It’s the variables , the angle , the wind , your stamina the lighting , the temperature, it all affects how the fall travels and you don’t always connect the ball on the sweet spot .
That 66m 'child's play' kick and the first kick of the video, the drop kick, was by the same player, Francois Steyn. He is a known 'giant' kicker. The reason the commentators were so shocked the first video, drop kick went over was because when he kicked it, being a drop goal attempt was the last thing on their mind. Generally a long drop kick is probably harder to aim and score then a conversion.
Hey Rob. Enjoying your channel! With regards to your question "Why don't they use the player who is clearly gifted in terms of kicking more, to score points?" The answer comes down to tactics: If the opposition knows that you're going to go for the drop kick the whole time, they'll align their defence to make it very hard for the drop to work under massive pressure. Naas Botha was the king of the drop, and was hated for it because he could win games by himself under massive pressure. So at a crunch RWC game, (South Africa vs England) Springbok coach Nick Mallet figures "They're not going to suspect a drop kick game." And boom: Jannie de Beer sets a world record. England were, A: not suspecting that anyone would even think of basing a game around it and B: did not adjust their defensive game to it after even the third drop, they were that stunned. The Boks had worked to give de Beer the space and TIME to land the drops. And there's the rub: at Test match level you have to be tactically out of your mind to think you're going to attempt a drop unless it's 80% on, at least. The amount of space and time (albeit split second) required to set it up is way smaller, tighter and faster than it looks on screen. Check this out. It's legend: ruclips.net/video/JMFhnFp7re8/видео.html&ab_channel=WorldRugby
Rob, in rugby you can’t score from kicking directly out of hand, but in Aussie rules that’s the only way you score. In rugby it’s either a place kick, or a drop kick. A drop kick is when you drop the ball onto the ground and then kick it. This is bloody hard to do - timing, ball position etc needs to be perfect. This makes that massive drop kick by Frans Steyn all the more remarkable.
Probably worth pointing out that Australian football used to use drop kicks and place kicks, but when boots changed from lace-ups to modern style in the 70s, drop punts became easier and are a much more reliable passing kick. Australian footballs also used to be much harder than they are now, much like soccer balls.
In earlier times they place-kicked straight on for a number of reasons. The boots were mostly square toed, the grounds were often uneven and muddier and the balls heavier when wet, and kicking tees were not allowed (you dug a hole with your heel) etc. So the simple, straight action was the standard. I remember reading an article by a player from the 1950s who said he actually kept the toe of his kicking boot rough with sandpaper to help the control. But the round-the-corner style came in as the grounds and balls got more consistent and reliable, and the use of kicking tees and round-toe boots gave a bigger sweet-spot for control and accuracy. The power was still there because round-the-corner gives a longer arc as you swing your leg. The Barrett goal at 10:20 has a straighter run-up than usual these days, but the ball sitting up on the tee makes all the difference. Remember that in Australian Rules they punt for goal on the run, so it's a different sort of kicking dynamic altogether, with a different ball. They used to drop kick more often and even place kick, going way back, but neither has been a part of the game for decades.
The main reason teams don't kick for points more often is because of rule changes designed to encourage tries. In particular, in pretty much all rugby competitions I'm aware of, you get four points for a win, and a bonus point for scoring four tries. In last season's Pro14, Leinster and Ulster had the same won-lost record, but Leinster won the conference and qualified for the final because they scored more bonus points. So if you get a penalty in kickable range, more often than not you kick for the corner and hope to get a try from the lineout and resulting maul.
Longest kick in rugby according to the World Rugby Museum: "Ernie Cooper who, at the age of 17, kicked an 81-yard penalty goal to tie a match for his team, Bridlington School 1st XV, in the last minute against an Army XV on 19th January 1944. He took the kick from five yards in from the touchline and one yard outside his own 25-yard line. "
Check out John Williams on th 1969 B&I Lions Tour. Drop kick from his own half with a leather ball (like Thorburn vs Scotland). The other kicks were with lighter (I played with them, they do not absorb water for your viewers!) multiplex balls, which were initially made by Mitre. Kicks are equally difficult, due to reason and required outcome.
