This might be a of hot take but I actually love the Pirate style headband for Raphael, it really fits his gruff and tough personality so well ,and personally I hope they keep giving him that headband to him in newer versions too
Personally, I think it only works when Raph himself is big, like in the Bay movies or Rise. In the case of Mutant Mayhem and the Fortnite skin, it doesn't work as well.
The OG animated series and the first live-action versions are the goats in my book currently, but there's been fun ones in some of the other shows and movies too
Fun fact that you missed about 90s Raph, he actually has a few injuries on the back of his shell if you look closely. It's not noticeable when you're not paying attention, but I think it's a great detail.
For me rise Raph is S tier, I love the snapping turtle idea because snapping turtles are very aggressive, and I just relate to that Raphael being the older brother.
Raphael in Rise looks so cringe to me. I like the idea of the snapping turtle Raphael but to me the whole show in general is a step down comparable to Teen Titans 2003 to Teen Titans Go. Cringe unbearable episodes. #notmyturtles. same with the new ninja turtle movie except the movie is a lot worse and unwatchable.
Im gonna be honest im not a fan of the copy and paste turtles with different colors and weapons The more recent designs like 2018 are S tier , you can tell his personality just by one look at him, he’s the muscle of the group hes rash and rowdy and snappy like a, well snapping turtle It just expands on the base concept really well and the fact that you can tell how he carries himself with one glimpse is a sign on good character design
I love the last 4 Raph design. 2012 Raph really was a great design, short and defined, with those green eyes. One of my favorite parts of the show. Rise is so much fun, stylized and ginormous. I wouldn't recommend ever doing something like that again, but it is actually my favorite Raph design ever. The Batman design was really gruff looking, really adds to the Raphael vibes, and looked cool in that style. The Mutant Mayhem one is my 3rd favorite, also very stylized. He was visibly more muscular than his brothers, which added to it a lot.
I'm gonna be bias when I say that my favourite design is the original 2003 Raph. It's classic, simplistic and looks strong. I just love the design. And I do agree that the full head covering bandana isn't my thing.
the Michael Bay Raph is my favorite. I always liked how he was larger than the other turtles. I also like how each turtle is noticeably different looking, making them more unique. prob my fav tmnt look.
Couldn't agree more on your S and A rankings. The 1987/2003 cartoons and 90s live-action movies (especially when the suits were done by Jim Henson's Creature Shop) are still among my top favorite TMNT iterations as well design-wise, and the Batman vs TMNT and Mutant Mayhem movies are the most that I've liked design-wise out of the Nickelodeon era of TMNT stuff so far.
Man I wish you’d do this sort of stuff with villains or allies designs. Turtles are always slightly different but other characters are radically redesigned
When it comes to the cartoons I’d probably go with the 2003 design being my favorite followed by the 2012 design. The 1987 design ain’t bad in my opinion,it’s just not my favorite. As far as live-action,imma go with the original movie design.But when it comes down to his 2007 film look vs his mutant mayhem look,kinda tough for me to decide. Obviously the 2007 design looks more mature while mutant mayhem looks very young. However,it works because they are young teenagers and Seth Rogan wanted to focus on the adolescent aspect of the turtles in that film. At the end of the day,good design or bad design,Raphael will always be my favorite turtle.
Me too :) I think most people like the formula to stay the same, which is 1000% understandable, but I like the unique and creative twists. I think Rise does a great job of taking a bunch of liberty with design and characterization and STILL making me think "this is Ninja Turtles" in the end. Nostalgia is good, but new and different isn't bad either. The inclusion of both the old and the new in Rise is reeeeeaalllyyy facinating and satisfying to me. Raph's design in particular, I love the shapes and angular spikiness and bulk. It's a very satisfying look to me as an artist. Plus I love that he's huge haha, I personally quite enjoy that new element and the dynamic with his brothers
I kind of wish you mentioned that the Rock Star turtles didn't have shells. I think that earned them their own tier separate from the Christmas turtles. They got a Z tier on that thing?
It's funny how people complained that the 2003 turtles looked like they were on steroids back then. They only had to wait 11 years to see what that really looked like.
