The WORST SCOREBOARD in Monday Night Football HISTORY | Texans @ Saints (2019)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- ESPN... what the heck are you doing?
Imagine a scorebug looking so bad, so ugly, and so confusing that it gets changed in the middle of the game, and gets changed in the second half. Well, to open up the 2019 NFL season on Monday Night Football on ESPN, in a battle between the Houston Texans and the New Orleans Saints, that's exactly what happened. The scorebug looked so bad and was hated by everyone that it got changed in the middle of the game. This is the in-depth story behind that
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Rumor was that the reason they were able to make the change so quickly is that even internally, the issues were brought up before the game, yet some higher up still wanted it, but the people actually producing the game knew it wouldn't work, and had the other version created in the event they were vindicated by the fans.
I would not be surprised if that was true
Having worked several corporate jobs as the person making the things... this is 100% what happened. I've seen / been part of many similar situations.
The fact that it took so long for the score bug to be added, until Fox had the rights for NFL games is baffling.
As a game show fan, I agree. Even setting aside the real clock on "Beat the Clock", Password had real-but-chyron clock from its beginning in 1962, and Pyramid had a digital clock for every round of play from its inception in 1973.
When did Fox get the rights? Because I grew up in the 90s and always thought the score bug was a thing because it was just always there for me
@@princealigorna74681994 season
@@princealigorna7468 1993 or 1994, I think
the owner of fox? Convinced the idea
Before the score bug came around a guy could flip to the game and say “I’m just watching to see the score” and you could see a few minutes of the game. Awe… the glory days.
To me that's something that wasn't necessarily better in the "good ol' days." My boomer parents were clamoring for a permanent score bug in the late '80s.
Looks more yellow green (actually more green than yellow) or a dull neon green if you ask me. Actually the first thing I noticed was no team names or abbreviations, just the logos. I guess that MIGHT get a bit confusing, maybe...
I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't think that was a penalty flag marker.
Bally Sports did this too when they took over Fox Sports. That WOULD get confusing, especially for college sports when dealing with obscure teams you may not necessarily know by logo alone. I have to wonder who thought THAT was a good idea and approved it, speaking about Bally. Kinda makes the nicknames era of MNF mentioned here look like the best scorebug ever in comparison.
Looks like more of a greenish color to me. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill here.
5:02 It's worse than what these clips reveal. When they put a football in front of the score to show who has the ball, it looks like a negative score.
This scoreboard was used up until the January 2023 wild card round, when the Cowboys crushed the Buccaneers on the road. The "new" ESPN scoreboard this year isn't that much different than the previous scoreboard.
I respectfully disagree with the argument. The down and distance is light green and does not confuse me with yellow. I do agree using green is not a good idea .
The problem is that the green is chartreuse, which is too close to yellow in that role.
Maybe we’re colorblind. I see the difference between green and yellow.
Good for you. Everyone watching this that didn’t see the game live are just staring at the down and distance, but when you’re watching it live you’re watching the action. You see a flash that RESEMBLES YELLOW in the corner of your eye and you think it’s a flag.
Yeah, I will say that they’re pretty close in color but I never had an issue distinguishing which play was penalized or not
@@jazzyprince3335Your award is in the mail.
How are people confusing Yellow with Neon Green?
I know, right? I was thinking, "is everyone colorblind but me?"
Yeah I didn't see that problem with it in 2019. Pfft
It’s really easy to say that now from the comfort of your moms basement when you weren’t watching it live.
@BANGITSME87 no need to get butthurt over it
@BANGITME87 bro chill
Wait, what? I don't associate yellow with penalties, my immediate thought was the first down line. Probably that's the original idea. I get why it might cause issues I guess but I don't hate it.
Still better than the monstrosity FOX is using for college football now. And I thought this was going to be out the Dennis Miller years when the teams were referred to as FINS, VIKES, PACK, etc. (most ridiculously the Carolina Panthers being the CATS).
People actually like the Fox College football scoreboard though.
