Janet Lynn 1968 Olympics - at the microphone: Eva Pawlik

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  • At the microphone: the 1948 Olympic runner-up Eva Pawlik. Pawlik (who happened to be the world's First lady to be a TV figure skating commentator) underlined in her commentary Janet Lynn´s enormous artistic abilities. I was asked to translate my mother´s commentary for the non German speaking audience:
    "Though participating for the first time at Olympics or Worlds Janet Lynn is well known to us. Last year, she did some training in Switzerland (Davos) and then came to Vienna where the Worlds took place. Lynn did not participate but showed her free program at a skating exhibition in Vienna. We were all deeply impressed by the enormous artistic abilities of the then 13-year-old girl.
    She is extremely fit. When practising she skates her free programme three times non-stop without getting tired. These 12 minutes are by far longer than a normal free programme at the men´s events which lasts 5 minutes.
    Delayed axel. Double axel. Double flip. Inside axel (in German the sort of axel landed on the inside edge is called inside axel). Double lutz.
    Triple salchow, though not perfect (but nevertheless - after the sounding of Pawlik´s voice when mentioning it - a small sensation).
    Her greatness is her style (special emphasis on the word „style" in the sounding of Pawlik´s voice). Other young skaters may be technically brilliant as well but it is the charisma they lack. Lynn, however, though only 14 years old, has already developed her artistic abilities almost completely. Double salchow.
    Perhaps Peggy Fleming is Lynn´s role model as Fleming also skates remarkably fluently. Lynn is skating in a certain sense undemonstratively, without using her arms and hands to be able to overcome technical difficulties as other skaters tend to do.
    Double axel and double loop (in German: Rittberger) as a combination.
    Double toe-loop. Double lutz. Flying sit spin.
    In the end of her commentary Pawlik once again underlined Lynn´s ease and effortlessness in her skating and admired Janet showing several walley jumps - in both directions! - and one more double axel even in the very ending of her program.
    An outstanding free skating!"
    Janet Lynn´s Kür bei den Olympischen Spielen in Grenoble (1968). Am Mikrophon: die Olympiazweite von 1948, Dr. Eva Pawlik. Pawlik unterstrich die künstlerischen Fähigkeiten, die Janet Lynn als erst 14jährige trotz ihrer Jugend schon fast voll entwickelt hatte.
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  • @sallybutton6237
    @sallybutton6237 Год назад +6

    I was five in 1968..wish I could go back there everyday.

  • @twilightblue8566
    @twilightblue8566 Год назад +13

    Janet Lynn was always a ballerina on ice no matter where she placed. She was a joy to watch and so graceful. She has always been one of my favorite all-time figure skaters.

  • @user-bz5hw6rn5z
    @user-bz5hw6rn5z Год назад +5

    Этой записи55лет,как имне,это удивительно!

  • @fitgraphisva
    @fitgraphisva 11 лет назад +50

    This program is LOADED with content! Ahh...the energy of a 14-year-old. Did you notice she tries to throw a triple Salchow halfway through? Not sure how many of the ladies attempted that back in 1968. Cheers!

    • @Ronizetti
      @Ronizetti 6 лет назад +3

      fitgraphisva - Indeed, Peggy barely attempted doubles!! (and lets not discuss their landings)

    • @Person-mh6xq
      @Person-mh6xq 4 года назад +10

      @@Ronizetti That is incorrect. Peggy's programs had the exact same basic content. Her programs included ALL doubles including two double axels in every program.

    • @danahatzimichaels1190
      @danahatzimichaels1190 Год назад +4

      Fitgrahisva her control of her movements is incredible, especially given her tender years here.

    • @patmcgillivray1926
      @patmcgillivray1926 Год назад +1

      Petra Burke did a triple salchow

    • @waynehentley4332
      @waynehentley4332 Год назад +2

      @@Ronizetti Obviously a Peggy hater!!