The OG cartoon and the 1990 live action should both be top tear because that’s why it all started for cartoon and for live action, and they were simply just the best
didn’t the mirage 1984 turtles have the type of frog legs that you mentioned with the 2007 movie. but this tier list is accurate to me so I like it.good video
I feel like more people are afraid to admit that those designs are some of the best to ever come out for the turtles just because of the director and the writing of the movie
We are almost of the same mind here! 😄 I Liked your explanations and I do agree with you. I love Raphael, especially the s-rank versions you chose. Well done! 👍"I love being a turtle!"
Hold on let me nerd out for a min rise raph has that symbol on his belt to stand for the mad dogs which is the team name they had before they thought up of the teenage mutant ninja turtles in the movie
Ik we all have our own opinions but it’s hard to see anybody not liking the full head band a for Ralph, it fits so well and should be a staple to the character going forward. I can understand people not liking Raph being the size of hulk but he should always be at least a little more muscly and taller then his brothers, he doesn’t have to be gigantic tho
My favorite animation styles are from the 2012 from the Nickelodeon show and the TMNT Vs Batman movie are my favorite hands down 😭. The 2003 animation style was equally great before the upgrades.
I fully disagree with you when it comes to tank/brute build Raphael’s I think it keeps him apart from his brothers and that’s a good thing in my opinion. But it is just opinions after all. Same with the Bay Turtle designs as well, I prefer them to the TMNT 2 - TMNT 3 live action movie designs and I’d put him in a solid A Tier for my list. I grew up with that design so I guess it’s just what I like. Lol
Not really sure why some turtle fans despise change, tbh the turtles having different body types and accessories is what makes turtle designs fun, not having them be palette swapped versions of eachother. Ralph with a bandana is one of the best changes to ever happen to the character and should be the status quo going forward, just like Donnie having glasses/goggles. I think he just doesn’t like certain things because he grew up with the palette swap turtles
Fr, especially when it comes to ROTTMNT. The only complaints and criticism that I hear about the designs (and the show in general) is that it's different. Which is not a bad thing at all (at least in this case). In fact, it just shows how much love and creativity was put into ROTTMNT. Instead of copy and paste designs, they came up with something more refreshing and even more cooler looking imo. If the tmnt community doesn't like the designs, they should at least acknowledge the love that was put into them. The crew did an amazing job and I wish more people appreciated their work more.
Please Turtle Den, could you please make a video ranking your favorite designs in TMNT comics? From the 1984 Mirage designs to the latest in the IDW comics. Thanks in advance!
i rly liked 2012. grew up with it. dad and his brother grew up with original, comments, first live and ect. i like how they all ended, but 2012? the whole mutant shredder just kinda was dumb. i don’t remember s5, but ive seen clips. i get its good for kids to understand death happens and its ok to cry.. but just? they could’ve done anything else i feel.
I am absolutely in love with the 2014 designs, instead of looking cartoonish in real life type of thing, they actually went with them looking like real turtles that got mutated (that’s just me) but ig I just don’t like the cartoonish irl aspects, it’s like doing the cartoon transformers, but in irl it just wouldn’t look right 😭 (again only my opinion, I respect you not like it, I do understand why)
The first live action movies with the suits honestly freak me out with the way the mouth moves and stuff like that, plus u can tell they are costumes, but then again movies weren’t as advance as they are now, I’m just pointing out what makes them creepy. It’s like a chucky cheese costume but green and no ears 😰
call me crazy but the michael bay ninja turtle designs are my absolute favorite designs ever for all the turtles. its so sick to me and i love all the small details and gear and stuff
Honestly, I think them starting to cover the whole top of his head starting with the 2014 movie is kinda getting old. It was fine for that movie. And it fit RotTMNT, but once I saw it in Rise how he looked like the 2014 version of himself, and then even in Mutant Mayhem he had it, I was like "This isn't gonna be a permanent change is it?" I think his 2003, 2007 and 2012 looks are the best. The original classics are too cutesy, the original live action movies are cool to see how life-like they are but the designs of the heads do hold them back a tad. I actually think the 2012 does their head shapes the most justice in a 3D space. It just looks the most appealing and natural.
