Moxxie RE imagined/design
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- this was fun again I don't really think moxxie or blitzØs designs are bad just kinda lacking now that where in season 2 since we've gotten so much new info and info that makes season 1s info not make sense anymore like does anyone else feel like season 2 is like a weird off the main timeline universe like nothing from season 1 seems to have moved into season 2 it cant just be right sorry this is about moxxie see I can talk about him much cause he's not really the problem its like mainly the world building
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this was fun again I don't really think moxxie or blitzØs designs are bad just kinda lacking now that where in season 2 since we've gotten so much new info and info that makes season 1s info not make sense anymore like does anyone else feel like season 2 is like a weird off the main timeline universe like nothing from season 1 seems to have moved into season 2 it cant just be right sorry this is about moxxie see I can talk about him much cause he's not really the problem its like mainly the world building
You've done more here than in the show, so good job. Is there to be a lore reason why Moxxie's eyes shift from black pupils to red irises?
Ah yeah that's not something they can do anymore to avoid issues with lust imps having the eyes style I figured when wrath imps get wild there eyes go full glow like you cant see there eyes anymore glow
what if greed imps with gold spikes had wings, since they are based on dragons and because greed imps with gold spikes are rare they would maybe fly away so they can keep all the gold for themselves. it would also be good if moxxie had wings just smaller so he could still fly away from enemies. it would also make more sense than succubus having wings because they never use them for anything.
Honest to God I feel the same way, now don't get me wrong I still love/like helluva boss and still a fan but I can say for me that season 2 has been...rocky to say the least. From the ideas to some of the moments in the episodes to the characters all feel...out of place. Season 1 timeline, jokes, and overall vibe clears season 2 out of the park(again in my opinion heheh)
But anyways as always love your redesign and I hope you have a good day👍❤
I really love your redesigns since they bring out their characters more and I'm really curious about your re-write if the story! I also love how you gave all the imps from different rings evolution differences!!
Moxxie: *Hates his dad and wants no connection to the Greed ring at all.*
Also Moxxie: *Continues to look like his father’s long lost twin.*
Fr, Like bro is straight up a Carbon-Clone of his Dad 😐
Youd think hed try to look less like him in some way but nope I mean even identical twins go hard to not look alike sometimes
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Yeah ‘cause if you hate your abusive dad you want to see him every time you look in the mirror
@@DoodleMcNoodle.mp4 YES, Like why look like someone who abused you or… LITERALLY KILLED YOUR MOM!?!? 💀
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The messed up part is
Crimson made Moxxie push his own mother into a river and drown her!
Even if she did survive that, that’s got to be traumatizing!
I feel like Moxxie in Unhappy Campers would've worked if his problems were implyed/shown to be from having to deal with his screwy relationship problems, and just dealing with the whole Striker fiasco back to back/in the span of 2 episodes; it would make sense for him to crack in a toxic way, but they do nothing about how M&M have been dealing with these events other than "we're fine/still a perfectly healthy, cute couple!"
Yeah theres alot that could have been done with unhappy campers and yes your so right it bugs me that the characters dont Acknowledge what's been going on they go right back to everything's fine and its like no it's not fine
Yes, and i really hated how millie just ignored moxxie and let everyone bullied him just because she wanted attention, she would NEVER do that to him
@@bluecat2142FR!! They've ALWAYS been "perfect" with no real hints to any real inner problems with each other! (other than the fact that they haven't really been on their own, but that isn't even really brought up!) Honestly, that weird conflict Millie had could've easily been tied to that, with Moxxie having his tied to that by having that being the base of this Jenga stack of inner turmoil or something! I mean, the poor guy had a horrible dad, a horrible ex (who might've been bad too, but that's just me), and a dude he's delt with twice who ALMOST KILLED A GOETIA! How could -he- EITHER OF THEM not want this kind of toxic amount of comfort after what happened!?
@@LovesArt23Holy crap, thanks for the reply & like!! As a Fnaf fan who has recently seen the movie, I'm ecstatic to see your take on Fnaf characters! Perhaps doing Mike or Jeremy (characters that haven't really gotten legit designs other than in the mini games, if at all) would be an interesting challenge!
It feels off that they kill for living, (Millie loving it and Moxxie disliking it to an extent), display toxic behaviours (Moxxie does at least) and still have a healthy relationship. It doesn’t make sense. Where’s the fights?? Where’s the unhealthy coping mechanisms?? Where’s the spice??
It’s hell, why the fuck is anything healthy down there
3:04 I feel like the identical thing was a missed opportunity. It could've been used to show that "oh yeah Moxx looks just like Crim, he must act like him too". Like a father like son type of deal, except it's just on the surface. Like a subversion of our expectations and Moxxie's personality is revealed to be completely opposite to Crim.
