Listening to the upgraded 600m - Danny's observations.
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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In this weeks Tech Talk, Danny Richie from GR-Research walks us through part 3 of upgrading the Klipsch RP-600m's, taking them to a whole new level.
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I learned more about speakers from this video series than i have in 10 years of being an enthusiast, well done!
Yes this guy has got a serious case of the smarts
This is how reviews should be for speakers. Love it.
I have a tip that is too good not to share. I made the GR upgrade on my 600s. (adding bracing too) $500 speakers now sound like $2k speakers. My stands have the tweeter at ear level. I adjusted my stands to tilt the speakers back so that the tweeters are aimed 8" above my ears at the listening position. The sound stage opened up massively. Instrument separation, air, and the speakers became transparent in the room. This is the other 50% of this upgrade IMO. I have listened to many expensive speakers and now these sound like you're listening to $5k+ bookshelf speakers. Please try it, only investment was a bit of time.
Don't sell yourself short as a reviewer, Danny. This was one of the better speaker reviews I've seen on RUclips. Enjoyed the whole series. I need these things like another hole in my head but I'm trying to figure out a way to buy a pair, mod them and fit them into my house. Maybe for my office rig. Thanks!
I agree Joe. I think Danny just proved he can hold his own with the best of them out there.
Thank you, Klipsch people should be happy that such good ingredients were put in a budget product. The realities of keeping a lot of people employed building products a lot of people will buy will always force some corner cutting. The hobbyist can buy the upgrade package, put some time into doing the work and square up some of the corners that were cut.
Dude they have engineers who designed the product, do you think you are smarter than the engineer?
@@MasterofPlay7Where did you get the idea I was promoting myself as smarter than the engineers at Klipsch?
@@johnhodgson5313 hence those mods are not really valid in that regards
Thank you Danny, You open my eyes to speaker upgrade modifications.
Great Videos Danny! Learned a lot from this series. This really makes me want to see the crossover before making a final purchasing decision. The crossover seems to be that one magical component that most speaker manufacturers hide. Images of drivers and cabinet construction abound. But, crossover networks seem to be the think we don't talk about enough. Well, except for you. Which is a good thing.
Danny this was a great way to learn what to listen for when comparing speakers in the same price zone.
Then if you add a upgrade to them your self, would be rewarding. I learned a lot,thank you for your expertise.
Danny, if anyone has visited your website (notwithstanding some needed cyber upgrades) I think they know where you're coming from but hearing it based on your current projects is exactly what keeps many of us coming back. Thanks for this video series. I hope there will be many more!
Yes and sound clips
I have a guy that does webpage work that I am hoping will design an all new website for me next year. And yes, it has needed it for a while.
This entire video series was great. It was very informative. Thank you for this and please do more in the future.
Wow, I have learned more about speaker design from Danny then any other source. Danny connects the dots and show us in a very hands-on way. Keep up the good work. thank you!
Your new name is godfather of audio great commentary on a pair of speakers.thanks again.
I've really enjoyed this series. Thanks for your time!
I listened to the A/B and was really nice! I ordered the kit today! Well done as I know it will sound even better live!
I just use a vintage Yamaha 10 band equalizer that I've used for years and the problem is solved , but honestly was a very slight problem to begin with. I have a plentiful amount of mid range without tearing apart a brand new pair of speakers.
Although the mid-range issue seems to persist through streaming and listening to CD's . While listening to vinyl these speakers sound perfect for the money even with my EQ off but that's just my ears and opinion.
This was a great video, review, & demo.
I think if anyone has done their research and are 100% honest with themselves about what so many consumer products are, this stuff is understood just not admitted to.
I think the kit is a great idea to not only improve a very good quality budget level product but this also provides an audio enthusiast with some basic design/implementation framework to show how it can influence the actual quality of sound.
Thanks Danny for sharing your experience and expertise.
So your video popped up so i watched it and let me just say .....thanks! ....i litterly 20 minutes ago thought I had a really good system and I've been extremely happy with it for years! You litterly took all that away in 20 minutes!! I litterly want to give in my house and scrap my entire system! You litterly took the joy right out of me!! Thank you very much pal!! Oh yeah ..Merry Christmas!!
