It's hella cool that the 1821+ has m.2 slots built in... With the DS1819+ I have to choose between adding the m.2 cache or a 10Gbit NIC to the PCIe slot. You got it hooked up to a UPS and set up so the NAS starts shutting down automatically upon power loss? 🤔 This is a beautiful setup; I'll have to remember this sort of thing if I'm ever collaborating with somebody on projects. 😀👌
Sure, this isn't your usual content, but I very much enjoyed it anyway. This is a problem I'm running into, especially with 4K60 footage. Right now, I have a 1TB NVMe that Windows and my core software lives on, a 2TB internal SSD that I usually install games to and where footage for videos I'm actively editing live, a 4TB internal HDD for largely archived footage and an external USB 3.0 5TB HDD solely dedicated to past projects and archived footage for a total of 12TB. I've burned through almost all of it. That said, with me being but a mere hobbyist with my sub count, view counts and limited Ad Revenue and Patreon earnings, a NAS is a cost that, as much as I'd like one, I just can't justify right now.
[Try4ce] This actually goes way way back. I first learned of proxy files back in the days when the master video was still on tapes, and the proxies were a way to edit digitally, and then when you were ready to "render," the tape deck actually pulls the clips from the time codes one by one.
I've never personally used Proxy files. The only time I've ever worked with them is when I had another editor use them because he needed to edit footage from a connected USB hard drive which was not made for editing. It was more of a throughput issue than a CPU issue, even though his machine was 10 years old. Every time I looked at his machine I couldn't stand it because the Proxy files look so horrendous.
For those looking for a cheaper DIY solution, TrueNAS on an old PC can do alot of what this can do with possibly more computing power and customization. Takes more time and effort however.
6:47 I bought the same drive for my DS923+, and soon I'll buy a second one for mirroring. Upgrading from a DS414 with 6 & 6 TB, after 9 years without any issues.
Very interesting video guys! I've been looking into something like this for my own video storage needs, so this was helpful. Are the NAS units able to provide any other services or do they only handle cloud storage?
Depends on what format h.264/h.265 and bitrate you “may” not have any issue with editing over 1gbe. Your situation may vary but I usually don’t depending on my projects.
Look into 2.5Gb cards and a switch for the NAS and computer. Way cheaper than 10Gb equipment, you can likely edit from the NAS with that. And if it's still too slow, your transfers will be way faster.
One thing I've always wondered, is who is the final editor? From what I gleaned from the video, it seems likely that it's Coury; he had the background, and the the local files. I had previously assumed that they would basically helm their own projects, and ask for segments from the other to insert into those videos. Although, now that the files are synced, I suppose they can do collaborative editing.
[Try4ce] We both have video editing backgrounds and both almost always edit our own projects, although there have been exceptions. We help each other gather materials for the project when possible. In recent years, we tend to edit our own segments in videos, and then send them to each other for integrating into the final video with all segments from both of us.
@@mylifeingaming Thank you Try! So my original assumption was more correct (unlike my original assumption that you were a huge Tri Ace fan, it wasn't until your recent DF Weekly cameo that I *finally* realized it was actually Triforce...) You do such an amazing job with the comments, I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
I have two NAS devices at home: a Seagate 4TB single-drive NAS and a Western Digital PR4100 with four 18TB drives configured in a RAID 10 array. NAS is great, but I'm going (in time) to need 10Gb Ethernet, like you. Sometimes, I wish I had gone with the NAS you got, but I felt the PR4100 was a better bet, given the price of the drives. What upsets me is that Western Digital dropped the price of their 18TB Red drive by $200 three months later.
10 gig networking is cheaper than you think. If you want to stick to network cards officially supported by your DS1821+, the Synology E10G18-T1 is $140 USD on B&H. You can pair that with a cheaper card in the PC (where it doesn't need to be a Synology card) and directly connect them (use a decent ethernet cable, cat 6 or 6a) and still use the NAS's 1 gig port to connect it to the rest of your network. If you want to connect both the NAS and PC to the home network using 10 gigabit, then you'll need a switch with at least two 10 gigabit ports. There are decent unmanaged switches in the $150-200 price range. My approach (which is between my own desktop/server, so no need for buying the "certified" one) was to buy cheap used enterprise SFP+ 10 gigabit network cards on eBay (where they go for like $20-30 USD, and then I could use affordable SFP+ switches, like Mikrotik's $119 CSS610-8G-2S+IN or their $199 USD CRS326-24G-2S+IN, both of which have two 10 gig ports and a varying amount of 1 gig ports.
