Byleth Breakdown by Mew2King
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Byleth is finally here and Mew2King is a fan of the new Fire Emblem character! Watch as m2k breaks down all of Byleth's moves frame by frame including some combos and set ups to get you started with the latest Super Smash Bros Ultimate DLC character. What have you discovered about Byleth? Let us know in the comments!
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For upB combos even though proper DI makes it not work, if you do it quickly they might not DI properly (but it's easy.. just hold toward byleth..).
Let me know your thoughts on Byleth! And the best costume lol
Costume 4: edelgard I think it was made really well, the dimitri one was cool too but idk about the claud one
Edelgard and Sothis are honestly the best. Edelgard just looks unique and Sothis has *t h i g h s*.
For using up b off stage, would hanging on ledge to drop down dj up b be able to catch them and then spike?
Best costume is yellow guy for Claude of the Golden Deer. Golden Deer best house
Costume 6 is the best!
I think that Byleth's down B is better than other similar move since it's an over head swing and covers more area.
It can hit oponnent on platform above you and can hit behind you with the shockwave.
That's not really a high bar to be honest
Do not forget SUPER ARMOR and can be brought down...
@@xolotltolox7626 I mean a warlock punch you could actually use in some situations is not bad at all.
don’t forget that byleth breaks shields like it’s nothing and having a broken kill option might be really good
It's like a manual Hatchet Man with armor on the ground.
I want M2K to do this kind of in-depth guide for every character :)
Dude that is actually dope I would watch several times every guide for every character
Cool Guy on the echo fox channel he and MkLeo made in depth guides for several characters
Panda I need them all!!
Cool Guy same
Same I hope he does it more often with the remaining fighters
And the is why I like Mew2King.
Everyone is just nodding Byleth off and saying they are trash, they are low tier, etc. He takes the time to talk about the moves and say what uses the moves have and what makes them good.
I do believe Byleth has potential to be a really strong contender.
Some people wrote Joker off too when he first came out. Leffen said he wasn't good. But he ended up being top tier.
I think they're high mid at least. They kill way too early and consistently to be bad
I’ve been trying to pick Byleth up and while I definitely think they won’t become top tier, they’re definitely going to be very solid characters. Sure their moves are slow, some are easy to punish, and rather predictable... but it’s a good kit with a lot of options.
I wouldnt call Leffen reliable, his mindset is that of the Melee mechanics, Ultimate has different mechanics, im glad he was wrong cuz Joker is one of the best characters to spectate imo
A year later and you're right. Tho I've thought Byleth was high tier since release. Seeing someone have results with a "mid tier" is just validating.
The overall consensus seems to be Byleth is meh in singles but a nightmare in doubles that will kill you the moment you take your eyes off them.
She definitely excels in anti-air situations, probably would body ZSS.
But yeah, she's definitely going to be scary in doubles.
How is she better than ike in doubles?
@@microblast3700 The projectile smash attack that can kill you while you're distracted, mostly.
@@four-en-tee
He. Byleth is more officially He in canon.
@@Un1234l And there's clearly a female version, so either's good.
don't be weird.
7:23 "Not my best!" Lol Byleth disagrees with M2K's opinion
@Most Valuable Gaming
Dash Speed: 1.43 (#75/76 Same as Zelda)
Initial Dash Distance: 2.0 units
Initial Dash Frames: 15
Initial Dash Speed: 1.80
Dash Pivot: 18 frames (same as Robin)
Walk Speed: ~0.80 (#76 between Ken and Gannondorf)
First jump: 4.4 units (17~18 frames to max height_
Second jump: 4.4 units (27 frames to max height)
Short hop: 2.8 units (13~15 frames hard to tell)
Weight: 97
What's a reliable way to test gravity, fall speed, air speed and air acceleration?
by jumping
I imagine kurogane hammer does it by testing air time after regular short hop and full hop, and going frame by frame, and trying lateral air motion for aerial drift data. Maybe jump off a platform or something to increase airtime, or go offstage.
The soundtrack alone makes me so happy T.T
fully charged arrow can break a shield still at ~90+%
With all due respect, what kind of idiot would shield against fully charged arrow?
rancorousGamer everyone online
@@rancorousGamer those that don't know better? which is most people
@@takarahayashi4124 "Good against people who don't know the character" is never a good argument in favor of a move, let alone one that's so telegraphed and commital.
@@rancorousGamer Yeah to be fair, if we take that in to account, anyone that loosely has any fighting background don't usually get tricked by the novelty tricks more than once.