  • @ballinagra13
    @ballinagra13 15 лет назад +49

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing this. I have idolized Janet Lynn's skating for more than 40 years, and despaired of ever seeing programs like this again. I am thrilled that Janet's 1968 Olympic program is saved for posterity, as I was afraid it was lost forever.

    • @thomaslucia3059
      @thomaslucia3059 Год назад +8

      She was my favorite for so many years. She had such beautiful line and grace, and her layback is one of the very best ever. Seeing this video brings me back and makes me want to return to those more innocent years - years when the skating was becoming more artistic and athletes like Janet, John Curry and Toller Cranston filled the arenas with amazing beauty and the excitement of their unique styles.

    • @genlyai5055
      @genlyai5055 Год назад +2

      She was a divinity.

  • @paulamiles9559
    @paulamiles9559 Год назад +9

    Thank you so much for this! I've never seen film of Janet Lynn skating before. She is an angel- flying and floating over the ice.

  • @bettycurry6752
    @bettycurry6752 4 месяца назад +1

    The most important lady skater of her time…..lovely…..

  • @kathycarlson7947
    @kathycarlson7947 Год назад +4

    Thank you for posting! I remember that routine, but I thought it was lost. I'm a fan from her hometown.

  • @merrywivesofwindsor
    @merrywivesofwindsor 10 лет назад +7

    So pretty and graceful, thank you for posting this

  • @blueclover9918
    @blueclover9918 2 года назад +16

    No one lands as smoothly as Janet. She just floats. No scratching, no under rotations. Just smooth landings

  • @wendellroden7037
    @wendellroden7037 Год назад +2

    Woah double axel / double loop combo!! In 1968? Wow!

  • @faeryquene
    @faeryquene 13 лет назад +19

    Janet seems much freer, more avant garde in her movements and music (Afternoon of the Faun) than Peggy. Fleming was the last I think of the old style of skating which seemed a bit more static in the upper body, and general choreo/expression.

    • @sadjaxx
      @sadjaxx Год назад +2

      My memories of Peggy Fleming was a lot of swooping around. Much less athletic than Janet Lynn.

  • @sheilabloom6735
    @sheilabloom6735 Год назад +3

    I loved loved her. Am I mistaken but I saw her with one arm in the air. That would have been very rare.

  • @carmenjuarez4642
    @carmenjuarez4642 2 года назад +3

    I wish I could have seen her skate she skated so soft and elegant 😍

  • @user-pn4il1qb3q
    @user-pn4il1qb3q Год назад +13

    Мы так далеко шагнули, а когда это тоже был шедевр. И мы им восхищались и это надо помнить.

    • @user-iq2fx8jc9n
      @user-iq2fx8jc9n Год назад +2

      как далеко? не так много элементов придумано с тех пор. Скорость прибавилась. Пируэты некоторые появились, например, Дэнис Билльман. Откатала программу Линн чудненько и плавненько - было интересно смотреть - уровень отличный. Мне, например, совершенно не интересно смотреть нанешнее фигурное катание - ничего интересного. Последние, кого смотреда с удовольствием - это наши Плющенко, Ягудин, Сихарулидзе с Бережной, американка Мишель кван...Дальше - пурга с быстрее-выше-сильнее.

    • @user-bk1ez9wx8f
      @user-bk1ez9wx8f Год назад

      @@user-iq2fx8jc9n хоть я и делитант в ФК, но честно смотрела и мысли проскальзывали, а ведь ничего не поменялось, все то же самое и сейчас, да оборотов прыгают больше и если честно, то эстетически приятнее сиотреть чем сегодняшгих и чем то напомнило во многом в движениях школу Тутбиридце и мысль скользнула, а не отсюда ли они черпают ту красоту катания, тут все есть, и пластика и грация и и легкость и воздушность, завораживает! И ваш коммент читаю, как свои мысли мелькнувшие)) толтко более профссиональные терминологии знаете!