To be introduced to the word scorebug with so many uses so quickly has been wild for me
Scorebug received a lifetime ban from the NFL
I remember that one. It looked like there was a flag on every play. Helluva annoying and no wonder it got canned on speed dial.
I got a fun game: take a shot every time he says “yellow” 😂 (i am bankrupt from how many shots I have taken)
Didnt know about the scorebug. Got home from work around 6 so I missed the 1st half
I remember this vividly. 😂
Ngl, I feel like the reaction to this score bug was a bit over-the-top. I agree that making both the down and distance graphic and the penalty graphic pretty close to the same color was unnecessary as hell, but I could distinguish between a regular play and one that was flagged pretty easily.
The fact that the word “flag” came up to replace the down and distance graphic made it pretty clear in my mind which play was which, not even mentioning the other indicators that point to a flag being thrown.
I can understand taking a play or two to understand what the broad cast was doing since the two graphics were pretty similar in color, but idk how people were so confused for an entire quarter or even a whole half.
I think it was the right decision to axe the lime coloring for the down and distance graphic, but it never confused me.
And the Like/Subscribe prompts pop up right where the obnoxious yellow marker is.
Clever.
I remember this well. The part of the scorebug in question is more chartreuse than a straight yellow. Maybe using a true green for down and distance would've been a better choice.
NBC FOX and CBS changed them for each year a Super Bowl is hosted on the channel.
This video is also helpful because it shows how far the Texans have fallen off since 2019.
Yeah, quite the fall from grace. Hard to believe they were handily beating the Superbowl champs just before imploding. But it looks as though they're on the right track again.
NASCAR and Indycar have the same issue with their score bug whenever there's a sponsor that has a yellow color scheme, it makes me think that there's a caution on the track
You mean NASCAR has laps that AREN’T under caution? 😅
@@peacefrog0521 yes... Now ARCA on the other hand
I remember seeing this design the first time and wondering how it could have possibly gone through the process of being thought out, developed, finalized, accepted and implemented without one single person realizing the fatal flaw along the process... Without one person looking at it on the screen and saying hey guys, doesn't it look like a flag marker?
I literally remember watching that game and being so frustrated I turned it off and then a friend of mine texted me halfway through because we were talking about it and told me that they fixed it so I started watching the game again
Hmmm. Never heard of something like this happening. Good job, JG9.
pretty funny that the new version of this score bug was used for 4 seasons
Only changed when Joe Buck and Troy Aikman took over, IIRC.
I don't mind the color yellow, but that's a hideous shade--it's like the shade of a highlighter when it smears black ink.
Maybe it's just me, but the clock was more green than yellow.
Same
I agree
Need a video on the Boogermobile
What about ESPN making the score bug disappear after the play starts… That was one of the most infuriating things they have done recently. Want to check the score or down? No, screw you.
exactly, a baseball hitter's average isn't shown as he runs for a ground out
@@lorenzobeckmann3736well no, but the score still is.
like in the last decade?
@@timelymirror7826 They did this in like 2020 or 2021.
@@andykillsu It was actually the 2015 and 2016 seasons. Also yes I hated that so much too.
How about doing a video about when the penalty flags were pink for breast cancer month? I found that very confusing.
Honestly, just the fact that they made this change during the game is amazing.
The score bug and The Simpsons, which both include the color yellow are the only things that fox has done that has been positive.
Premier League was the first sports league to have a score bug.
The person who came up with the score bug worked for Sky Sports at the time, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox. One of the first things that was done after Fox got the NFC rights was to bring him to the States and introduce the bug to American audiences.
@@sirstewartwallace3917None other than David Hill. He changed sports TV here in North America.
I watched this game and man Twitter blew up during the first half with pictures of that yellow bug
13:16 I believe OJG9 has managed to identify the last time ESPN actually cared about what people didn't like about its product and changed it, or ever will.
lmao the way you say "yellow" hahahahaha
What was a bit worse was after that fix since the 2nd half of that game, ESPN still didn't turn the marker for a flag when a penalty was occuring, because they still kept it yellow text on a black box, when it was suppose to be a yellow box and in black text.