(freaking love that mafia suit sketch btw)
Yeah that could have been a fun story line for conflict for moxxie but again it's another wasted opportunity for more weird jokes that dont land
@@LovesArt23 I still think it's possible for that storyline to comeback, like threw some bullshit Moxxie finds old photos and recordings of his father and mother and the two were really similar to himself and Millie, thus making him want to distance himself from Millie, thinking he will turn out just like him
Fun fact: Young men typically look more like their mothers, but young women look like both parents, so yes, moxxie should've looked more like mom, but yeah. Btw i love your designs
Wow! I never know that!
That’s… actually true.
Or... Young women look like their mom and dad's grandma🤔
I'm a 1:1 copy of my mom, but I'm aware this is an exception to the rule, haha. My sister is almost the same but very clearly has my dad's face shape, and my brother looks a lot like my grandpa.
Wait how ?is there a biological explanation for that?😮
If Moxxie is good at finding gold, I think it'd be cute if his and Millie's rings are made from gold he worked to find and dig up himself.
Aww see that's prefect
@@LovesArt23 So, since I made this comment, it’s kinda stuck in my head that that could be something that’s a normal part of Greed society; giving someone a piece of your “hoard” to show how important they are to you/how much you cherish them.
Buckzo could have given Tilla her necklace, Crimson could have given Moxxie’s mom either the flower she wears in her hair (with maybe a gemstone in the center,) or he did the same as Moxxie and dug up the gold that made their weddings rings, assuming he’s good at finding gold, like his son.
It could be reversed with Ozzie and Fizz, with Ozzie giving one of his crystals to Fizz and that could have confused Fizz for a long time, before he realizes that Ozzie gives them to all his employees. Except Fizz now caught feelings, whoops.
And it all could have stemmed from when Mammon gave Leviathan the emerald that they wear. I don’t know if that’s where you were going to go with Mammon, when you do his video, but that’s where my mind went.
Listening to the reimagined lore almost made it feel like I'm listening to a fun documentary, love the effort of detail that's been put to match well with the greed of sin and knowing the differences there are between the other sins from their physical appearances
I think one of the things that always bugs me about Moxxie is that they make him like.. too pathetic? LIKE I LOVE A GOOD PATHETIC CHARACTER IN MEDIA. give me a man who cries and can't do anything and I'm absolutely obsessed. But for moxxie, it feels like it just doesn't fit in with the background they give him? He was a top guy in the mafia, the son of the boss, and immediately after leaving that group he became a hired assassin.... so like how is he always losing every fight every time. It feels like they push moxxie and millie to be like the weak/strong duo, with Moxxie being more headsmart and Millie being more physically tough, but often I feel like for Moxxie they go wayyy to ham on it to the point where it just doesn't make a lot of sense for him. In my opinion.
Yeah, I agree.
I love how you genuinely criticize the show without just downright hating on it, great redesign btw!
Finally someone gets what I'm talking about XD
OMG HE LOOKS ADORABLE!!
The curly hair, the lack of eye blinding white, THE DRAGON FEATURES AAAAHHH!! Absolutely love how you actually make the different types of imps actually LOOK different, orange looks great on moxxie❤
For the unhappy campers episode, i completely agree, i would much rather see moxxie be alone trying to find their kill while millie essentially tries to distract everyone while getting some information. Like moxxie could end up having some sort of panic attack for not solving the case quick enough and thinking he was going to disappoint blitz and everyone, and trying to push millie away because he knows how much she helps him all the time and wants her to have fun for once BECAUSE HE LOVES HIS WIFE AND ISN'T A LITTLE PRICK. Ugh, that episode was frustrating tbh
ALSO SUPER EXCITED FOR SISTER LOCATION REDESIGNS!!! Fnaf is by far my favorite game franchise and i know you'll do a splendid job!
Oooh see I love that so much yes that would have been a really good epsiode for moxxie and thank you I'm super proud of this design minus the shoes XD
Considering that the Greed ring seemed to have a huge pollution problem, I like the white with the yellowish hue. Makes it look a little polluted stained.
I’m in love with greed imps taking after “treasure-hoarding” dragons, it’s genius!!
I'm feeling sooo good for giving Moxxie curly hair! Blitzo and Moxxie are spposed to be mixed children (much like Alastor, and Velvette is supposed to be black) but none of them has curly hair!
I know you can be a mixed child of various ethnicities, but having all of them have straight hair (except for Blitz) made blow air out of my nose.
I'm also a mixed child (my mother is creole and my father is algerian) and even if I don't have the darkest skintone in the world
(Maybe I'm albino) I still have some of my parents features, especially with my hair (I look like a goddamn sheep) and if you want to have mixed children characters do it properly!
Moxxie now looks like he's mixed.
And I think it's sad that you had to add more realistic lore to show this aspect of him!
I know that VivziePop tries to be super inclusive with her characters but I don't think she does it correctly, I mean... Not every people who watched Hazbin Hotel understood that Alastor was mixed, I even saw some fanarts of him depicting him as white! You must be careful with your designs, even if it's fantasy-based you have to understand basic things like characters ethnicity!