Do not go offstage to edgeguard him when he's recovering low, unless you want to get spiked by up b lol
Really depends on how good or bad the byleth is, and what the sword decides to prioritize. I suck, and I got spiked instead of spiking the other person.
Also worth mentioning that how many stocks you have when going for the kill matters as well, and how far down is the byleth. If your character can't recover from that low, maybe going for the kill against that byleth that is hanging nearly off screen isn't worth it.
This is unfortunately not the case, the move prioritizes the ledge over opponents, which actually makes sense otherwise it'd be absolutely broken.
On a stage like Kalos this is absolutely true because Byleth can also tether to the wall and wall jump (this also gives you your Up B back) to recover meaning that it won't prioritise anything if they're low enough and they will still manage to recover regardless of whether another player is there too.
Depends. Typically, game decides to prioritize the ledge over the other character. You have to be dangerously low for it to connect when you're off the ledge.
I'll just stick to Nikita
also up air is a drag down. you can do drag down into grab,down tilt, or up tilt for mix ups. hope this helps
Could you make a video about the Zelda buffs? I'm curious about your opinion of the since you placed her pretty high on the tier list.
Basically, she camps better and kills better.
M2K: *rocking back and forth in his chair*
Me: Oh yes, it's big brain time!
I wonder how much of a debate the devs had about nerfing her chest size 😂
Byleth is for good boys and girls
I just noticed that they did nerf her chest size lmao
You mean foxtrotting...come on M2K you been in the scene long. You dont say multidashing
I was so disappointed lol. Her chest was back breakingly huge in 3h, lol
@@Th3Sh1n1gam1 well shes probably happy that her back problems are gone now
And no buffs for Corrin....
Yay
Nobbu SB I’m telling you they’re making Corrin more and more redundant
I’m considering Byleth the buff and switching over to her. If corrin is actually buffed I might switch back but until then I’ll use what I can
@@its_rushs0nic258 he (Corrin) is kind of the worst protagonist in all of FE, don't want him overshadowing the new hotness.
They got the universal shield health increase I think
Free corrin's thighs
Honestly even if she's low/mid tier, Byleth is too fun not to play them.
Not fun because he is too slow
@@IAm-zo1bo to each their own.
@@IAm-zo1bo Ganondorf, Incineroar and Robin are all slower.
@@lucifermorningstar8562 At least those three attack faster. The biggest disadvantage for Byleth is slow movement and attack speed and horrible air drift.
Frank Kuncio ganondorf attacks faster??....what???
Feels like a light Ganondorf
With way more range. Horrifying.
Super ganon
Both bad
Both are trash
@@M12GProductions in theory...
Honestly the characters mobility holds her back, and it doesn't help that she has a bad projectile. She gonna struggle against zoners like rob and fast characters that can get into her space like fox and greninja.
Imo if she had better Aerial drift she would be a much better spacer. Byleth looks like she'll be pretty good on platform stages like BF tho
WhiteTrash i think they’ll probably buff her speed
@@legendoflevant eh. Maybe a little, just so shes only slow. Not SUPER slow. But i doubt theyll make her attacks faster, maybe tho, well see
Dat thumbnail tho
That thumbnail makes me feel things.
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Love the player nicknames!
I love the thumbnail 😍
From my few hours playing last night, I think the up b prioritizes grabbing ledge over grabbing opponents, though I've had a few weird scenarios where it tracked the opponent when they air dodged near ledge
Thats how every tether works
@@chrispo7610 well the opposite would be sooo weird and broken
M2K, have you seen the auto-walljump mechanic on upb yet? makes you recover from sooo much deeper.
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18:51
Just fought a Byleth, hits hard af maybe too much. Easily predictable though, depending on the player.
theres not a good byleth player still online which is sad lol
@@7uyh771 hmm i wonder why
But i hate his playstyle it's just ganon all over again
@@7uyh771 honestly I cant see Byleths big attacks landing without the other player messing up or distracted in Team Battle.
@@TheONE-mi7sz true but even in team battle they still easy to predict :/
12:52 that 0-40 hit different 🥴
Definitely not a bad character. Nicko even just reached Finals with Byleth so imagine if more people can push him/her farther. Only time can tell what limit this character has but as of right now, mid-tier for sure.
