FAQ: 0. WHY REVERTS DON'T SLOW YOU DOWN TLDR - they do, i just ollie/boneless out before the speed penalty really hits reverts in thps1+2 are really bad. they have permament speed penalty system, which means that every revert you make adds a speed penalty for the next revert in the same combo. these penalties stack up to 5 or 6 and then you hit the maximum speed penalty which, in theory, should always enitrely stop you. the penalties never go away, unless you end your combo (that's why i called it 'permament'). if you watched the video, then its needless to say that this maximum speed penalty just doesn't work. this video is kind of a proof of concept that (as of now) reverts can be very easily exploited - all you need to do is to ollie/boneless right after a revert, before the speed penalty impacts you. given that i revert only after huge dropdown on this line, i always have a lot of speed after ollieing out. i really would want to say that its harder than it looks but honestly - its not. dont get me wrong here - i think that speed penalty on reverts is an absolute must, but imo in this game its done in a really bad way. even if we assumed that the maximum speed penalty always stops you, and theres no way to ollie out of it to keep your speed, then >permament< speed penalty is just a bad concept on its own. it doesn't make gameplay any more interesting, but only limits player's movement - regardless if going for high scores, graffiti tags or just improving. imagine if you could only do 6 wallrides or wallplants in your combo and then they would become pretty much useless. sounds dumb, but this is exactly how i feel about reverts in this game. for reference, reverts in thug, thug2 and thaw had a very similiar system of speed penalty but with two major differences. speed penalty was not permament and would go away after 20 seconds per revert. if you made another revert in these 20 seconds, then the timer would bump by another 20 seconds and your speed penalty would also grow. second difference is that the maximum speed penalty actually worked. you would always get 100% speed penalty if you reverted too many times in short amount of time (that would be around 5 or 6 in these 20 seconds) and ollieing out just didnt help. this way the game would punish you if you tried to exploit reverts, but didn't limit your movement long term. 1. how do i get good? ruclips.net/video/5SYiEMFddn4/видео.html 2. how do i wallride high? hold ollie so you get more speed, start a wallride and jump off as quick as you can - this way you will get much higher into the air compared to if you jumped off after like 1 second. if you do a wallieplant (up up jump) instead of just jumping off you will get even more height. these are the key factors, although angle that you approach your wallrides matter too. 3. what are your binds? w a s d - up left down right 5 - ollie 4 - flip 6 - grab 8 - grind 9 - right spin key numpad+ - left spin key spacebar - spine transfer/revert 4. haha pc keyboard cheater do that on controller people who do highscores on controllers: ruclips.net/video/e3fT3PyWSLE/видео.html (ps4) ruclips.net/video/2hS0GKTrDFQ/видео.html www.twitch.tv/ander_shins ruclips.net/video/DzQPjOpF9iU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/imQjOY8Gl4Q1/видео.html ruclips.net/video/PMsfP20fxnk/видео.html 5. game mods on, no bails!! 0:00 6. what special tricks are you using? i.imgur.com/GQsfESB.png 7. why no special grinds and manuals? see link in 1. 8. dude you are just going in circles wheres the skill in this :^)
@@xxCRzz im sure that VV wants to listen to people's opinions on this game and they value our feedback. revert change seems unlikely as it probably doesnt bother 90% of the playerbase, but its my biggest problem with high scoring in thps1+2.
Well if you pay attention to the whole scoreboard, it looks like the top two cheated or hacked or something. There’s other people with three hundred million + then it just jumps up to over a billion, and it’s timed.
I think the 'sick' score for this level is something like 125k? This dude puts together a combo of greater value than that in literally less than 3 seconds.
@@BScribbS88 lol sounds like ur mad, there's no reason it shouldn't be allowed, it's literally a tony hawk game bro, not everything needs to be so competitive and serious
@@BScribbS88 and why does that matter? It is a TONY HAWK GAME, it's not csgo or rainbow six, no one should care at all if someone uses a controller or keyboard
He started killing it whenever he was going back and forth at 2:17. I also liked how he kept the combo going whenever he would be taken out of his spot, then find a way back to original starting point.
you can maintain your combo even if you stopped entirely by doing a manual a bit after youve already landed on the ground. its not that easy and its nowhere as good as spacewalk but it can save your combo sometimes
I like how you bailed right at the beginning to stop shitters like me automatically thinking of the comment "try doing this with no bail off" and instantly being proven wrong. You beast.