    • @swissskate70ies40
      @swissskate70ies40 Год назад +1

      ​@@user-iq2fx8jc9n I totally agree with your comment. Today's free skating is overloaded with acrobatic attempts, lacking artistry and personality. I highly respect to what extend they invest the outmost of their life. Apart from jumping, footworking has become extremly difficult, not compareble with former times. Perhaps 25% compulsories - who knows - would bring back a certain balance.

    • @user-iq2fx8jc9n
      @user-iq2fx8jc9n Год назад

      @@user-bk1ez9wx8f Тутберидзе тут нипричём - ничего нового она не изобрела. Поколение Плющенко, Ягудина Сихарулидзе были задолго до нее.

    • @user-iq2fx8jc9n
      @user-iq2fx8jc9n Год назад

      @@swissskate70ies40 yes...there is much acrobatic - and generally emptiness in FSkating - if not to bing back the beauty of former times, there will be the end of this kind of sport

  • @dvdneely
    @dvdneely 15 лет назад +21

    she was - and is - truly incredible!

  • @sadjaxx
    @sadjaxx Год назад +1

    So smooth and strong. She was the best.

  • @gowanderlustwithme
    @gowanderlustwithme Год назад +8

    And people don’t realize that 60 percent of scoring was on school figures - hours and hours we spent on patch. All that time goes to freestyle and artistry now.

    • @pianomanofvienna
      @pianomanofvienna  Год назад +2

      Would say everyone interested in the history of skating is aware of what you say. ;-)

    • @twilightblue8566
      @twilightblue8566 Год назад +2

      Trouble is we did not even see the school figures being done. When Peggy Fleming won the Olympics in 1968, she was declared the winner before she even stepped out on the ice because she was so far ahead in her school figure scores.

    • @genlyai5055
      @genlyai5055 Год назад +1

      Everyone realizes that, dear, and everyone with a brain knows it was a catastrophe for them to trash compulsories. In every way.

  • @HattieLovesCattie
    @HattieLovesCattie 14 лет назад +7

    @ballinagra13 I'm so glad her skate from Sapporo is on YT now.I got to see her in person in NC in 1976.She was judging a kids skate at a mall ice rink ( for Easter Seals ) and was like 7 months pregnan with her first sont.She looked so tired so I didn't get up the nerve to ask her for her autograph.

  • @sedekiman824
    @sedekiman824 5 месяцев назад

    The most exquisite of skaters. For me she embodied the spirit of skating, and kindred spirit was John Curry.

  • @DemonsSister
    @DemonsSister Год назад +5

    With quads, skating is almost unwatchable these days. The technical aspects have taken all the grace out of it. It is so depressing.

  • @user-os1dh2yk2n
    @user-os1dh2yk2n Год назад +6

    Так леко, так плавно, она правда пархает надо льдом, я восхищена, это потрясающе!!!!!!

  • @user-to5kk1cc1r
    @user-to5kk1cc1r 2 года назад +5

    50年以上前の動画ですか?
    この頃には今のスケーティングの基礎が出来上がってたのが凄い!

  • @j3d354
    @j3d354 Год назад

    Beautiful graceful Janet Lynn

  • @lubomirteren9851
    @lubomirteren9851 2 года назад +4

    Janet.love.💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘

    • @lubomirteren9851
      @lubomirteren9851 2 года назад +1

      Jannet.💘💘💘👍🇸🇰🇸🇰🇸🇰.Slovakia.ich Ľubomír.💘💘💘💘💘💘🥰

  • @michaelshelley1289
    @michaelshelley1289 Год назад +1

    she was one of the best in the world!!!!

  • @rinrin7120
    @rinrin7120 2 года назад +3

    この動画とは違いますが札幌オリンピックでのジャネットリンちゃん観ました。
    とても可愛らしかったです。😃

  • @lindafiatoa3203
    @lindafiatoa3203 Год назад +2

    She makes it look effortless.

