The Sahara's Forgotten War (Full Length)
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2014
- VICE News travels to Western Sahara's occupied and liberated territories, as well as the Polisario-run refugee camps in Algeria, to find out more about one of the world's least reported conflicts.
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VICE News travels to Western Sahara's occupied and liberated territories, as well as the Polisario-run refugee camps in Algeria, to find out more about one of the world's least reported conflicts.
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@stephanie D Forgot west Africa burgers also Occupied it
they Worth nothing without algerian support even their clothes are made in algeria
they don't even have a proper army I saw the same people in the polisario army in multiple channels and videos
hhhhh 😂🤣🤣🤣
@@Isabelle_LaBelle I’m Moroccan but shut up 80 % of Moroccan are Arabs don’t lie
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POLIZARIO FRONT ARE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION SUPPORTED BY CORRUPT ALGERIANS MILITARY REGIME ANY COUNTRY OR ANY PERSON SUPPORT THIS ORGANIZATION IS TERRORIST 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Interesting video, but too biased. For one thing, the video calls the West Sahara an economic boon for Morocco, despite leaked documents proving it's actually a drain.
Yeah it costs 2 billions $ per year to Morocco. So it's not a question of money, but a question of principles.
They meant NATURAL RESOURCES
the video is too biased for real, they didn't even talk about the history of the region, it's Moroccan, so there is no occupation besides the occupation of a great Morocco in the Algerian regime that created this chaos and Polisario to tackle Morocco, this is absurdly not the way Vice does documentaries. By the way, the sahara region of Morocco is developing quiet serious, it was Moroccan and it's still Moroccan
@@medfadel473 What resources? Few fish and Phosphate? Both have very low Returns? We aren't talking about oil, natural gas, diamonds or uranium! Come on now!!
@@TheWitness1001 few fish and phosphate ??? Are you serious my brother ?? The government of Morocco literally making BILLIONS OF US DOLLARS from this industry because western Sahara's important location and wealth.. this is not me who are saying this.. look by yourself 👇
www.pri.org/stories/2013-11-21/worlds-food-supply-depends-morocco-heres-why
www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/11/the-desert-rock-that-feeds-the-world/508853/
And yes.. I prefer to ask people of western sahara rather than making claims about their stolen wealth and case.
Morocco is trilingual? I've heard French, Spanish and Arabic
Yes. France and Spain basically took control of the country for 100 years, ending in 1957. Spain actually retains two autonomous zones (Ceuta and Melilla) in what would be Morocco. There are more French speakers than Spanish speakers, but there is more Spanish as you go north to bigger cities. The biggest city, Casablanca, means "white house" in Spanish.
Bombay1618 Oh yeah, I've heard and read about those coastal cities surrounded by walls
***** You're missing the point here -- it matters not where they are being filmed; they could be at any refugee camp in any country, but that won't change their cultural background before displacement. You're right they're not Moroccans, they're Sahawari -- the people of Western Sahara, but I never said they were Moroccans. I didn't even imply it; I was simply answering Voltage's question. The fact that they're refugees does not change the fact that the people of Western Sahara (whose rebel group is the Polisario), as well as the people of Morocco were heavily influenced by Spanish and French, culturally speaking. "Polisario" actually is an acronym for Popular de Liberación de Saguía el Hamra y Río de Oro. That's a Spanish acronym, by the way.
Nice and you forgot the Berber.
topkhani Whoops. Yes, you're right. It seems the video focuses more on the Sahawaris, but the Berber people are "homeless" as well. Have their own language and culture but no country; they're somewhat like the Hmong of Southeast Asia in that respect.
"And we would like to thank our sponsor today: Algeria"
Wher do refugees go? To the nearest country for safety. Where did all the palestinians go.
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@Preuve DZ
We took the land and you took polisario
I know it hurts
@Preuve DZ
Yes yes, Algeria's military regime will take it, or maybe the polisario will bring superman to help them.
@Preuve DZ
Yes big boy, Algeria so powerful and can defeat Morocco in 2 hours, come and try.
"No country has recognized Morocco's sovereignty of western sahara". That aged like fine wine in 2020, with America recognizing moroccos claim so it would recognize israel. Would love a new segment on the topic is possible.
You still want to get a more wrong version. Vice just lost all it's credibility to me.
Morocco date back 1200 years, the saraha was moroccan for centuries, now these guys are with 38 years old guerilla wants to have some legitimacy.
Polisario is holding people there as hostages, no one can return to their country.
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It sounds like you're from another planet, either you don't read the news or you're asleep. Morocco spent Billions of Dollars in its Sahara. You should go kit surfing in Dakhla. There're twenty four foreign consulates in Layoune. The United States recognized Ligitimacy of Morocco 's claim of its Southern region which was colonised by Spain 1894.