I can't wait for the updated game room tour
YES. SHOW US THE GLORY!!!
Me neither...!
Ye
Same.
Im waiting since 2016, or did I miss a video?
Thank you for this video about Bush's Beans. Just tonight I was at the grocery store and decided that I might like to eat some chili later this week. Mmmm that sounds good doesn't it? Yes, yes it does. So I get some ground turkey from Jennie-O. I'm not sure what the O stands for, but I'm working on solving that mystery. Then I swing over where they have the various flavored sand powder, and got some delicious McCormick Hot Chili sand stuff. None of that regular or mild stuff for me, on no. Then I swung over to the bean aisle of which there are two at my local store. At first all I saw were the likes of Rosarita's refried beans. Those are beans that are fried, and then fried again out of pure spite. This won't do for chili! Where are the chili beans? After about 37 minutes I remembered that they're over on the next aisle. So I go over there and pick up some Bush's spicy kidney beans and also some Bush's pinto beans. I like to mix them in my chili. On that very same aisle was Campbells soup which allowed me to pick up a can of tomato soup for the chill. Now all I needed was shredded cheese and maybe some Fritos. I worked my way through the store but stopped to play the sit-down Space Harrier machine which was in the middle of the deli. Most grocery stores have either this game or Thunder Blade, though a few have R-360. After this I wandered he store with my cart when I was recognized by another customer. "Love the show!" he said. I replied with a simple "Thanks!" But he was not finished. "May I ask you a question?" "I guess." "Those guys from My Life in Gaming... are they video producers?" I was stunned at the question. Who would ever ask such a dumb thing? Everyone knows that they're not. "No, they most certainly are not!" I replied, sounding quite offended at the question. He was a bit relieved to hear that, it seemed. "So , then they're content creators?" We both laughed and laughed. "No kind sir. My Life in Gaming are influencers." And the world rejoiced, for it was true.
3:55 Coury really said “content creators (derogatory)” lol
is it a dirty term now? legit curious.
@@JohnAGalvanArt i'd like to think it's more that people who make videos used to just say they make videos, no title needed. content creator is used very loosely now.
I thought "content creator" is what influencers prefer to call themselves...
[Try4ce] There's no term that I really like calling this line of work. I tend to say "independent video producer" or "video freelancer" or something along those lines because the other terms are gross to me.
Personally, I think the whole stink about "content creators" as a term is way overblown. It's a good term imo because it captures a lot of different people, roles, and disciplines under a shared umbrella. "Video producer" works for people like Try and Coury, but what about someone like a streamer who may be putting out highlight clips but primarily produces live content? What about someone like a dance choreographer or cosplayer who is putting up lightly edited videos but is otherwise hands off when it comes to the technical side of their output because their primary focus is on the analog aspect of their content? There are a million and one varieties of people creating independent content on the internet, video and otherwise, to whom the term "video producer" might be inapplicable or inappropriate. Do some gross people use it in gross ways? Of course, but that's the internet. Just because something CAN be exploited doesn't make it inherently bad. You don't have to use it if you don't want to, that's fine! But it did strike me as really weird the way Coury, like, forced himself when he has such clear disdain for the term.
Just your friendly IT reminder RAID is not a backup. It's just an uptime protection.
My first thought when he said they had a back up was "who will be the first person to say RAID is not a back up"
How would you advise to do a proper backup setup/solution? For instance have a similar active/online setup that copies everything on the main NAS while also making manual backups on drives that are disconnected (and depowered) after the syncing of data and stored in a different location?
@@MrOpz Yeah, the whole ethos behind saying RAID is not a backup is basically saying that RAID only provides you protection from drive failure. Ideally you follow the 3-2-1 rule: Maintain three copies of your data: This includes the original data and at least two copies. Use two different types of media for storage: Store your data on two distinct forms of media to enhance redundancy. Keep at least one copy off-site: To ensure data safety, have one backup copy stored in an off-site location, separate from your primary data and on-site backups.