    • @pianomanofvienna
      @pianomanofvienna  Год назад

      Yes!!! So you have the same opinion as the commentator. 👍

  • @jillinois100
    @jillinois100 13 лет назад +4

    @faeryquene Yeah- back then they had so much time devoted to compulsory figures that some of the stuff we see today wasn't even considered :)

  • @dalian9341
    @dalian9341 Год назад

    وه مدري كيف وصلت هنا بس واو اللون و التصوير
    واهم شي اللاعبة حركاتها مثالية و مسرة للعين 🦋🦋🦋🦋

  • @nondescriptnyc
    @nondescriptnyc 2 года назад +7

    Of course, this is a delightful performance, full of youthful energy! What I love about seeing this performance, though, is that you can clearly see how she improved and matured steadily after this competition, toward the 1972 Games. Here, her lines weren’t refined, her edges weren’t as crisp or controlled, her skating was generally tentative, her moves weren’t fully extended, and her jumps and spins were clearly still under development. This shows that she worked VERY hard to achieve the level of refinement, control, and so on to realize her potential by 1972-and I absolutely LOVE that.
    [Unlike what some are saying, thus, I don’t think her overall skating was strong enough here to challenge Peggy Fleming here or for a string of 6.0s…at all…given the areas of improvement I’ve noted.]

    • @angelaloof852
      @angelaloof852 Год назад +1

      I get so tired of the nitpicking of skaters’ every move. It’s beautiful to watch and I’m sorry you miss out on that.

    • @nondescriptnyc
      @nondescriptnyc Год назад +3

      @@angelaloof852 Glass half empty vs. glass half full, I suppose. My comment emphasized what an incredible improvement she made following this performance. If you took it as nitpicking and uninformed (that I missed out on something), I am sorry you took it that way. When skaters have extraordinary lines, superb presentation, and/or overall outstanding fundamentals in FS, they typically tend to start out that way (e.g., Lisa Marie Allen, Yuka Sato, etc.) but Janet Lynn has actually gone through a major transformation. She and her coach must have worked very hard-and, to me, that is a compliment rather than a criticism.

    • @ronronizetti2534
      @ronronizetti2534 Год назад +1

      Actually if you compare the two programs Janet had much more content and far greater execution (*Peggy herself will tell you it was far from her desired skate that day*), Janet had far more freedom, stylized and athletic ease. Both had bobbles, but the more complete program execution was Janet. Peggy is VERY lucky figures were Janet's nemesis!!

    • @angelaloof852
      @angelaloof852 Год назад

      @@nondescriptnyc not me. I just commented on the attire of gymnasts.

    • @genlyai5055
      @genlyai5055 Год назад +2

      A) Fleming RARELY skated her best under pressure. Her Olympics performance (68) was tentative, scared, and full of poorly landed jumps/omitted rotations. Her best performance on video was the US Nationals a month or two earlier than that Olympics. She was VERY lucky that Seyfert's compulsories were not anywhere near hers, just as with Lynn. Fleming would never win now that compulsories have been trashed. B) Lynn is already at least as artistic as Fleming in this performance. Period.

  • @sarajanesmith3892
    @sarajanesmith3892 Год назад +1

    I had a Janet Lynn haircut!

  • @poorthing
    @poorthing 2 года назад +1

    14? oh my!

  • @user-lw4bi8rh2k
    @user-lw4bi8rh2k 2 года назад +5

    Так тихонько аккуратненько и очень даже танцевально...понравилось...кто знает о ней больше напишите....интересно узнать....

    • @lindafiatoa3203
      @lindafiatoa3203 Год назад

      She wrote a book, I think it's called _Peace + Love, Janet Lynn_ or something like that. Probably out of print. But you might be able to get it used.

    • @user-yb1pm3nl1d
      @user-yb1pm3nl1d Год назад

      в описании под видео написано о ней и её стиле катания

  • @helenakinsman9494
    @helenakinsman9494 Год назад

    This was a bit befire my time.
    But the quality is pretty good.
    Much better than i rxpected.

