@@jtmcdowell2331 I think also the dices betray you way more than they should and Nick saves were way too good. Those greater demons should have been at least half HPs between the first and second turn. Your play was impeccable. The dices were the real culprit today.
I don't think it was the dice personally. Nick played better, JT made a lot of positioning mistake. I would too, the art of war guys are in another league, their life revolves around competitive 40k.
OMGFTW !!! Nick is here. The myth the man the legend. I started learning competitive 40k watching his videos. What a collab, what a treat. JT and his eldar finally. Give this demons what they deserve man.
@@ArtofWar40k I watch battle reports, datasheet reviews, tier lists etc on ArtofWar40k for really quiet a while. PlayOn + Artof40k in this cinematic format is amazing thing to see. Eldars got stomped. Watching Sisters of battle datasheet review on your channel rn. Having back thoughts on collecting penitent host haha.
@@ArtofWar40kecho as well that you were the first channel that got me interested in competitive play and went to my first RTT this year and plan on going to my first GT here in Florida soon! So great seeing you in the Play On studio playing Daemons!
Nice game, but as JT said he was the underdog with that list at the outset. I don’t know if I’d call that Eldar list “competitive”. Beautiful army though.
Amazing!! Didn't see this collaboration happening. Nick is a great player and art of war is an amazing channel. My two favorite 40k channels collide haha.
Great high level Guest Star, gj taking him on the channel. bring some WTC Canada team in the future too! we want to know them / their game. GG as always
I feel like JT needs more than a few bright lances and a d cannon if he is going into 4 greater Deamons. My friend will be asking where Kaine and 2 fire prisms
Kinda surprised JT doesn't use models like Khaine or the Yncarne. Teleporting out to replace a destroyed unit can be fatal for your opponent if that happens, and halving all damage would be super helpful in a fight like this
Don’t think the lists were really fighting fire with fire so to speak. JT probably could have won but went for a strat that relied on killing things and when they just didn’t die he was in bad spots and just got mopped up. Was always the underdog for sure but an amazingly painted army and still a great game to watch. Also these eldar losses are doing us lots of favours to stop people hating on them for being broken and OP 😉 haha.
24:33 The moment when you say it's OK but everyone knows it's not... or the Belakor: Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant... ;p
In games like this where it ended up one sided due to the dice gods, it’s always nice to set little goals on what you want to kill when you know you’ve lost.
Fantastic battle and love to see daemons. Recently swapped to daemons from death guard due to the greater daemons becoming strong! Truly fun to march them big boys up the board
Its been YEARs since I seen an Aeldari army like that, and infact last time I seen an Aeldar Tank was in Eternal Crusade (good bless his soul) in 2018 😭
I'm wondering if we will ever see a Grey Knights game at some point for this edition , it would be awesome but I don't think anyone on the channel plays them
This game brought to you by Gav Thorpe. Like... holy shit! I haven't seen such a shutout on the channel since that World Eaters match last time, and it wasn't nearly as bad as this!
Wants cleanse all eldar off the planet? Well Nick has my vote (beside the part i've played daemons probably most, happy to seem 'em here, having Nick play them is a great plus)
I don't want to sound rude, but Nick was perfect while roleplaying as Be'lakor. Even outside of tabletop game the light was much weaker than that one on JT
Just a question, how at 11:43 are the wraithguard able to go into engagement and still be able to shoot and at 12:20 the dire avengers disembark right in front of an enemy in engagement and can shoot? (I'm new)
I´m not an Aeldari fan in either way - but this episode was over after 10-15 minutes. I ended up fast forwarding through the whole video after that, which I usually don´t do. I´d greatly apprechiate it if you had somewhat evenly matched armies - it makes way much more interesting videos (and battles) to watch. This was nothing more than a bloodbath, and it was over even before it began.
He is playing a member of the national team of the usa. A top level pro. People shpuld have known what to expect from this. Everyone is talking about the dice here but there was some real skill on display that allowed the dice to do so.