Another thing to note is to always do disaster tests on your backups, I work in the field and conduct disaster recovery tests for a popular BaaS solution and you would be surprised how difficult it can be (depending on the complexity of your infrastructure) it is to just "get back up and running" -- but that's with VMs mostly, file level type restores are a simpler story.
I work in video editing for a large corporation. We have a couple editors who live at least 5 hours apart and apparently we are getting a similar system this year. I shared this with out video team to see what they think. Thanks for making this video and sharing your setup!
Hang on a second, is that Joe from GameSack? 😄
13:47
I was just going to ask the same thing!
Yep, it's Joe.
People tend to underestimate how much work a content creator has to preserve all their work. Great video
With gameplay footage what I’ve been doing is archiving on RUclips… some captures get way too large to store in HD’s / SSD’s. And this way I can share my raw captures so anyway can use.
Nice video!
12:15 this needs a Polaroid photo and put it in a whiteboard as an all time friendship sourvenir~
For people who want to tinker, or people who can tinker and want to save money, converting an old PC into a NAS is always an option. I have an old PC case that has 6 drive bays in it, which i imagine are cheap on ebay. I'm running a 3rd gen Intel i5 and it works great for streaming and backing up files.
As an amateur video editor I love seeing this stuff & learning what the real pro's are using 👍👍
Roll that beautiful B footage! Thanks for sharing how you make the sausage. Definitely a lot more goes into your videos than us viewers realize
Very nice setup! I've had a Synology NAS for a while and I love the thing, but I eventually had to upgrade to a custom UNRAID server for more processing power. I still 100% recommend Synology for anyone who needs a good network storage solution. Pro Tip for potential new users: Those m.2 slots aren't for storage, they're for data caching, which automatically stores frequently-used files and temporarily houses files you copy over to it to dramatically speed up read/write times!
Custom Unraid? How does that differ than RAID?
@@BladeBlur UNRAID is an OS that you can install on just about any PC that lets you make your own server out of normal parts. It has its own system for handling hard drive RAIDs that gives you a lot of flexibility, and gives you easy access to running Docker services and making network shares. It has a web interface for everything that makes it a lot more reliable and user friendly than remoting into Windows or desktop Linux server. You can even run a Windows VM on UNRAID that has direct access to a GPU in the server, giving you near-bare-metal performance to run a gaming machine in your file server!
UNRAID is a linux based OS you can deploy a JBOD with. I have one I feed all my Veeam backups to and just use it for storage but there's a ton of apps for it and you can run VMs and containers on it as well if you want.@@BladeBlur
@@BladeBlur Unraid is not a RAID replacement. It's an OS you can install on any PC to make your own NAS setup
Have you ever considered licensing some of your footage? I think the g-roll and archival footage would be very interesting for a lot of creators.
I definitely agree. Lots of channels use game footage as B-roll while they narrate and whatnot, so a resource where you can just nab decent footage of these games is a good idea.
I actually try to utilize this idea for my own gaming channel, working as more of an archive of free-to-use footage than anything, but hardware limitations doesn't let most of my footage look as good as others.
I'm amazed at how much you guys have. This would be a treasure trove for game preservationists.
The Bush Bean dog was awesome
I watched this video and experienced enjoyment at several points, including:
-The use of standard MLIG sound effects, music and cinematography for something not directly video game related
- - I found myself thinking "oh yeah, can't wait to get one of those so I can...wait...that isn't for games lol"
- The expanded story of Coury and Try's trip to where they make them beans I been thinkin bout
- The practical nature of the video. Helped me take a more objective look at Synology and if it held value for me
Thanks!!
For a moment I thought this was the new setup tour video, but this is still really cool and helpful. I can wait a bit longer haha.
This was great. Gives more of an appreciation for all the work that goes into every single episode.
Bush's Beans sponsorship when. RAID is for redundancy, if anything ever happens though the fact you have a backup 8 hours away is a life saver!
thanks for making this video. i've had a NAS project in the back of my mind for a while to replace my desktop with 6 HDDs in it. listening to your experience as another tech savvy, but not networking-IT-professional level kind of person really inspired me to move this project up on my to do list. all the other networking resources online are great but they can be hard to approach
awesome stuff,
,
a lot of the retro gamer scene is also i.t. enthusiast-oriented.
