Watch this Before Buying A Gas Water Heater Tank
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This was an exact replacement for the old one that lasted about 10 years. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh The top of my mitigation tube by my roofline was just a 90 elbow which allowed too much debris to fall down into the fan, eventually ruining it. Without this issue, I bet it would have kept running another 10 years. When I replaced this fan, I added an extra elbow joint so the top tube now it does a 180, which should solve that problem. The radon guys around here wanted to charge me a $300 diagnostic fee, then parts/labor (probably close to $600 total). I installed this all by myself in about an hour for the cost of the fan; it would probably be even easier/faster with two people. FYI the manufacturer's warranty greatly differs depending on whether you install it yourself (1 yr warranty) or have a licensed installer do it (10 yrs).
I don't know what you're saying. Write your post in a way so the layman person can understand. If I need my water heater replaced what do I tell them to do to implement your fan solution?
Always great to follow you with the modern builds! As a Seabee in the navy your knowledge has helped me both with design and certain product usage. Keep up the good work!
At the beginning of the video it's not fair that you compared a 40 tall to a 50 short. If you look in the spec sheets the talls are significantly more efficient than the shorts. So it's a bad test to compare recovery rate on only 2 water heaters while changing 2 variables (capacity and form factor). You should compare 4 water heaters to understand the changes caused by 2 variables.
Thanks Matt from NE Pa. Great info! Never knew about the extra rod. Love your information.Nice to see a ethical builder
I am a Veteran, thanks! And I want to THANK YOU for that great information. Heading out now and will probably buy a Rheem like the one in your demo.
Instead of paying for the 'extended warranty,' you can just replace the anode rod every 4-6 years. They're anywhere from $10-50, depending on the kind. This is something you should do regardless of what tank you buy. I just checked the anode rod in my 7 year old tank that had a 6 yr warranty and it was completely gone. I think it was more than a coincidence!
You'll also want a heavy duty impact gun to remove the old anode and you'll need enough vertical height to reinstall the new one.
Ideally, take it outside and lay the heater on it's side. Then remove the anode and drain valve and spray out the sediment with a garden hose. Then you can peek inside with a small flash light and inspect the inside and then replace the anode.
@@phiksit arent anode rods only for electric tanks?
Don Schlonski no...they are in all tank water heaters
@@phiksit if you short of vertical space then you can buy sections anode rod.
@@RoddyDa they are not in all tank heaters but most
First home at 27 years old and been in my home 8 years, never knew my water heater had to be drained once a year. Just know now I see a lot of mineral build up around faucets. Thank you for all the information, will be putting it to use.
If you drain it and the bid gets clogged then you are screwed…. Never drain it
Same here but I guess it’s also risky to drain it
I think you need to drain it at least once every 2-3 years and change the anode every 3-5 years. If the bib completely clogs, you need to back flush it with a washer hose connected to a garden hose. There are YT videos showing how to do that.
Really informative video. Thank for making it and being a USMC veteran, thank you for the parting message.
Built our house in '98 and still using the original Rheem Ruud 50 gal gas hot water heater. Flushed it a couple times, way back when, it works just fine. Never swapped the anode either. But I bought a brand new 50 gal Rheem, going to install it next couple days. I been living on borrowed tank time for 10 years. It owes me nothing. Big fan of the Rheems.
Thanks for all the awesome information and have a great 4th!!!
Happy 4th Matt, and thanks for this video. I have a feeling my tank will be soon to go.
Had the nest luck with Richmond 40 Gal, gas w/ nine year warranty. Got 14 years so far and still going. Thanks, and when I repl. it, I'll install a 3/4 " ball valve on the drain outlet. Toss the plastic or other cheap valve.
Nice video and thankful I watched to the end to hear the parting message. 👍
Love all your videos and I joined this month. You have helped me a lot with my renovation. Where can I by a build hat and/or build t-shirt to keep me motivated?
awesome presentation!!!! thank you for sharing.
anode rods are typically replaced between 5 to 10 years. a good anode (magnesium) is less than $60. performing annual flushing of tank to get rid of sediment and replacing the anode when needed are far and away the number one factor determining the life of a water heater.