@@mikeletterst9882 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦 Moroccan Sahara if you disagree come and try get it
@@plus_2853 Western Sahara is an independent nation with different ethnicities and cultures.
Jeez, I've heard about the situation with Morocco and the Polisario, I had no idea it was this bad. I can't believe the UN would just ignore the situation like this!
SAHARA IS MOROCCAN. POLISARIO TERROIST
i'm from dakhla sahara moroccan !!!
good for you, go take it somewhere else
SAHARA MAGRBYA ;) OH DIMA MAGREB ;)
Sahara is moroccan go fuck yourself
19:34, "Negotiations seemed to have failed". "Negotiations never took play". :3
Allah Alwatan Almalik
@K salam Liar, no proof
@Pedro Wong Bruh you don't even know why Morocco normalized relations with Israel. Google it lmao.
@Pedro Wong we need to fix our country first
Dios patria rey thats a Portuguese motto lmao you Moroccans stole everything 😂
realmente real, hasta el himno jajajajajaja@@dracul3691
Would've been fairer and more objective if you guys had interviewed both sides of the story, this documentary is not neutral at all as you guys didn't interview Sahrawi people who are against Polisario
There are more sahrawi's against polosario
@Luaay E i have been to laayoune and some villages close they are proud moroccans
@Luaay E i am moroccan bro mbark boussoufa is also an sahrawi and he played with proud for morocco most people from the sahara are proud moroccans
As a sahrawi i am proud that I'm one of those people the polisario has tortured my family members for many years for stupid reasons
@luaye1764 the truth is if you support independece and you are a sahrawi the police will never touch you you can see thel in the universities and everything but if you are a sahrawi and concider your self moroccan the polisario will give you hell
This reporter should have at least discredit his bias. This is one sided as FUCK
+EDIAMINful CLassic. Pur propaganda.
I know this is only 1 side of the story but I am astonished that I have never heard of the situation. I try to keep up on all global issues. I find it strange to not have heard of this.
Many moroccans only know that there's an issue and none of the specifics.
Morocco surprisingly has a very tight leash on the media. I'm Moroccan, and only recently did I find that the king has other siblings than his brother
all sides of the story
" blood and blood" american documentary about Western Sahara
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@@ouassilhamdaoui9252 not sure what part of Morocco you live in but to say that Morocco has a very tight leash on the media? come on. that may have been during Hassan 2 years, now everything is out to the public with all the internet and social media.
@@ouassilhamdaoui9252 You should only blame that on yourself and own ignorance. Saying that you didn't know the king had other siblings beyond his brother? Even by 5 years old knows his sisters by name 😂
@@kwilla2001 dont fool the public, morocco has a non-democratic regime, there is no free real journalisme in the country.
for the last time western sahara is moroccan
Western Sahara is forever Sahrawi 🇪🇭 🇪🇭 🇪🇭
well that was a one sided . talk about professionalism
Yeah why they don't ask the russian about Crimea?
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🇲🇦💋@@mikeletterst9882
Vice is a leftist propaganda network. Dunno what else you’d expect lol
Lol at all of the Moroccan shills posting in the comments section
I'm Moroccan too I support Morocco not Polisario.
@@sesnaffaout9528that's why u r fuking bullshit... U moroccans are thief like israel...that's why u guys r tge alliance of bastard country israel.
14:17 - "It's so dusty in here..." -- Ummmm......You're in a desert.
"ya don't say?!"
the biggest dasert in the world lol
this doesn't seem very balanced. I'm a staunch nationalist in every sense and believe in self determination for all people but this does seem overly pro polisario.
This is only propaganda
It is lmao
Viva el frente polosario!! Sáhara libre!!
if you don't know already, Algeria pays people and journalists to do this kind of stuff, the most humiliating thing that happened this month was when the UN warned the state news service of Algeria of their misconduct and fake news, and this was happening for too long, stealing and faking Moroccan,Egyptian and Tunisian history to make it seem a joke, truth be told that Algeria has no history at all, that's why they're doing that. They payed Venewuela,South Africa,Cuba ... to pick their sides in the UN, and when they were questioned about the matter they seemed to know anything about the region !!! Algeria created this crisis, Algeria fund terrorist organizations to destabilize the region ( latest CIA reports ). Sahara was and still Moroccan, Algerian military regime still hate on Morocco for their prosperous development and their 0 drop of oil Economy
well i agree but they re just less than 10 percent of the people that live there
I'm glad you guys have picked up on this story. Morocco and Algeria are full of conflict yet it's hardly ever reported.
