J. A. Fay & Egan Co. 950 Lightning Bandsaw
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2013
- In the Fall of 2011, I found this J. A. Fay & Egan Co. 950 Lightning band saw at the Millwork Company in Zillah, Washington. The previous owner got it in 2002 or 2003 from the McNally Lumber Company in Columbus, Ohio, who was the original owner. They purchased the saw in 1947. It was on the second floor at the McNally Lumber Company and the wheels had to come off to move it. The tires were rutted when the second owner got it in Zillah. He always ran 1/4 inch blades on it. The wheels have anti-seize material on the shafts so they should come off easily. I got help getting the saw into my trailer and rigged correctly. Then it was a white knuckle drive back to Portland from Zillah. Everything made the trip safely. I rented a fork lift to get it out of the trailer and into the shop. I moved it into position with a shop made cart and my shop made gantry crane.
The band saw has 36 inch wheels and can re-saw up to 22.5 inches in height and 35.5 inches in width. According to its papers, its shipping weight is 3000 lbs. It is powered by a 5 hp, 3 phase, 870 rpm motor. The blade is tensioned with a lever and a weight. The weight can be adjusted along the lever to accommodate different blade widths. The guides are meant for thinner blades which is what the previous two owners ran on it. The tires are rutted and need replacing as only thin blades have been run on it. The upper guides are helped with their vertical movement by a counter weight. The band saw has a foot break as the wheels have a lot of momentum in them. The table tilting mechanism is very smooth. It tilts 45 degrees to the right and 10 degrees to the left. There is an adjustable swiveling arm that stops the table at level. It has a 4 inch dust collection port near the floor.
In the video, I demonstrate some of the jigs I have made for it. The first is a tall fence for re-sawing. The second is a circle cutting jig for making bowl blanks for the lathe. The third is a jig for holding big stout objects as they are being cut in a straight line. In the end, I make a birch band saw bird feeder to demonstrate the saw.
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I love old machines like these. We were working with machines from 50s and 60s at my school and i cant imagine using any other tools than these. Old stuff is just made better
Bandsaw is in Beautiful Condition for a 74 year old machine ! Very Nice Saw it will last FOREVER if taken care of : )
It's just a miracle. Frank I want such a saw. It's the pearl of your workshop.
Ahh. They are beautiful machines. I worked at a pipe organ company in CT for thirty years. There’s a somewhat older Fay and Egan there, of the same size. I love that saw, and I’ve spent many hours with it cutting yokes and profiles. These days I’m in a small shop, with smaller machines, and I love them too. But those beautiful big tools are treasures. We also have two Dewalts like yours, and a very large Tannewitz. Very much enjoying scrolling through all your videos.
Beautiful piece of equipment. Great find. As always...thank you for your You Tube contributions. Fan from Nova Scotia.
Thank you for keeping these old tools working. The quality of these heavy machines far exceeds anything you could buy new. Love the "Fred Flintstone" bird feeder! Yaba daba doo!
Thanks for the detail shots, Frank. I learned about the Carter Products Co that is less than a mile from my office and had never heard of them!
Awesome old beast there. Have to admit I love your penchant for vintage machinery.
You sir are the man, love all your videos, better than PBS. One hell of an artist.
A tip for preventing the wood from splitting so much. When working with green wood wrap it up in several layers of newspaper between each work session. This draws the moisture out of the wood evenly. You need fresh newspaper for each time that you wrap it as it gets quite damp, even just overnight. I keep a stack of newspaper in my shop just for this purpose.
What’s newspaper? 🤪
This is really impressive every time I watch it. I know of the McNally lumber company, it was right around the corner from where I work.
Frank the best thing about the bird house IS THAT YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! an what a great band saw.
I saw one this big when I was in Kumasi, Ghana west Africa in 2012. They have a small city of nothing but woodworkers called the Wood Village. Never in my entire life have I ever seen such beautiful hardwoods with names we rarely hear in this country such as odum, black ofram, white ofram, shedua, guarea, denya, and wawa. African mahogany and teak, African, is also common there. I didn't get to see the band saw in operation but I saw of the resawn boards. I miss going there but father time has caught up with me. That's life.
That is an absolute beast. It must be a pleasure to work with.
That's a really good deal for the condition of the machine. Tires are trivial. Your stop motion is excellent, Lol. Thanks for the videos!
Nice find ! Good deal too. Nicely resurrected. A real beauty. No need to bolt that beast to the floor ! 240" blade wow. Love your videos.
What a beautiful piece of industrial history.
Just been looking through all your amazing machine vids and i'm so blown away by them all. You've managed to get hold of some real treasures! Never would they ever fit in my small garage but I did take some solace when I noticed that I, at least, have the same tape measure as you. :-D
You're band saw we all lust for. And such a deal you got, wow.
... dramatic stills of the saw in transit are a very nice touch!
Frank, you are an artist!
tremendous saw, tremendous wood shop and tremendous video quality!
Dear Frank, I very much enjoyed the story of the bandsaw. Back then everything was deluxe and made to last forever. When you're not height restricted, the opportunity to rescue a machine like this practical. Good thinking on your part to design the headroom into your shop!