You should show how the extra anode is installed on a show.
Thank you for your tips and also thank you for your services.
Very helpful tips! Thanks! 😀
Amazing country is right! You also have got great content. Please keep it coming. I love it.
Hey Matt! USAS Veteran here and I have a 40 gallon gas water heater tank that is near 27 years old. Knock on wood it still works however, I can tell it's probably time to upgrade to a new one. I've never drained it for the 18 years I've been living in my home. Do any 40 gallon tanks already come with the extra long rods and stuff you talked about in this video or do I have to buy them separate? Second, what brand should I go with?
Thanks for the tip.
Is there a video showing how to install the extra anode rod?
The ppk is installed on the hot side since the cold has the everclean dip tube to help prevent sediment build up. It’s also important to note, the ppk increases the tank protection and warranty. Does not affect the parts.
Hey Matt, first of all, thanks for all the great information. I saw this AC Smit gas water heater at Lowe's that is Self Cleaning. What does that mean and how does it work?
Thank you to all vets, I plan to serve beside you. Thanks Matt for drilling into my head to drain your tank. I need to visit my parents and ask them if they ever have. I dont think they have and its been over 15 years since they lived there. Also the water heater has plastic at the valve. They want to go to tankless. Any tips that I can forward? They want a gas one.
i was going to buy a tankless but the cost savings is not that much. they are a lot more money and you
have to have a much bigger gas supply line for them. at the end of the life span, they total cost is about the same. i stayed with the tank.
You rock! Thanks for all the Awesome tips.
The second anode would go in the hot side outlet, the inlet needs a dip tube to direct cold water down to the burner
Great tips thanks! That was cool you thanked a Veteran!
Thanks for explaining! What I learned: as long as I replace the anode rod, getting a cheaper warranty is just fine! Holy cow the anode rode is a $50 part!
Appreciate the knowledge greatly, how times have changed for this country since July of 2018.
Awesome video. Thanks!!
Damn, I just bought a 50 gallon tank. I wish I'd seen this yesterday.
Your welcome. Keep up the great videos.
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How do you Vent one of these if you have a small mechanical room in a cold climate?
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I have heard that there is no difference between the higher warranteed models and the lower. Having a different anode would make sense, but just replace the anode in 5 years and save the money. Plus who actually honors a warranty, they always find a way to wiggle out of paying it.
The second anode shouldn't change how well the tank is protected, it would just make the replacement interval longer. It would get more life out of it for people who never replace them (most people).
@@DanN-nv7kg 20K in legal fees, to maybe recover 500, yeah that is why they don't fight it.
Does the same apply for electric heaters? I'm in the process right now of flushing my house and will be buying a new tank soon.
I'm one of those lucky people to have a house that was built when the tanks had the dissentagrating dip tubes..
Guess what every faucet in my house has in it...
The previous owner just thought they had really hard water........
Amen. Thank you all veterans!!!
Matt im building a house an putting stairs from the garage to the basement an would like to use the space under the stairs can it be done to make them fold in half
I have a 75 gallon AO Smith gas water heater installed 1994 in NYC 2 family house. Periodically I ran water from the water heater spigot until it ran clear in a bucket. But now I’m seeing rust accumulate on top of the water tank around the center opening and around a water pipe. So I’ve been lucky with this tanks lifespan. I just want to replace it with a reputable name brand that can handle washer machine & 4 floors of full showers/tub and toilets. Any suggestions?!!
can i replace the rod regularly without installing the extension kit?
Nice report.
can I put an extra tube in our Bradford White that we had installed today?
Hello. I have been having problems with my hot water tank pilot light blowing out all winter several times a day. Was told I needed a cap on my chimney. Did that and two days later it went out again. No one can see an issue. I had several people, even supervisors, come and try to figure it out. Nothing. I re lit the pilot but for whatever reason I turned it so the water is hotter. It has now been a week and the pilot light has not blown out once. Have you heard of a situation like that before? I opted to replace tank but don't want to if there is another solution they have not suggested. There are other things I need to do in this house if I don't have to replace the tank right now. Thank you
The nipple couple with anode rod you hold is for hot water outlet, if you put it in cold water inlet then you will never get hot water.