Why should we be pressed u have more land 😭 we never even said that and ur country isn’t made of France, the french came to Algeria killed and much worse for 100 yrs and left
These racists are using black people for their war while the white are preserved
Why are there no interviews with Moroccan officials or citizens. This is a very biased documentary.
The reporter, and many refuges make reference that the Moroccan government outlaws all international media.
Even so they could have interviewed a Moroccan official, maybe in the North, about the situation in Western Sahara. it is not like the Moroccan government refuses to speak about the topic.
@@habibrahmani628 nop
Where the fuck else would you find coverage of this on video? Love ya, VICE.
Vice has excellent news that is unbiased and gets into the heart of the action
western sahara is morocco and sahraouis are moroccan separatists like catalunya in spain
Fucking Marocains. LONG LIVE ALGERIE FROM TUNISIE!
And Palestine is Israel
Hindustani 24 Palestine-Israel-Jordan is Assyrian... You stupid dumbass
Are you Assyrian?
Hindustani 24 No, but i don't need to be Assyrian to have the knowledge of Assyria
This story is one sided.
agree
+Joeysantoro yes
freewal SAHARA OF MOROCCO
SAHARA FOR MAGHREB!
Ali Bekour Ali Bekour Sure
Send Badr Hari he will bring peace (:
Badr Hari is shit. He never won a world title, he does not earn any respect by his disturbing behavior.
MRjesseNL But he will win the world title soon... respect him or he will crush u
vauntastic He did with few people already. There for he is not able to fight here in The Netherlands. The only right place for him is back to morocco or here in jail.
MRjesseNL Badrrrrr
vauntastic Noob
Showing this problem only from their perspective, wrong way Vice hmm
Its the reporters narrative. What would you expect the editors to do? not go ahead with the documentary, and waste all the money blown on its expenses? just because it isn't a multi faced post-modern outlook? Everybody should know that all media is biased and therefore see films like these as just one story. To everyone involved in making this film, thank you for trying to give those few people a voice
soukighan Le roi Mohamed 6 et Hassan 3 doivent tomber avec leur famille en novembre 2018
الملك محمد 6 خسوا اي مشي اي قوووود هذا الاسبوع مع أسرته الشفارة
The king of Morocco must leave with his family on November and pay for his crimes
Abdel Derhem (Facebook, instagram)
Le roi Mohamed 6 et Hassan 3 doivent tomber avec leur famille en novembre 2018
الملك محمد 6 خسوا اي مشي اي قوووود هذا الاسبوع مع أسرته الشفارة
The king of Morocco must leave with his family on November and pay for his crimes
Abdel Derhem (Facebook, instagram)
THANK YOU
I remember this war.
where can I get the full version of the song that comes in the background (5:10 min )?
That hash looked like it would crumble well in2 a joint !
100K of people want to own a country the size of Britain? While other 2 million moroccain sahrawis live peaceful inside west Morocco shara. This people are used by Algeria for politic ends.
WE WANT OUR INDEPENDENCE WESTERN SAHARA FREE FOREVER LIVE THE REPUBLIC SAHARAOUI ARABIC
Come to the dunes with rotten AKs, our F16s need target practice anyway.
Freedom isn’t free go and take it from Morocco. It’s like Morocco they want Melilla Ceuta and Canary Island but they can’t get it.
@@Mr.CabadoTrucking Freedom is free in the absence of bad actors like Morocco. It also _could_ be free if the international community actually did anything to fulfill its alleged commitment to human rights.
American recognition of the Moroccan claim is a travesty.
The Polisario commander speaks excellent Spanish. I wonder how much of the population still speaks Spanish since the Spanish left years ago. Maybe only the older people speak it.
It's one of the two main languages
India still speaks English even though the British left
@@Ch-xk5tv British left, but the structure and relations they created still exist, India is under british neocolonialism.
Spanish is what’s supposed to unite them against Morocco and their French
@@Ch-xk5tv yeah and India they prevented Goa an Damán and Diu from speaking Portuguese
24:34 That is the most obvious undercover cop i have ever seen..
That's a paid actor bro so obvious (i know it's been 6 years lol )
@@farismourid2748 yeahh it's just propaganda and trying to say lies
How much you get paid to produce this one side documentary
This is interesting to watch as a Moroccan. I never knew Morocco annexed the area as late as 1975. I thought they liberated the area through the green march from Spanish colonizers (that's what we were taught in school btw).
Well done for being honest.
It was taken peacefully from Spain in November 6 1975 doesn’t the green March sound familiar
@@badreloudghiri2846 as I said thats what I know. I know we took back OUR land from the spaniards through the green march. I never knew we "annexed" it from the so called polisario.