A fascinating story about your bandsaw, that must have been a really hairy drive back. What a wonderful piece of machinery it is, and I am sure it's grateful it now has a caring home. Your feeder couldn't have come out any better, its superb Frank.
Cheers
Mike
I liked the back story of the saw. I am from Columbus Ohio. nice video!
That thing is larger than our sawmill. Awesome machine!
Fred Flintstone...I love it!
Well done sir. Love the older well built equipment.
This reminds me of a photo from the 20's of a mob killing. They cut the guy in half on a bandsaw and his waist and legs was still sitting on the saw. Love your workshop.
Awesome video and Saw! Very cool birdfeeder too.
That tracking and tensioner assembly is out of this world cool!!!
Nice pics' too! Always got to get one of the item on the trailer with landscape in the background!!!
Very cool piece of machinery, and a very deserving owner
Its not quite in the same class as an Oliver or Tannewitz but its still a bloody good bandsaw. I used to run a Lightning joiner from the same vintage. Its was a beauty. American post war woodworking machinery is just superb. Thats some serious all American history you got there. Nice.
That's one big bandsaw.🙂🙂
I took notice of this HUGE bandsaw in your (new) 2017 Christmas ornament video and went to your video list to see if I could find more about it ;) Thanks!
I have some SERIOUS bandsaw envy now...
What a fantastic old tool. And thanks for sending me the link.
Now THAT is a band saw !
Great find! Love your shop design, too!
What a machine!!! Great price too. I bet with trip and lift rental you're less than $2K into it. Awesome.
Excellent video, and a very cool machine.
Amazing piece of machinery. And very tasteful video. You're an artist!
Wow! That's a beauty and a beast.
That is a thing of beauty.
This is a great bandsaw. The school I work for and attended (The Furniture Institute of MA) has a similar bandsaw, older. Its a gem of saw and cuts great. Great purchase.
A gorgeous piece of equipment!
Great looking machine
What an amazing tool. Good to see it being used.
That's a proper bandsaw.
That is one wicked bandsaw!! I now have bandsaw envy. Lol
Nice story, fantastic piece of equipment!
They really dont make tools like they did in the beginning/middle of the last century, and i should know, im selling new tools at work =P
These old "behemoths" always leave me with awe, how did they make such exact and high quality with the limited machinery they had!
might be because they costed a real fortune back then... =)
What a beauty!
Amazing! I love that you got it for so cheap, I've seen 14 inch bandsaws for $1500. Nice video!
Thanks, the stop motion stuff is really not to hard, I find it the most enjoyable part of the film making.
Cool, you should do a shop tour video or videos on your other machines!
Belle machine !
Nice job! I really like your stop motion. You must have an incredible amount of patience to do those long stop motion segments. Your videos are well edited and are some of the very few woodworking videos that I can watch w/o skipping through :)
What's always fascinated me is that there are these tiny little blades available, such as 1/8", in lenghts that work on these giant machines. It feels like the only blades that should work on these are massive saw mill blades.
This saw was popular about the same time as Tommy Dorsey. During a kind of a Big Bandsaw Era.
Your videos rock! Your band saw rocks! You're impressive!
20 ft. Blade???!? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!! That's a monster!
That's a dream machine!
what a fantastic machine,.........
There’s no way you could buy a bandsaw of that quality today for $1000 that bandsaw is worth every penny
nice band saw, I find a 36" Crecent band saw & was made in 1905, the gross weight 1400 lbs in Sacramento, Ca.
DESDE ARGENTINA TE SIGO EN TU CANAL SOY FANATICO DE LA CARPINTERIA Y DE TODOS LOS ACCESORIOS QUE SE PUEDAN HACER,SOBRE TODO LOS DE SEGURIDAD.
TIENES UN TALLER ESPECTACULAR, YO TENGO EL MIO PERO NO TANTAS HERRAMIENTAS Y TAN ESPECIFICOS, LO QUE PASA QUE AQUI NO HAY TANTOS ACCESORIOS.
SIGUE ASI EXCELENTE LO TUYO.
I need to go to more auctions...
have a little Sony voice recorder for audio. I have 3500k ceiling lighting in the shop I have been trying different methods of augmenting that but nothing great yet. I think the key really is editing and telling a story. I learned allot from this video " The Woodpecker Ep 20 The Making Of"
Frank, you are the man! I relate to you in that I am very passionate about carpentry and I am an architecture student at USF in Tampa FL. I am only 27 now and far from where you are which makes me wonder when did you start getting into carpentry and how long did it take you to get where you are today. It seems that you have quite the investment in this wood shop which I think was wonderfully thought out not to mention how awesome the architecture of it is. Id like to know what you were doing for a living during this time and maybe just a little more about your story. Thanks for all the great videos, you are an inspiration to young aspiring architects/carpenters like myself.
I worked as an architect for 15 yeas or so and did woodworking as a hobby. I had 2 basement shops before this one. Scrounging for tools and wood. Now I am a stay at home dad and making a go at the wood working and film making. Good luck with your aspirations.
nice truck
That's a lot of bandsaw for $1000
36 inch bandsaws go cheap.