@@PlayOnTabletop People always want to see a close game. But when you get games like this, I mean, it happens. Luck, the dice, whatever factor that happens to get this result, its just how it happens sometimes. Not everything can be close and tight. @PlayOnTabletop you guys are top tier. For me, I say, keep punching out the fights when they are like this. This stuff happens, and like you guys and your players say, there is always much to learn in defeat than winning. And I am sure JT will come back with a vengeance in his next match.
@@TheHinni1234 What was his "brilliant" strategy? He just put a blob of huge demons together and advanced brainlessly... I only see unbalanced armies and dice luck here.
they can change after the first reroll from either command or detachment rule. Enhancement fates messenger on Jester can change it after he rolled, even after reroll
I have to say, I think important to have it in there to show games where 1 side just brutalizes the other; tell dice stories, after all... BUT It feels appropriate to maybe "rerack" such one-sided games and reset for (hopefully) a more balanced experience. I'm glad your guest took a dub away, but as an audience member it was very much a "oh, hes just gonna win now." Kind of thing for me.
honest question on how to handle games like this, I attended my first tournament last week and had a horribly bad matchup (my chaos knights into voltan with no effective cover for my guys) and the game felt over turn 2 and frankly I was borderline going to pack up (it was the last game of the day) any tips on how to mentally do better and make games like this still feel fun for both my opponent and myself.
I mean part of that sounds like a terrain issue. A tournament table should have enough terrain for effective cover, especially with Knights new ability to shoulder barge through walls. In terms of handling a game like that. I had a game at my last tournament where I did really well with my Dread Mob game 1 and ran right into a 5 Demolisher Cannon Guard list, that game was literally over by turn 2 but we had a good laugh about how absurd it was
@scottdevnull5778 You're in a competitive setting, so there's always gonna be a little bit more pressure. To try to help yourself when you feel you're going a little on tilt, try to remember you're still there to play a game, enjoy your hobby. It's not just a simple game, it's one with dice someday the chaos gods just aren't on your side. And to keep it fun, try to figure out what's fun for you. Maybe you like to roll dice so you can just say screw objectives im just gonna shoot and fight. Or maybe you can just try having a conversation with your opponent, take the edge of the match. And maybe sometimes when the opponent isn't working with you, you're not enjoying yourself, you just wanna go home. Maybe then it's ok to just say "I'm sorry, I'm not winning this match and I'm tired so you got this well played"
I feel like people here arnt really appreciating the fact that this wasn't just dice. Nick is really damn good in this game and set things up so the fice could roll away with it. No offence to JD im not saying he is bad at all, but he was going against a pro. You can learn alot from a curbstomp game like this.
JT: "Nick, never splitfire."
Also JT, shoots at atleast 3 different greater daemons per turn.
Never said using the right gun for the right target was bad ;) I did get greedy with the firedragons however at that point it felt necessary
@@jtmcdowell2331 hi Mr JT. If you see this, I would love to see more drukhari. Love you!
@@jtmcdowell2331 I think also the dices betray you way more than they should and Nick saves were way too good.
Those greater demons should have been at least half HPs between the first and second turn. Your play was impeccable. The dices were the real culprit today.
The lesson I learned today : Never dont shoot Be'lakor.
Damn that was brutal AF. Almost wish the dice weren't so extreme so we could have seen more tactical play.
amen to that. Entertaining in a sense but also kinda boring with how one-sided it was
It is rough when the dice are so unbalanced.
I don't think it was the dice personally. Nick played better, JT made a lot of positioning mistake. I would too, the art of war guys are in another league, their life revolves around competitive 40k.
"The dice. He can't keep rolling like this, can he?"
*match is under 40min*
Uh-oh
Homie actually brought two greater demons, Kairos, and Be’lakor. Going for the throat with that list, that’s a lot of raw power
The youngest model in JT's army is probably old enough to vote at this point
That Aeldari list needs to face daemons with a daemon of their own. Where’s The Avatar of Khaine?