There was a deal between Spain and Morocco, can't believe some moroccans are ignorant about Morocco's history ! 9ra chwya azbi wbaraka mn lkalakh
Yeah great way of showing how easily influenced you are
21:38 "Es un vehículo de ellos". That means its one of THEIR vehicles, not OUR vehicles. Meaning they encountered smugglers.
Wow they speak perfect classical Arabic! I’m surprised because i thought they would speak with a Darija accent.
They do, in formal speach its better to use arabic and not darija
We speak arabic very well because we're originally Arabs from Yemen but daily we speak the Hassani dialect
We speal Hassania. We are arab not berebers like morocans.
@@nazihhatem Reguibat tribe (the one from Brahim Ghali) is actually Berber :) They are Sanhaji Berbers, and not Arabs. So you guys pretend to be Sahrawi and you don't even know your own origins? Proof you are trolling
@@nazihhatem yes, you’re not like Moroccans and you should stay in Tindouf and declare your republic there.
15:38 Tanks from 70's and 80's actually don't sound that bad Vice! Many modern armies still use armament from 70s & 80s including the US. The M1 Abrams entered service in 1980 and currently serves as the main battle tank for the United States Army and Marine Corps. The harrier Aircraft or Jump Jet (1969) still in use by US military, expected to retire by 2025. B52 Aircraft, US military, has been delivering bombs for the past 60 years and continues to do so until 2040. Don't get me started on small arms that date back to WW1 and are still in service by the US navy.
These were sovit bmp's which are infantry fighting vehicles not tanks they are meant to support troops and support them with its 30mm gun,their tanks are old t55 and t62's so yeah pretty bad
Aged well
We are the amazigh. We are all humans. For far too long have Algerian and Moroccan people hated each other. Thumbs up if you agree.
STFU we Are Arabs and Muslims and we support Western Sahara
@@motherfuckerjones4670 what do you mean? Do sahraoui people consider themselves Arab?
Gothic Lemons Dna It’s literally called the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. But yeah it’s mix of arabs & berbers.
@Moroccan Patriot Morocco is Spain.
@@xkxkxixmdjknkcovixiskosid7282 Why do you think Morocco is Spain?
حرب من اجل الاستقلال ليست كحرب من اجل الاحتلال
Damn, those hash bricks look so good.
Salam I am more Moroccan than Western Saharan and I please want peace
My father family are Saharans and they are Illigally living in morroco trying to escape the war
There is no war in Morocco. I've been there and toured the area. These people are held captive by Algeria and The polisario leadership and use them as pawns for their own benefits.
Joe Kalab I’m algerian. 🇩🇿
@@NationalismDjazair who ?!
What war? Where?
@@NationalismDjazairولاد القاف عا حيت بين دزايريين ديقولوا التحميرة المغربية الطاجين المغربي و داكشي ردوه كستدخل في السياسة ديالهم واخا هو ها بغا يثول أنهم را خوت واخا .......... و ديك الهضرة
عشرة غي عقل يا الكلب
Illegally occupied by morocco what the hell are you talking about
ta mashftish 9adi 3yad xd
talking about the truth, it's always hard to swallow
@@s.mohamed2088 well its politics truth doesnt exist on both sides its gods land and everyone is claiming it i mean they re arabs like arabs didnt exist there pre romans thats one claim u gonna get another and another so the truth is not a concept u use here
@@abdelhakwinston6200 i really didn't get exactly what are u saying but it looks stupid
simply the UN declared Sahrawi people as the owners of the land and that cannot change
@@s.mohamed2088 the truth is this
Colonisation Map: commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Empire_alaouite_-_XVIIIe_s-es.svg
So historically seen after the Colonisation the Parts of the Countries should go back to how it was before. And because algeria was afraid that the moroccans could get their land back ( algerian sahara is rich with oil and gas) their created polisario as a fake saharan native people to block morocco from getting its historically seen, land.
That is fact and only ignorants cant accept it.
2. Source: fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_ch%C3%A9rifien
2:43, SHE'S GONNA BLOW!!!
amazing job guys!! congrats!!
Sahara is Moroccan and will still Moroccan in the day of end.