I myself have been a follower of your channel for a long time,
but I also have multiple custom home servers running unraid and truenas scale, so I also follow craft computing and others.
I think you shoould consider doing more of these videos, they appeal to the same audience.
GG
This is what I want to see more of from MLiG videos. I love seeing behind the scenes videos that show how you solved problems so that people like me can learn from and emulate a similar solution based on our own budget and resources.
Please keep making videos like this to help teach me and others.
Roll that beautiful bean footage!
I currently have 6-7 external hard drives which has mostly footage and I always wanted to figure out how to set up RAID. I am glad this video is here because I am not an IT person either and this gives me a basic idea of what to expect. That being said since my drives are external, I either need to open the enclosure or buy internal drives, transfer, and then sell the external drives. Point is not having to connect a different external drive every time is going to be a godsend.
But more importantly, THANK YOU for bringing up Advanced Renamer because I sometimes take so much time just renaming footage files. This can streamline my work so I am so relieved this exist.
Thanks again for the video!
This type of gear videos makes me wonder how much you guys have spended through the years ever sincethe MLIG channel began.
I have a 920+ and love it. Excellent video, dudes!
Last few days i recovering Raid 10 from QNAP NAS on work. And notification from MLiG was so good timed.. so, i guess, i was blessed. Who knew?
14:58 advanced renamer is great, i use it all the time for bulk renaming purposes
Coury's setup has gotten SO slick. _chef's kiss_
Good guy Coury, doing these tests so we don’t have to. Looks like an awesome unit
Thank you for making and sharing this! Doing cool things with NASes, managing projects and data storage strategies, it's all super useful and interesting stuff!
I have a Synology 12 drive NAS and a 12 bay expansion unit. They are populated with 8TB drives. ~140TB total storage space. I have a nice Plex setup.
ha, I have those two exact same Synology models! I took the 10gbit plunge and have to say, seeing files transfer at 900 MB/s to and from the NAS is pretty dang cool, strongly recommend
Very good explanatory video made by an enthusiast. I have been learning about the usefulness of a NAS for some time and this video helps me understand the full potential of this equipment.
Synology and their products are fantastic. I have never been disappointed by them.
You mentioned the IT backup philo, and I actually still think you should probably invest in "archival" drives that just sit unused outside of backup windows you plan for yourself, just in case...
I use a Synology NAS in my personal setup too. It's awesome! But just like you, I can't edit off of it, especially when I am web browsing at the same time, so I use it for storing my media library and project/footage backups. I recently almost hit capacity, so I got an external HDD to copy over old files. I call it Warm Storage (as opposed to Cold Storage like you would have with data tapes). Also, you just introduced me to Advanced Renamer! Thank you! Having a tool like that is going to be so useful!
That's actually kind of amazing that you didn't already have something like this, having been at this for so long. It's all just "movie magic" to the audience, I guess!
I've been using Synology units for well over a decade now. I currently have the 1821+ and two 5 bay expansions and love them.
Literally just gave my spare DS218+ to my buddy, after moving over to an Unraid rig made from an HP Z440 (upgraded with a Xeon 2699 v3 18 Core 36 Thread). But Synology makes things SUPER SUPER SUPER easy!
This was a really nice little update, and fun to see the working process kindof behind the scenes a little bit! And also nice to know you gous take backup well into consideration!
7:24 I agree that there is something soothing about HDD’s reading and writing. It’s like a little mechanical bot doing its work… good rhythms to fall asleep to. I can still hear my c.2002 HP laptop clicking and clacking away.
This sounds cool as hell. Thanks for sharing this.
Love the channel. 10 more years please. Lol
This was an interesting behind the scenes video. It's an extremely facinating subject and one of my favorite MLIG Mini episodes.
Really great video, thank you for this. I’ve been planning to put together my own Synology rig for some time now. I think my best bet is a raid 6 array on one of their 4 bay units… with drives getting larger and larger year by year, I don’t see myself needing more capacity than what 4 large drives can get me. Add in a couple NVMEs for read/write caching, 10gig network card and this thing should be a veritable beast.
