I bought an Aeromotive EFI conversion tank. It's the exact same tank from Tanks Inc, with different internals. Mine came fully assembled. I'm sure this is just as nice a tank, but it really should come assembled.
@@travisbruce1775 The idea is that every car is going to have a different tank but the pump and fuel level parts are all the same. So it's easier to send the customer their specific tank and then toss in the universal pump parts with some instructions. If the tanks came pre-assembled for everyone, you can count on the prices of these tanks to skyrocket, because it's now gonna be added labor for the manufacturer. In the end, it's just better for everyone if the customer doesn't complain and does the install themselves. They might learn something.
@@qx4n9e1xp 57 Chevy coupe Holley tank kit, $485 www.summitracing.com/parts/tnk-570-cg-kit/overview/make/chevrolet Aeromotive pre-assembled tank kit, $498 www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-18199/overview/make/avanti/model/ii Plus the aeromotive kit has a foam in-tank baffle(quieter/zero slosh). For $13 id much rather save time.
I agree! I went to order the Aeromotive one but its like 5 months backorder thru summit or jegs and dont have that time to waste so i bought the Sniper tank
Very helpful video! But notice if you have a tank that is less the around 7" on the depth, you cannot use the top screw in the rheostat housing. having the top screw in, does not allow you to get high enough for the correct measurement. (~5 minutes 11 secs). I also had to move the wire lug on the bottom, to the side to get the height I needed. Mine went in a 64 Nova. There are a number of things that have apparently upgraded or improved in the kit, sense this video was made. I still recommend it.
You bent the float arm assembly so it will fit down the hole with the rest of the fuel sender. I can see that it’s bent, you should have mentioned that in your video.
The video sure made it look easy. The way the level sender was adjusted in this video was way off and you bent the thing just to get it installed. The tank is full 1.5" above the height of the sensor unit. The rheostat needs to be much higher in the tank to be even close to giving a realistic reading and thus the bracket and plastic housing need to be modified quite a bit.
Hello and thanks for the great info. Is there a different kit for a carb return line set up? I use the Blue Holley external elect pump and want to plumb from the Holley Fuel regulator back to the tank. Appreciate any feedback from you or the people commenting. Thank you.
A few things... Some of the fuel pumps do not have such a nice power connector .... they have simple spade type of connectors (Seems a little sketchy to have live wires with a raw type of connection in contact with fuel. The gaskets are not rubber but cork. Not all pumps, with sock installed, will sit so nice and level. He does not put the sleeve over the fuel pump before zip tying the return tube.
Can u run the Holley Regulator/filter with this conversion tank to shorten up the return line? Install directions for regulator only mention in-line fuel pump. Want to use the stock OEM 3/8 “ hard line and not run a return line from engine bay.
What size and type fuel line and fittings do you get for the tank. I am doing a 1968 Camaro Conversion with the tank however I need to get the fittings and fuel line & return. There really is no kit I can find. Be nice if Holley included this with their tanks to simplify install.
A kit would be handy, but there are just too many variables to take into consideration making it very difficult to make a kit to work with everyone's needs. The sender has ¼” NPT Supply and Return line ports. You can use either barbed or AN style fittings. Use only high pressure rubber fuel line that is rated for EFI pressures like our Vapor Guard and quality EFI rated clamps. www.holley.com/products/plumbing_an_fittings_and_hose/hose/vapor_guard_hose/parts/762055ERL Or if you are planning on using AN fittings you can use any of our quality fuel line with the corresponding fittings. www.holley.com/brands/earls/products/plumbing_an_fittings_and_hose/hose/ 5/16" and 3/8" are the most common size fuel lines used and should be matched to your engines fuel demands. Thx J
Thanks for these videos, it really helps on these installs. Had another question, where would you recommend the holley efi fuel filter placement with this Conversion Fuel Tank? Near the tank or is anywhere in the supply line ok.