I once saw a charity match at Newcastle Falcons. The goal kickers were Peter Beardsley and Paul Gascoigne (they came on like in American Football). Between them they kicked 15 conversions out of 16, some from pretty wide out. So if you can kick one type of ball you can kick the other.
Always need to consider altitude for example easier to kick further in South Africas high veldt. Weather......wind direction, air moisture. That's kick over 60 in NZ is a big achievement.
The one that is most impressive is Paul Thorburn. I started playing rugby as a boy in 1986, and though schoolboy rugby, rather than 5 Nations, the balls were not dissimilar then. They got far heavier when wet - glorified pigs bladders, and there were no kicking tees then - you raised a divot with the studs on your heel.
RDS arena the stadium you mentioned looked strange,thats because its an old showjumping Arena and leinster rugby is just a tenant there. RDS the owners in conjunction with leinster rugby want to redevelop the stand ,but between planning ,waiting for government grants and of course covid ,they have not been able to strat the redevelopment.
I think drop kicks and penalty kicks, though they can be done are rare probably due to pressure and other variable. Like Elliot Daley, he still plays for England but rarely kicks, he has the distance but with distance comes less accuracy. If you're not 100% confident or the wind is quite strong (especially as the ball is going up high) then you might want to just kick for territory or something. Owen Farrell is a specialist for dead ball kicks and most of the time will take them, but doesn't go further than from the halfway line from what I've seen.
Rugby players can kick it just as far but if we want a drop goal we need to drop kick it, so letting the ball hit the ground as we kick it simultaneously is difficult sometimes
@@RobReacts1 The kicker is normally the most consistent and accurate kicker from about 45m in. The long kicks come out when the game is tight and are often Hail Mary attempts to try and gain an lead
Almost all of the top teams have at least 1 "kicker" on the team for pinpoint accuracy and distance, and they usually slot in at fullback. The reason why it's not normally done is because all of those kicks you saw from the ground were penalties - where that's teh location of the penalty, so it's not always at those spots where people will be taking the kicks from. Also, to your question about which is more difficult - drop goals by far (the kicks from teh hands) because the ball has to hit the ground before you can kick it and it's also during the usual running of the game with other players doing their damndest to stop you.
Rob, for a while Rugby went through a spell of teams just scoring from kicking as it was easier. The process of kick,kick,kick was pretty boring. World rugby introduced a rule to encourage attacking play, so that if a team could score 4 or more try's then they would be awarded an additional point in their league standing. e.g. 0 points for a loss, 2 points for a draw, 4 points for a win, and an additional point for 4+ try's. Interestingly even if you lost but still got 4+ try's you also got the additional point. It's made the game so much more diverse and exciting.
The Rugby post are 5.5 m apart, and the crossbar is at least 3 m above ground. The AFL posts are 6.4 m apart with (of course) no crossbar, so the Aussies do have a bigger target.
Agreed, though unless it's an open goal square, the Aussie Rules Goals are generally defended so certainly on a set shot from 50m+ the Aussie Rules player must clear the hands of tall defenders who can jump and reach above 3m. They also must kick beyond their mark the clear the defender standing the mark (who may also be able to jump and block 3m+). So low trajectory long kicks like the "Stab Pass" (a form of front footed drop kick) has become extinct.
Some 2021 kicks in SA: Tiaan Swanepoel (61m but probably closer to 66m) - ruclips.net/video/l8u-EPYhTj4/видео.html Frans Steyn (64m) - ruclips.net/video/QK55SvOO1SQ/видео.html Curwin Bosch (61m) - ruclips.net/video/Mz6DCRvpFqw/видео.html
Due to the shape of the ball the sweet spot would be hard to hit straight on. Why don't they boot it over all of the time? A couple of reasons: 1. the reason they get a reaction is because they don't nail it that often, for every one of these videos showing a perfect kick there are 9 shit attempts. 2. If you miss you are handing over possession to the opposition - if you don't have the ball then you can't score. I suppose this would be an opportunity cost scenario. 3. Long rang kicks from ground are usually taken by a specialist distance kicker, the reason these distance kickers aren't used for every kick is they can give it a whack but aren't as consistent and accurate as the main kicker.