I’m old enough to remember watching games as a kid pre-score bug. It was so annoying, they would show the score occasionally, but not enough. You had to keep track of the score in your head.
I must be alone on this one. Because the downs color looked like a neon green, and the flags were the usual yellow
Worst scorebug go to ABC 2001 trying to be hip. In preseason game in Mexico City it was Raiders & Cowboys instead of OAK & DAL it was Raiders and Vaqueros
Given how 2023 has been the Season of the Refs, the 2019 score bug making every play seem like a penalty, would have been more appropriate for 2023.
This could've been a Dumb Decisions episode. 😁
Jason Witten looked like Adam West's doppelganger. He could be the next Batman
Will we get a video about the Boogermobile?
How hard is it to figure out after a few plays? It wasn’t that egregious
For some reason, I remember this game for all the ads saying that DirecTV was about to drop ESPN. Btw, that didn't happen.
Well contract disputes between TV networks and cable TV providers always happen and sometimes the channels get pulled temporarily or they get resolved before the deadline. Frankly it always came off as extremely childish when either side makes advertisements crying and acting like the victim by saying it's the other side's fault.
The ESPN scorebug I hated the most was the one where they kept making the scorebug invisible during every single play during the 2015 and 2016 seasons.
too atencion getting; study: Bricklin automobiles - only came with "brilliant" colors (yellow safety lines industry) for safety noticability. Samw with time outs remaining
Love seeing all the Breighdyns and Keighdyns who were probably in bed when this game was on in 2019 because they had to get up for 4th grade trying to be edgelords saying it’s green not yellow. In a live game you’re not looking at the bug, if you see a flash that resembles yellow out of the corner of your eye your first thought is flag. It’s really easy to watch it in hindsight and try to impress McKayghdenLee that you’re really cool and know it’s neon green.
I remember this game, the yellow was confusing AF
my mothers final saints game she watched
2:02 is when the annoying rambling stops. Nope, I was wrong. 4:46 is when he finally stops
Not defending ESPN here but the color used for the down and distance isn't the same type of yellow as a penalty flag. In fact it's almost green.
That being said the black looks much better
I was watching the Patriots vs raiders game and cbs had the Time Clock set to the color white
This is one of those times when I read the comments of a video and they're so horribly infantile, juvenile and puerile that it makes me root for the end of humanity. SMH.
I remember this game. I was like 'what? A flag? Oh wait it's just 3rd down.'
Two things: the graphic looks lime green to me (which IMO is worse-looking than yellow anyway) and the word "FLAG" is the exact same color as the down and distance marker, rendering the civil war in the comments over people being idiots for thinking green is yellow completely meaningless.
TBH I actually...don't remember this game at all. Even back then MNF had lost all its luster for me. I do remember both teams' playoff games but that's about it.
The current MLB on Fox scorebug might be the worst today. It's too big, it wasn't made with HD in mind, and it looks so cheaply done. It makes their broadcasts near-unwatchable.
The MLB on Fox scoreboard doesn't look that bad. Although other local broadcast shouldn't show the pitch clock at 10 seconds. It should be shown at 5 seconds.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld Tbf I think 10 seconds is fair since pitch clock violations happen within 8 seconds if either the pitcher or batter aren't ready.
All I remember from this game is when Deandre Hopkins took Marcus Williams to Suplex city after the Saints picked off Deshaun Watson. Still a wild play all these years later
I guess ESPN and whoever made the graphics package at the time wanted some elements of that package to fit their overall color scheme. I get where they were going, because those graphics used an abundance of neon green/yellow in some elements, but they should've understood the differing uses of colors in football from the get-go, instead of just being aesthetically innovative for the sake of it.
Not to mention, ESPN did the same thing with their CFP graphics a year and a half later, but it was less distracting and obvious.
But JG9, has a yellow shirt! If you like the color yellow, does that mean you like ?