The pre-filter should be as close to the tank as possible. The post filter can be anywhere after the fuel pump and before the efi system / regulator. thx J
What happened to the foam that was surrounding the fuel pump. My kit came with one and I just saw motor trend do the same tank and they left the foam on the pump and zip tied the return and supply lines to that. I just installed my sniper tank and did not put the foam on the pump. What is the correct install?
Hi Holley, I have a 1985 Cutlass Supreme and I am thinking about having a 5.3 with a Super Sniper 2x4 4150 and possibly running 1000+hp. I want a return line with the Sniper fuel tank and a fuel pump to support the power. Is there a way to have the setup that I wish for?
Yes, we offer plenty of options! We have single and dual 450 LPH pumps for our drop in modules Check them out , I'm sure one of them will work for your situation. heres a link! www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_pumps_regulators_and_filters/fuel_pumps/efi_fuel_pumps/fuel_cell_efi_fuel_pump_modules/ Thx J
What if the kit doesn’t have some things I need? I’m wanting the sniper 2300 for my 1977 International Scout II with a 304 V8, what do I do about my fuel tank and sending unit? Am I able to use the original ones or what do I do?
You can get a retrofit kit to put an efi pump and a sending unit in your tank. You will just have to check the ohm range of your sending unit to get the correct one
Is there tanks for non-factory locations? I have a 94 s10 that I want to put in a rear tank in the spare tire spot and remove the factory tank to make room for dual exhaust.
Not sure, never heard of them?? LOL!! If your referring to the FI-Tech throttle body you'll have to check with them to see what fuel pressure they require. Thx J
You will have to add a fuel pressure regulator to adjust your fuel pressure. The pump is capable of 60psi but you must install a regulator to maintain the recommended pressure for your EFI set-up. Thx J
The fuel sending unit in my car is 90 ohm- 0 ohm. Opposite of the GM 0 ohm- 90 ohm. Can I put the float facing the opposite direction to make this work?
No Sniper fuel systems will work with most EFI or even a carbureted system as long as the working pressures and volume needs are within the pumps specs and you use the correct regulator.
My question is why the fuck are OEM style fuel sending units $35 but simplified aftermarket ones are fucking $300.... I want these cause they’re simple and clean. But they ain’t worth $300 It’s literally $0.05 hoses, $2 of sheet metal and $3 elbow fittings with 2 wires.
600$ just for the tank --would have 1200$ just in the tank by the time you get it hooked up --i will stick with old school and be just as good for quarter the cost
Shouldn't you of used fuel injection type clamps since snipper is actually a efi pressure pump to help keep leaks down and make sure you have full pressure to the efi unit....and also should run a ground wire to the sender to make sure your getting ground to the sender for good signal
To answer your questions. We use a low permeation multi layered fuel line that is pressed on. It has much better retention than a rubber line has and does most of the gripping itself. There is a ground lug right on the top of the fuel sender unit to provide a clean chassis ground. thx J
This is what Holley does. They review your comments before they post to the world. LOL Customer Service By john t. on January 11, 2022 |Pending Review. Awaiting Moderation. Just wanted to get a few points across as I’m writing this review about my newly installed Sniper EFI Part # 550-511 and 1967-72 Chevy/GMC Truck Under Bed Tank Part # 19-185. I know with these crazy times we are going through for ordering and then receiving car parts in a timely manner is sometimes incomprehensible. With that said, my order was placed on November 12, 2021. After a few phone calls to Holley inquiring about why my tank was taking too long I get this young girl on the phone, and she states that my tank was cancelled on November 18, 2021. Tank was only backordered until November 30, 2021. Now I have all my parts for this install including the Holley hose kit and its now December 21, 2021, when I find this information out. I called back minutes later to confirm this quote and talked to this tech (all parties unnamed included the tech that cancelled the tank). He states that it is true, and they won’t be getting any tanks in until late January of 2022. I asked the tech if I purchased the tank elsewhere if they would work with me on a credit back to my CC since it was their fault. He says, I think I can get something done but it won’t be until tomorrow, so I order the tank and sent in the email showing him I