  • @user-ff2il3mj7g
    @user-ff2il3mj7g Год назад

    大好き💓♥️❤️だった。笑顔アップを見たい。

  • @Ronizetti
    @Ronizetti 6 лет назад +10

    Peggy WHO!?!? ... Fleming was fortunate to have age and good figures in her favor, for this FOURTEEN year old girl certainly outskated her that night!! How Flemings skate garnered 5.9's remains a mystery!?! - in that case Lynn deserved all 6.0!

    • @barbarawilcox182
      @barbarawilcox182 Год назад +1

      Janet two-footed a couple of jumps here, including her second 2A. I agree it was beautiful and deserved a higher placement.

    • @lindafiatoa3203
      @lindafiatoa3203 Год назад

      @@barbarawilcox182 if this was at Grenoble, she was sick with the flu. The medicine that would work was banned by the Olympic committee and the medicine they did approve didn't do Jack for her. Finally, her father, a pharmacist, said give her the banned medicine and forfeit if you have to.
      So she probably wasn't 100% here.

    • @waynehentley4332
      @waynehentley4332 Год назад +1

      @@barbarawilcox182 Not possible. Janet was very young and far back after compulsory figures. The judges held back the top marks for the top skaters after compulsories.

    • @Laura22_new
      @Laura22_new Год назад +2

      Peggy “who”? Peggy Fleming, that’s who. Putting down Peggy doesn’t make Janet shine brighter, and vice versa. There’s no need to compare. Both are highly accomplished athletes and inspiring women. Get a life.

    • @waynehentley4332
      @waynehentley4332 Год назад

      @@Laura22_new Thnks! There are ppl who haven't gotten over the fact that Janet never won a World or Olympic gold medal!!!

  • @dorothytaylor7830
    @dorothytaylor7830 2 года назад +5

    What's the problem. This young lady did at least 12 jumps during her performance. Why did the judges and commentators complain about Surya Bonaly's 4th jumps saying the ladies are only allowed 3 jumps in a competition? Really? 🤨

    • @nondescriptnyc
      @nondescriptnyc 2 года назад +3

      Different rules. After this, Short Programs were introduced in the 1973 season, and in 1981, the scoring system went through a major change, moving to the Factored Placement system. Besides these major changes, minor changes occurred each year. FYI, there was no limit on the number of jumps skaters could perform in FS until the current rule went into effect in 2006 (well after Ms. Bonaly retired), so you seem to be misremembering that particular issue about 4 jumps. Generally, the judges and, more importantly, the skating audience “complained” about Ms. Bonaly b/c she had abysmal basic skills-with shallow and messy edges, little control, and very little speed-and even her jumps were of poor quality without much flow.

    • @ronronizetti2534
      @ronronizetti2534 Год назад +2

      You may be remembering a SHORT program/s which historically had requirements/limitations placed upon them (combination/double/triple-no repeated jump etc.) Free/Long programs in Bonaly's day had no such restrictions.

    • @waynehentley4332
      @waynehentley4332 Год назад

      Nonsense!! You made that all up! No one ever complained about '4th jumps'.

    • @laurallewien2165
      @laurallewien2165 Год назад

      Surya Bonaley was a pure joy to watch...she ate up the ice and made it her own, thanks for the comment Dorothy 😊

    • @waynehentley4332
      @waynehentley4332 Год назад

      @@laurallewien2165 A good one!!🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-vh6fg8ep8t
    @user-vh6fg8ep8t 2 года назад +1

    私のフィギュアスケート沼の原点

  • @s3587
    @s3587 2 года назад +1

    2:06トリプル・ルッツ完璧!?

  • @kenshiyukiwano8
    @kenshiyukiwano8 Год назад

    fairy!

  • @viktoriaironpride4977
    @viktoriaironpride4977 Год назад

    She was supposed to take over after Peggy Fleming retired. Too bad she didn't make it.

    • @skatefan9495
      @skatefan9495 Год назад +6

      She did. She won 5 US championships in a row and an Olympic bronze medal.