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This might be a of hot take but I actually love the Pirate style headband for Raphael, it really fits his gruff and tough personality so well ,and personally I hope they keep giving him that headband to him in newer versions too
I think he the only one who can wear that and look great in it 😊
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Mikey can pull it off
@@mirtaabreu7124 Agreed.
Personally, I think it only works when Raph himself is big, like in the Bay movies or Rise. In the case of Mutant Mayhem and the Fortnite skin, it doesn't work as well.
The OG animated series and the first live-action versions are the goats in my book currently, but there's been fun ones in some of the other shows and movies too
Will you make the animated variants of Ninja turtles?
WASSS UPP
Agree. Also, I can't stand what they've done to Michaelangelos personality. He is supposed to be a California surfer dude
Yay it’s tellitAnimated
In 2014, Rafael should be at a
For me 2012 turtles is S tier.They did very good job with the design.They look badass in that show.Specially in the action scenes.
yea
feels like all the younger ones are just biased for the most recent adaptation
Facts 2012 was the best show, and one of the best character designs
@madelinemcmillan4020 bro the 2012 show came out 12 years ago. And let's not forget about people that are biased for the 87 show
@madelinemcmillan4020 there is much more bias towards the 87 design than the others and 2012 was more than a decade ago
I grew up with the 2012 version but honestly I really like the 2003 and 2007 designs the most
bro thats me also 😂
i grew up with both. i agree but i think 2012 was a better story for me. but i love the 2007 styles
I really think the 2003 Raph is the best, because this version is relatively mature compared to other versions
Yep alongside his heavy NY accent & dark green, it makes Raph feel more gritty/badass. That & 1990 film are best ones imo
Fun fact that you missed about 90s Raph, he actually has a few injuries on the back of his shell if you look closely. It's not noticeable when you're not paying attention, but I think it's a great detail.
Yes, I noticed it from day one. I gives him a past of many solo fights. Perhaps they could be slash marks from Leo's Katanas?
I mean, in the tnmt franchise leo and raph fight alot
For me rise Raph is S tier, I love the snapping turtle idea because snapping turtles are very aggressive, and I just relate to that Raphael being the older brother.
Raphael in Rise looks so cringe to me. I like the idea of the snapping turtle Raphael but to me the whole show in general is a step down comparable to Teen Titans 2003 to Teen Titans Go. Cringe unbearable episodes. #notmyturtles. same with the new ninja turtle movie except the movie is a lot worse and unwatchable.
@@user-wx1kt6rb3r and that’s okay. That’s your opinion.
@@djorgedelgado Yeah no shit. thats why I said “to me” twice.
@@user-wx1kt6rb3r eat a snickers bar and calm down
@@user-wx1kt6rb3r okay, I know that. And I’m saying I agree with you. You don’t gotta be a dick about it
Im gonna be honest im not a fan of the copy and paste turtles with different colors and weapons
The more recent designs like 2018 are S tier , you can tell his personality just by one look at him, he’s the muscle of the group hes rash and rowdy and snappy like a, well snapping turtle
It just expands on the base concept really well and the fact that you can tell how he carries himself with one glimpse is a sign on good character design
The original TMNT live action movie nailed the eyes. They have depth and the glares off the pupils make them like so lively and soulful
His attitude is what made him special
I love the last 4 Raph design. 2012 Raph really was a great design, short and defined, with those green eyes. One of my favorite parts of the show. Rise is so much fun, stylized and ginormous. I wouldn't recommend ever doing something like that again, but it is actually my favorite Raph design ever. The Batman design was really gruff looking, really adds to the Raphael vibes, and looked cool in that style. The Mutant Mayhem one is my 3rd favorite, also very stylized. He was visibly more muscular than his brothers, which added to it a lot.
TMNT 1990 wins every top ten.
I'm gonna be bias when I say that my favourite design is the original 2003 Raph. It's classic, simplistic and looks strong. I just love the design. And I do agree that the full head covering bandana isn't my thing.