Key is even using key Bindings for the moves get real guy I've done combos through all the maps together on tony hawks America Wasteland. Not just the same bs moves in the same bs spot..this video is mods all day long
brings back memories of Tony hawk underground 1 and 2 where this one dude was the last person standing on overtime and everyone else bitched at him to end their score so they could play agai. 😆
Why aren’t your manual and grind balance meters going haywire? If I combo that long they skip form side to side in split second with loads of momentum.
Kevlared I watched his FAQ video, I’ve realised that grinding the same rail twice in a row has a massive penalty, so you need to constantly switch from grind to manual, to grind, to manual, to grind etc. The game should tell you this!
Its important to know i think he has all stats points but its just git gud. Got this game yesterday and its a little frustating to keep the flow have the right timing and dont do grinding or manual for to long but this is pretty hard but i thinl with time i will git gut just like in thps3 and thaw
Starting to get into PC gaming, i can see why people would excel at a single game. But i still got my ps2 collection, and even then i still havent 100% my childhood favorites, whether its memory card corruptions or whatever. most of that got rectified with a generation 1 ps3, but man, thats an insane combo.
i can really understand what youre saying. thps videos without 3rd party music are weird to watch and upload for me. truth is that im kind of making money off no music in these videos and thats the only reason for no music in my vids recentely. if you want i can upload the same vids with music and just put links in the description.
@@prevzzy It's okay! I understand you gotta earn something, and you don't need to reup the videos if you don't want to, I can just let some of my own songs playing in the background, after all I'm not here for the music but for your combos, you're amazing! :)
Unbelievably based keyboard user. I've been using KB to play THPS since '04 and rarely do I ever see anyone use anything besides a gamepad. People think it's weird but I think it's one of the most comfortable ways to play.
I was just about to bring up the revert penalty since it looked like it reset, but then I read your FAQ. Thanks for posting it, very informative. I agree that a global revert limit sucks. Seems odd that all other mechanics and limits work with reasonable limitations except this. Wonder if it's just something carried over when some of the code was ported over or if it was intentionally enforced. Hopefully we can get somebody from VV with game mechanic knowledge (like andyTHPS) to comment on the matter.
'reasonable limitations' is such a key thing in this literally every movement mechanic in this game has a REASONABLE limitations except for reverts - manual/lip/grind balance gets harder to hold the more time you spend on it (and a few other reasonable balance penalty things too), wallplants have a cooldown so you cant wallplant from wall to wall that are 1 meter away from each other, wallrides have a cooldown and you cant wallride if youre going too slow. all of these make gameplay more challenging but are not making any of these moves useless in any way.
2 years later and I’m honestly glad they didn’t implement the “Moon walk” manual (Left Right Triangle) in the game or we would’ve been screwed 20x over.
Another entertaining one. I think my favorite of yours is definitely your Burnside combo. It wasn't even this high, but just watching it is incredible! This one feels a bit more robotic. Still amazing though:)
FAQ:
0. WHY REVERTS DON'T SLOW YOU DOWN
TLDR - they do, i just ollie/boneless out before the speed penalty really hits
reverts in thps1+2 are really bad. they have permament speed penalty system, which means that every revert you make adds a speed penalty for the next revert in the same combo. these penalties stack up to 5 or 6 and then you hit the maximum speed penalty which, in theory, should always enitrely stop you. the penalties never go away, unless you end your combo (that's why i called it 'permament'). if you watched the video, then its needless to say that this maximum speed penalty just doesn't work.
this video is kind of a proof of concept that (as of now) reverts can be very easily exploited - all you need to do is to ollie/boneless right after a revert, before the speed penalty impacts you. given that i revert only after huge dropdown on this line, i always have a lot of speed after ollieing out. i really would want to say that its harder than it looks but honestly - its not.
dont get me wrong here - i think that speed penalty on reverts is an absolute must, but imo in this game its done in a really bad way. even if we assumed that the maximum speed penalty always stops you, and theres no way to ollie out of it to keep your speed, then >permament< speed penalty is just a bad concept on its own. it doesn't make gameplay any more interesting, but only limits player's movement - regardless if going for high scores, graffiti tags or just improving. imagine if you could only do 6 wallrides or wallplants in your combo and then they would become pretty much useless. sounds dumb, but this is exactly how i feel about reverts in this game.
for reference,
reverts in thug, thug2 and thaw had a very similiar system of speed penalty but with two major differences. speed penalty was not permament and would go away after 20 seconds per revert. if you made another revert in these 20 seconds, then the timer would bump by another 20 seconds and your speed penalty would also grow. second difference is that the maximum speed penalty actually worked. you would always get 100% speed penalty if you reverted too many times in short amount of time (that would be around 5 or 6 in these 20 seconds) and ollieing out just didnt help. this way the game would punish you if you tried to exploit reverts, but didn't limit your movement long term.
