How to get "Dilla Time" with this "swing independence exercise" (J Dilla groove)

Swing Independence exercise.
I had expressed this concept to explain how to get the groove in question, by swinging a single limb at a time, (a single element of the drums and then all together) in this order: Hi Hat, Kick and Snare (although the snare it shouldn't be swinging because in this case it always plays backbeat).
I wanted to share my analysis/exercise with you, because it is the same concept that J Dilla applied with the Drum Machine. And in my opinion this is the right approach to deal with these grooves.
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[@JT-si6bl]

Sik as f. prbly the best 30 sec lesson on groove yet.

[@RolfWamFjell]

Well done 👍 This is great!

[@BennieTriplets]

Wow that was impressive

[@zapatatheghost90026]

Super dope n to the point

[@billbuchen5739]

nice groove!

[@francescovarchetta4711]

Thanks!

[@JulianFernandez]

niceee

[@tresvecesno7071]

Thanks for create and share.
I ear the difference but I think I'm not capable to replicate that in the drums, so how would be the jdilla feeling in a transcription? Maybe I could understanding in that way.
Thanks in advance

[@francescovarchetta4711]

Hi Tres, thanks for your interest!
For transcription it's like swing, there's no real way to write it.
For me the best way would be to get used to this type of language thinking it as you think of swing and interpreting it in the most natural way possible, listening to a lot of music inherent to the genre.

[@tresvecesno7071]

@@francescovarchetta4711 I understand. I think with the subdivision of 5 it can be achieve but i don't have any software program to do it.
I'm going to do as you say.
Thanks!

[@prospectnyc]

@@tresvecesno7071 Not sure if this helps, but Roger Linn had this answer about the swing in MPCs (which is technically different than Dilla's,) . Even if it doesn't help, it's interesting: "Linn: “Swing - applied to quantized 16th-note beats - is a big part of it. My implementation of swing has always been very simple: I merely delay the second 16th note within each 8th note"

[@LucasSpurrell]

Regular swing is swung on the entire kit at the same time.
Dilla swing is only swung one piece of the kit at a time.

[@shakefishgamingpro]

What hh you using?

[@francescovarchetta4711]

In this video I used “Sabian HHX Dave Weckl signature 14”

[@shakefishgamingpro]

thanks man! @@francescovarchetta4711

[@chriscash782]

Still a little too on the grid but nice attempt. Some better examples to check out are "Quintuplet or just FEEL IT?! J Dilla Time on Bass: around 41:25 , 35:26 , 33:50 , 35:33

[@francescovarchetta4711]

Hi, thank you for your support! 🙂
I know the quintuplet method, but it's not the right flow, too mechanical. In this video I wanted to demonstrate that that drumming is achieved simply with SWING. I taking the place of a drum machine, with independent swing potentiometer for each drum piece, thus obtaining that "hip hop" flow.
it's on the grid because I played it just like I was a machine, to give you an idea. But it is obvious that it must be even more internal as an intention.
🥁

[@chriscash782]

Honestly you're kick drum is very much on the grid which is kind of mechanical. I know what you are trying to do but it ain't correct. Snare is way off as well and I know Dilla used early and late snares but they were still on time in a weird way hard to explan as I'm not a drummer just a beat maker. Sorry if I'm overly critical i'm just a person who studies Dilla a lot and tries to replicates his beats thus why I'm hear on the various takes almost everybody does it wrong. I really suggest those timestamps I put because those guys really captured "some" of the Dilla feel as he had various rhythms like that. @@francescovarchetta4711

[@Benaddicted11trkfbal]

what a douchey condescending thing to say..

[@chriscash782]

Well thats just like your opinion Mannnnn@@Benaddicted11trkfbal The reality is everybody posts videos of "Dilla Swing" And 90% completely get it wrong. I did say nice attempt though and I was just trying to give constructive criticism but I understand how a lot of soy boys like you would take it that way

[@dickyliu12]

thank you for this, I found a masterpiece thanks to you

[@prod.lanista]

Can I sample that? lmfao

[@francescovarchetta4711]

oh yes!

[@RolandDuke]

Or if ya have young children just hand them a pair of sticks and press record

[@oscart3581]

It's a bit too much. Dilla made it sound discrete.

[@francescovarchetta4711]

I agree. This is an example, even a little exaggerated. To state that all this is achieved simply with the swing.

[@paulwagner4028]

nice groove!

[@devinwessels]

hey paul