In AFL they kick out of hand (like a punt) so can travel much further, a rugby player could kick a ball out of hand 60+ metres, when it comes to drop goals and place kicks off tee the ball has to bounce/ have contact with ground so the area to strike the ball is so much harder and the angle is taken away to get the height and trajectory needed that's also why they stand side on to get more power under the ball rather than straight wise
The "66 meter" one is unfortunately not 66m but 61m long the broadcasters made an error on that one, The world record is that old Wales kick by Paul Thorburn 64.2m
@@RobReacts1 They had a further 6m on for the distance to the touchline, but I agree, 6m is a bit excessive. Pythageros might have a few words on that estimation.
The reason people go for the try instead of only penalty kicks or drop goals is because you get bonus points for tries and not just for getting the win.
@@RobReacts1 to be honest one or two in a game - its normal. but those 5 (and im south african), just kinda showed a glaring lack of game play. its a bit of a crappy way to win hahaha.
If rugby were a kicking game you'd be watching soccer. Unlike soccer you don't always convert a goal from right in front of the posts. You have to convert from the place of the try i.e. corner. That is why you run from the side and not straight. Drop kicks, especially into touch, are risky if you get penalized for kicking out on the full.
to put Paul Thorburn's kick into perspective, you need to know that he was an amateur, with a full time job, so only trained for a few hours a week, and that they didn't use a 'T'. kickers had to make a small hole, with the heel of the boot, and stand the ball in it. this made both long and accurate kicking, far more difficult. it also makes a straighter run-up impossible, as it needs the foot to be able to get under the ball. the round shape of a football makes this possible. nowadays, kickers use a 'T'. this holds the ball up from the ground, so kickers can get the foot under it. you noticed this with the final kicker. he hit the ball on the end point, following through along the length of the ball.
I find Rugby balls more user friendly than Aussie Rules balls. IIRC neither sport has completely fixed ball dimensions, just fixed narrow parameters (say withing a few mm) so there are subtle shape differences between manufacturers. Those parameters (by code laws or manufacture accuracy) would have been looser in the past and it was only the late 80's that Rugby Union and League dropped the Leather Balls for the Synthetic Balls. Before that they weren't much different from an Aussie Rules ball. If left without options, you could easily play any of those codes with the others codes ball. Gilbert is the most commonly used Ball of Rugby Union, Steeden is the most common in Rugby League. While I believe Burley is the most commonly use in Aussie Rules bar the AFL who use Sherrin. I find Burleys and Sherrins quite different in foot feel though they are of the same quality. Sherrins feel pointier while Burleys feel a bit rounder at the apex, the latter remind me a bit of the old leather rugby balls. They're more generous to a variety of kicking styles and are almost as easy as modern Rugby Balls in executing the Topedo kick. Burleys are like a throw back to when Aussie Rules used to exploit a variety of kicks which you don't see any more such as the Drop Kick, Stab Pass, Flat Punt etc yet Drop Punts can sometimes "float". The Sherrin on the other hand seems to either have refined it's shape or has always been a Drop Punt friendly ball and little else. Granted it's probably a matter of technique and body mechanics, yet the longest Kicks I've done have all been Place Kicks with Rugby and Aussie Rules balls. Probably a matter of eliminating the massive variable of the drop of the ball onto the foot which is where so much goes wrong. So I can just focus on the rest. I find place kicking akin to Teeing off in Golf, trying to marry power and accuracy.
High altitude also plays a factor in these massive kicks, good example is this one ruclips.net/video/GeuDxgPrhd8/видео.html He's a good kicker, can do it consistently from 40 or so metres, but was able to do that when the air was thinner
these kind of kicks go over probably something like 1 in 10 times or so, probably just not worth the gamble. also not every team has a good long range kicker
It’s the variables , the angle , the wind , your stamina the lighting , the temperature, it all affects how the fall travels and you don’t always connect the ball on the sweet spot .