Thank you Danny, for sharing tribal knowledge on this very public forum for the purpose of enlightening others. I'm not a Klipsch fan (never liked horns), but Klipsch folks should be pleased to know you found these worthy of your time developing an upgrade.
Keep up the great work, and be encouraged to continue bringing the message to us via RUclips. I sincerely appreciate your insights.
If you get a chance, I'd like to hear your thoughts on Linkwitz LXmini and/or LX521 - thanks!
then dont go to live concerts lol......lots of horns.
This is great. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Wow! You give very accurate description of the sound character! It's so vivid and comrehensive.
Thank you for taking the time to do this.
Awesome job Danny!
I really appreciate, all that you do for us...
I hope you still have kits.
I'm going to give it a try, with a guidance from a friend.
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God Bless!
george
San Antonio
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Hey Danny thanks for a great series! Your videos make a great instruction manual for a DIY upgrade of these speakers. It totally rocks that we viewers can order the parts kit from you that you used in this series. Happy Holidays Danny!
GR Research now offers completed speakers but I don't think Danny had his assembly guy when this was filmed.
i Would to see the impedance plot for your modified 600m's that should be interesting keep up the good work I dont know why speaker manufacturers still cost cut on their crossovers parts and still charge a lot
Happy klipsch RP-600M owner for two months. I love bookshelf speakers. They sit on very heavy metal stands full of sand. The sand comes from the Normandy beaches used during D-Day landings. They didn’t make a spectacular upgrade from Monitor Audio Bronze B2. I got an incredible deal. Plenty of dynamics that work well with my Yamaha RN-803d using Qobuz. This is a fun speaker. I tried a pair of Klipsch Heresy 3 yesterday at my local hi-Fi store. Too big for my stands ! Was blown away by the mid-range, precision and just about everything. The truth is we can upgrade all the time! I’ve loved watching this series about how to upgrade what was quite an expensive purchase for me. Is this the path I want to make upgrading? I don’t know yet. Perhaps building my own speaker could be the challenge I’m looking for. Perhaps my son will love the Klipsch? I’m sure he will.
Danny, I am an intelligent guy, quick learner and have always had a curiosity for things I enjoy in this world. Your knowledge is astounding to me. I will quit my job tomorrow and work for you for free to just sponge off of your mind! HAHA!! Seriously, if only.....*ugh*.....Thank you for your eloquently verbalized videos for us humans that have limited funds.
I know the topic of "burn-in" is controversial for most folks, but being a modifier as well, I usually break in my crossovers that have poly-caps by placing dummy loads on them and running noise for about a day or two at higher wattage rating to allow them to "form". Night and day difference after burn-in.
Thanks for the wrap up. I loved the series and I look forward to whatever is next.
This is insane! I want those studio monitors!
Thanks so much, Danny. I very much appreciate what you do, and I understand exactly where you’re coming from. Can’t wait to hear the comparisons.
Thanks again!
Is the kit still available? I can't seem to find it. Please post a link to the kit so I can purchase. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks a lot for giving an idea of what you are doing!
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Merry Christmas and Happy/Safe New Year to you, the wife and little ones!!
Would this upgrade apply to a Klipsch RP-160M? The specs appear to be identical to the 600M, although the dimensions of the 160M is a bit larger than the 600m.
It might, but I really don't know for sure.
Cool stuff.. Thanks guys.. 👍✌️
Thank you Danny. Excellent video and talk.
Great discussion. Poor Danny he was almost pleading and rightfully so. But regardless he made me laugh. I didn't need though I certainly appreciated his explanation. I can say two things surprised me. One, the Power Conditioner in his reference system. Two, his using batteries to run the system though I understand why.
I feel so bad about posting this earlier comments. Here was the problem. Having the speakers in a large living room and listening from about twelve feet away I thought this was not a good upgrade. I judged them unfairly. I decided to take them apart and check every step. The first disassemble worked out fine. The second one, however, I found that the tweeter solder had failed when I mounted it. Reconnecting and evaluating again--WoW what a difference. Pays not to judge to rapidly. Please accept my apologies.
Thanks Danny for such a great upgrade.
When you mentioning opening the lips of the singer caught on the microphone I think of Diana Krall.