11:58 The B in B-Roll stands for Beans
This is an interesting coincidence. Maybe around this time last year, I was alternating between binge watching MLiG and NAS videos (with a preference to Synology stuff). I'd like to think I helped Synology and/or RUclips think there's an overlap between these two markets! haha
Unfortuantely, a NAS is still going to be on my "wishlist" rather than my "shopping list" for quite a while, lol
Watching this as my Gentoo box resyncs the 4x6TB RAID5 array to a spare drive in a USB dock, and its new 12T replacement sits in the hot-swap bay running badblocks. 62 hours in, another 70 or so to go, and then another couple days to mirror back to the new drive. Ah well, at least it's online the entire time. :-)
always run badblocks on a new drive. good call!
My momma always said... Life's like a ...
Tin of beans? 🤠
I've used a Synology DS13+ with WD NAS drives for the last 11 years and it's been rock solid.
I used Advanced Renamer every day for work, it’s excellent. Great shout-out
Really good video! Any plans in the future to do an updated game room tour and possibly show how your streaming equipment is set up?
You lied and said this was going to be a boring video. This was great!
This was something I have been wanting to get for my setup too. It definitely would improve on video production for me
God I love these guys so much.
Sony c3 portal. Pro video engineer here, u can stream both directions in real-time and share everything in that nas drive. Sony air cast got solutions too
You guys are awesome and make great quality videos. i'm glad y'all have a good system set up now to make working together so much easier now. i've been watching you guy's videos for a long time and glad you're set up to make more of those great videos much easier now :)
Awesome insight into how you guys work. I'll probably be adopting some of this myself in the near future for my own projects!
This is a great video! I love the behind the scenes of the creators!
Very interesting. I've been thinking about doing the Nas too
Unfortunately, my main concern wasn't addressed - how long does it take a NAS to reheat leftover baked beans?
bean segment was fun!
Heard about this on the latest livestream - will be saving this to watch later tonight! I was really interested by it.
Great episode! Really liked the last timestamp about organization - will be giving Advanced Renamer a shot. Also - I completely forgot about the Retron5. Those were the days.
Funnily enough I've been evaluating NAS solutions. If Coury and Try say this worked for them I'm sold on Synology.
I'd be interested to see more about how y'all make your episodes. Very cool stuff. Thank you for sharing!
This was really interesting - just to see the process and how you solved the problem
It might be worth setting up some type of cloud backup as well, e.g. I think Synology NAS units support AWS Glacier backup, which is relatively cheap compared to options! I recently went through some massive storage restructuring, so I feel the pain hahaha
This was all great information.
13:15 I feel you on that man. I archive original xbox content. Very meticulous about keeping the files clean and sorted
Fascinating episode guys. Thanks!
This video made me buy that door mat for my new apartment!
Even though I didnt have confirmation until now, I always knew Try was a bean man.
You can also run RetroNAS on these in a Docker Container :D
I'd like to see more about your workflow.
Back in 2019, I got a DS1819+ with 8x8TB Ironwolf drives... It was full within a month. 😩 It's hella cool that the 1821+ has m.2 slots built in... With the DS1819+ I have to choose between adding the m.2 cache or a 10Gbit NIC to the PCIe slot. You got it hooked up to a UPS and set up so the NAS starts shutting down automatically upon power loss? 🤔 This is a beautiful setup; I'll have to remember this sort of thing if I'm ever collaborating with somebody on projects. 😀👌
Uuuh this is gonna be a nice series!
Great video, Coury
Sure, this isn't your usual content, but I very much enjoyed it anyway. This is a problem I'm running into, especially with 4K60 footage. Right now, I have a 1TB NVMe that Windows and my core software lives on, a 2TB internal SSD that I usually install games to and where footage for videos I'm actively editing live, a 4TB internal HDD for largely archived footage and an external USB 3.0 5TB HDD solely dedicated to past projects and archived footage for a total of 12TB. I've burned through almost all of it. That said, with me being but a mere hobbyist with my sub count, view counts and limited Ad Revenue and Patreon earnings, a NAS is a cost that, as much as I'd like one, I just can't justify right now.
I love my Synology. Going to upgrade to a bigger/faster one hopefully at some point.