ordered the tank elsewhere. I’m sure this company was built on customer service when it was founded in 1896 by George and Earl Holley, Frank Holley’s sons in Bradford, Pa. and my hometown. www.smethporthistory.org/bradford/100.block/holley/HotelHolley.html From: Rs To: jxxxx@verizon.net Sent: Tue, Dec 21, 2021 6:16 pm Subject: C0022x82xx Please send me the Jegs invoice and we will see what we can do with the difference on cost. From: Rs To: jxxxx@verizon.net Sent: Wed, Dec 22, 2021 12:06 pm Subject: RE: C0022x82xx Hey man! Talked to my higher ups and unfortunately a reimbursement is our of the question. Now I can possibly help a little on future orders and such. Usually in small amounts, but non the less I am more than happy to help in anyway I can if possible. I know this isn’t the answer we were hoping for but it’s the best I got. Sorry and thanks again for understanding with this whole situation. Long story short is to be aware of who you are dealing with and what they say to you at Holley. This company is too BIG and you’re just a NUMBER to them, not a customer. Regardless of where I bought the tank, they still made a sale. One last note, they had 1963-66 Chevy/GMC Truck Under Bed Tank Part # 19-184 in stock which is the same tank as the #19-185. I called to verify that, and no one knew of what I was talking about including the Holley Technical Sales supervisor. He wanted to tell me that the beds were different that why he didn’t think it would fit. It’s not the beds, they have the same frames. Holley gets all their tanks from Tank, Inc. They just put them in a Holley labeled box and when you take it out it says, Tanks, Inc. on the box and it’s stamped on the tank. Tanks Inc. list the tank for a 1963-1972 C10 truck and you can buy the whole set up cheaper through Tanks, Inc. www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=821/category_id=64/mode=prod/prd821.htm Tank, Inc. $510.25 compared to Holley $632.95. Right from the source.
This is not a universal video, dont trust this video if you have a different holly tank. I just ruined my filter, and zips. I need it a 1/2 inch shorter.
So you sell the tank, and you expect the customer to do all that work on a tank that was specifically made for a certain year make and model. Hell do you want me to spot weld it together too??? Sorry muchacho, no sale.
Honestly this video is more clear and better than the instructions the tank came with LOL. GREAT VIDEO!
Solid Video! Thanks Holley Performance!
I bought an Aeromotive EFI conversion tank. It's the exact same tank from Tanks Inc, with different internals. Mine came fully assembled. I'm sure this is just as nice a tank, but it really should come assembled.
EXACTLY, why the hell did they not just assemble it?
@@travisbruce1775 The idea is that every car is going to have a different tank but the pump and fuel level parts are all the same. So it's easier to send the customer their specific tank and then toss in the universal pump parts with some instructions. If the tanks came pre-assembled for everyone, you can count on the prices of these tanks to skyrocket, because it's now gonna be added labor for the manufacturer.
In the end, it's just better for everyone if the customer doesn't complain and does the install themselves. They might learn something.
@@qx4n9e1xp
57 Chevy coupe
Holley tank kit, $485
www.summitracing.com/parts/tnk-570-cg-kit/overview/make/chevrolet
Aeromotive pre-assembled tank kit, $498
www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-18199/overview/make/avanti/model/ii
Plus the aeromotive kit has a foam in-tank baffle(quieter/zero slosh). For $13 id much rather save time.
How has your tank been holding up do you like it for your application? I'm considering on getting one.
I agree! I went to order the Aeromotive one but its like 5 months backorder thru summit or jegs and dont have that time to waste so i bought the Sniper tank
thanks for this video that helped me a lot
I just installed this tank in my Mustang...love the Sniper setup, its great.
What year?
I have a 67 with a 302 & a 5 spd.
Where did you mount the roll-over valve?
Can I install this tank under my 85 Lincoln Town car
Nice pal I like my sniper too. I got a tanks inc tank setup looks identical
Very helpful video! But notice if you have a tank that is less the around 7" on the depth, you cannot use the top screw in the rheostat housing. having the top screw in, does not allow you to get high enough for the correct measurement. (~5 minutes 11 secs). I also had to move the wire lug on the bottom, to the side to get the height I needed. Mine went in a 64 Nova. There are a number of things that have apparently upgraded or improved in the kit, sense this video was made. I still recommend it.