Install expansion tank, check T&P release valve at least once a year, flush water heater 1~2 times/ year will make water heater last longer.
Can you just add a 2nd anode to your new or existing water heater? Or can you only do that to certain ones?
Nice call out to the military. Thank you.
What about changing the metal anode every couple of years to extend the life of the tank?
I have a tank that runs on gas but i hate the fact that the gas valve is hidden behind and not accessible. Is it possible to run it on those small propane gas sold on stores
My parents' house has a 27-year-old Rheem water heater. It probably has never been drained, or anodes replaced. Only problem a couple of years ago was the igniter failed, replaced that it is still running. Very hard water. I am replacing it this year, so I might try to cut it open and see what the insides look like.
Be sure to talk with your gas company about a rebate for getting an efficient, money saving unit too! 💰
Can you please do a video on central vacuum systems?
I have one and they are great. I'm surprised Matt doesn't do these in nearly every custom home. It's a lot better than lugging a vacuum cleaner around the house.
Thanks
I have that exact 40 gallon tank👍
Thinking about running a bypass on my condenser on my air conditioner to a tank to warm up the water before it enters my tankless hot water heater, I have seen these types of units used on warming up swimming pool water, do you have any suggestions on the how I can make this work thanks
Yes Texas has hard water and with the extra tank I will be able to put two anodes have already flushed tankless water heater each year hopefully this would also help with reducing calcium buildup
thanks for the video...our 1992 tank...when we fill the whirlpool bath there is no more hot water....so I'm still pondering going for bigger size in this ranch house...?
Jason Harbison i wondered if 10 more gallons would make the whirlpool experience nicer
As it is filling it and having no more hot water is a real bummer...useless tub barely used...i wondered if 10 gallons could make a difference...
Everyone in our area has sulfur gas in the water...I heard there is an anode rod specifically for that....what would that be...also...getting ready to remodel most of the house...what is a good way to re-plumb so the sulfur gas does not eat out any metal pipes or brass connections like used in pex...?
Look into electric anodes. I also hear of zinc for that purpose. Why every tank doesn't have an electric anode? They'd sell a lot fewer tanks because they wouldn't corrode.
Do these tips also apply to electric units?
Any tips for buying a new electric water heater?
Good info, great post. Do people even drain their tank? Do you suggest an annual draining?
I never had anyone drain my hot water tank but considering some people said theirs lasted 15+ years, maybe that’s the reason. The last tank I had lasted 13 & 1/2 years with only one service call under warranty. They always recommend to have it drained once a year but I’ve not known anyone to do that.
@@revrotunda3206 My plumber father always said if you don't drain from the initial purchase, don't start draining several years in, that sediment could be preventing a leak. I have a Rheem Power Vent 2, 17 years old, no issues but am starting to get nervous. Don't know if it was ever drained as I am a 3rd owner of this house.
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I always had purchased a Rheem. I lived in a neighborhood where the Rheem manufacturing plant was about a mile away. They’ve since demolished it. I would bet they don’t make these tanks like they used to but that’s just a guess on my part as there’s no way to really know. When I bought my last house, there was already a brand new A. O. Smith in here; a brand I never heard of before but it did last 13 & 1/2 years without draining. But that definitely makes sense to me to not mess with the draining of it years in if not at all. When the A. O. Smith went out, I got a Richmond. Never heard of that brand either as I’ve always gotten Rheems but my neighbor not only sold it to me for only $100.00 but installed it for me as well. It was his Mother’s tank but she never used it as it was too big. Hopefully it will last!
woah. thanks for the tip on the cold water anode rod. i've never seen those. i'm just about to install a new 40 gallon water heater at my house with a 9 year warranty. they definitely don't make them like they used to ! my parents said theirs lasted for like 35 years and was probably never drained !! car batteries as well used to last 10-20 years .. what are they doing to us ??? lol
I'll be installing a free (rebate from gov) heat pump to replace gas heater. Is there anything wrong with keeping the gas unit in the water plumbing line compared to disconnecting and leaving it sit dry. I may want to switch back to gas? The reviews aren't so good with the heat pump units and am expecting it to die sooner than later. But it's free and I have solar panels.