When listening to my system I hear this even the spit from the mouth stuck between two lips as the skin pulls apart. When somebody is playing the bass and it’s rubbing up against their body you can hear if they are wearing blue jeans or if it’s a women wearing silk or satin dress you can hear the texture of the persons skin on their fingers when strumming the strings if it’s smooth skin or if they have calluses with heart broken skin.
Being able to hear somebody in the studio flip the pages on music or the air conditioning coming on in the background or a musician tapping their toe to keep time all this kind of stuff that you cannot hear out of a normal set of speakers on average every day big box store equipment.
Good job 👍
Yep, you get it. Thank you.
Sometimes that can be too much for some people! I dont think so but some prefer less information coming out of the speaker!
Here is an exerpt from an email I sent to a friend a while back that relates to this...
The sound of LXmini is fantastic! Best sound I've ever heard. The 'airyness' of the highs is amazing, listening to other speakers now a waste of time. They use 3" Seas full-range drivers for highs & upper mid, cross-over to mid-bass at 700Hz (by DSP) along with some other DSP shenanigans. There is something very special about the cardioid response of the full-range driver. It has so much detail (easily good as my B&W in that regard), but never sounds harsh, no hint of sibilance (like B&W). This audio theory certainly deserves implementation - to me, cardioid response is a necessity for future designs. Now on to the upward-firing 5.25" mid-bass. This driver is mounted in a sealed tube of particular volume, diameter and length, stuffed with acoustic fill to create an "infinite transmission line" enclosure. It hits incredibly low (for its size) and perfectly balanced with other frequencies. Very natural balanced sound and tone. For music, no need for subs. Linkwitz' design is genius. Any improvement could only come from better gear (they are accurate and I hear nuance that I didn't even hear with the B&Ws) and if subs are desired, the LXmini's would be done an injustice with anything other than fast open-baffles. Compared to other speakers, they are smooth, natural, delicate. They can play very loud (louder than I would listen) but never sound loud - if that makes sense.
Wife's impressions, "Is it just those playing?" "I can tell the way they moved their mouth." "I'm hearing more details" "These seem loud and quiet at the same time"
No joke, I've heard new instruments in the background on songs I've listened to critically (repeatedly many times recently while evaluating all these speakers over the past year). I've heard differences in chorus 'repetitions' that I never heard before. Most importantly, the emotion of the musician is there, to the point you can tell if they were 'feeling it' or not. The sweetness, anger, sadness, etc. is revealed in their voice (micro-inflections?), pick hitting the string, fingers slapping the keys, etc. You get so much more information, authenticity becomes transparent. Listening sessions become more emotional, and maybe less about the music. I find myself listening for the emotion of the artists, and do they sound authentic to the song... are they feeling it?
Marc Wanner Linkwitz LXmini’s are amazing. I build my own Class A Amps and per-amps and attend the Burning Amp festival were Linkwitz would show off his speakers. I just built the LXmini line stage bi-amp line stage analog crossover that was a collaboration of Nelson pass and Linkwitz. My LXminis are coming. Of course I have to build one of Danny’s 7 1/2 foot tall line stage speakers to.
I have heard those and they have some nice qualities but for me they are a big step backwards. Marc, send your friend over and I'll introduce him to a whole new level of performance.
I will say that I very much enjoyed this video series, but it absolutely ruined my expectation of the 600m I was considering buying. It's depressing to know that unless you can spend $200,000 on stereo equipment, it's not even worth bothering with. Just pick some speakers and go home and try to enjoy your music. This world isn't for people like us
great video. thanks for the review and excellent projects
Nice to hear honesty and not someone saying nothing but good because they only want to sell sell sell.
Ur videos are incredibly informative and educational and a great contribution to the audiophile world!
Great series and insight.
Thank you for these great videos. :)
I ordered one of your kits (Marijan from Croatia) and cant wait to put it together.
After watching some of your videos i am wholeheartedly convinced that if you want good speakers that are worth their money,
you gotta go DIY, period.
The RP-160Ms are the last ones I bought and did not build myself with handpicked parts - just how I do with my High End PC business.
Thank you for opening my eyes,
I wish you and your family and friends at New Record Day and GR Research a happy and merry Christmas!
Thank you, and your order shipped out yesterday. Merry Christmas to you as well.
I love the old photos of Danny Richie, the ones with the long hair. He looks like the 80's Rock stars in them.
I agree!