1. how do i get good?
ruclips.net/video/5SYiEMFddn4/видео.html
2. how do i wallride high?
hold ollie so you get more speed, start a wallride and jump off as quick as you can - this way you will get much higher into the air compared to if you jumped off after like 1 second. if you do a wallieplant (up up jump) instead of just jumping off you will get even more height. these are the key factors, although angle that you approach your wallrides matter too.
3. what are your binds?
w a s d - up left down right
5 - ollie
4 - flip
6 - grab
8 - grind
9 - right spin key
numpad+ - left spin key
spacebar - spine transfer/revert
4. haha pc keyboard cheater do that on controller
people who do highscores on controllers:
ruclips.net/video/e3fT3PyWSLE/видео.html (ps4)
ruclips.net/video/2hS0GKTrDFQ/видео.html
www.twitch.tv/ander_shins
ruclips.net/video/DzQPjOpF9iU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/imQjOY8Gl4Q1/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/PMsfP20fxnk/видео.html
5. game mods on, no bails!!
0:00
6. what special tricks are you using?
i.imgur.com/GQsfESB.png
7. why no special grinds and manuals?
see link in 1.
8. dude you are just going in circles wheres the skill in this
:^)
Interesting talk on reverts, I hope they change them but can’t see it happening
@@xxCRzz im sure that VV wants to listen to people's opinions on this game and they value our feedback. revert change seems unlikely as it probably doesnt bother 90% of the playerbase, but its my biggest problem with high scoring in thps1+2.
inb4 they just patch so you cant ollie out of reverts like this but penalty is still permament lol
prevzzy Yeah that’s the thing it’s something that mainly affects players like yourself so it might get overlooked. Fingers crossed though.
Came to ask for answers and you already provided lmao. Sick video!
My favorite part is how he only gets $5 after accumulating 364 million points
Dollar a minute
@@mariotaz that's show business for you. The car ride to the studio costs more than what you are paid for performing.
@@Mikewee777 Better start getting that Raid Shadow Legends sponsor then
@Kermit the Frog Have you tried NordVPN?
😂
If you wonder why you have Arthritis in your hands when you are older remember this video
prevzzy: yo, play me in a game of skate?
me: sure set the trick
prevzzy:
Oh hey sc6ut lmao
me: i’ll take the lett- actually you know what? you win
My favorite part is how insane this was and my guy is still 3rd on the leaderboard
When you're an amateur skater tryna go pro and you get your first payout
search up the absolute batshit insane world of thug pro and see the huge ass combos people pull off there like it's normal lmao
Well if you pay attention to the whole scoreboard, it looks like the top two cheated or hacked or something. There’s other people with three hundred million + then it just jumps up to over a billion, and it’s timed.
Hackers
Is he really playing it on a keyboard??😢
I want to see Tony do a video of himself attempting this in reality.
I’d love to see tony just casually levitating and gliding up walls
Tony Hawk is really quiet since this vid dropped. Maybe Jack Black tries ist?
@@The_ANNOholic id pay good money to see that
Ah yes I want to see that handplant on an invisible wall too.
Every half secont has a deadly trick
NICE. Nice recovery at 1:31 too
It was nerve wracking watching it xd
You’re gaining subs fast man nice!
He just do this. Easy, right?
@@hmmallo_2477 lmao his channel is dead
@@idontgetthejoke9465 and he can’t still sub to him? Stop being pessimistic.
Imagine this dude playing HORSE with someone
They CANNOT WIN 🗣💯!!!
They just giveup for sure
i wanna see prev vs bullet 😁
Every time you think he's done he just starts a different line
Totally was not expecting the line for this map to be this. Good shit.
I think the 'sick' score for this level is something like 125k? This dude puts together a combo of greater value than that in literally less than 3 seconds.
I always seem to have this guy in my multiplayer trick attack… talented bastard.
It’s very easy to do on k n M it really shouldn’t even be able to be allowed
@@BScribbS88 lol sounds like ur mad, there's no reason it shouldn't be allowed, it's literally a tony hawk game bro, not everything needs to be so competitive and serious
@@ryliemooney2610 point being game was created at a time when all you could do is use controller on it
@@BScribbS88 and why does that matter? It is a TONY HAWK GAME, it's not csgo or rainbow six, no one should care at all if someone uses a controller or keyboard
@@BScribbS88 lol I play thug 2 on my phone
"Just a quick 2 minute sesh"
6 and a half minutes later
it’s amazing to see how differently everyone’s brain works in combos. Very cool.
Thps 1+2 players: It's impossible to get 364 million points!