The Western Sahara Territory issue is a very complex one. It should be treated with professionalism. In a conflict, when a journalist repeats words, expressions, views...of one side, he takes aside. A journalist should use "according to" more than once to not misled watchers/readers. Being under the spell of one side isn't about journalism, it's about adversiting editorial. This very young lady has no knowledge on the Western Sahara issue. She has no idea about the genesis of the issue in a context of cold war. She has no idea about the role of Algeria and the USSR block in the issue. She has no idea about the will of the Western Saharawi. She has no idea about the situation on the ground, the sufferings of Tindouf camps inhabitants when they revolt, the food/water blackmail by Polisario leaders to keep the Saharawi quite ...She missed an occasion to talk to persecuted people in Polisario Front camps. She intentionally missed to mention the unionist Western Saharawi who represent the large majority in the region...
More to read on CORCAS websites.
CORCAS is the Western Sahara Territory Community (Sahara Occidental) south the Kingdom of Morocco.
CORCAS, the Western Sahara Community may be the journalist got some algerian cash to build that report. us we can see, she diden't talk to any moroccan sahrawi.
she's kinda cute, tho...
i was searshing for this comment
@@sammyroussi2929 it's not like it's a debatable subject. Morocco invaded. The land is not yours
@@hengest7760 Realy ?
The Sahara il was and Still moroccan land. In the history, we Never see any country in the south of morocco, even Mauritanie its a moroccan Land.
Why is there always conflict in Northern Africa and the Middle East Jesus Christ get your shit together. And why wouldn't you want to be apart of Morocco they're a power and it's a great country. Accept the land as moroccos and live your life
+Patrick Morrison You're clever. Not like Algerian generals.
Would really like to know the name of the song at the credits.
Fake documentary. Its not showing the whole story and only showing it from one perspective.
it does not make it fake, its a documentary of one point of view
The most important bit in this report: The fact that settlers have reproduced. The children feel they are born locals and have the right to vote on the issue. Morocco wins diplomatic victory. Their only likely course of action is now war.
What you call "settlers" are really people who have been "forced" to live there, let's remember that their king promised the poorest a better life if they lived there, deceiving and blackmailing them, the king manipulate them and in the end they will be the ones who pay the price of that war, the innocent always pay
The Sahara will always remain Moroccan !!!! It is a part of its territorial integrity !!! This documentry is clearly giving wrong information to the world !! Allah (God) Al Watan (Homeland) Al Malik (King) !! Peace !!
+Faith Cole With all my due respect, what "correct" information are you giving here ?
Nabil Elamrani I made myself clear when I said that the Sahara is a part of the moroccan territorial integrity, didn't I?!!
+Faith Cole Vice just takes the smaller factions side in any conflict, regardless of validity
الصحراء مغربية
sharawise satart the war first so what do they expect
Some nice blocks of hash they have there
That territory's been Moroccan forever, where the hell did these people come from?
not it has not been, it was spanish before !!!!
kacheyyyyyyy It was probably Roman as well, I haven't heard much about Italy demanding its territory back.
Wrong it was amazigh/berber before any invasion..We Saharauis are originally berbers.. but some of us are Arabe brainwashed and arabe mixed...
kacheyyyyyyy educate yourself ahahaha spainsh came in 1912 as a protectorate and they peacefully left in 1975 as morocco reclaimed the territory that was its own for the past 12 centuries.
ComradeWinston romans never made it that far south
They have 6 tanks and this chick says "I wonder how'd they'd stand against a modern army"
What's it look like to You? They'd be destroyed by planes and bombardments
It will only take a drone strike sense the tanks are int he open and there are little to no cover in the sahara
I am 51 years old and ever since I could understand things; all I’ve ever known about these specific countries,have been, war ridden,desperate for food,freedom and structure. It has never changed!!!!! Good,bad or indifferent 😕 Why????Young people there,think that they’re fighting a new war. WRONG!!!! Its the same....... war, just a different date and time. Why don’t these people learn from their mistakes???? It frustrates me!
"these specific countries"; let's see colonialism? ever heard of this concept?
I was on the plane that landed on the day of the ceasefire
I hated every day of my assignment there until I finally managed to return to my former duty station
It would make a great region for the next Far Cry
its just flat desert
DragenMaster Yeah, the ahaggar mountains would be better. (Touaregs, tin hinan(princess) and the prehistoric paintings)
& just to know: Morocco is actually asking those "refugees" to return to their homeland anytime they want
They even built towns for when the refugees return
😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍Good propaganda, but this will not work... All we know tha morocco is killing and torturating thousands of saharawis everyday. Free Western Sahara.
@@user-gf6fc5dg9i All we know is that even Poisario's solidier are trying to escape to Morocco,
@@user-gf6fc5dg9i honey , show us where and when Morocco did that , as far as I'm concerned , algeria is jeeping them in old tents to make Morocco NOT in peace as algeria always be with civil wars and terrorism
People keep saying Western Sahara is Moroccan.... well I'm looking at my globe right now & it clearly shows they are 2 separate countries... If they're all Moroccans, they sure aren't treated as such. Seems very similar to Israel/Palestine.