Anyway: god job once again! 💪
Thank you and I couldnt agree more I still have ppl get surprised when I mention Alastor is mixed and velvet is back and Valentino is latina and I'm a mixed kid as well and it bugs me so hard viv isnt trying to represent her mixed characters better where not all the same the way she makes if seem
I thought only Millie was mixed coded. I haven't seen the video though so maybe I'm missing something.
Edit: Ooh, so it's the part of the rewrite.
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As someone who Is French and has a black parent I can say I've never understood these things, fans told me he was créole which made me like "wut" and then I got it, VivziePop makes all of her characters with dark skin grey colored... wow... such efforts put into it...
She did not even tried to look for creole fashion designers or something ...
@@helluvafreak I agree with you unfortunately, we could've have some actual inclusivity with creative designs which could've gave a subtle message about status quo, but no!
We have weird clichés like the Italian guy who was part of the Mafia (besides being a huge homophobic stereotype) and every colored character are grey toned when the white ones are well VERY white.
I see she's trying but also it really feels like she doesn't want to do actual researches because it's going to change the appearance of her high school OCS...
That's too bad because to my eyes this is just waisted potential.
And judging by the writing of Helluva Boss, I don't think we're gonna have the masterpiece of the century...
I don't even like Moxxie an awful lot but you just made him *infinitely* more attractive to me.
That's my specialty XD
I love Moxxie and Millie but I agree I'd like to see them bounce off of other characters more, Striker being a rival to Millie would be perfect since they're very similar in their morals and culture, with the only difference is that Millie is friendly to outsiders. I really want to see Millie interact more with Sallie May and her family, and wish we could get a flashback to her as a child to show what life is like growing up in wrath.
I remember seeing Crimson’s concept somewhere on twitter, He didn’t LOOK like Moxxie But they Have similar features AND he was Big But small which made him a little bit intimidating. PLUS not to Mention Crimson’ current design is Bad design in my opinion. As it straight-up just Edgy Moxxie. I love your Moxxie’s Design! He such a Dragon-Cutie! ✨💗✨
I've seen that concpet art I honestly that's the best design moxxies dad could have been I dont get this need that the parents need to look like there kids twin or be twink bodys like the storyboard of crimson was prefect
@@LovesArt23 YAS, like it would’ve Fit the Mafia Style Honestly, or give-Off a Sopranos vibe with his storyboard design 😔
I love his creamy and swirl hair! It looks like ice cream 🍦!! And his vest and colors are so dark and pleasent to the eyes! Amazing job!!
Thank you so much
@Lovesart23 You really did a good job!
As for the inhabitants of Greed, you can make them both dragons and dinosaurs.
Besides, I think that the 90s sitcom "Dinosaurs" would have inspired Vivzipop to associate dinosaur creatures and greed.
Historians suspect that dinosaur bones were one of the origins for dragon stories so they could be some dragon demons that have some dino aspects.
@@dizzyizzy7403 In fact, it is the fossils of giant mammals from the Pleistocene (mammoth, woolly rhinoceros, cave bears, etc.) which partly inspired the dragons, because their bones are much shallower in the ground than those of the dinosaurs, at least in Europe.
so many issues in helluva is that formed plot lines are kinda dropped after the episode they're introduced in. if the writers actually decided to focus on a plot instead of jumping from idea to idea, so much would get done. they could've kept with the New Job of the Day thing but managed to get the plot in consistently, like morel orel did! they kept orel causing new chaos everyday but the plot of whats going on in his family isn't ever restarted or droppped like helluva does to it's plots and developments.
it's a good show with good ideas but almost no continuity or developments. iirc, i think only fizz has had any memorable development and we're DEEP in season two.
M&M are so sweet and supportive of each other, I really wish Unhappy Campers was about Millie being a distraction while Moxxie investigated and the episode was more focused on how Millie isn't used to attention because of how large her family is and how Moxxie usually gets more attention than her. It would make some sense why Millie never seems to get her own episodes--she prefers a supporting role.
He's cuter. And the yellow tint to his hair was a good call.
I stan curly haired-dragon Moxxie.
I cant believe he looks like striker now /j
One of my favorite parts of this redesign has to be the different shade of white you used for him (I.M.P finally dont blend into eachother with the exact same color scheme of red white and black), the curly hair, and the dragon features you gave him, mostly the tail. ❤
I kind of like to think your redesigned moxxie’s affinity for theatre and music is more passionate and less nettlesome than the canon one. A fun little headcanon I have for your Moxxie is that he’s an musician part-time and the only reason he’s even still in I.M.P is because Millie would like the support he gives and he’s the only weapons expert they have access to. Of course, thats assuming his backstory is still mostly the same as it is in canon in your rewrite ^^
Oh I've been anticipating this redesign FOREVER.
I absolutely love how thorough and detailed your designs are, so remaking him to be in line with his own backstory is definitely a treat!!
Keep up the fantastic work! 🙏🙏👌👌
I don't think you are overthinkinh. You are just doing what the writers couldn't.