Mid-tier warriors are everywhere. Zaki being top 20 in japan with dedede, Kept in the top 10 with villager, NickC with falcon (sorry fatality), Elegant with Luigi, KEN(or wrath) with Sonic, Brood with plant etc etc.
Who cares if she’s slow? She’s hella fun to play and her shield pressure is insane
Something I discovered is if you are below the stage and Up-B, if the sword connects with the actual platform and not the ledge it will still hit it, and you get flung upwards.
Honestly got like 4 hrs in w byleth last night and have to say I'm enjoying the character way more than I anticipated
Here's a hot take :
Byleth is the only one out of the 3 FE avatars where I think the male design looks cooler.
YeaAhh bUt wHat abOut thE aNimE tHighs
Cold.take.
Female Byleth outfit is daunting to look at in 3 Houses and Smash. I love the Male version because he looks so badass, Female Robin I don't like and Corrin is a bastard child that I don't care for.
Needlewind byleyh is not even an avatar. In japanese, male and female have different canon name, you cant changed how he looks and he have an actual voice
And that's a fact
Byleth breakdown by mew2king more like mew2king being a professional RUclipsr
So the up b will prioritize ledge always even if it has to pass through a char first including if you reverse it.
If you B-Reverse Up B low, it seems you're less likely to grab stage. So jumping off with back turned seems like the best option.
Byleth Breakdown in a few words:
Bad character but fun. They need buffs.
Edit: I fixed it because of the kids answering "She/They"
She
Did you even watch the video? M2K concluded that Byleth is not bad by any means and is mid-tier.
Yea pretty much
This character is far from bad, definitely doesn’t need buffs.
@@marcosss4652 He's fun!
Fastfall fair is better than autocancel fair in neutral. Definitely can't be viewed as just opinion. Even though the landing lag is reduced from 12f to 3f, the move doesn't have enough shield stun to justify the autocancel.
You're pretty much putting yourself at -22 with the autocancel vs -12 with a fastfall low hit. They only time you should potentially use autocancel is if you are poking a platform. Even then, I don't know if it's better.
At least f!Byleth has great "assets" vs the rest of the cast :)
I'm surprised they didn't nerf it more like ZSS and Bayo since Smash is for good boys and girls.
@@ZER0lPT It seems that having big racks makes it quite heavy making a female slow unlike ZSS and Bayo's toned down busts
Gigi in they’re larger in FE 3 houses
200% chest size modifier
I am suddenly okay with Byleth having slow movement speed.
Corrin: "Who are you?"
Byleth: "I'm you, but better."
Byleth has no counter, so not the same as Corrin.
They’re nothing alike.
Corrin is better for sure
Notes from playing from me:
Rapid jab kills somewhere in the 160-180% range on mid weights. Byleth doesn't have trouble killing, but it can be relevant as an option if you're struggling to kill and are worried about fishing getting you combo'd or something. It's a nice tilt stop/late kill pressure release valve for your mental game since it's a continuation of a frame 4 option.
Up-Smash clips through the platform on battlefield.
Back throw is similar to Hero's, it kills around 150%+ at the ledge. Not great, but can meme people trying to hold shield at ledge.
If you are falling with down-b and the hit comes out and makes it's secondary impact on a platform, you will hold in that position until the move is finished even if you aren't on the platform. For instance, you can fall with it and strike the edge of a platform, you float for a bit before finally falling. Not useful per se, but fun.
Side-b hits on a platform in front and ahead of you (with some amount of that space being tipper), so it can be a tech on platform coverage option if you space it properly.
Kind of wish the Should You Main Series was more like this
Steb but Salem’s laugh tho
The Up B spikes harder the further they are away from you when you grab them. I haven't seen a single person mention this yet.
It doesn't make a difference for when it starts spiking though. 50% before the kick down is the hard rule there.
Byleth's shield breaking from the projectile and down B are very likely online, but when playing with people IRL, it tends to be better to whittle the shield and then break it using a good read from Down smash or Down Air.
Down smash is actually one of your best shield break options since it does like 70% shield damage and will break shield after one arrow hit on their shield. Very good to use on ledge against players that don't like to get up attack since it either: Hits, Shield breaks, or pressures the opponent to recover high which is bad against Byleth.
Byleth is still easier to fight online, especially with fast characters, but will be much better offline where spacing can be done with more precision. Definitely high tier, possibly top tier depending on how low top tier is now since the nerf to a few of the top tiers.
Plus shield break on anyone at 35% is a guaranteed kill. Forward smash tipper kills Bowser midstage on FD at 35% aimed in the middle. This character will crush you with insane punishes and range.