ThugPRO players: Hold my keyboard
ThugPro Players Be Like Hold Beer
The score is impressive, but the fact that you used 3 different lines is incredible
thanks. i really missed "nice line" type of comments
prevzzy nice line
Was thinking the same thing, absolutely crazy
Me: hey I got the million point combo
This guy:
I think it's crazy how this guy had a continuous momentum around that same spot
He started killing it whenever he was going back and forth at 2:17. I also liked how he kept the combo going whenever he would be taken out of his spot, then find a way back to original starting point.
RUclips skaters: alright before we get into the video, let’s warm up
The warmup:
me: *asking my older brother to complete a level for me because it's hard*
my older brother:
It's amazing how this guy's base is bigger than my combos xD
I miss being able to spacewalk :(
whatsthat
agenttank you can move while still manual-ing
@@anduwu_ ah yes, I remember
you can maintain your combo even if you stopped entirely by doing a manual a bit after youve already landed on the ground. its not that easy and its nowhere as good as spacewalk but it can save your combo sometimes
@@prevzzy the problem is the longer you Manuel and grind, the more sensitive your balance meter gets
This is perfect ASMR, I fell asleep to it once.
Sounds like someone is frantically searching their cutlery tray for a spoon.
I like how you bailed right at the beginning to stop shitters like me automatically thinking of the comment "try doing this with no bail off" and instantly being proven wrong. You beast.
it's easy to turn it back on right after the bail
@@FriedRice-Productions yeah but he obviously didn't do it in this clip. Did you not just watch it?
Its a easy as pushing one key to turn it back. He using mods
Key is even using key Bindings for the moves get real guy I've done combos through all the maps together on tony hawks America Wasteland. Not just the same bs moves in the same bs spot..this video is mods all day long
It's s shame people have to use mods on tony hawk to look good
Doctor: You have 0 seconds left to live
This guy: 1:04
Me after watching this insane combo: "lul, 3rd. Loser."
jk
Everyone at the skatepark: *practicing ollies*
Also everyone there the second a girl walks in:
I appreciate the minimal amount of cheese for this high of a combo
5:18 that sloppy landing scared tf outta me
fantastic musical choice, makes me want to go back to school and jam out with my friends
THAT MANUAL AT 6:14-6:15 😱
As an arcade skater of course its funny physics but i never realized it can be abused so much in its jankyness
brings back memories of Tony hawk underground 1 and 2 where this one dude was the last person standing on overtime and everyone else bitched at him to end their score so they could play agai. 😆
Why aren’t your manual and grind balance meters going haywire? If I combo that long they skip form side to side in split second with loads of momentum.
Probably because he doesnt have the grinds go on for too long you can notice most of the grinds are either slight rail kisses.
Kevlared I watched his FAQ video, I’ve realised that grinding the same rail twice in a row has a massive penalty, so you need to constantly switch from grind to manual, to grind, to manual, to grind etc. The game should tell you this!
Its important to know i think he has all stats points but its just git gud. Got this game yesterday and its a little frustating to keep the flow have the right timing and dont do grinding or manual for to long but this is pretty hard but i thinl with time i will git gut just like in thps3 and thaw
that recovery a minute in was awesome
this is for sure one of the better scoring/creative lines I've seen on 1+2
Dude this is crazy, today i got my 1.000.000 point in a 2 minute session trophy and i was super happy about that and now i see your video, hahaha
Starting to get into PC gaming, i can see why people would excel at a single game. But i still got my ps2 collection, and even then i still havent 100% my childhood favorites, whether its memory card corruptions or whatever. most of that got rectified with a generation 1 ps3, but man, thats an insane combo.
I miss the music because your musical taste is great, but your combos are so amazing that they manage to keep me entertained even without the music
i can really understand what youre saying. thps videos without 3rd party music are weird to watch and upload for me. truth is that im kind of making money off no music in these videos and thats the only reason for no music in my vids recentely. if you want i can upload the same vids with music and just put links in the description.
@@prevzzy It's okay! I understand you gotta earn something, and you don't need to reup the videos if you don't want to, I can just let some of my own songs playing in the background, after all I'm not here for the music but for your combos, you're amazing! :)
mods
Unbelievably based keyboard user. I've been using KB to play THPS since '04 and rarely do I ever see anyone use anything besides a gamepad. People think it's weird but I think it's one of the most comfortable ways to play.
The overtime lasted longer than the time the level gives you to complete it💀
This is just madness.. Beautiful, beautiful madness..
SIN? That dates back to THPS4. I remember going up against them. Awesome clan
i joined recentely, along with some other guys. ogs like slim and defex still play very actively though
That spine transfer grind combo is big point cheese lol
prevzzy back at it again... good job man keep it up!