Moxxie being more quite dragon-looking as appearance really tells he's the least violent of the crew as well shows more he's a mix of greed and wrath rings
I love how much thought you put into these redesigns. I can’t wait to see the rewrite episode. (This isn’t that important, but I kind of wanted the scene M&M at loo loo land to be swapped. Showing Millie’s tough wrath side, and Moxies sweet side with slight hints of his greed imp heritage. But it’s just a cute idea I wanted to share lol)
I always thought I was the only one that went full Hyperfixation on worldbuilding and things like genetics, societal structures and norms, and historical events within stories!! It’s really cool to learn about things like that within fictional stories because it feels more real! I love your Moxxie reimagining! While I do disagree with a few things, it’s honestly really creative and puts a new perspective into what Moxxie could have been like if there was a tiny bit more thought out into this show, although I still do love Helluva Boss :)
Once again, you nailed it, my friend. Even though the two Moxxies look different, you can tell that this guy is supposed to be Moxxie, even with the change-up of colour, costume and general appearance. Yet, his general pose and attitude instantly tell me, "Yeah, that's Moxxie alright." Again, fantastic work as usual, and quickly, I dig (Hehe, get it because Greed demons dig- yeah I hate myself too) the idea of Greed demons being dragons, they are commonly used to symbolise greed by hoarding gold, but in both the Bible and Paradise Lost dragons, there are mentioned of dragons or Lucifer is described as a dragon. So, that's pretty cool in my opinion and creative, (I might wanna write a fic using that- WITH CREDIT) anyway I gotta go, see you next time my friend, keep up the good work. BYE!
I commented this already, but, since it was a fun coincidence that have similar ideas about Helluva and dragons I'm going to post what I wrote here.
I'm working on an au called "The Imp and the Dragon", it's a slightly darker but sentimental deconstructionist story about what I love and don't love about the show and Moxxie & Millie while fleshing out the setting. Inspired by Emositecc's au focusing on Mazzie, the daughter of Moxxie and Millie with the latter dying of childbirth, but with Moxxie dying instead.
The gist of the story focuses on the aftermath of Moxxie being killed in a fight with a wealthier demon, due to a mixture of trying to impress Millie and be a stronger imp, and to rob the guy for money so that she can go to a hospital to give birth. Millie is now an overprotective single mother feeling guilty that she encouraged Moxxie to not be concerned with morality and for taking part in a culture that pride's itself on selfish violence leading to her being strained with her family and friends. Her child Mercy meanwhile is very curious and adventurous like his younger mother and wants to be an explorer across the rings of hell. Mercy's curiosity gets the better of him when he is abducted by a young a vampire bat like dragon who also lost their family to a fungal disease (inspired by white nose syndrome), that Mercy fed from his window and now wants him to replace it's sibling. To make matters worse Mercy isn't as immune to fire as his mom and maybe accidentally be killed by his new and only friend.
The story would focus on themes of nature vs nurture, self improvement, cultural bias, disposability of people, grief, guilt, racism, environmentalism, death, class, and love. While I do kill him off in my story it's not because I dislike Moxxie, but because I wanted to write a story about what his positive relationship means in a harsh world and how fragile it is and what role Millie and Blitzø, play into his downfall despite loving him, and how to be compassionate in a social Darwinistic society.
IDK where I'd post it, maybe deviant art, i'd say archive of our own because it has some great stuff, but, that website is sus.
@@lorddevilfish5868My god now I'm invested. Wherever you post it I'll keep an eye out for it, I hope the writing goes well my friend.
@@ieuansmith518 Thank you! I might share the Google doc here when I complete a decent chunk of the story.
@@lorddevilfish5868Can't wait.
@@ieuansmith518 Wrote the description and the first of many chapters tell me what you think! docs.google.com/document/d/16thFnJ2J4bf6kMSyLaRkcI39uLK_FXnhoX7G-L7JRQc/edit
Moxie looks really good I like the dragon and gold as well as the new lore. I like that to cement him as the odd one out you put little hints that IMP is just a job and nothing more to Moxie it helps him stand out amongst his murder happy coworkers. A little off topic but I thought of this idea a few days after the Blitz video. I like that in the show Milly is a physical fighter while Moxie is a gun expert but perhaps Blitz has his own preferred weapons? Like since he has vision damage in this version maybe he gravitates towards shotguns and small knives things that don’t require aiming and fighting at a distance. So now it would be Milly likes mid range weapons fighting close but not too close, Moxie likes long range weapons like guns that keep him away from being in the middle of the violence, while Blitz prefers to be right on top of it because he would have a hard time judging distance and because he likes fighting. Anyway back to the video I am now really interested in your version of greed after the little bit you gave us and can’t wait to see you tackle five nights at Freddie’s.
YES oh my gods greed imps looking like dragons and digging for gems and whatnot is freaking AWESOME...
3:20 I agree so much tbh. Especially since if he grew up traumatized in the mafia forced to kill people, and had these morals in ep 1, kinda makes you wonder why he chose the job in the first place?
And what would happen if they had to target a family that genuinely was innocent and wasn’t evil like the murder family? Or like in Cherub, they had to convince someone to commit suicide but this time they were a really kind person?