You bent the float arm assembly so it will fit down the hole with the rest of the fuel sender. I can see that it’s bent, you should have mentioned that in your video.
Yup, I can't get mine in now
Mine was a bitch. I had to mark the rod and put it in 1 piece at a time; then put it through the little hole and tighten the set screw.
If you read the printed instructions you’re supposed to trim off the excess bracket at the bottom
Need replace my fuel tank because unleaded gas rust tank up! Thanks showing me how changes out
The video sure made it look easy. The way the level sender was adjusted in this video was way off and you bent the thing just to get it installed. The tank is full 1.5" above the height of the sensor unit. The rheostat needs to be much higher in the tank to be even close to giving a realistic reading and thus the bracket and plastic housing need to be modified quite a bit.
I wish every installation video was as good as this one.
Hello and thanks for the great info. Is there a different kit for a carb return line set up? I use the Blue Holley external elect pump and want to plumb from the Holley Fuel regulator back to the tank. Appreciate any feedback from you or the people commenting. Thank you.
A few things...
Some of the fuel pumps do not have such a nice power connector .... they have simple spade type of connectors (Seems a little sketchy to have live wires with a raw type of connection in contact with fuel.
The gaskets are not rubber but cork.
Not all pumps, with sock installed, will sit so nice and level.
He does not put the sleeve over the fuel pump before zip tying the return tube.
Can you get the rubber gaskets separately? Mine came with cork gaskets that suck
Can u run the Holley Regulator/filter with this conversion tank to shorten up the return line? Install directions for regulator only mention in-line fuel pump. Want to use the stock OEM 3/8 “ hard line and not run a return line from engine bay.
Chevy 350, do you need to remove the the fuel pump rod from block?
Is there a swirl pot in the tank?
If this is a full kit, why would there be any measurement or customization if it's specific to application?
What size and type fuel line and fittings do you get for the tank. I am doing a 1968 Camaro Conversion with the tank however I need to get the fittings and fuel line & return. There really is no kit I can find. Be nice if Holley included this with their tanks to simplify install.
A kit would be handy, but there are just too many variables to take into consideration making it very difficult to make a kit to work with everyone's needs.
The sender has ¼” NPT Supply and Return line ports. You can use either barbed or AN style fittings. Use only high pressure rubber fuel line that is rated for EFI pressures like our Vapor Guard and quality EFI rated clamps. www.holley.com/products/plumbing_an_fittings_and_hose/hose/vapor_guard_hose/parts/762055ERL
Or if you are planning on using AN fittings you can use any of our quality fuel line with the corresponding fittings.
www.holley.com/brands/earls/products/plumbing_an_fittings_and_hose/hose/
5/16" and 3/8" are the most common size fuel lines used and should be matched to your engines fuel demands. Thx J
Thanks for these videos, it really helps on these installs. Had another question, where would you recommend the holley efi fuel filter placement with this Conversion Fuel Tank? Near the tank or is anywhere in the supply line ok.
The pre-filter should be as close to the tank as possible. The post filter can be anywhere after the fuel pump and before the efi system / regulator. thx J
Thanks J!! Almost done with my fuel plumbing, waiting on the dual sync distributor but unfortunately its back order.. :(
This is a tanks Inc system. Got this for my 64 chevelle same thing.
Will this work with the super sniper on a sbc
How long are Holley fuel pumps supposed to last?
My 'mighty might' lift pump failed at 17,000km / 2 years. OEM pumps get 200,000km / 18 odd years.
Since you did this on a ‘67 Camaro from start to finish, would all your measurements in this video, with the same parts, line up for the ‘67 Camaro?
I bought a ‘67 kit and the measurements were different
Will this tank work on a 71 caprice
For the rollover vent! Doesn’t matter what length of hose you need for mounting location?
No any length should work, within reason
What fitting for the pump ? Mine leaks
What happened to the foam that was surrounding the fuel pump. My kit came with one and I just saw motor trend do the same tank and they left the foam on the pump and zip tied the return and supply lines to that. I just installed my sniper tank and did not put the foam on the pump. What is the correct install?