Also UP B kills with spike guaranteed at 110%ish. I have 2 clips of using UP B on lvl9 CPUs and KOing them with the spike of UP B from the top blast zone to the bottom. The spike seems unaffected by weight, only percent and stale.
Hope this helps M2K, just have been having fun playing Byleth, unfortunately online sucks, so it is very hard to play online with Walmart connections roaming, hopefully we get a patch to fix this before wave 2 of DLC characters start to arrive.
Been loving breaking shields with slightly charged down smash ledge traps
HWTV
Real talk: Good w/ platforms. D tilt -> up b lowers the threshold for the KO.
Up b out of shield/ Catching the jump leads into a side b kill confirm.
D tilt up air for lower percentages and DI mix ups.
I didnt see anyone else say this but up b acts as a wall jump idk why but it does and up b can be used again after. From the bottom blastzone of kalos you can upb into the wall and up b to the ledge
you have to b reverse the up b offstage for the edgeduard but its pretty finnicky
You can spot dodge cancel the arrow if you press down
Honestly this a REALLY good break down video, but why did you put the awkward picture for the video?
Im thinking upper mid personally slightly better than average. At best low high tier but im pretty confident in upper mid.
For sure.
A lot of the critiques of Byleth make sense, especially their lack of mobility. I would like to know what tools a low mobility character would need to have to be top tier? Is it something about the way smash plays that makes such a thing basically impossible?
Generally yeah. Being slow will never be an advantage.
Already seen a bunch of cringe twitter combos that i tested DI'ing and of course theyve all been FAKE
I haven’t seen any byleth twitter combos..
@@xeno4693 Someone thinks Up B, Nair, Up B, [something, I wasn't paying attention] is a zero-to-death, but DI easily breaks this, and it really only "works" on big characters like DK.
(That's what I've heard, at least. Haven't tested it myself because I don't have a friend to help me test it and I'm not good at playing two controllers at once. :/ )
@@xeno4693 your one of the lucky ones 👑
@@thinkingfubuki It's pretty much guaranteed on DK. Alpharad has a video on it. Also, fun fact, Up B into Side B is a combo that works most of the time until like 45%. But you have to turn around for the Side B every time.
Failnaught fully charged will fill a G&W bucket in one shot, so if nothing else it'll be good in doubles for that.
2:38 ShortCircuit2King
Still no nerfs to pikachu yet
The thumbnail,Lol
Byleth thumbnails tho
I'm trying REALLY hard not to think of Female Byleth as a waifu because I just want to get away from that whole idea in general... But these RUclips thumbnails keep accentuating her "mature cuteness" for lack of better term and it affecting me 😅
I love the introduction of Byleth. She's so fun to play as and just so different to all the other sword fighters
Down B would be sick a ledge trapping tool on Battlefield on the low plats.
Lybeth, in the thumbnail looking like the sarcastic babysitter from Monster House, lol.
I think the character is decent, not top but not to be slept on either. Jumping against this character can leave an opponent in shambles. Edgeguarding and kill potential and anti airs is enough to keep them in mid high at least.
Downthrow can string into n-air and you can string n-airs together for some easy percent
He forgot that if you hit the stage or a wall with up b the sword will grab the wall and shoot you up and you can use up b again afterwards
if u backthrow on ledge and they don’t recover low, you can up b then
down smash does lots of shield damage too
Mew2king and his thumbnails.
Nice
If you up-b under the stage or if you are low enough, you will jump off the stage and you can up-b again. Subsitute for wall jump, pretty broken
You didn't mention her charged neutral B one shots shields
Edit: and the uncharged one does a surprisingly good amount of shield damage
AllantheBob it doesn’t one shot shields. It’s only around 90%
@@xxmegagallade47 my b, thought it did
Her voice is aggravating
Imagine being this petty lol
For some reason this only works on DK, but there is a 0 to death combo (with computer shuffling high and staling). I know M2K said a lot of the combos online are fake but I tested it myself as much as I can without a human opponent. Up Special to Nair, Up special to Nair. For whatever reason, DK doesn't get kicked hard like the others. I've tried this on the other super heavyweights like Bowser, and Bowser is able to escape.
I am subscribing just for the in depth ASMR explanation alone.