And Blizo was so pissed at Moxxie in ep 1 for nearly ruining their mission, plus Millie not even caring abt humans at all in ep 1. Like the new eps don’t really seem to want to focus on this particular stuff, but there’s kinda missed potential here since this could cause a rift between the team or something
You did my boy justice! Seriously, he looks adorable.
I love the ideas you have for redesigns! The lack of rings bothered me too and my idea was that they could have a horn rings to make it apparent of the hells culture. But in the end I love the mixed look of Moxxie!
He’s become even more precious omg
For real, i always just assumed Greed Imps were part of some "hellish diaspora", thus their given name, but if they were meant to ACTUALLY be hybrids...
Yeah, Crimson's more muted red skin is not giving, specially considering is pretty similar to Sally Mae's (a Wrath born), so no. It would have made more sense if he (Crimson) was a pureblood Greed citizen if he is so "influencial"
ANYHOW, Moxxie looks great, him and Striker are my favorites, can't wait to see his re-design 😁😁😁
I'm going to be honest, I feel like a lot of things in Helluva Boss are not planned out, two of these things being the world building and Moxxie's backstory. If they were genuinely planned out and not thought of on the spot, Moxxie's character would make much more sense and the world building would not be so chaotic and incomprehensible. I really like your rewrite and can't wait to see what you have written out, thank you for actually fixing a majority of Helluva Boss' problems and adding new creative stuff to your rewrite!!
Moxie does show some moral in the first episode when they were about to kill the mom of the family he said “it would be ok if it was a mobster dad or abusive father but a mom of a family is wrong” basically hinting to who is father was and how he feels about his mother
(This is what I feel his character reflected in that episode and I made that connection)
10/10 you gave him a snoot
Когда я смотрю на вашего Мокси, мне кажется, что он будет очень вежливо объяснять жертве, что еë сейчас убьют, типо:
«Здравствуйте, Сэр, я из компании И.М.П., у нас заказали ваше убийство. Пожалуйста, лягте в такую-то позу, поскольку заказчик попросил, чтобы вы умерли в такой позе. Спасибо за понимание».
I love that so much yes that's so prefect
Even though I didn't like la snoot, it definitely works better for the show and that episode where Moxxie meets Millie's parents, having snoot would explain their bigotry towards him
I think him looking more like his mom should be a design chocie in the first place :/
Very nice job!
He’s still a lil bean, just dragon.
I really love Moxxies design and I really like what you did with the whole dragon concept being greed! The imps in the HB universe are my favorite because it feels like you can mitch and match, but I feel like the lust imps are the only ones who look like the ring they are from because all the other imps just look plain. I love how you put your own in sight of the world building and I’m looking forward to the rewrite!
Greed imps be like: Follow the Gold and Rule!
Now that you mentioned it, it is weird that Moxxie didn't try to change his looks after running away from the mafia. Like, meybe he could have dyed his hair black like his mom, change his style a little or wear contacts? i know that you can only do so munch when you look lika a literal clone of your dad but it looks like Moxxie didn't even tried, he didn't even change his suit. No wonder Crimson knew where to find him, he sucks a hyding.
He looks so cute now, lil mixed dragon boi
I know right hes so cute I cant help but smile when i look at him XD
Can’t wait to see what you do for him! I bet he’ll look incredible! (Also can’t wait to hear all the lore)
As a Kobold(and Dragon) fan, the idea of Greed Imps being dragon-based is so perfect 👍
ive had a problem with crimson's design. he never conveyed enough of a intimadating presence to me his personality helps create that vibe and sense his figure is simliar to moxxie he looks at equal level to him not more powerful then him
You put a LOT of thought into these designs! I love the idea of incorporating dragon/greed theming into Moxxie and it looks GREAT! The gold accents are really giving and I love the rolled up sleeves you gave him. So far I have preferred every design of yours opposed to the show 💖
Thank you so much!
Its an interesting re imagine, the whole dragon based demons would be really cool i agree, and cant wait for edits, it always helps to characters looks like in the show
We need a bingo for hazbin and boss for characters outfits lol
I like the idea of imps from greed being dragon like in a way. Hope the rewrite goes smoothly along with other things too.🌸
6:58 This is such a fun coincidence, I'm working on an au called "The Imp and the Dragon", it's a slightly darker but sentimental deconstructionist story about what I love and don't love about the show and Moxxie & Millie while fleshing out the setting. Inspired by Emositecc's au focusing on Mazzie, the daughter of Moxxie and Millie with the latter dying of childbirth, but with Moxxie dying instead.
The gist of the story focuses on the aftermath of Moxxie being killed in a fight with a wealthier demon, due to a mixture of trying to impress Millie and be a stronger imp, and to rob the guy for money so that she can go to a hospital to give birth. Millie is now an overprotective single mother feeling guilty that she encouraged Moxxie to not be concerned with morality and for taking part in a culture that pride's itself on selfish violence leading to her being strained with her family and friends. Her child Mercy meanwhile is very curious and adventurous like his younger mother and wants to be an explorer across the rings of hell. Mercy's curiosity gets the better of him when he is abducted by a young a vampire bat like dragon who also lost their family to a fungal disease (inspired by white nose syndrome), that Mercy fed from his window and now wants him to replace it's sibling. To make matters worse Mercy isn't as immune to fire as his mom and maybe accidentally be killed by his new and only friend.