You forgot altitude :)
That 66m 'child's play' kick and the first kick of the video, the drop kick, was by the same player, Francois Steyn. He is a known 'giant' kicker. The reason the commentators were so shocked the first video, drop kick went over was because when he kicked it, being a drop goal attempt was the last thing on their mind. Generally a long drop kick is probably harder to aim and score then a conversion.
Hey Rob. Enjoying your channel! With regards to your question "Why don't they use the player who is clearly gifted in terms of kicking more, to score points?" The answer comes down to tactics: If the opposition knows that you're going to go for the drop kick the whole time, they'll align their defence to make it very hard for the drop to work under massive pressure. Naas Botha was the king of the drop, and was hated for it because he could win games by himself under massive pressure. So at a crunch RWC game, (South Africa vs England) Springbok coach Nick Mallet figures "They're not going to suspect a drop kick game." And boom: Jannie de Beer sets a world record. England were, A: not suspecting that anyone would even think of basing a game around it and B: did not adjust their defensive game to it after even the third drop, they were that stunned. The Boks had worked to give de Beer the space and TIME to land the drops. And there's the rub: at Test match level you have to be tactically out of your mind to think you're going to attempt a drop unless it's 80% on, at least. The amount of space and time (albeit split second) required to set it up is way smaller, tighter and faster than it looks on screen. Check this out. It's legend: ruclips.net/video/JMFhnFp7re8/видео.html&ab_channel=WorldRugby
Rob, in rugby you can’t score from kicking directly out of hand, but in Aussie rules that’s the only way you score. In rugby it’s either a place kick, or a drop kick. A drop kick is when you drop the ball onto the ground and then kick it. This is bloody hard to do - timing, ball position etc needs to be perfect. This makes that massive drop kick by Frans Steyn all the more remarkable.
Probably worth pointing out that Australian football used to use drop kicks and place kicks, but when boots changed from lace-ups to modern style in the 70s, drop punts became easier and are a much more reliable passing kick. Australian footballs also used to be much harder than they are now, much like soccer balls.
@@HorseWithNoUsername interesting!
You can still use drop kicks.
@@Marcelo-hf5xl how often are they used?
@@grahamarthur barely ever but there still legal so it's not the only way you score
In earlier times they place-kicked straight on for a number of reasons. The boots were mostly square toed, the grounds were often uneven and muddier and the balls heavier when wet, and kicking tees were not allowed (you dug a hole with your heel) etc. So the simple, straight action was the standard. I remember reading an article by a player from the 1950s who said he actually kept the toe of his kicking boot rough with sandpaper to help the control. But the round-the-corner style came in as the grounds and balls got more consistent and reliable, and the use of kicking tees and round-toe boots gave a bigger sweet-spot for control and accuracy. The power was still there because round-the-corner gives a longer arc as you swing your leg. The Barrett goal at 10:20 has a straighter run-up than usual these days, but the ball sitting up on the tee makes all the difference.
Remember that in Australian Rules they punt for goal on the run, so it's a different sort of kicking dynamic altogether, with a different ball. They used to drop kick more often and even place kick, going way back, but neither has been a part of the game for decades.
The main reason teams don't kick for points more often is because of rule changes designed to encourage tries. In particular, in pretty much all rugby competitions I'm aware of, you get four points for a win, and a bonus point for scoring four tries. In last season's Pro14, Leinster and Ulster had the same won-lost record, but Leinster won the conference and qualified for the final because they scored more bonus points. So if you get a penalty in kickable range, more often than not you kick for the corner and hope to get a try from the lineout and resulting maul.
Yes I do see people kick into the corner for territory more often.
Longest kick in rugby according to the World Rugby Museum:
"Ernie Cooper who, at the age of 17, kicked an 81-yard penalty goal to tie a match for his team, Bridlington School 1st XV, in the last minute against an Army XV on 19th January 1944. He took the kick from five yards in from the touchline and one yard outside his own 25-yard line. "
What’s that in English measurement ??