The sliding doors are not attached at the bottom. I still need to get a brush to help seal the bottom of the north door. The top is just a standard door track. We did make a little piece of flashing that goes over the track on the outside
love your camera skills
I love the bird feeder
"That's not a bandsaw."
*Rolls in the 950*
"That's a bandsaw!"
Great Video! Getting a 36 or 42 inch band saw is definitely on my bucket list. Every now and then could you do a video tour of the other machines in your shop?
Came here from Matthias Wandel ;)
Liked, subscribed
Always wanted to know how to you come across some of the machines you have. If you are like most guy's with a shop full of nice tool when you die you hope your wife doesn't sale them for the same amount as you told her you bought them for. Thanks for sharing Guy
Sorry if I just missed it, but if you haven't, could you do a video on your big disc sander?
$1000!!! Amazing deal!
Frank, thank you for sharing so much. I'm in the throws of designing mine (6m x 8m) using some of your ideas (hope you don't mind). As I have a slopping block I have to build mine on piers with bearers & joists and a timber floor.
One item that has me stumped though is the external sliding door.Do you have details as to how this was built and more importantly how you hung and secured it at the bottom.
Cheers
Hello Frank,
Wow, over 3 years since you published this and I finally found it going through your collection of videos, which I've become fascinated with :-). I used to work in a machine shop for Chrysler in Cape Canaveral back in the late 60's. We had a large band saw in the shop that had a blade welder built onto it so we could repair a blade when we broke one. What do you do for broken blades, or have you never broken one? ;-)
Big buddy!
Am I miscalculating something or the blade really goes at 7500FPM?
I see this bandsaw making very nice cuts in your very well made videos, it makes to find out why :)
I don't know what is the case, but on my bandsaw (2000FPM) I get pretty bad cuts, especially with thicker pieces of hardwood.
You should do a video on your dewalt radial arm saws
Hi Frank,
I have a couple of questions for you. I just bought a 42 inch Fay and Egan bandsaw and am interested in your build of the gantry crane. Did you do a video of it? Also what casters did you use for the cart that you used to wheel your saw into place? I also have a unrelated question for you. Did you happen to be in the Army in the early 80's? You look like someone I meet in boot camp. Thanks for your great woodworking videos. Chuck Nichter of Montana
+shilo186259422 I have not done a video for the gantry crane yet, it is the most requested video, so i will do one. the cart had 6 of these: www.grizzly.com/products/6-Heavy-Duty-Swivel-Caster-w-Brake/G8178
I was in intermediate school and high school in the 80's
+frank howarth Thanks for responding , it is appreciated. Sorry I tried to make you older than you are :)
WAW
Great video. Do you have any info on how you made your gantry crane?
I have a rotary phase converter. TEMCo 6500-15kw
Isn't it very inefficient? I mean, it is old and huge :D Still, very nice thing to have in such a beautiful workshop.
You gave a thousand dollars for it thats one good deal.... I have a 19 inch grizzly I gave A Thousand for it 10 years ago.... They are beautiful machine though
Frank, what a great find.
A few questions please: 1. How is the vibration with the direct drive motor (the machine seems pretty heavy for it to be much concern)? 2. Did the saw require any repair when you got it? 3. Are parts difficult to find?
Thanks Frank.
It needs new tires other than that it is in great shape. No real vibration, I think new tires would help wider blades track better and making it run even smoother.
First of all, I really enjoy your channel. The production is great and I'm envious of your shop. I'm not a safety freak, by any means. However, as a guy who nearly lost a thumb on a bandsaw, you should look into some safety info. For instance: www.cs.rpi.edu/twiki/pub/RoboticsWeb/WebFacilities/BandsawSafety.pdf
Thanks again, and keep up the good work.
shazam!
nice saw and great video. mind telling me a bit about how you make the videos?
what kid of camera? is it all natural shop lighting?
what about audio? inspires me to make some of my own vids...
a little, I need new tyres and the guides could use upgrading.
they don't make them like this anymore...nowdays everything is plastic aluminium or other crappy materials that don't pass the test of time like this one... congrats for buying this
Where do you buy the blades for your larger pieces of equipment?
Sweet, I notice you have a bunch of three phase stuff, did you run 3 ph to your shop or do you use a converter for all your 3 ph motors?
I have a rotary phase converter.
I have a question on the tires on your big band saw. I was hoping if you could tell me if they are crowned or flat? The reason I ask is that I just acquired a 36 Centauro Bandsaw and the tires are in bad shape but I am finding conflicting information on wether or not they should be crowned when I replace them. These are rubber tires not polyurethane
They are rutted and need replacing, I am in the same boat you are in.
After a little inspection, it looks like they were flat, maybe a tiny amount of crown. I think the previous owner ran a lot of thin blades on it (1/4") an now the center is grooved.
you should paint it to look more like an acorn. I think it looks like one already..
i wanna hear it start up
I have a similar but 30 years older Tannewitz. Do you see any merit in bedding these big boys in hydraulic cement?
I know you probably wouldn't like to modify a piece of history like that bandsaw Frank but have you ever considered milling a slot in the table?