I am 1:30 minutes in the video and I already know who’s gonna win based on that demons list 😊
Nick and the Art of Wars guys really know their stuff. Pleasure to watch
These videos and your enthusiam really gets me out of some dark places at times. Thank you.
OMGFTW !!! Nick is here. The myth the man the legend. I started learning competitive 40k watching his videos. What a collab, what a treat. JT and his eldar finally. Give this demons what they deserve man.
@@Devianreal so glad you enjoyed the match and have been a long time fan! That is amazing!
@@ArtofWar40k I watch battle reports, datasheet reviews, tier lists etc on ArtofWar40k for really quiet a while. PlayOn + Artof40k in this cinematic format is amazing thing to see. Eldars got stomped. Watching Sisters of battle datasheet review on your channel rn. Having back thoughts on collecting penitent host haha.
@@ArtofWar40kecho as well that you were the first channel that got me interested in competitive play and went to my first RTT this year and plan on going to my first GT here in Florida soon!
So great seeing you in the Play On studio playing Daemons!
That was brutal. Happy to see my beloved Daemons slapping elves like they owe them money. Great game.
Wow, "Art of war" is on "Play On", I'm so happy lol.
Nice game, but as JT said he was the underdog with that list at the outset. I don’t know if I’d call that Eldar list “competitive”. Beautiful army though.
Amazing!! Didn't see this collaboration happening. Nick is a great player and art of war is an amazing channel. My two favorite 40k channels collide haha.
Jt, the voice of the heavens………..just leave the world bro! Chaos wants it 😂😂😂😂❤️
Sometimes you really just like a planet and don't want to leave
The one time I’m actually on the side of the Eldar. lol
Best batreps on the internet 👌
Love the Cyan and Yellow Aldari paint scheme
Great high level Guest Star, gj taking him on the channel. bring some WTC Canada team in the future too! we want to know them / their game. GG as always
Did someone randomly place Steve dice in some of JT's stuff!? Gotta be the case with those fate die rolls.
JT got annihilated not on the scoreboard but the actual board itself to. Holy crap
I feel like JT needs more than a few bright lances and a d cannon if he is going into 4 greater Deamons. My friend will be asking where Kaine and 2 fire prisms
Don’t know which to cheer for. I love chaos but that is a epic paint job on the eldar
2:40 such beauty! What a paint job.
Nick Nanavarti....that's a name I haven't heard since his Knights of the Game table days....
I’ve been producing content for Art of War!
@@ArtofWar40k Very cool! I'm gonna need to go check that out!
4+ Invulnerable saves and enormous models that are impossible to kill. Gives me flashbacks to 9th edition.
I think JT needs Space Marine Steve to come over and "bless" Nick's dice.
Yessss!! Keep the chaos coming!!!!
Nick is always a treat to watch !!!
Yeess, love me some more Daeomons action!
I love these battles. Well played!
I knew it was bad from the jump…. Loved it!
Like how can the demons have that many big baddies in one army?!
Kinda surprised JT doesn't use models like Khaine or the Yncarne. Teleporting out to replace a destroyed unit can be fatal for your opponent if that happens, and halving all damage would be super helpful in a fight like this
Don’t think the lists were really fighting fire with fire so to speak. JT probably could have won but went for a strat that relied on killing things and when they just didn’t die he was in bad spots and just got mopped up. Was always the underdog for sure but an amazingly painted army and still a great game to watch.
Also these eldar losses are doing us lots of favours to stop people hating on them for being broken and OP 😉 haha.
24:33 The moment when you say it's OK but everyone knows it's not...
or the
Belakor: Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant... ;p
Good game. Brutal as all Hell but amazing to watch.
In games like this where it ended up one sided due to the dice gods, it’s always nice to set little goals on what you want to kill when you know you’ve lost.
When dice are hot they're on fire. And that burning chariot took that literally.
That was a quick game.
Daemons in the house, KAIROS FATEWEAVER LETS GO!
Kairos has to be one of my favourite daemons in the lore, second only to Skarbrand
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
The emporium a man and demons of care of the team of worth
It was nice of JT to stop by for a brief visit to see Nick, since that is his house now after that game.