So much great information, appreciated. Particularly when sharing the experience of designing crossovers for a speaker company (17:15), mind a question this brought up?
The lesson here seems to be if one is on a limited budget and desiring to upgrade, start with the system rather than speakers, correct?
TIA
Great engineering work! Thanks for taking the time on this budget speaker project!
Thank you for comparing these against speakers of the very best performance. It gives us a gauge that most reviewers will not touch. Excellent work!
Could you look at the KEF R3 next?
I just take a look at what people send me.
Do the kits have directions or videos to reference? I can solder but I have no knowledge of electronics.
I just got the Sixes for Christmas and holy crap are they good, have fun with yours... 🤗
What has impressed me the most is the taming of a bucking bronco with anything and everything imaginable wrong with it and changing the frequency response dramatically for the better, as well as refurbishing and reinforcing a flimsy, resonant, boomy cabinet.
With these changes I just may able to live with it and enjoy it, maybe even a lot.. Currently I just can't stand its flaws. But they turn out to be fixable! (with a bit of TLC)
Of course, this nearly places the price near 1000 Euro, and there are a lot of excellent speakers that sound great without rolling your sleeves. Maybe buy a used Klipsch and update it :-)
Klipsch should build a "GR Systems limited edition" to your parameters and pay you a royalty per speaker sold.
The open two way speakers look fantastic, are they available as a kit or can you buy them completely ? What is the price for these speakers ?
You can see a development thread on the studio monitors here: www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=160647.msg1713826#msg1713826
Prices are also listed in that thread.
@@dannyrichie9743 Thank you...Fantastic
Man I wish more reviewers were engineers. Danny isn't the reviewer we deserve, he's the reviewer we need! Thanks to you Danny and Ron for working together to make this happen. I expect more from you both in the future.
Outstanding , very informative review !
Now i need to know how to get the crossover kit and the price
Any info would be great,
Thanks, Ted
Thank you Danny for this mini series! many audiophile terms are much clearer to me now.
Hey man! I love the honesty in your videos I have two pairs of these I wouldnt mind possibly upgrading in the future. One thing I do like about this speaker is the extended, but fairly flat, high end. How it goes out to 23khz. To me personally it adds more energy to what I'm listening to and if I were to make this upgrade would I be losing the extended high range?
Elac Unifi UB5 next please. Huge embeded base of product.
@@kohnfutner9637 UB5 just needs good clean power to shine
@@kohnfutner9637 OK, great. Still a bit disappointed in that it seems he can't ring out just a bit more performance though.
@@kohnfutner9637 Really I can't say much negative about these, especially $450 for mine. It would be nicer it it had higher sensativity.
I use am outlaw 5000 and denon avr 3400h with my ub5. The outlaw is a great deal and easily drive the speakers and more
Using a Emotiva A-150, Wish I would have saved and got the A-300 though. Preamp is Emotiva PT-100. Schiit DAC. An you can search youtube copper box that rocks for custom sub.
Great video who makes the line forces?
If we ever get stock on our new Neo 10's then we will be offering them again.
Count me in as interested in the line forces
Great video. Very informative. Can't wait to watch the comparison video now! Would love to hear some feedback from Klipsch too.
I love that you talk about listening for cues in music such as hearing a singers lips make that little noise as they open their mouths to sing. Would you be willing to share some of the tracks you use for your critical listening?
That would be a long list. Let me get back to you on that.
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I was going to ask the same favor of you, Danny! The Jennifer Warnes "Way Down Deep" is a standout track and excellent for testing what you described.
As a side note: If you don't have them already, check out the "Are You Authentic? Audio Check" (AYA) SACD test disc from the Stockfisch Records label.
And any of the releases from Opus 3 Records...you might start with their compilations, which are the "Showcase" and "Test CD # x" releases.
Mappleshade Records is another of my favorite labels for realistic, "you are in the room" acoustic recordings.
www.discogs.com/Various-Test-CD-4-Depth-Of-Image-Timbre-Dynamics/release/8522930
www.discogs.com/Various-AYA-Authentic-Audio-Check/release/10009073
www.discogs.com/label/261355-Mapleshade-Records
Another of my "newer" reference albums is the *Steph Johnson Trio, Nature Girl* album. Just a fantastic recording! Check out sample tracks at the following links and purchase if you like what you hear.