No
The score bug in the first has was worse than if they did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play
Short answer: the scoreboard was too yellow
ESPN, the network that cried flag.
Which just goes to show, the people involved and running corps in entertainment, have no idea how to entertain or even what entertainment is.
And it was all yellow - Coldplay
While I can clearly tell this is a bright green, having such a similar color to yellow does make the flag call far less eye catching when it happens
The 2018 looks good to me
I don't see any awkwardness
I just dont get the weird obsession with the ugly neon yellow-green.
Like, ESPN's colors have NEVER included yellow. Its always been black, white, red, and an orange color gradient back in the old days. Why not just use normal colors that dont instsntly pop out snd distract you like everyone else. The CBS scoreboard is the best one. Its just a blue box with white text. Thats it. SIMPLE
This would akin to the CFL's score bug's down and distance marker being red, since that's the color of their penalty flags.
I don't watch much Madden streams but they have the same fucking thing when they show other game scores and the "final" result is in yellow
Who else liked nbc in the 90s? I know it had no score box, but the theme music throughout the decade, the announcers, and the graphics
I hate this scorebug, bro. From the very start, as I was watching the footage, my eyes kept getting drawn to the bottom right corner by the down and distance change because it looked like a flag on the play. Even after I knew there wasn't., I kept checking.
The scorebug is really overanalyzed. I want to see the score, time, quarter, timeouts, possession, and teams, all clearly and all at the bottom of the screen out of the way. No cutsie animations, no elaborate logos and fonts. It's not Looney Tunes. It's a football game.
I don't remember this at all and seems like no big deal.
Nva heard the term "score bug" until now.
Lmao uhhh why is this a big deal, enough to make a 17 min video about the color yellow😂
colorblind people: Eh. It’s alright. as long is it doesn’t take away from my favorite team. The Cleveland Greys.
Why tf are you calling it a score bug?
That's what it's called
Because that’s what it’s called.
I mean..... It does say flag
homie wants to say the word redundant as if that's not half his content per video
6:12 Am I colorblind? It looks puke-green to me, not yellow.
Looks more green than yellow to me
Why are people up in ams about the scoreboard. Makes no sense. Its just to show you what's the score and the time left in the game. And people says its a distraction. Straight bullshit
Am I the only one that actually likes the yellow one lol
Dude all you got to do is read flag
you have to be blind to not see 1st and 10 and confuse it with a flag lmfao im sorry i wasnt confused at all
you really just insulted somebody who has probably achieved more in the past year than you ever will and had the balls to apologize in a passive-aggressive way
@@cherrycolareal it's not an insult to say i knew the difference because it says 1st and 10..
@@cherrycolareal i was just stating that i wasn't confused because the down and distance is very clear , i didnt think it was a flag because i can clearly see the numbers. i can disagree with him regardless of his accomplishments that is such crazy logic and i was speaking in general period not directly insulting him
@@cherrycolareal oh and it wasn't an apology i was speaking like I'm sorry i don't issue because i can clearly see the numbers so i wasn't confused.
yeah i don't get it either, if it was a penalty, it would say flag, thats what you look for, not the color. i watched this game when it happened & i wasn't confused at all, i didn't even notice the 2nd half change because the color didn't mean anything, what it says matters
I’m I colorblind? It looks green to me.
That 2018 bug is like a top 5 all time score bug not sure what you’re on
i don't have this problem with the yellow, you can tell if there is a penalty by it saying FLAG, if its not there, then its not a penalty, to me thats simple to understand
Of course it was espn
Really crying over yellow box grow up
The only one crying is here you virgin.
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should it have been yellow probably not but you can easily tell if there's a penalty by READING THE DAMN SCREEN it's not that hard people are dumb and lazy
Ikr. When there's a flag. The screen literally says "flag" in big letters.
when we see yellow as football fans we associate it with a flag. So when you see a flash of yellow out of the corner of your eyes on every play you think there's a flag.
@@ThomasCarrieri basically you just admited to being pavlov's dog