Fantastic battle and love to see daemons. Recently swapped to daemons from death guard due to the greater daemons becoming strong! Truly fun to march them big boys up the board
I like this Nick, can we keep him?
We tried, he said something about having to go back to Florida
Its been YEARs since I seen an Aeldari army like that, and infact last time I seen an Aeldar Tank was in Eternal Crusade (good bless his soul) in 2018 😭
Florida Man would be Daemons! Lmao! Great report!
Beautiful armies
JT either needs to get some new dice, or rebrand to 40k in 30 minutes..
These last two fights have been BRUTAL
40K in 30min were the old days
He needs to go back to playing Orks. He rolled like crazy when he was playing them!
I'm wondering if we will ever see a Grey Knights game at some point for this edition , it would be awesome but I don't think anyone on the channel plays them
Yeah...that demon army is hard-core
Just goes to show you, you could stick your entire army in the middle of the board and still win if the dice rolls are in your favor
@24:17 the word "Five" was not what I was anticipating with that "F" sound.
Fun game!
Godspeed, all.
This was a great example of putting a shooting army within charge distance, and having horrible target priorities.
brutal but cunning :D
Chaos, taking the blood for the blood god absolutely destroyed the aeldari
Nick and his demons treated still Eldar better than Black Library authors do
This game brought to you by Gav Thorpe.
Like... holy shit! I haven't seen such a shutout on the channel since that World Eaters match last time, and it wasn't nearly as bad as this!
My army eldar vs my [potential] second army deamons? Wow, who'da thunk it? RIP eldar but was fun to see!
Jeez JD need more some super firepower
Wants cleanse all eldar off the planet? Well Nick has my vote
(beside the part i've played daemons probably most, happy to seem 'em here, having Nick play them is a great plus)
Chaos!
Throw the towel throw the damn towel
I don't want to sound rude, but Nick was perfect while roleplaying as Be'lakor.
Even outside of tabletop game the light was much weaker than that one on JT
The territory where did the emperor of man and demerit of chaos
Yall crush content, what is the secret? how do you guys keep all this up?!
Can greater demons deep strike like they are in the shadow as theyre always in their own shadow ?
Just a question, how at 11:43 are the wraithguard able to go into engagement and still be able to shoot and at 12:20 the dire avengers disembark right in front of an enemy in engagement and can shoot? (I'm new)
I´m not an Aeldari fan in either way - but this episode was over after 10-15 minutes. I ended up fast forwarding through the whole video after that, which I usually don´t do. I´d greatly apprechiate it if you had somewhat evenly matched armies - it makes way much more interesting videos (and battles) to watch. This was nothing more than a bloodbath, and it was over even before it began.
We do try. But sometimes it doesn't work out that way. But we will continue to try and do it better next time
Sometimes, the dice are unfair, but players like JT make it fun to watch with their reactions.
He is playing a member of the national team of the usa. A top level pro. People shpuld have known what to expect from this. Everyone is talking about the dice here but there was some real skill on display that allowed the dice to do so.
@@PlayOnTabletop People always want to see a close game.
But when you get games like this, I mean, it happens. Luck, the dice, whatever factor that happens to get this result, its just how it happens sometimes.
Not everything can be close and tight.
@PlayOnTabletop you guys are top tier. For me, I say, keep punching out the fights when they are like this. This stuff happens, and like you guys and your players say, there is always much to learn in defeat than winning. And I am sure JT will come back with a vengeance in his next match.
@@TheHinni1234 What was his "brilliant" strategy? He just put a blob of huge demons together and advanced brainlessly... I only see unbalanced armies and dice luck here.
Another entertaining episode, but Aldari really needed the nerfs they dominated too long.
Me at the start of the video: JT is going to get stomped
I saw it coming but damn.
Did they proxy skulltaker for a bloodmaster? I keep seeing the skulltakers cape with the bloodletters.