Again, the quality of the recording is top notch and you feel as if you can reach out and touch the instruments in the room...
www.amazon.com/Nature-Girl-Steph-Johnson/dp/B00EPEOB3O
store.cdbaby.com/cd/stephjohnson3
Danny, it would be awesome to learn what some of your other demo/testing/reference tracks are and WHY you chose them???
Maybe start with a list of 10 Reference Songs and then make it a regular segment at the end of each Tuesdays Tech Talk video to list one or two more Reference Tracks in each episode?
Afterall, we do ALL this for The MUSIC!
Brilliant upgrade Danny!!! A question from my end: How does the voigt design speaker cabinet perform to an open baffle system considering the set of driver and crossover(may vary slightly with the measurements) be?? Thanks in advance for your feedback...Cheers!
Great job!
Looks like PS audio should come to you for help ;-)
Thanks again Danny, learnt a lot, even though I will never buy a set of them. Answering questions on Xmas day, what a champion dude and glad that the Klipsch owners are taking advantage of a custom upgrade package.
Getting used to your (and Ron's) accents from here in Australia and wish you both a great festive season as we wake to Boxing day here.
What do you think of the SVS Ultra bookshelf speaker
Where can I buy the upgrade kit for these bookshelf Klipsch speakers?
Klipsch has a reputation as a bright and forward speakers!
Is this the case with the rpm 600?
Is there any upgrades on my Klipsch Fives?
So curious what your findings are about the Svs Ultra BS / tower ?
No one has sent me one of those yet.
I, like most of the others here, really enjoyed this series and I'm sure I'd find the so called, upgraded, RP-600's an improvement. I say so called because while there are those of us who are used to better than the Klipsch can provide, even after the upgrade, there's a reason that Klipsch has sold untold thousands of these over the last two years or so. And perhaps changing the sound signature to suit an audiophile type just might leave the average listener a bit cold. All that was done here is tailoring the sound to suit ideals that Danny holds and perhaps Ron will agree with when he reviews them. I suspect I would agree as well. However, it would be very interesting to get a stock set of these and let average Joes and Janes hear them side by side to see which they preferred. I guess you could tell them it was an experiment to test quality control of the two different samples purchased months apart just so they aren't influenced by the idea that one is "supposed" to be better. Let's see if Klipsch is missing out on an untapped market or whether they have voiced their speakers correctly for their intended audience.
What you think of Dick Sequerra and his pyramid / other speakers? Thanks. Joe
These open-baffle designs are cool. But I wonder if a sonicly transparent shroud couldn't be added to the back, to keep the guts free of dust. Maybe some panty-hose material over an open wire frame? EDIT: 8:53 yes like that, but for the NXes and super mini.
Can this be applied to the RP-160M
No before and after measurement with all the talk about the upgrade will take it to the whole new level??
He shows measurements in the very first episode of the series
You can see the measurements here too: www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=166535.0
Nothing wrong with upgrading the RP600Ms, it’s like buying a muscle car and than modifying it, you have to start out with something good, then make it better. It’s the hobby!
It's good to have your point of view as a designer of higher end audio, on audio gear that has been reviewed by many. I was one whom chose to get these speakers based on the many reviews ( did not have access to demo), only to find that I did not find them as special. I'm still listening, and after three months, they have not changed what I hear. Your take on them brings me to my next point: since your level of expectation from speakers sounds familiar to me, and you pointed out some of your speakers design; how can we have access to more info on these ( specs and prices)? Thank you for your contribution to helping better educate on audio gear.
Our products can be seen at www.gr-research.com or can be seen in our forum at the Audio Circle.
Thank you.
Great job Danny Thank you , wish i would of had someone like you around in my small town , I wouldn't of missed my calling into Audio gear , best i had in my small town was a radio shack and i knew more about audio gear than the sales person at 14 years old 😆
Just wondering. There is a loudspeaker kit sold by Swan and HiVi (on AMAZON), models 3.1 and 3.1A. That appears to be a fairly popular 3-way concept which Swan (M3) and Wharfedale (EVO 4.2) sell as completed bookshelf/ stand mounts.
The kit seems to have a popular following on the internet with many suggestions for upgrading and improvements. There are also several build out videos on RUclips.