At the time of caliphate it was one province. But all tribes even then were autonomous. Not like today - occupied and in exile in harsh desert when their rich country is being exploited by foreigners, US, EU corporations.
I'm sorry but that's the absolute stupidest argument I've ever heard. "Look this map I have says they're two countries so you guys can just suck it."
It's in English XWay2- read carefully I am also against the status quo... Let me spell it out...
Maps and modern borders were drawn to divide and rule by European (Brits, Spain, Italy, France) occupiers who colonized (tried to) North Africa for 50 to 400 years depending on country.They were all eventually kicked out by the locals.
Now Morocco along with it's corporate sponsors from US and UK who are exploiting West Sahara are equally guilty and complicit in looting the natural resources of the poor Africans.
People should have the right to secede from ant country at any time. South will rise again, Free Texas, Free Quebec, Free Kashmir, Free Tibet, Free Chechnia, Free Palestine, Free Khurdistan and so on. free free free..
Right now it is world plutocracy - might/greed is right; when humanity eventually, if ever, matures it will be so - instead of free for all.
My comment was directed at adub4ever, but the comment system on here is a bit wierd so I probably should have specified. I pretty much agree with your points.
Could be my fault, I may have been quick to jumped to conclusions myself. Thanks for explaining.
The guy at 6:25 has been watching a lot of Scarface....STFU..lololol Helicopter...hahaha
you know how they say that the polisario invented dessert guerrilla warfare by using tunnels but didn't the viet congs also use tunnels during the vietnam war? i mean the only diffrence really was the palisari is in the dessert and the viet cong is in the tropical rain forest of south east asia .
SAHARA IS MOROCCAN
+Wiame Akhsassi no it isnt dont be stupid , thats like someone saying that palestine is israel (which is not )
Time will show the truths , see you then ;)
+deemer garufi Palestine is Israel
don't think I want it
but Palestine is not a country
If Morocco wants the people in SADR controlled territory to accept their autonomy plan, they must show good will by allowing some free travel between territories, allow infrastructure and economic development, businesses investment and trade in SADR territories.
You have to win hearts and minds.
Lol ur not intelligent enough to think that if we open the borders those terrorists will kill and destroy our cities and people only to destabilize our country and take their fake independence. There are already several benefits for saharawis that return in morocco infact if they accept to be moroccan they give them a work, house for living and moroccan citizenship.
Lmao why will we allow any "free travel" if they're rejecting the whole concept of Autonomy plan and let me tell you that Morocco will not try to accommodate any further simply for the fact that we don't need to and we don't think it's worth it either lol.
instead of this biased propaganda that claims "Sahrawis are being opressed by Morocco" why don't you go see for yourself and literally just type "Laayoune" or "Dakhla" and you'll see the difference between a modern civilized cities where the Government has poured billions and billions of dollars over the years on in it's road,education,power, network, and financial infrastructure to fully integrate the Southern regions to the rest of the more industrialised Northern regions and compare them to other east to the wall cities that are basically inhabitable and look like they're from the middle ages with 0 infrastructure.
and wdym that we should "allow" more buisnesses investment and trade in SADR region ?
like dude who's stoping them ? literally no one !! These people and their propaganda are making it seem like Morocco is shooting down any living organism that comes in a 10km radius to the walls where a billion mines planted there but ofc that's far from reality.
I mean you've seen the video yourself when the protestors came less than 100m close to the walls trying to provoke those guards and the latter didn't do anything because 1st we've had a ceasefire since 1991, 2nd nobody is shooting unarmed civilians because we're not isra*lis and the UN is watching.
also this self proclaimed "country" and its "government" can't do anything on their own heck they've only been living through Forgein help and being refugee in algeria all their lives.
like seriously ? it's been 40 years since we've built those walls and you're telling me that in the 20% of the western Sahara that they control, they couldn't build one single modern city and all they do is claim that they're trying to free the "opressed" people of laayoune ?? lmao just say you wish you had a Moroccan citizenship so that you'll be welcome there.
@@Shockload Um, I live in the United States. I support the Moroccan autonomy plan to end the conflict. I am saying that both sides should show good will.
@@reanimationeas342 ah sorry, When I said "You" at the end I wasn't really talking about you lol, it was more of general expression towards the Polisario/SADR or whatever they call themselves...