I have 48 gallon Bradford white natural gas ,, it’s leaking now about a cup a day any idea how much I’m looking at for a replacement
My water heater is over 20 years old. Only had to replace the thermo couple so far.
Both of my storage tanks lasted 17 years. And I never drained either of them once.
Well that's a anecdote. I live in a area with hard water and Mine lasted 5 years. I never drained, you can hear the calcium running around
You have good water.👍
Just replaced my first one today. 22 years old never drained. Hard well water.
50 gallon basic chimney vent Rheem, bought in 1996, never drained once and it just leaked all over the basement last night, May 2001.
Same here never drained 50 gallon gas. Installed 1999, so 21 years.
Well, this is sure timely. Mine should have been replaced about 10 years ago. I quite shamefully placed a water leak sensor near it as the worst of stop-gap measures. Thanks again Matt!
What do you think of State water heaters? My Rheam lasted 12 years and my plumber says State is really good. Thoughts?
I believe State is a builder grade (that is, low end) brand.
Matt, love your channel. What about gas tankless water heaters compared to tanks? What’s your experience with them?
when you vent through roof (vertical) do need a drain on power vent? How do you configure?
If you're going into a chimney you don't need a power vent
Aren't the warranties all pro-rated?
I just bought a Rheem hot water heater with the extended warranty kit he mentioned but that 2nd anode rod with 6 inch nipples goes into the HOT Water inlet, not cold as he said. Why does it need 6" nipples and not 3" which is much more common ? Rheem customer support do not know. Also, I wonder why they don't just make all anode rods flexible (like nunchucks) so that users can significantly easily replace them with no space constraints. My two cents.
They do. www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem-PROTECH-54-in-by-0-9-in-Diameter-Flexible-Magnesium-Anode-Rod-for-Electric-and-Gas-Water-Heaters-SP8371B/205652259
I am debating between a Rheem and a Bradford White Water Heater. Which one would you recommend?
I purchased a rheem they are having major problems with gas valve controllers, I don't know if Bradford White is any better.
I have to say Rheem is really good about supplying parts under warranty.
That warranty and second anode is u inquest to Rheem which is sold by Home Depot. If you have Bradford and White you can simply choose to upgrade the warranty to 10 year.
The Secondary Anode Rod Installs on the HOT WATER OUTLET Side ! The Plastic Dip Tube installs on the COLD WATER INLET Side !
Sad isn’t it.
drain the tank every year?
what I have found being an owner of 22 water heaters currently, longevity of a 6 year Cheap water heater vs a 12 year warranty premium unit is about 10 years, and the waranty is usually prorated, so you dont get a new one free if a 12 year unit dies at 10 years. and they dont pay labor, so my conclusion is buy the $300 special at the big box (40 gal Electric) and plan to replace it every 8-10 years, vs buying a $650 12 year your gona replace every 10 years anyway. there are many factors that play in, but this has been my experience. same goes for furnaces but life is about 15 years on the units of today, or of 15ish years ago anyway.
22 water heaters?! You must take baths in a swimming pool and drain it every time.. or have one hell of a family.. you daisey chain em all or they each have their own distribution? With 22 heaters you could have heated toilet water, heated hose for the yard... heated water fountain so it gets all smokey in the winter.. big money over here..
@@Z-Ack I have rental properties, so I own 1 per unit, so I actually have 27 water heaters now including the one in my personal home, and the spec house i am building.
I hope you do a companion video covering electric hot water tanks. That is, the same as above, but using electricity instead of gas.
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Matt, what happens to the new cold water inlet when it deteriorates over time? Does it still allow water to flow inside the tank until the tank rusts or leak at the top?
-Coming from a Journeyman plumber in GA who might advise customers about this option. Also, I love your videos!
Also, once the new cold water inlet deteriorates, won’t it fill the tank up with cold water at the top? Right where the hot outlet is...