I'm considering building a kit or buying the Wharfedale EVO 4.2 pair.
Do you have a comparable offering or commentable experience with these products?
Have you modified/upgraded M&K? Specifically the S-150thx? I would be happy to send mine in if needed but I'm sure you've had to have had access to one so your thoughts?
Sorry, I have not.
After watching this video now I don't know what I don't know.
I understand that you can have a much better speaker after the upgrades but why not buy something better after we know they are not good enough for the money? And they are over 650€ in my country.
Nice video. Thank you. What are the tall planar magnetic speakers next to the NX-Tremes? Are those made by GR or another company?
Development: www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=159717.0
Up and playing: www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=165469.msg1758639#msg1758639
@@dannyrichie9743 Amazing!!! Not a Klipsch fan, but I will definitely be following the LS development. Thank you.
Why would anyone disparage Dan for doing what he does? He's like John Lingenfelter or any other performance car tuner. He takes something pretty good, that has to be built at or under budget and says "If we take out the budget, how good can it be?"
Great review Danny! Would you recommend the upgraded X-Statik speakers or your new reference studio monitors?
I depends on the application and size of the room.
Medium to large room
Primarily as two channel application
@@gamecockspalmetto For a medium to large room I would go with the X-Statik's and a servo sub or pair of open baffle servo subs.
One last question. I hope I like the sound of these as I’ve never experienced open baffle but, like folded the electrostatic speakers I’ve heard. I know they are efficient but, do your think they would power well with a Halo A23 amplifier. Your website doesn’t say the X-Statik power handling.
What is your view of the fluance signature series bookshelf speakers?
Please do the center channel, Please 🤗. I think you would sell so much more if those of us with a 5.1 or more could match the front soundstage.
The center channel version is here.
Sorry, but where
I'll start work on the center channel model later this week.
Thank you so much for your efforts.
How would the improved 600M compare to a kit or speaker from GR Research? Like the A/V2 or Davanti, or something else I can't think of from GRR?
We have budget level pricing of kits but no real budget level products. So we really don't have anything in the same league as the 600M.
@@dannyrichie9743 I don't follow. You mean you have some kits that are around the same price as 600M+upgrades but those kits make much better speakers?
@@scotto541 That is correct. They are at the same price point, but a different performance level.
The reason you caught my attention, was when you were measuring a line array of stacked small loudspeakers. I could see that you were basing your statements on fact and not just opinion. There is too much flowery language in a lot of hi-Fi commentary; I prefer your plain speaking technical approach. It is interesting to me as I have a diploma in electronic and electrical engineering and, though working in business now, I used to work as an engineer, for the first few years of my career.
The iPhone cable source 😭😭😭
Are you still selling these kits? I can’t find it on your website? I would like to buy a set of these speakers and do this.
We don't create web pages for every upgrade we do on every speaker. If we did there would be about 400 of them. And I can design the upgrades faster than I can build web pages.
To order you need to give us a call at 940-592-3400 and use any credit card.
Or get me a ship to address and I can get you a total with shipping that you can cover using PayPal.
Thanks for the video. You have given me ideas on how to arrange my man cave. ☺Good review!
Make me interested in your great kits. But I will wait for your upgrade kit for my 600m arriving form you Danny and then going for the servo controlled open baffle subwoofer to use with the upgraded 600m (I believe in a bookshelf and subwoofer as the optimal solution). Then a book shelf kit from you later on is a valid way forward on the speaker front.
Happy holidays to you all!
Wondering if there is a crossover/network that you folks have for KLIPSCH RF7 II ? thxs
What do you guys think about creating a “wish list” of speakers we would love to see Danny tackle? What speakers would you like to see in a future series?
Klipsch Cornwall IV.
ELAC B6.2 which there are millions out there.
Zu Audio DWs, I have done a few little upgrades myself.
Kef R3 or any of the Klipsch Heritage line.
Dynaco a25s
This was my question about the 600m .
I dont even know were to begin to take these things apart let alone soldering shit .
well done Danny, it's a shame that people need to be negative about something that's fundamentally a positive thing. Having said that, there did seem to be a bit of a trend with Klipsch speakers. 'nuff said.
Hey Ron, this isn't on the Tues Tech Talk Playlist that I can see.
Fixed!