I haven't rewatched the 2003 cartoon but have fond memories. Also the game for that series was a fun beat 'em up!
Raphael looks awesome in TMNT out of the shadows movie 😊
The og movie designs are such classics, i have to go with those as my favorites
You can tell he is a true fan.
This is my favorite turtle
the Michael Bay Raph is my favorite. I always liked how he was larger than the other turtles. I also like how each turtle is noticeably different looking, making them more unique. prob my fav tmnt look.
Couldn't agree more on your S and A rankings. The 1987/2003 cartoons and 90s live-action movies (especially when the suits were done by Jim Henson's Creature Shop) are still among my top favorite TMNT iterations as well design-wise, and the Batman vs TMNT and Mutant Mayhem movies are the most that I've liked design-wise out of the Nickelodeon era of TMNT stuff so far.
Man I wish you’d do this sort of stuff with villains or allies designs. Turtles are always slightly different but other characters are radically redesigned
When it comes to the cartoons I’d probably go with the 2003 design being my favorite followed by the 2012 design. The 1987 design ain’t bad in my opinion,it’s just not my favorite. As far as live-action,imma go with the original movie design.But when it comes down to his 2007 film look vs his mutant mayhem look,kinda tough for me to decide. Obviously the 2007 design looks more mature while mutant mayhem looks very young. However,it works because they are young teenagers and Seth Rogan wanted to focus on the adolescent aspect of the turtles in that film. At the end of the day,good design or bad design,Raphael will always be my favorite turtle.
I REALLYYY like rise design
Me too :) I think most people like the formula to stay the same, which is 1000% understandable, but I like the unique and creative twists. I think Rise does a great job of taking a bunch of liberty with design and characterization and STILL making me think "this is Ninja Turtles" in the end. Nostalgia is good, but new and different isn't bad either. The inclusion of both the old and the new in Rise is reeeeeaalllyyy facinating and satisfying to me. Raph's design in particular, I love the shapes and angular spikiness and bulk. It's a very satisfying look to me as an artist. Plus I love that he's huge haha, I personally quite enjoy that new element and the dynamic with his brothers
@@myrap3 couldn't agree more
I would also add that i love gentle giants and he could just be my favorite one
@@NoOne-lc8qj Same here, 100% haha
I kind of wish you mentioned that the Rock Star turtles didn't have shells. I think that earned them their own tier separate from the Christmas turtles. They got a Z tier on that thing?
Daaaaaaamn, Next Mutation Raph gettin' done DIRTY. One of the best designs he's ever had.
I think u should have included voice as a part of their design because that’s very important
Raphael is the strongest turtle. Got Sean Astin's and Rob Paulsen's autograph on a Raphael POP.
It's funny how people complained that the 2003 turtles looked like they were on steroids back then. They only had to wait 11 years to see what that really looked like.
This is great, I love this style of content, you should do more!
100%
YESS!!! I missed the ranking videos. I love them
The OG cartoon and the 1990 live action should both be top tear because that’s why it all started for cartoon and for live action, and they were simply just the best
If you do a Donatello one. Don't forget to include the Direct Line Donni.
D Tier for Rise Raph is CRIMINAL, hes one of the best designs out of the turtles I’ve seen.
The best one, as a name that doesnt end in an o
Ha! Good joke/reference
Ten flips! Now!
1990s imperfections is what people loved about it it was my favorite movie as kid the imperfections makes feel more real
How is the michael bay cgi better than next mutation textures?
didn’t the mirage 1984 turtles have the type of frog legs that you mentioned with the 2007 movie.
but this tier list is accurate to me so I like it.good video
This was really cool seeing this. Would you be willing to do one on Splinter? I think that would be interesting to see.
Can't wait to see the Leonardo rankings!
Love all versions of him 2012 is one of my favorite
The Michael bay designs are the definitive versions of the turtles for me
I feel like more people are afraid to admit that those designs are some of the best to ever come out for the turtles just because of the director and the writing of the movie
The big calves and forearms are inspired by tortoise limbs, not frogs.