If your kit supplies a foam sleeve then install it. It will help to reduce pump noise.
Hi Holley, I have a 1985 Cutlass Supreme and I am thinking about having a 5.3 with a Super Sniper 2x4 4150 and possibly running 1000+hp. I want a return line with the Sniper fuel tank and a fuel pump to support the power. Is there a way to have the setup that I wish for?
Yes, we offer plenty of options! We have single and dual 450 LPH pumps for our drop in modules Check them out , I'm sure one of them will work for your situation. heres a link! www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_pumps_regulators_and_filters/fuel_pumps/efi_fuel_pumps/fuel_cell_efi_fuel_pump_modules/ Thx J
What kind of sealant or tape do you use for the NPT fittings? Thanks
Permatex thread sealer
What if the kit doesn’t have some things I need? I’m wanting the sniper 2300 for my 1977 International Scout II with a 304 V8, what do I do about my fuel tank and sending unit? Am I able to use the original ones or what do I do?
You can get a retrofit kit to put an efi pump and a sending unit in your tank. You will just have to check the ohm range of your sending unit to get the correct one
Can this be done to a for 38 gallon tank thks
Is there tanks for non-factory locations? I have a 94 s10 that I want to put in a rear tank in the spare tire spot and remove the factory tank to make room for dual exhaust.
Not at this time, sorry.
@@HolleyPerformance ok thanks for replying.
Do i have to replace the fuel tank,or can i use the original one with an external pump?I already have a return line.
A guy from holley told me I could put external fuel pump if I didn't want to install new tank
@@jeffe4638 Thx :)
can you use this set up with the fitech carb?
Not sure, never heard of them?? LOL!! If your referring to the FI-Tech throttle body you'll have to check with them to see what fuel pressure they require. Thx J
Will this work for an LS 5.3l engine? If not, what do you have available for them?
Yes it will As long as your set-up requires no more than 58.5psi fuel pressure , and as long as we offer a tank to fit your vehicle.
what type of thread sealant do you guys recommend for the npt fittings
We recommend earl's thread sealant DO24ERL, but most any reputable sealant will do.
included hardware???? mine didn't come with gasket or hardware.. :'(
give our tech service line a call to get those parts out to you! 866-464-6553
We’re can I get a conversion tank for a 1985 Monte Carlo CL
www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_tanks/efi_conversion_fuel_tanks/parts/19-144
What pressure does it maintain. Ls3 requires 60 psi.
You will have to add a fuel pressure regulator to adjust your fuel pressure. The pump is capable of 60psi but you must install a regulator to maintain the recommended pressure for your EFI set-up. Thx J
Thanks
will this work with my MSD Atomic efi kit?
Yes, absolutely! -Keith
The fuel sending unit in my car is 90 ohm- 0 ohm. Opposite of the GM 0 ohm- 90 ohm. Can I put the float facing the opposite direction to make this work?
That's an excellent question! I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work, granted you have adequate clearance for the float in that direction.
Hi, is this only compatible with the sniper EFI system?
No Sniper fuel systems will work with most EFI or even a carbureted system as long as the working pressures and volume needs are within the pumps specs and you use the correct regulator.
HolleyPerformance ill be running a original engine system of a lq9 into a 68 camaro, so this will be the best purchase for me?
Yes, It is a direct bolt in so there is no modification neccessary! Should work just fine as long as you don't exceed 550hp
My question is why the fuck are OEM style fuel sending units $35 but simplified aftermarket ones are fucking $300.... I want these cause they’re simple and clean. But they ain’t worth $300
It’s literally $0.05 hoses, $2 of sheet metal and $3 elbow fittings with 2 wires.
600$ just for the tank --would have 1200$ just in the tank by the time you get it hooked up --i will stick with old school and be just as good for quarter the cost
You forgot to put the sleeve on the pump!!!!!!!