The story would focus on themes of nature vs nurture, self improvement, cultural bias, disposability of people, grief, guilt, racism, environmentalism, death, class, and love. While I do kill him off in my story it's not because I dislike Moxxie, but because I wanted to write a story about what his positive relationship means in a harsh world and how fragile it is and what role Millie and Blitzø, play into his downfall despite loving him, and how to be compassionate in a social Darwinistic society.
IDK where I'd post it, maybe deviant art, i'd say archive of our own because it has some great stuff, but, that website is sus.
I didn't know how to feel about your version of Moxxie at first, but now I think it looks great 😃. I never liked Moxxie that much, like Yea he's fine , but everyone has their favorites. It looks amazing, the tail and dragon parts, perfect! But I don't know how to feel about his snoot. I think I will like it in the future, it's just a force of habit😅. ❤
Yeah its taken me a while to like looking at his snoot cause it's so new you know but I've been working on edits and its kinda cute to me now XD
@@LovesArt23 that's easy to believe, I believe that giving him snoot was an amazing idea!💡😄
Ugh, This rewrite and design helps the world building feel so much more fleshed together!
I really love this Re-imagined design of Moxxie! The dragon part is just great!
I can't wait to hear the rewrite! If you ever plan to post it on RUclips when it's fully fleshed out! ^^
Also, I'm so ready for the Sister Location redesigns!!
Okay but the fact I can still tell this is moxie and I just see his character in the redesign so much makes this such a great design!!
god he looks so nice, ty for what youve done. howd u make me attracted to this guy 💀
idk, if i was the son of a mafia boss and didnt want him to find me, i'd probably at least change my name 🤷 how wild would it have been if crimson said a different name when he saw him. it could've been a good parallel to Blitz as well
It wouldve been so cool if Moxxie was a name he chose for himself and his birth name was a color name like Crimson’s is (but for this moxxie instead of a red color name it would be some shade of orange)
Ooooh, I just had a thought. You know how Moxxie’s mom doesnt have a name in canon? To go with this rewrites lore of Greed, what if her name was Ruby? Or Rubie, however you wanna spell it.
Not only is Ruby red a shade of red as a color, but Ruby is also a gemstone. And maybe that could be one of the reasons she and Crimson even got together in the first place. Her name would remind Crimson of gems and shiny things.
Ok I love all that yes
Omg I had been thinking about a design of Mammon that takes after Western dragons and it's like you read my mind 🤯
Dragons are also heavily associated with hell in the bible-so replacing the dinosaurs with dragons would make sense as dinosaurs are just-dinosaurs like i swear vivzie just slaps whatever animal theme sounds cool to her & doesnt actually take into account what the bible estiblishec
I find it so annoying when all the child characters are a copy paste of one of the parents in works. It’s very lazy and unrealistic for every child to be like that. One or two is fine because it does happen rarely (literally me being the only case I know) but it’s just annoying and distracting if it’s all of them.
17:12 also you make perfect sense . Build up is so important because it makes everything feel more natural and seeing it makes us more invested in the situation and resolution. Tbh HB seems to struggle with ,to use the roller coaster imagery, with having both an upward climb and downward rush. Sometimes they are really great at one but have trouble with the other part of constructing the emotional roller coaster leaving a unfulfilled or confused feeling in at least me as I watch.
anyways sorry for the long comment and love the redesign and hearing the thought you put into it, especially the button part I would have never thought of that.
I wonder if you are going to keep the tree aspect for Mammon, because it ties in well with your interpretation of Greed, in particular with the mythical tree with golden apples from the garden of the Hesperides guarded by a dragon, as well as an allusion to natural resources and of course the expression (Jock in this case) "money doesn't grow on trees".
Besides, I can imagine this version of Mammon being a sort of root system that can basically incarnate in any plant in hell, but is therefore obliged to be perpetually in contact with the ground.
You mentioned how part of the Greed ring's theming is circuses, and that made me realize something: Why is almost EVERY RING dominated by either a performance-based theme or a ruler who loves performing?
The Greed Ring has Mammon and his circus and theme park.
The Gluttony Ring has Belzeebub who is basically an animated Ke$ha without actually having Ke$ha sing.
The Lust Ring has Asmodeus who sings and dances at clubs.
The Pride Ring has Charlie, the daughter of Hell's main ruler, singing on TV like a Disney princess, and a love of performing MIGHT be something she inherited from her father.
That's like four out of the seven rings that are dominated by performers in some way, shape, or form and I don't get *why.* Maybe the writers just love having songs and dance scenes, which is fine I suppose, I just don't get why more than half of Hell has to be filled with singing and dancing.