You forgot the Out of the Shadows game designs.
He's only gonna do ones from shows and movies
That's what I was thinking, those aren't frog limbs they are how real turtles limbs are
7:48 As a huge lifelong Godzilla fan I can relate to you on that.
The Michael bay version of the turtles just looks like ADULT MUTANT NINJA TURTLES
We are almost of the same mind here! 😄
I Liked your explanations and I do agree with you. I love Raphael, especially the s-rank versions you chose.
Well done! 👍"I love being a turtle!"
I don’t consider those liver spots, I always thought of them as freckles, they are teenagers not Father Time like Splinter.
23:52 this is not the movie version of Raphael. All the rise turtles got a power upgrade during the season 2 finale.
You gotta admit that the 2014 designs are kinda cool
Grew up with 2003 but 2012 is the best by far. Everything else is either too similar or wayy too different.
Can you do Rankings of other TMNT on-screen designs?
If you see the cover of the first Nintendo game made all the turtles are wearing red that is their original color
This is the PERFECT ranking.
S Tier - 1990 movie, Ooze, Red Sky, TMNT03,
A Tier - TMNT87,
B Tier - TMNT12, BvTMNT, TMNT3, TMNT07,
C Tier - NTNM, TMNTMM, BttS
D Tier - Concert Specials, Rise, FF
F Tier - bayturtles
Hold on let me nerd out for a min rise raph has that symbol on his belt to stand for the mad dogs which is the team name they had before they thought up of the teenage mutant ninja turtles in the movie
I just realised. There is one Raphael design missing from this vid.
Those concert/TMNT Xmas special designs look like if you mixed Fnaf with TMNT honestly that would be a good action figure crossover tho
Raph is the goat
Ik we all have our own opinions but it’s hard to see anybody not liking the full head band a for Ralph, it fits so well and should be a staple to the character going forward. I can understand people not liking Raph being the size of hulk but he should always be at least a little more muscly and taller then his brothers, he doesn’t have to be gigantic tho
I agree with Ralph being bigger than his brothers, but not absolutely gigantic compared to the rest.
My favorite animation styles are from the 2012 from the Nickelodeon show and the TMNT Vs Batman movie are my favorite hands down 😭. The 2003 animation style was equally great before the upgrades.
Putting mutant mayhem above 2007 one is just straight war crime
Oh no.... Where's rise Raph in the thumbnail? 😢❤️
I grew up with the 2007 turtles and I loved Raph's design in that movie. Especially his Nightwatcher outfit.
I fully disagree with you when it comes to tank/brute build Raphael’s I think it keeps him apart from his brothers and that’s a good thing in my opinion. But it is just opinions after all.
Same with the Bay Turtle designs as well, I prefer them to the TMNT 2 - TMNT 3 live action movie designs and I’d put him in a solid A Tier for my list. I grew up with that design so I guess it’s just what I like. Lol
Again the full bandana is still really awesome. They’re trying to make things different. And that’s a good thing
@@P3nguinOfMischiefthe full bandana is so cool for Raphael
Not really sure why some turtle fans despise change, tbh the turtles having different body types and accessories is what makes turtle designs fun, not having them be palette swapped versions of eachother. Ralph with a bandana is one of the best changes to ever happen to the character and should be the status quo going forward, just like Donnie having glasses/goggles. I think he just doesn’t like certain things because he grew up with the palette swap turtles
Im gonna have to agree with your rankings but I think the all look great knowing they are from different dimensions so its fine to me
1990 Raph was perfection. While some of the other designs had their charm, none could overtake it.
THE DOORAG IS ELITE
One of my favorite Turtles Short temperate Raphael 2003 is the best
Favorite versions of Raph are the 1987/red sky versions, the first live action movie & 2003 version
2007 should be 3 spots ahead
Three things i learned from this
1. You hate change
2. You're stuck in nostalgic
3. You want every turtle to look exactly the same
tmnt fans are so elitist istg. worst community by far
Fr, especially when it comes to ROTTMNT. The only complaints and criticism that I hear about the designs (and the show in general) is that it's different. Which is not a bad thing at all (at least in this case). In fact, it just shows how much love and creativity was put into ROTTMNT. Instead of copy and paste designs, they came up with something more refreshing and even more cooler looking imo. If the tmnt community doesn't like the designs, they should at least acknowledge the love that was put into them. The crew did an amazing job and I wish more people appreciated their work more.