So in other words, it would be supplying the hot water outlet with luke warm water that was just faintly heated before supplying water to its fixture.
Im not trying to prove you wrong, I just want to have more information about the extra anode rod.
2:30. You have the model # ?
I bought a rheem gas water heater. Pilot went out so I lit it again. Was out again in thr morning. And wouldn't stay lit. I replaced the thermocouple. Didn't fix it. I removed that stupid sensor thing where the thermocouple screws into the valve. Works fine. So now I have to replace the valve with the same valve that's gonna do the sane thing in a few months lol.
thanks for this Matt, not sure what things are like in texas but here in Toledo Ohio the HVAC industry and unions heavily controls the distributors and therefore it can be difficult as a DIYer to purchase the "good stuff" we are usually stuck with whatever the box stores offer. Any tips on how to buy the more professional type products?
Drive a pickup to another state for your purchase.
@@mstexas It's kinda the whole industry. HVAC protects themselves and keeps consumers from getting their hands on replacement parts even.
You should reccommend a good gas control valve. The Honeywell ones that come on all the tanks are total garbage. Mine bite the dust about every 2 - 3 years.
My gas water heater was installed in 1996 and is going strong. I've done nothing to maintain it. Probably will need to replace it soon though.
Same here (1996) but it's has started to leak, now I have to replace.
Are those Magnesium or Aluminum Anodes? I don't want anymore added Aluminum sediment in my hot water.
Why? First, the aluminum can hardly be described as sediment. And, more importantly, do you drink the hot water? Probably not! Aluminum in OK.
Can I switch my 29 gallon to a 50 gallon?
So water heaters that originally come with a 12 year warranty already have two anodes ?
Just wondering. If I have a water purification/softener system, how much longer will my brand new gas water heater last?
Robert Hoy, funny thing is that although you're not building up as much sediment with a softener system. You are still going to want to flush the water heater yearly, also with a softener system that uses salts to soften the water the anode rod, which protects the water heater from rusting, is used up more quickly so instead of waiting every 3 years to replace your anode rod, I'd recommend changing them every 2 years. Although your softener does help protect the plumbing it does not help prevent rust from forming in your tank and you want to make sure to maintain that to extend the life of your water heater.
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Thanks for the info.
My system is a non sodium based softener. So I don’t believe I need worry about rust so much.
I have a 35 year old electric water heater, that’s never had any kind of maintenance. Still working
lol go buy one
What is "this" ... are you speaking of a second Anode Rod or is the other item in your hand a dip tube?
Wow, I had no idea I had to drain my water heater once a year.
Did I hear you correctly?
If you rewind the video he'll say it again 😉
@@lanejohnson8552 That wasn't nice, but it _did_ make me laugh.
Does this apply to electric as well?
YES
My A.O. Smth tanks are 16 years old (installed in 2003) and are still working fine. Never changed the anode rods and never drained the tanks.
Same here! Have a 19yo Bradford White. No problems, knock wood!
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Matt......3 to 5 year Warranty .......these disappeared many years ago. Today lowest Warranty Is 6 years (major mfg.). That extended Warranty anode rod......1. Where do you get it, 2. Where is it installed and 3. More info on the warranty .....Thanks. Jim
@Olga L Calderón Water heater Is a Water heater Is a Water heater. BUY by price, BUY the lowest Warranty heater. Average life of a Water heater used to be 8 years. Today It’s ? I currently live ina home we bought New In 2003. The builder put In the Water heater. A50 gallon, natural gas through a regular Chimney. First 7 years there were 3 of us and after only 2. Tha Water heater Is still working. I turned down the heater So it makes about 120 degree Water, when it was new. The brand Is State Select made by State Industries. Thanks...Jim
After getting a new water heater, it brings water across the house way faster and it's much hotter even at a medium setting. I'm gonna flush it every 6 months now after seeing how much crap can be in one. We only flushed the old one once haha
How do you perform the drain once a year
Dude theres a million videos that show you. Are you that lazy?
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP do I need to check videos on RUclips for it
A lot of the warranties are PRORATED, not replacement warranties. You might end up with a $50 check.