Like, the Greed ring should be all about money and banks and stuff, kind of like how Sloth is filled with hospitals.
My theory is that it wasn't always the case but they simply got bored over the millennia. And resorted to turning to turning there domains into entertainment to try to end there boredom.
@@Demicleas Good in-universe reason. I just don't see a behind-the-scenes reason outside of the showrunners just loving performances.
Possibly might be due to Lucifer being a chief musician when he was an angel so after his fall, he integrated his talent onto all seven rings of hell
@@mangopeanutjam ngl it would be nice if instead of it being circus themed, every ring represents a different genre of music?
Like maybe Greed can have jazz since it involves the mafia
Or sloth be tech-futuristic music since they got cool tech stuff
@@petthepirate3115Oh! That would be cool!
Thank the stars your doing Ballora first because I still can't wrap my head around why her top looks like that
I know right it's just like wtf was that design
I really wanna say more about this design but I just can't think of anything to say other than I really love how it turned out! He looks more polite and it really shows his personality just through the designs. The colors are way more pleasant and well blended together! That's all, really love your designs, girl! :D
4:13 Im glad someone agrees with me on this, cuz I feel like Striker wouldve worked better as Millie's rival than Moxxie's
3:02 I think imps colors fade over time, and that's why a lot of the older imps have much greyer shades of red for skin
I adore the snoot, god it must be booped!
Boop away
@@LovesArt23 YESSSS >:3
Your redesigns are spot on, and your lore makes it *chef's kiss*.
I always love your videos. I really love how you do your research when you’re redesigning/reimagining other characters and how your opinions makes total sense to me 😉👍🏼
I’d love to see your rendition of his parents and Striker at some point, your designs are so good 😊 also i wanna say this whole video fixed every issue i had with moxxie’s character
I love this re-design, it really fits Moxxie imo and I love the idea of dragons being the greed creatures so the imps would look like them ❤😊
I can't wait for your rewrite!, honestly i hadn't even thought of the green dinos as a fosil fuel joke, the dragons make more sense, especially in your take were both the sharks and imps are not fully from greed so the ring needed a species fully from there (i forgot about the skeleton jesters, but to me they don't make sense even if mammon is one).
I think it makes sense if the skeleton jesters were skeletons of dragons since dragons are magic or something like that or make the dinosaur dragon like to show that dragons evolved into different lizards for different tasks
Your designs have grown so much on me I'd legit buy a standee of them
I really like that you gave him short sleeves. Right now I'm having to fight the obsession of giving all my characters long sleeves and boots 😂
But also with what the conflict between Moxxie and Millie could be, I have an idea. Maybe Moxxie had to deal with obeying his father and never having a say in anything. So when he runs away and marries Millie, that was the first decision he made.
However, Moxxie still struggles with speaking for himself and possible codependency. Which would explain his 'happy wife, happy life' mentality. I'm still figuring out Millie
If we were in the Renaissance period, I'd campaign to be your apprentice. I ADORE your work. The world building you do is so cool!
Omg you made moxxie look like a lil guy i love himmm!! Also making him a dragon hybrid is really cool!!
My theory for the dinosaurs in hell is that they were originally native to wrath and just expanded to the other rings of hell (except Envy) it's just my personal theory
Really cool. I really like ur ideas for the rings and lore and culture u make so much more interesting. And I agree w/ u on the Happy Campers bit the argument made no sense.
Thank you and yeah I kept watching other review channels and each one had a different response to the argument and I'm just like yeah cause there argument didn't make sense XD
Once again you knocked it out the ball park! I love your rewrites and lore drops! It always slays!~ 💅✨
Thank you so much!!
@@LovesArt23 welcomes keep up the amazing work 💕✨
Someone send this to Richard Horvitz! He’d absolutely love this redesign!
You're right that Moxxie looks a bit too much like his dad. When I voiced my criticism on this in the Helluva boss sub I got attacked; I received lots of replies saying "oh, my and my mom/dad are identical to the point of being twins". And sure, in some cases it's possible for parent and child to look very similar (though Im not sure of being "completely identical") but for it to happen 3 times in a row isnt realistic. And the HB fandom is such a toxic hellhole (no pun intended).
Greed imps being dragon like is such a cool idea!
At this point Moxxie VA is carrying this character because Moxxie is really irritating moreso that stolas
For real XD
Ok but the idea of dragons and greed.YES. Idk if im reading it wrong but I find it ironic how moxxie is half dragon meaning you’d expect him to be HUGE but he is really small and pretty scrawny compared to what a dragon looks like usually in some fantasy. Just a thing I kinda noticed :D
I opened up RUclips and this was the first thing I saw, I clicked so fast.
Love the small hints to his mother and the snoot, it’s adorable. Can’t wait for the rewrite and Ballora.
i got nervious with your moxxie teaser until ya finally revealed the full thing
your moxxie still captures og^^
I saw some ppl freak out a bit and I was like just wait I promise itll make sense XD
Thank you for fixing Moxxie's hair horns. I always hated the way they phased into each other. Also, for personal Heaven and Hell projects, I also gave the imps(which are spread across the 11 circles in my interpretation.) I had Greed imps possess a mix of dragon and goblin features. Goblins are a unique species to Greed, if you're aware of goblin lore, I thought it made sense.