I mean besides their corrupt algerian puppet leaders I really feel bad for their innocent citizens and I really mean it... especially the kids and the youngsters because they're being brainwashed and fed propaganda,
the Politicians aside do you think the citizens who lived there all their lives aren't getting tired ? do you think the mothers seeing their kids literally dying because of famine,hunger,malnutrition,diseases, having no basic rights or needs aren't tired of achieving nothing but blablabla for half a century ?? the people there are like the ones you find rn in North Korea or back in the day when east and west germany was still a thing.... The poor people who actually know of the economic boom thats happening beyond the walls in the big cities of Laayoune and Dakhla are desperately trying to migrate while the ones who are only fed the propaganda think that the life beyond those walls isn't that much better of their own and that the Sahrawis there are being "oppressed" etc ...so they stick with the separatiststs but let me tell you that the only reason Polisario didn't accept the Autonomy Plan was because Algeria also declined.
And for Algeria that made this problem in the first place trying to half our country in 2 would only be happy if western Sahara is independent so they can gain the political and economic advantage over Morocco.
@@reanimationeas342 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara#Economy
In 2011, leaked United States diplomatic cables revealed that the territory is somewhat of an economic burden for Morocco;[97] the Moroccan US$800 million subsidy program to Western Sahara was said to be one of the larger per-capita aid programs in history.[97] Supporting life in a territory with scarce freshwater resources is extremely costly. For example, all drinking water for the city of Laayoune comes from desalinization facilities and costs 3 US dollars per cubic meter but is sold at the national price of 0.0275 US dollars; the difference is paid for by the government of Morocco.[97] Fuel is sold at half the price, and basic goods are heavily subsidized;[97] businesses operating in the territory do not pay taxes.[97] All of this is done to keep the balance of Western Sahara's finances.[97] The territory is otherwise thought to be economically unviable and unable to support its population without the Moroccan subsidies.[98] The cable concluded that the territory is unlikely ever to be of any economic benefit for Morocco, even if offshore oil fields were to be discovered and exploited.[97]
Due to the disputed nature of Moroccan sovereignty over the territory, the application of international accords to Western Sahara is highly ambiguous. Political leadership of trade agreement signatories such as the United States (US-Morocco Free Trade Agreement) and Norway (European Free Trade Association trade accord) have made statements as to these agreements' non-applicability - although practical policy application is ambiguous.
ok show us western saharas existense before colonialism in any map???
If you want, I can give you a full map, that shows all the parts of Western Sahara. And it's from 1832 to 1917.
Why isn’t Mauritania part of Morocco then?
Every country has a date in which it was founded.
Your arguement is stupid.
Italy was not a country until the 1890's, so it doesn't exist either?
And thanks for all people who are supporting us. Love u yall ❤️
Me: chuckling as they are fighting for a heap of sand and debris.
Not fighting for a heap of sand and debris, we're fighting for our homeland 🇪🇭
I’m sick of seeing videos called “ ‘x’s forgotten war”
Only Vice News would report on a "war" where there is none.
I just enjoyed the comments... pure comedy😅😅😂😂
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
0/20 Vice you made no research about the conflixt
Does anyone know why that guy was speaking spanish? I dont know the history so im a bit confused.
Mohamed Essini Sorry but I do smell a rancid Moroccan nationalism, are you talking about the Polisario as allies to the Spanish? Should I remind you that they attacked the Spanish garrisons in Western Sahara?Long before Morocco did their Green March, despite of the international community dictating there was no lawful historical sovereign claim of the Western Sahara by Morocco
the moroccan sahara is not occupied it belongs to morocco. anyone says otherwise needs to study the history of morocco.this video is a bunch of lies and propaganda .those who made this video should ask the so called the polisario front officials .where the food help that is send to those in tindouf camps ,goes. or why ias it sold in algeria .
9:54 "Morocco hugely profits from the occupation." No, no it doesn't. the opposite is true. it's clear they aren't going to include the Moroccan point-of-view
40 years in the desert, waiting to return to their homeland... sound familiar???
Did that guy say he can eat sand?
2 Million sahrawis are living in Morocco and claim Morocco is their country. 150 000 "Sahrawis" Are living in Algeria and HAVE NEVER BEEN IN MOROCCO, claim the land is theirs, while 99% never stepped on it in their entire life. Plus, there was never a country called the democratic sahrawi republic in human history, while Morocco is a country standing for over 1200 years.
How much did Algeria pay you?
Do you think Palestine is a country or is really part of Israel?
221,000 Sahrawi are living in Western Sahara but mostly controlled by Morocco and Western Sahara belongs to the Sahrawi people but stop lying to the world.
Moroccans and Sahrawi are two different people.
Vive Western Sahara
+xAnonymousComedia In 1975 East Timor was invaded and occupied by Indonesia but in 2002 gain independence and the Indonesian troops leave East Timor.