Ngl i fw raph having the bandana look it fits him
Please Turtle Den, could you please make a video ranking your favorite designs in TMNT comics? From the 1984 Mirage designs to the latest in the IDW comics. Thanks in advance!
Which cartoon was the one found around 14:15?
i rly liked 2012. grew up with it. dad and his brother grew up with original, comments, first live and ect. i like how they all ended, but 2012? the whole mutant shredder just kinda was dumb. i don’t remember s5, but ive seen clips. i get its good for kids to understand death happens and its ok to cry.. but just? they could’ve done anything else i feel.
Gotta confess, I love the Next Mutation design, absolute B-tier for me. The show left a lot to be desired, but the design was great.
Whatever you like bud…………
Yeah too me it looked pretty good but the head but I guess it would look odd if it also didn't look muscular
I think Fortnite came out with their own TMNT designs if I’m not mistaken.
Nothing will ever top the designs they had in the 1990 movie.
Where are the ones at 14:17 from? I tried looking for them
those summer shorts in 2016. This one is called turtles in time. to me they are pefect designs.
I’m waiting for this video but for Donny.
I am absolutely in love with the 2014 designs, instead of looking cartoonish in real life type of thing, they actually went with them looking like real turtles that got mutated (that’s just me) but ig I just don’t like the cartoonish irl aspects, it’s like doing the cartoon transformers, but in irl it just wouldn’t look right 😭 (again only my opinion, I respect you not like it, I do understand why)
The first live action movies with the suits honestly freak me out with the way the mouth moves and stuff like that, plus u can tell they are costumes, but then again movies weren’t as advance as they are now, I’m just pointing out what makes them creepy. It’s like a chucky cheese costume but green and no ears 😰
Exactly
call me crazy but the michael bay ninja turtle designs are my absolute favorite designs ever for all the turtles. its so sick to me and i love all the small details and gear and stuff
The shell is called plastron schutes and carapace
Can't wait to see your videos on Donatello and Mikey. Just finished watching your video on Leo
22:04 You did good with the zooms! 😂
The torso front part of the shell is called a plastron,.the back part of the shell is called a carapace the side part of the shell is called schutes
2012 RAPH IS MY FAVORITE.
THEN 1990S
THEN THE OG TURTLE CARTOON
THEN RISE
Personally love the full bandana on him
I say MM Raph deserves to be in Tier S along with 2007 & 2012
As for Rise Raph, he deserves to be in Tier F both show & movie
Can you do Mikey next? He’s my fav🧡🧡
The best Turtle, love the Raph from the Michael Bay design but the attitude from the original movie
The current idw comic book versions of the team are a combo of each previous comic book and animated version of the team.
This is great man can you do another for the rest of the turtles
I am definitely like Raphael , the anger tempered one
the christmas special raph gives me the heebiejeebies
Honestly, I think them starting to cover the whole top of his head starting with the 2014 movie is kinda getting old. It was fine for that movie. And it fit RotTMNT, but once I saw it in Rise how he looked like the 2014 version of himself, and then even in Mutant Mayhem he had it, I was like "This isn't gonna be a permanent change is it?"
I think his 2003, 2007 and 2012 looks are the best.
The original classics are too cutesy, the original live action movies are cool to see how life-like they are but the designs of the heads do hold them back a tad.
I actually think the 2012 does their head shapes the most justice in a 3D space. It just looks the most appealing and natural.
My rankings would be exactly the same
Nice video
In the 2003 show season 3 episode 19 where the turtles gets sent to a different universe each Mikey is a a work where the turtles have super powers
Interesting🐢analysis...🤘🏼💯✔️
What about the mutant apocalypse design of raph in the 2012 show final season?