@@epeli0035 yeah I know that, I’m just saying like an air cooled 12 cylinder engine running 24 hours at a time, cause that’s bigger than the beetle engines by a lot, just bigger fan I guess
hate to be that german, but it's not a flat 12. It's a 180° V12, meaning two pistons share a crankpin unlike on a flat engine. Which of course also means: No it's not just 2x 911 engines stuck together, but an entirely new dedicated design which Hans Mezger came up with from the minimal instructions received by Piech: "We want to win at Le Mans. Take a look at the Porsche-Cisitalia concept. Do you feel up to the task?"
Hate to be that American, but what you are referring to is a Boxer engine. Referring to an engine as a Flat 4, 6, 8 etc., does not necessarily classify it as a horizontally opposed engine. A boxer engine is a flat engine, and the flat 12 shown here is still a flat engine. In the same way that all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.
@@MoswenMedia oops, maybe I got my international engine nominations mixed up - if that boxer nomination is in use in english, and the "flat-engine" name is more generic, then it works. The misunderstanding arose because there simply is no similar name in common use in german language (Flachmotor? Really never heard that getting used, it sounds a bit diminuitive, like something you'd call a powerless engine) that would include both cases, you always call a 911 or Subaru engine a boxer, while I've only ever heard them get called a flat6, flat4 etc.
@decnet100 It refers to boxers, or pugalists exchanging punches. If the pistons were gloved fists, then each stroke would be the piston punching the opposing cylinder head. I mean youre correct, they are flat engines, but theyre both also boxer engines. The Ferrari Testarossa is another example of the debacle of whether or not to call it a flat 12 or a 180 degree V12. When it comes to subaru, not so much Porsche, I hear them exclusively referred to as Boxer engines. Its even stamped on the Subaru BRZ engine "Boxer"
@@MoswenMedia well in German the Boxermotor is a *very* popular and wellknown designation, starting with the VW Beetle, which was ALWAYS referred to as a Boxer, and the 911 - every car-interested kid basically grows up using "Porsche" and "Boxer" in about as close a combination as "Wiener" and "Schnitzel", evsn today you'll find cutaway VW engines in driving schools as demonstrator pieces for "an engine" - and I agree, I rarely heard americans ever refer to it as such and assumed that was basically the known US name for Boxer engines.
@@MoswenMedia well at any rate, why I actually wanted to post this is to point out the feat of Hans Mezger, which in fact gets overlooked often - it seems natural to assume, Porsche had 2l flat 6 racing engines, so when they entered the 5l sportscar class with a flat 12, they simply slapped two of them together and increased the displacement a bit - when in fact they came up with a truly new engine based on a completely new crankshaft, that had different harmonics and lubrication needs to begin with, let alone doubling the number of cylinders. Yes it was theoretically advantageous, but they had no way of truly knowing before making the new engine. I still think 917 development was some of the ballsiest ever done in top level motorsports - full speed ahead, not even attempting to use known quantities, with no backup plan, and the entire company sitting in the back seat, taken along for the ride.
that starter sounds beautiful
I’m a simple man, I hear a flat 12. I hit the like button!
I love the angry sound of this engine, the 917K is one of the best things that happened to motorsports
An absolute beast
❤😊LA TECNOLOGIA, IL FASCINO E LA BELLEZZA DI QUESTA MACCHINA, RIESCONO A SEDURRE ANCHE IL PIÙ PROFANO TRA DI NOI!!! 😊❤.
beauty & beast 🔥
Niceeee, now I’m confused on how it’s air cooled since most vehicles aren’t but then we have a Le Mans car over like wassup
Its the most simpler cooling system and less weight than water cool
@@Warlock93 right which is understandable, I just never heard of air cooled cars till this thing, so I’m not sure how all that works
@@yoder903moron, idiotic unsenseless
@@yoder903The old volkswagen beetle had an aircooled engine, and the earlier porsches too.
@@epeli0035 yeah I know that, I’m just saying like an air cooled 12 cylinder engine running 24 hours at a time, cause that’s bigger than the beetle engines by a lot, just bigger fan I guess
BEAST👹
music to my ears
A real deal flat 12 mobile 😮
symphony 917 by Porsche
♥️♥️♥️
917. Not 197...
i go to sleep with this
So liebe Teslafahrer muss ein Auto klingen! 😁
hate to be that german, but it's not a flat 12. It's a 180° V12, meaning two pistons share a crankpin unlike on a flat engine. Which of course also means: No it's not just 2x 911 engines stuck together, but an entirely new dedicated design which Hans Mezger came up with from the minimal instructions received by Piech: "We want to win at Le Mans. Take a look at the Porsche-Cisitalia concept. Do you feel up to the task?"
Hate to be that American, but what you are referring to is a Boxer engine. Referring to an engine as a Flat 4, 6, 8 etc., does not necessarily classify it as a horizontally opposed engine. A boxer engine is a flat engine, and the flat 12 shown here is still a flat engine. In the same way that all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.
@@MoswenMedia oops, maybe I got my international engine nominations mixed up - if that boxer nomination is in use in english, and the "flat-engine" name is more generic, then it works. The misunderstanding arose because there simply is no similar name in common use in german language (Flachmotor? Really never heard that getting used, it sounds a bit diminuitive, like something you'd call a powerless engine) that would include both cases, you always call a 911 or Subaru engine a boxer, while I've only ever heard them get called a flat6, flat4 etc.
@decnet100 It refers to boxers, or pugalists exchanging punches. If the pistons were gloved fists, then each stroke would be the piston punching the opposing cylinder head. I mean youre correct, they are flat engines, but theyre both also boxer engines. The Ferrari Testarossa is another example of the debacle of whether or not to call it a flat 12 or a 180 degree V12. When it comes to subaru, not so much Porsche, I hear them exclusively referred to as Boxer engines. Its even stamped on the Subaru BRZ engine "Boxer"
@@MoswenMedia well in German the Boxermotor is a *very* popular and wellknown designation, starting with the VW Beetle, which was ALWAYS referred to as a Boxer, and the 911 - every car-interested kid basically grows up using "Porsche" and "Boxer" in about as close a combination as "Wiener" and "Schnitzel", evsn today you'll find cutaway VW engines in driving schools as demonstrator pieces for "an engine" - and I agree, I rarely heard americans ever refer to it as such and assumed that was basically the known US name for Boxer engines.
@@MoswenMedia well at any rate, why I actually wanted to post this is to point out the feat of Hans Mezger, which in fact gets overlooked often - it seems natural to assume, Porsche had 2l flat 6 racing engines, so when they entered the 5l sportscar class with a flat 12, they simply slapped two of them together and increased the displacement a bit - when in fact they came up with a truly new engine based on a completely new crankshaft, that had different harmonics and lubrication needs to begin with, let alone doubling the number of cylinders. Yes it was theoretically advantageous, but they had no way of truly knowing before making the new engine. I still think 917 development was some of the ballsiest ever done in top level motorsports - full speed ahead, not even attempting to use known quantities, with no backup plan, and the entire company sitting in the back seat, taken along for the ride.