I was just about to bring up the revert penalty since it looked like it reset, but then I read your FAQ. Thanks for posting it, very informative.
I agree that a global revert limit sucks. Seems odd that all other mechanics and limits work with reasonable limitations except this. Wonder if it's just something carried over when some of the code was ported over or if it was intentionally enforced. Hopefully we can get somebody from VV with game mechanic knowledge (like andyTHPS) to comment on the matter.
'reasonable limitations' is such a key thing in this
literally every movement mechanic in this game has a REASONABLE limitations except for reverts - manual/lip/grind balance gets harder to hold the more time you spend on it (and a few other reasonable balance penalty things too), wallplants have a cooldown so you cant wallplant from wall to wall that are 1 meter away from each other, wallrides have a cooldown and you cant wallride if youre going too slow. all of these make gameplay more challenging but are not making any of these moves useless in any way.
Ye
Friends this is what we in the business call a TAS.
TOTAL ABSOLUTE SKILLZ
How do you do 3 single kickflips so quickly instead of a triple kickflip?
2 years later and I’m honestly glad they didn’t implement the “Moon walk” manual (Left Right Triangle) in the game or we would’ve been screwed 20x over.
Reminding me why I loved this game
This guy spends more time in overtime lol
Me: “I’m thinking of just having some fun online”
The dude in the casual lobby:
Another entertaining one. I think my favorite of yours is definitely your Burnside combo. It wasn't even this high, but just watching it is incredible! This one feels a bit more robotic. Still amazing though:)
Honestly.....pro skater being an inspiration for Spider-Man 2, because that was slighty demonstrated in miles morales is something to be excited about
This is insane. The amount of time I would've fallen, or bumped into something to end the combo.
I used to think I was great at THPS, then RUclips suggested this video to me
You used a glitch on that wall plant....
As a "purest" I just can't count this run. Sick though.
Who needs a “lame flip stick”in skateboarding, THPS true king of Skate games. Buttons over sticks
Yoooo the dog piss 360 was actual fire at @0:49
My mans needs more likes on these videos, god damn
Imagine he didn't stick the landing
I know it's just a game, but the more realistic graphics make this look laugh out loud hilarious. It's like Warner Brothers cartoon.
Some teacher somewhere: Okay class, today we're going to learn the laws of physics.
This guy:
0:35
how did you not lose your combo here? I'd imagine you were supposed to revert as you landed in this surface.
i clicked spine transfer to level out of the ramp so i didn't need to revert
The ADHD combo
No one:
*The first video of a Japanese skater you've never heard of*
This has to be like a guiness record right!?(serious question lol)
Nothing has given me more anxiety in my entire life.
vids like these make me want no friends...so inspiring
That level out on the ramps is next level. Beast
I was like ok yea not bad.
Then realized it was done using a computer keyboard! .. I fainted...
I remember I hit around 2 million on school and was happy. This is just insane
this is one of the riskiest to land after skipping 2nd revert at perfect angle
i like how you know how to time each trick so the balance bar wouldn't make you fall instantly
Timer: *hits 0*
"But I'm not done yet!"
This is just flat out insane
This is why you dont let the A.I play on legend mode.
It's really impressive that you can do such things on keyboard wtf
Well done do you mind if I attempt to beat you?
I will be on the ps
How do you get some many flat points from a kickflip after the first 900?
i played these so much way back when.
I'm more impressed he managed to do anything on a keyboard.
Now that's the definition of power gaming
My dude added a shot of tequila to his pre workout...
Hey dude do you think next time you can write up the list of tricks so I can try this too? Okay sweet thanks.
Sweet line, I can dig it... WALLPLANT off the air!!!???
Ok, so this guy is an airbender. Makes sense.
A human doing this on a keyboard is WILD.
will you do a video for School II
How do you have so much control over your grind and manual meters after repeating so many tricks?
Can YOU MAKE robot line guides?
Imagine bailing at the end 😂
Spoken like a true loser. lol
@@I9IIEIIYIIEIIS take care of that little self esteem you got there 😂😂😂😂😂😂✌🏼
10/10 Pulled a McTwist on the way over.
I know this video is from a year ago but it's but it's still on right now
Is Spider-Man still on this one
First and favorite board. Good shit man!!!
when you do the grabs instead of specials is that you messing up or do you just do grabs
very creative line
are the people with those 1 billion high scores cheaters?
For sure, this guy could go for days if the balance meters would allow him and he “only” got 300 odd million. No way anyone’s getting a billion legit.
364 million point combo? More like 364 million Gs on those direction changes.