Warsame Warsama You're telling me there is a country called the Democratic Sahraoui Republic? And since when? Where did these people come from? I read all history books and I couldn't find any clues on this. However I found that Morocco is a country that is standing since the 8th century, weird?
+xAnonymousComedia It's like Ethiopian Empire or Abyssinia who took over Eritrea but the Eritrean fought back for 30 year war and gain independence in 1991.
The Aksumite Empire standing since the 100-940 CE.
The Abyssinia and Ethiopian Empire standing since the 11th century.
2:30 anyone else find the electric guitar(stratocaster) and amp ,in the desert, in that setting a little comedic ???????
It's Moroccan Sahara! You can say what you want.. Big difference between Laayoune and Tindoff!
Morocco: troops on trees uhu ...📝 from tunnels okay ...📝 ok everything noted
hey im morrocan and i love vice old docs
This doc is very biased, they should be neutral not sided with polizario
@@The-devllopperBlogspot true but they just tryinna be informative they dont know a lot what can i say americans lol
Were all arabs/african yet we discriminate against eachother no one owns the land its just land that people need to live together in peace
It's crazy how one of the guys got a Arabic name but was speaking Spanish.
Western Sahara was controlled by Spain for a long time. Hell, Polisario is a Spanish acronym
Vice news indeed.
Where's the other point of view ?
There really isn't much to talk about when it comes to the other point of view. Morocco believes they have claim over the Western Sahara because of historic ties to some of the native inhabitants of the land, which was mentioned in this documentary. What else really needs to be said?
Jonathan Lee, it's not you to decide. People have a brain and they can think with elements. That's the role of a media. Moroccan point of view is not explained, lies are not denied with facts/
This documentary is completly one sided. That's not jounralism but propaganda.
@@jonathanlee2099 , I realize that there are restrictions on media in the Moroccan controlled areas but I would have liked to have heard from the Moroccan residents as well as the Saharawi.
You have to fight for independence not wait for it. Don't complain about your free aid if all you do is sit around and wait for the world to come for you.
Griffin Fisher keep dreaming
the war is god for morocco, it will be the occasion to exterminate that virus called polizario.
how can you even say otherwise
its not forgotten if no one knows about it.
WESTERN SAHARA IS MORROCAN !!!
MOROCCO IS SPANISH
@@xkxkxixmdjknkcovixiskosid7282 morocco occupied spain for 800 years
Free western sahara
No Disrespect To no Ones Religion. But y is it that in places we're Religión is a most. Is we're is more at war? This are sad and harts broken images. No one should live in this conditions for man Power. May the peace be conquer Soon🤝🙌😇
im from dakhla and sahara is moroccan ???
I heard them speaking in French Arabic and Spanish ??
we moroccans are half berber,arab,spanish,french
your mama Oh that makes a lot of sense now.
+Billiam Anonymous the conolialism did it :p
Billiam Anonymous moroccans are technechly( i don't know how to spell that) berbers( native people from north africa). In the time of the omajadeen, morocco was colonized by arabs( that's why morocco got a high population of arab speakers). Later in the beginning of the 19nth century morocco got colonized again by france and spain( northern morocco was spanish and western sahara too)(central was french)
And then civil war broke out in 1922 between france,spain and the berbers from the north. Why? Bcoz the berbers of that time wanted to unite and form an independent state( by abdelkrim al gatabbi). The berbers won :-) they kicked the spanish front and the french republican army out of morocco and now we arabs and berbers live in peace and we hope that there won't be another civil war.
+your mama You can't be half of 4 things, you mean 'quarter'.
This did not age well
Imagine escaping all of this, coming to America, and realizing people are whining over someone saying there are only two genders
Why were some of them speaking spanish?
western sahara was a spanish colony
Brainwashed by the spanish
the Story Right, but why did the Polisario military mobilization for innocent children
these people shit in a hole , you think they gonna care about your human rights?
VICE I don't trust you anymore
FAKE NEWS??
L0L
Its funny right,,Spain used to be Morroco's colony in medieval time, but centuries later, the power been other way around, Spain colonized Mooroco and left behind this conflict..
well that wan't morroco, by omeyas and 2 different group of north-west africans: almoravids and almohads
#vicenews we are waiting for an other video of the other side of the story: the point of view of moroccans about sahara and why they believe it's moroccan, it's not fair to show just one side of the story, #sahara is Moroccan
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they are the dogs of algerian military power not more
i'm sahraoui , and sahara is morrocan
You are moroccan not sahrawi
Anyone know what type of guns those are at 4:14 ?
Moka-7-la
ما أجمل شواظى مدينة العيون الساحرة.