What kind of sacrifice did he make to the dice god?
can eldar change dice to fate dice AFTER rolling? i thought you have to do it before rolling
they can change after the first reroll from either command or detachment rule. Enhancement fates messenger on Jester can change it after he rolled, even after reroll
Time for a Ynnari rematch. Burn these pesky demons!
Mr "Kill it til it's dead" decides to instead "Split fire to victory." How does it work out for him? About as well as you'd expect.
Right? Bahahahaha
where did you guys get the counters for wounds ?
I have to say, I think important to have it in there to show games where 1 side just brutalizes the other; tell dice stories, after all...
BUT
It feels appropriate to maybe "rerack" such one-sided games and reset for (hopefully) a more balanced experience. I'm glad your guest took a dub away, but as an audience member it was very much a "oh, hes just gonna win now." Kind of thing for me.
Funny game, but obviously very one sided. JT is such a jewel though, and nice seeing AoW on the channel
2 fate dice for saves in the first turn!?
Fun game, but I would say that the elder list was not very competitive. Kind of hard to see it’s goal for me 🤷♂️
Jesus JT got absolutely bullied like an infant. Kinda hurt to watch. Well done AoW.
Not anaming any names, but someone may have made a dark pact to roll as they did
War walker with missile launchers? Never got a shot off with the d cannon? It just looks like when you have guests you let them win
You did rig the dice right?.....right?
honest question on how to handle games like this, I attended my first tournament last week and had a horribly bad matchup (my chaos knights into voltan with no effective cover for my guys) and the game felt over turn 2 and frankly I was borderline going to pack up (it was the last game of the day) any tips on how to mentally do better and make games like this still feel fun for both my opponent and myself.
I mean part of that sounds like a terrain issue. A tournament table should have enough terrain for effective cover, especially with Knights new ability to shoulder barge through walls.
In terms of handling a game like that. I had a game at my last tournament where I did really well with my Dread Mob game 1 and ran right into a 5 Demolisher Cannon Guard list, that game was literally over by turn 2 but we had a good laugh about how absurd it was
@scottdevnull5778 You're in a competitive setting, so there's always gonna be a little bit more pressure. To try to help yourself when you feel you're going a little on tilt, try to remember you're still there to play a game, enjoy your hobby. It's not just a simple game, it's one with dice someday the chaos gods just aren't on your side.
And to keep it fun, try to figure out what's fun for you. Maybe you like to roll dice so you can just say screw objectives im just gonna shoot and fight. Or maybe you can just try having a conversation with your opponent, take the edge of the match. And maybe sometimes when the opponent isn't working with you, you're not enjoying yourself, you just wanna go home. Maybe then it's ok to just say "I'm sorry, I'm not winning this match and I'm tired so you got this well played"
@@richarddrost5737 thanks for the reply
Nick rolls like crap, JT jokes on him, the dice teach JT a lesson. :D hahahaha.
At about 10min JT uses a second gate dice this phase… I thought Eldar was allowed one use of fate dice per phase?
Second fate dice that turn, one in shooting, one in combat - which is allowed since shooting and combat are different phases
@@alsu6886 thanks I’m must have missed the change in phases
For those unaware, Nick is one of the best 40k players in North America. JT did awesome all things considered. ( A.K.A the dice said no.)
Hey I have a question. What is that music you're using for Chaos turn 1? Is it house music?
you leave your eldar out in the open, they die, how surprising.
So i dont play 40k, and I know we are on 10e rules now and Ive beeen binging Play On, is there no more psychic phase in 10e??
Nope, psychic powers are either guns or data sheet abilities.
@@Dementia55372 Oh damn, that's a huge change.
I love this channel, but I do have a question. Why does JT wear a hat that says Dj?
That's my son's hat from when I coached him.
I feel like people here arnt really appreciating the fact that this wasn't just dice. Nick is really damn good in this game and set things up so the fice could roll away with it. No offence to JD im not saying he is bad at all, but he was going against a pro. You can learn alot from a curbstomp game like this.
That was horrendous
Good to see Daemons on the channel, but that list was way too sweaty. The game was lost before it even started.
the dice failed JT so hard, rough.