Seriously, be the hero we need mew2king. Give us a guide for every character you can like this.
nair is imo byleth's best aerial and should be used when possible. It:
Combos into d-tilt at low percent if you fast fall it which then combos into another nair or fair
Combos into tipper fair for low-mid percents
drags down if you hit airborne people allowing you to regrab or jab depending on if they spot dodge (so d-tilt, dragdown nair, d-throw nair, fair is a great combo at low percent
Puts your opponent in a nasty tech situation if you fast fall it after 65%. Dash f-smash covers tech in place and missed tech or you can jab lock. dsmash/standing f-smash covers tech in and you can get side-b if they tech away
Byleth's moveset is not for me. Low mobility, terrible throws, and lots of high risk/reward moves that I can never land or always get the sour spot. It's infuriating.
Terrible throws? Downthrow is amazing
You forgot to say the ZSS trick, using byleth up special off the ledge.
Grab the ledge drop slightly, up special. You can even gimp enemies who are camping the stage if they stand too close or are on a platform. Got some cheeky kills with the trick albeit it's more niche than ZSS.
Not sure if this'll help but there's a few things you can do off the edge. Most of it involves edge dropping and upB. I've noticed you can bypass the edge if you press back for a few frames to upB or hit the stage for a wall tether (if I remember Melee terms correctly) if you press down to upB. It caught me off guard when I did the former on my friend.
Side special is so good for off stage edge guarding
What is going on with the female byleth in the thumbnail? I wonder?😏
Never noticed that Green Byleth doesn't wear stockings, she just wears those short shorts. Looks a bit weird with the big trench coat as it feels like it is contradicting something...
Its supposed to look more like Sothis’s outfit from the game, but they cant change the actual character model by skin
Is the back or front hit of down smash stronger?
Theres also the fact that if you grab a wall or even the pixel after the grable ledge you can do basically a artifical wall tech and it gives you a extra jump though that's really it. However it can be useful against edge guarding with you being able to do a invincible jump back onto the stage.
call me crazy, but she reminds me the most of ganondorf..
Can you also make a buffed characters video
Soon.
Thanks
Up throw better than down in the ditto cause easier juggle char.
I usually do an UpB B Reverse for the recovery when I’m too close to the edge and that always works.
Wdym u count the frames?!?!
Up B can only be used 3 times correctly offstage (trying a forth time will results of the whip not hitting the edge)
You forgot 3 things:
- You didn't show us the 3 hit jab. Only show us the rapid jabs.
- Down smash does massive damage to shields.
- Fully charged arrow can break shields at 90%
The Donkey Kong 0-Death is absolutely true no matter the DI. Tried this and works 100% of the time if you do it right
You say you can pretty much just shield against them, but . . . shield breaks
Seems like byleth has a very nice room for player expression which says a lot considering its smash
You should talk about the patch notes... COUGH COUGH CLOUD BUFFS
They still haven't buffed his aerials though
I mean his aerials don’t really need buffs nair needs to be a bit bigger and that’s about it, maybe increase the hit box duration on down air slightly, these changes are really good for him overall, especially the quicker up smash, faster limit charge and easier time sweet spotting ledge with up making him harder to gimp
@@Logan17258 His aerials need more killpower
You can hit oponents hanging on the ledge with a short hop side b
Curious about how people input. For example, down throw fair. Would you hit the down throw and then hold forward+jump+A and let the fair auto come out or is it better to try to time it manually. This is a question I have for pretty much any comboing. I feel like I’m not supposed to be buffering by holding or mashing but idk. Smash is weird for me lol
I think it moreso depends on what you feel like doing. Like if I want to fully commit to a certain option, or if I know that the next hit will for sure land, then I hold the buttons down. But most of the time I run into situations where holding isn't beneficial, so I time it manually.
Jeff Plays! It’s best to buffer because the moves will come out first frame possible
Buffering is usually the way for combos but certain combos require delaying the attack so you need to time those (ex. Joker Fair1 > Dragdown Uair> U/D smash)
I love upthrow into up B
Just shave is m2k, just shave it
Why nobody is talking about how the axe does a lot of shield damage. Specialy down smash.
Yeah. Both down smash and down air does like 80% shield damage. Which is especially crazy for a down air.
From low-mid percentage (around 30-50 depending on weight up-b into bair is a true combo)
What animation of her has that exact frame, i would love to know
neutral air can combo into its self ive been able to get three total hits, not sure if thats better than nair to dash attack but nice knowledge
How u do the tether into nair I don’t get it?!
UpB can be cancelled on the air for momentum and you get combos with it.