The dragon greed citizens are such a smart idea! Like the dinosaur idea is funny as a joke but dragons make way more sense. Also when you said Moxie has a button as the logo, I was like ‘yeah Blitzo wouldn’t spend that much on him’ lol 😅
Cause realistically Millie would be the one Blitzo would want out of the two of them. Like we don’t know how he meant Millie but it makes way more sense he sought out her to make an assassin service than some guy he meant in prison for robbery
I feel like just from the still image, your Moxie design has a tremendous amount of character. Love your work here as always !
I absolutely love your redesigns and reimagines! And mozzies redesign was n o i c e
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Ok, now that we have the whole I.M.P team I can say: your designs are better the actual canon ones.
If we look at Moxxie we quickly notice that he's the only one with no scars on his body which sends the "out of place" subtext, it makes the spectator wonder "What is he doing here?"
Talking about this, I want to share my opinion about Moxxie's background:
He's the son of a mafia boss...
And that alone makes him have no sense anymore..
We learn that he was trained to kill people who've done nothing to him since a very young age (young enough to still needing help for cutting his food), so why did he had that panic attack in the first episode of season 1 when he had to kill Martha?
Because "they're a happy family"?
1) He knows that this is bullshit, he knows that Martha is cheating on her husband, even after her accident, and has pushed a woman into murdering her husband and committing suicide, he knows that she's not a good person who could destroy her own family if her (many) adulteries were found out.
At this point, killing her wouldn't be a problem, let her live would become one if he cares that much about the "wholesome and happy" family thing.
2) And if we think about it: How many people did he had to kill, back in his mafia days, who claimed that they had a family?
For someone who's killing people since such a young age, who's now at least 30 years old, is married to a serial-killer woman and working for an assassination company, murdering people shouldn't be a problem, wether they're innocent or not (especially when you remember the type of person Millie is).
And I don't think this panic attack had any link to the death of his mother.
I don't think Moxxie sees his mother as a cheating person who could indirectly kill someone else by acting selfishly like Martha.
There was no problem about killing Martha!
But I assume she wasn't an ugly old man, right Moxxie? Remember in the episode 4 where he just gives weapons to a man so he can kill himself and go to hell? Actually, this might've been some character growth on him, if it wasn't scrapped on in the fifth episode of Season two, where he's whining about "making it right".
When you though he might have learned his goddamn lesson after this Martha bullshit he just goes back into "not killing good people"...
Plus, for the son of a Mafia boss he's pretty lame at finding out someone he has to murder, Millie found before him!
Also: with such a homophobic father with obious toxic views on masculinity there's no way Moxxie could crossdress so easily.
And if he has no problem to fuck with Millie on a huge scene in front of children why the fuck did he had a problem with talking about sex at Ozzie's which is a LUST club in the LUST ring?! (I think it could've actually been a funny gag)
You're an imp and you don't know what the Lust ring is about?
Anyway I think Moxxie was ruined for an overly dramatic background like Stolas...
And I think that's lame...
What do y'all think?
I totally agree, like how is Moxxie ok with doing millie in front of a crowd of kids but in the beginning of the mission he told millie to not talk about banging when she's miller due to the age group being lower than he expected? It makes no sense at all. I think pilot moxxie is more tolerable
@@_Yeeboi_ Am I the only one who finds pilot Moxxie more... two dimensional? Over time his only personality trait became sensitivity which was only a part of his personality. In the pilot and the earlier episodes he was a lot like Dipper from Gravity falls. Sensitive, nerdy, "not masculine enough", but also critical, cynical and he wasn't afraid to voice his opinion. I loved it so much and no one seems to talk about it when they mention inconsistent or ruined characters.
Gosh he looks so much cuter and better ngl. And for some weird reason he kinda reminds me of that one tv show about boy, who could turn to dragon. Looking for ballora' s redesign
I can't wait to see your rewrite. Also I do think it's a good idea that greed is yellow because it is gold, instead of american money. I'm excited for your rewrite.
Omg I think this is my fav so far u did so good with this!
This is kind of random, but why do they continuously insult moxxie about his weight? Like it doesn't really make sense in regards to his design nor his overall narrative. Can someone just please explain this to me because I think I just don't understand.
I cant find anything about it and I've looked but yeah I didnt get the joke at all it's not even funny
It because Moxxie attitude reminds loona of the hellhound that work at the adoption center/pound and she was fat and condescending so loona projects him as fat because he's also condescending even though that's untrue
Omg just finished watching it:), love the idea of moxie being a dragon like-imp, and your art is always on Point❤
(btw you should totally do a Crimson reimagined/ redesign I would LOVE to see him in your style!)
Your redesigns and character designs as a whole are always so stunning and well put together!! It's genuinely so inspirational! :'DD💞💞💞