@@Slavkovic_Predrag How about you take a snapshot from situation at 42-43 seconds and only then make it explode? So the starting point is the one where the shell essentialy stops. We may omit the part of armor slowly flying away, because the filler explosion won't affect it.
Armour material is still a bit too strong. Or is it because of the shells nose blunting, I wonder? Regardless this penetration performance is not as good as I expected. It would be interesting to see this scenario simulated again, but with the shells nose not eroding. Just give it very high yield strength(50 GPa) that should do it.
The ballistic limit for the british 6pdr (57mm) uncapped AP against Tiger I driver's plate (102mm/9°) was found to be only about 2400fps (732m/s), much smaller than 940m/s we see here (even considering the difference in shell mass and design).
Armor material is 230 brinells standard for 100mm thick plate. (Some sources put 100mm rha higher and some lower). Afaik caps were made out of softer steel than penetrators but it could be that I made it too weak.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag I have a picture of cross-sectional hardness profile of a german AP shell with its cap. I can't post it here, RUclips keeps deleting comments with URL links in them. Do you have some other way I can send it to you? Discord? Email?
It has 120-125mm of pen at this range. 145mm is at 10m. Overestimated by a bit but might be accurate since ww2 tanks had steel od lower hardness so it could be accurate.
@@5co756 the round in WarThunder penetration value is thrown off by being a cap shell, APC shells in game get a generic amor pen buff. Most calculations go around ~140 which if you remove the buff it matches these values WarThunder doesn't have a partial pen mechanic so rounds go through when they would have stopped In game this is fine as many shells get stuck on overlapping armor, and probably would be pain without The Armor seems strong in this simulation however, I wouldn't be surprised but the results either
The gun was produced in 1944 and stuff like the zsu 57 in the 50s so it wouldn't really have been used against stuff like it but yeah pretty good gun+rounds
@@yuurichito1439 Yep but even in real life the ZSU-57 was better in anti-ground role than anti-air.. and unlike in war thunder Soviet tree where most people heard of it, it even had proxy fuse rounds.
Someone recommend that i test it out against Leo 1 UFP, but since it has no chanse of penetrating it I will test it against lfp or sides at some angle.
@@danko8983 Since this is first aphe projectile i made to work like real life test results i will do few videos with it and then move on to different guns. I will try to make 90mm asap but also work on kwk43 88mm and us 75 and 76mm as well as Soviet 85mm.
Did you see a single RUclipsr simulate post penetration explosion of APHE? I can't simulate it on student license. If you buy me some 20k $ server and 30k $ license i will simulate it lol.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag yes... Although technically he just copyed and pasted the previous simulation over the fully pened plate... Where the task takes longer it is possible to do and technically you get 1$~ per view on RUclips so yes, yes I do perhaps not now but probably in the future. (good luck on your studies btw)
@@Slavkovic_Predrag ruclips.net/video/DUvN1yrk-LY/видео.html link if you're interested... Here's the other one I've seen ruclips.net/video/EtcRMThYZHg/видео.html
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Please do 130mm aphe (is-7) vs Tiger 2 glacis.
could you maybe do a follow up vid on this? would the explosion afterwards create enough scrapnel for the shell to still hurt anyone inside?
I could make it explode in a different simulation without it hitting something first. If I did both in one simulation it would just crash.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag How about you take a snapshot from situation at 42-43 seconds and only then make it explode? So the starting point is the one where the shell essentialy stops. We may omit the part of armor slowly flying away, because the filler explosion won't affect it.
Armour material is still a bit too strong. Or is it because of the shells nose blunting, I wonder? Regardless this penetration performance is not as good as I expected. It would be interesting to see this scenario simulated again, but with the shells nose not eroding. Just give it very high yield strength(50 GPa) that should do it.
The ballistic limit for the british 6pdr (57mm) uncapped AP against Tiger I driver's plate (102mm/9°) was found to be only about 2400fps (732m/s), much smaller than 940m/s we see here (even considering the difference in shell mass and design).
Armor material is 230 brinells standard for 100mm thick plate. (Some sources put 100mm rha higher and some lower). Afaik caps were made out of softer steel than penetrators but it could be that I made it too weak.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag I have a picture of cross-sectional hardness profile of a german AP shell with its cap. I can't post it here, RUclips keeps deleting comments with URL links in them. Do you have some other way I can send it to you? Discord? Email?
@@peasant8246 slavkovicpredrag003@gmail.com
Or Djape#9486 on discord.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag Thanks, I will send the schematics via Discord.
What does this pen in WT ? 150mm ? That looks like a ~110mm plate would stop that round .
It has 120-125mm of pen at this range. 145mm is at 10m. Overestimated by a bit but might be accurate since ww2 tanks had steel od lower hardness so it could be accurate.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag I don't know , this has more pen than a 8.8 or the Soviet 85mm in theory .
@@5co756 the round in WarThunder penetration value is thrown off by being a cap shell, APC shells in game get a generic amor pen buff.
Most calculations go around ~140 which if you remove the buff it matches these values
WarThunder doesn't have a partial pen mechanic so rounds go through when they would have stopped
In game this is fine as many shells get stuck on overlapping armor, and probably would be pain without
The Armor seems strong in this simulation however, I wouldn't be surprised but the results either
Didn’t expect seeing the Soviet 57MM anti air gun , also it can peen tiger 1 from the front 😂😂
The gun was produced in 1944 and stuff like the zsu 57 in the 50s so it wouldn't really have been used against stuff like it but yeah pretty good gun+rounds
@@yuurichito1439 armour peen rounds...
@@meanteen yee
@@yuurichito1439 Yep but even in real life the ZSU-57 was better in anti-ground role than anti-air.. and unlike in war thunder Soviet tree where most people heard of it, it even had proxy fuse rounds.
Won't work in real life
Someone recommend that i test it out against Leo 1 UFP, but since it has no chanse of penetrating it I will test it against lfp or sides at some angle.
I would like to see the 90mm T33 against Leo 1 UFP, it is less thicker than the Panther but has 5 extra degrees of angle
@@danko8983 Since this is first aphe projectile i made to work like real life test results i will do few videos with it and then move on to different guns. I will try to make 90mm asap but also work on kwk43 88mm and us 75 and 76mm as well as Soviet 85mm.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag nice! Im looking forward to see the results! You earned a sub
It would still be cool to see it against ufp
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Why no new videos? Are you alright?
University, working and other stuff got in the way unfortunately. Other than that I'm fine thanks for asking.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag Alright, hope to see you resume uploading videos one day. Take care.
Could u try the 40mm m42 duster
I could try it there are a lot of diagrams on 40mm bofors ammo and i am genuinely interested in larger caliber autocannons.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag that's ok
what is the name of the application
Ansys.
Very nice
Where's the HE? That's an aphe... WHERE'S THE HIGH EXPLOSIVE?
Btw the HE might make the hole 50%~150% BIGGER and bigger is always a better option
Did you see a single RUclipsr simulate post penetration explosion of APHE?
I can't simulate it on student license. If you buy me some 20k $ server and 30k $ license i will simulate it lol.
@@meanteen 20grams of TNT won't make it any bigger. They would probably just shatter the back part.
@@Slavkovic_Predrag yes... Although technically he just copyed and pasted the previous simulation over the fully pened plate... Where the task takes longer it is possible to do and technically you get 1$~ per view on RUclips so yes, yes I do perhaps not now but probably in the future. (good luck on your studies btw)
@@Slavkovic_Predrag ruclips.net/video/DUvN1yrk-LY/видео.html link if you're interested... Here's the other one I've seen ruclips.net/video/EtcRMThYZHg/видео.html