Trust MLiG to make the most in-depth ad you ever saw on youtube.
pretty unrelated since im new to editing but whoever came up with the concept of proxy files deserves all the raises
[Try4ce] This actually goes way way back. I first learned of proxy files back in the days when the master video was still on tapes, and the proxies were a way to edit digitally, and then when you were ready to "render," the tape deck actually pulls the clips from the time codes one by one.
I've never personally used Proxy files. The only time I've ever worked with them is when I had another editor use them because he needed to edit footage from a connected USB hard drive which was not made for editing. It was more of a throughput issue than a CPU issue, even though his machine was 10 years old. Every time I looked at his machine I couldn't stand it because the Proxy files look so horrendous.
My Synology DS920+ has been ROCK solid for plex/sonarr/etc. Not Cheap, but it was a very good decision.
13:48 Joe Redifer?
Excellent!
For those looking for a cheaper DIY solution, TrueNAS on an old PC can do alot of what this can do with possibly more computing power and customization. Takes more time and effort however.
Holy crap, Advanced Renamer is about to change my life!
6:47 I bought the same drive for my DS923+, and soon I'll buy a second one for mirroring.
Upgrading from a DS414 with 6 & 6 TB, after 9 years without any issues.
Very interesting video guys! I've been looking into something like this for my own video storage needs, so this was helpful. Are the NAS units able to provide any other services or do they only handle cloud storage?
Depends on what format h.264/h.265 and bitrate you “may” not have any issue with editing over 1gbe. Your situation may vary but I usually don’t depending on my projects.
Look into 2.5Gb cards and a switch for the NAS and computer. Way cheaper than 10Gb equipment, you can likely edit from the NAS with that. And if it's still too slow, your transfers will be way faster.
One thing I've always wondered, is who is the final editor? From what I gleaned from the video, it seems likely that it's Coury; he had the background, and the the local files. I had previously assumed that they would basically helm their own projects, and ask for segments from the other to insert into those videos.
Although, now that the files are synced, I suppose they can do collaborative editing.
[Try4ce] We both have video editing backgrounds and both almost always edit our own projects, although there have been exceptions. We help each other gather materials for the project when possible. In recent years, we tend to edit our own segments in videos, and then send them to each other for integrating into the final video with all segments from both of us.
@@mylifeingaming Thank you Try! So my original assumption was more correct (unlike my original assumption that you were a huge Tri Ace fan, it wasn't until your recent DF Weekly cameo that I *finally* realized it was actually Triforce...)
You do such an amazing job with the comments, I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Crazy how much you can fit in your NAS
9:22 haha that's not bad actually. It took me around 20 days to migrate around 400tb for my unraid server last thanksgiving.
I have two NAS devices at home: a Seagate 4TB single-drive NAS and a Western Digital PR4100 with four 18TB drives configured in a RAID 10 array. NAS is great, but I'm going (in time) to need 10Gb Ethernet, like you. Sometimes, I wish I had gone with the NAS you got, but I felt the PR4100 was a better bet, given the price of the drives. What upsets me is that Western Digital dropped the price of their 18TB Red drive by $200 three months later.
Roll that beautiful MLiG footage
10 gig networking is cheaper than you think. If you want to stick to network cards officially supported by your DS1821+, the Synology E10G18-T1 is $140 USD on B&H. You can pair that with a cheaper card in the PC (where it doesn't need to be a Synology card) and directly connect them (use a decent ethernet cable, cat 6 or 6a) and still use the NAS's 1 gig port to connect it to the rest of your network. If you want to connect both the NAS and PC to the home network using 10 gigabit, then you'll need a switch with at least two 10 gigabit ports. There are decent unmanaged switches in the $150-200 price range.
My approach (which is between my own desktop/server, so no need for buying the "certified" one) was to buy cheap used enterprise SFP+ 10 gigabit network cards on eBay (where they go for like $20-30 USD, and then I could use affordable SFP+ switches, like Mikrotik's $119 CSS610-8G-2S+IN or their $199 USD CRS326-24G-2S+IN, both of which have two 10 gig ports and a varying amount of 1 gig ports.
Dont forget backup!
Why not do SMB over a vpn. It would give you the same server under the desk experience.