Shouldn't you of used fuel injection type clamps since snipper is actually a efi pressure pump to help keep leaks down and make sure you have full pressure to the efi unit....and also should run a ground wire to the sender to make sure your getting ground to the sender for good signal
To answer your questions. We use a low permeation multi layered fuel line that is pressed on. It has much better retention than a rubber line has and does most of the gripping itself. There is a ground lug right on the top of the fuel sender unit to provide a clean chassis ground. thx J
Why not send it assembled make things easier
True that would make more sense... 🤔 especially for us customers
This is same as tanks in tank corrext
This is what Holley does. They review your comments before they post to the world. LOL
Customer Service
By john t. on January 11, 2022 |Pending Review. Awaiting Moderation.
Just wanted to get a few points across as I’m writing this review about my newly installed Sniper EFI Part # 550-511 and 1967-72 Chevy/GMC Truck Under Bed Tank Part # 19-185. I know with these crazy times we are going through for ordering and then receiving car parts in a timely manner is sometimes incomprehensible. With that said, my order was placed on November 12, 2021. After a few phone calls to Holley inquiring about why my tank was taking too long I get this young girl on the phone, and she states that my tank was cancelled on November 18, 2021. Tank was only backordered until November 30, 2021. Now I have all my parts for this install including the Holley hose kit and its now December 21, 2021, when I find this information out. I called back minutes later to confirm this quote and talked to this tech (all parties unnamed included the tech that cancelled the tank). He states that it is true, and they won’t be getting any tanks in until late January of 2022. I asked the tech if I purchased the tank elsewhere if they would work with me on a credit back to my CC since it was their fault. He says, I think I can get something done but it won’t be until tomorrow, so I order the tank and sent in the email showing him I ordered the tank elsewhere. I’m sure this company was built on customer service when it was founded in 1896 by George and Earl Holley, Frank Holley’s sons in Bradford, Pa. and my hometown.
www.smethporthistory.org/bradford/100.block/holley/HotelHolley.html
From: Rs
To: jxxxx@verizon.net
Sent: Tue, Dec 21, 2021 6:16 pm
Subject: C0022x82xx
Please send me the Jegs invoice and we will see what we can do with the difference on cost.
From: Rs
To: jxxxx@verizon.net
Sent: Wed, Dec 22, 2021 12:06 pm
Subject: RE: C0022x82xx
Hey man! Talked to my higher ups and unfortunately a reimbursement is our of the question. Now I can possibly help a little on future orders and such. Usually in small amounts, but non the less I am more than happy to help in anyway I can if possible. I know this isn’t the answer we were hoping for but it’s the best I got. Sorry and thanks again for understanding with this whole situation.
Long story short is to be aware of who you are dealing with and what they say to you at Holley. This company is too BIG and you’re just a NUMBER to them, not a customer. Regardless of where I bought the tank, they still made a sale. One last note, they had 1963-66 Chevy/GMC Truck Under Bed Tank Part # 19-184 in stock which is the same tank as the #19-185. I called to verify that, and no one knew of what I was talking about including the Holley Technical Sales supervisor. He wanted to tell me that the beds were different that why he didn’t think it would fit. It’s not the beds, they have the same frames. Holley gets all their tanks from Tank, Inc. They just put them in a Holley labeled box and when you take it out it says, Tanks, Inc. on the box and it’s stamped on the tank. Tanks Inc. list the tank for a 1963-1972 C10 truck and you can buy the whole set up cheaper through Tanks, Inc.
www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=821/category_id=64/mode=prod/prd821.htm
Tank, Inc. $510.25 compared to Holley $632.95. Right from the source.
Sad part is how overpriced all this shit is. What will fit my 79 caprice?
I would guess you will just need a regulator that is ment for carbs lower psi
This is not a universal video, dont trust this video if you have a different holly tank. I just ruined my filter, and zips. I need it a 1/2 inch shorter.
So you sell the tank, and you expect the customer to do all that work on a tank that was specifically made for a certain year make and model. Hell do you want me to spot weld it together too??? Sorry muchacho, no sale.
Can someone please contact me. I can show proof that I keep calling but no one picks up the phone.