LOL It is in 1944 English measurement. But it's 74m
@@SafferPOV okay cheers haha
Leinster stadium is a club stadium. You see a lot of them in the English Premiership, Pro14 and Top14 too
Check out John Williams on th 1969 B&I Lions Tour. Drop kick from his own half with a leather ball (like Thorburn vs Scotland). The other kicks were with lighter (I played with them, they do not absorb water for your viewers!) multiplex balls, which were initially made by Mitre. Kicks are equally difficult, due to reason and required outcome.
I once saw a charity match at Newcastle Falcons. The goal kickers were Peter Beardsley and Paul Gascoigne (they came on like in American Football). Between them they kicked 15 conversions out of 16, some from pretty wide out. So if you can kick one type of ball you can kick the other.
Always need to consider altitude for example easier to kick further in South Africas high veldt. Weather......wind direction, air moisture. That's kick over 60 in NZ is a big achievement.
Nice, the video you were referring to near the beginning is Jannie de Beer's 5 drop goals against England in the 99 World Cup.
Jonny Wilkinson was that drop goal specialist. They just have to be very good, because if you miss you normally lose a lot of territory
Yea I hear you!
I was about to comment this yes not just a amazing boot but a reliable one too and he was utilised great player
Many drop goal attempts nowadays happens when teams are on penalty advantage and they have nothing to lose
The one that is most impressive is Paul Thorburn. I started playing rugby as a boy in 1986, and though schoolboy rugby, rather than 5 Nations, the balls were not dissimilar then. They got far heavier when wet - glorified pigs bladders, and there were no kicking tees then - you raised a divot with the studs on your heel.
RDS arena the stadium you mentioned looked strange,thats because its an old showjumping Arena and leinster rugby is just a tenant there. RDS the owners in conjunction with leinster rugby want to redevelop the stand ,but between planning ,waiting for government grants and of course covid ,they have not been able to strat the redevelopment.
Andrew Forde does great compilations, without the irritating music too
Well he does sometime out music on his videos. But don't worry I've had words with him on insta about it 😂
@@RobReacts1 Good. I would rather listen to the commentators describing the action than some arbitrarily chosen music
I think drop kicks and penalty kicks, though they can be done are rare probably due to pressure and other variable.
Like Elliot Daley, he still plays for England but rarely kicks, he has the distance but with distance comes less accuracy. If you're not 100% confident or the wind is quite strong (especially as the ball is going up high) then you might want to just kick for territory or something.
Owen Farrell is a specialist for dead ball kicks and most of the time will take them, but doesn't go further than from the halfway line from what I've seen.
Rugby players can kick it just as far but if we want a drop goal we need to drop kick it, so letting the ball hit the ground as we kick it simultaneously is difficult sometimes
Frans Steyn, 2 time RWC winner most featured on this video
So maybe he is the most 'specialist' out of all of them
@@RobReacts1 the strange thing is that he is only a backup kicker for the Springboks, Pollard is the main kicker.
@@boerinbeton7052 Frans has never been a consistently accurate kicker although he has been very consistent for the Cheetahs this year
@@RobReacts1 The kicker is normally the most consistent and accurate kicker from about 45m in. The long kicks come out when the game is tight and are often Hail Mary attempts to try and gain an lead
Almost all of the top teams have at least 1 "kicker" on the team for pinpoint accuracy and distance, and they usually slot in at fullback. The reason why it's not normally done is because all of those kicks you saw from the ground were penalties - where that's teh location of the penalty, so it's not always at those spots where people will be taking the kicks from. Also, to your question about which is more difficult - drop goals by far (the kicks from teh hands) because the ball has to hit the ground before you can kick it and it's also during the usual running of the game with other players doing their damndest to stop you.
Rob, for a while Rugby went through a spell of teams just scoring from kicking as it was easier. The process of kick,kick,kick was pretty boring. World rugby introduced a rule to encourage attacking play, so that if a team could score 4 or more try's then they would be awarded an additional point in their league standing. e.g. 0 points for a loss, 2 points for a draw, 4 points for a win, and an additional point for 4+ try's. Interestingly even if you lost but still got 4+ try's you also got the additional point. It's made the game so much more diverse and exciting.
Mate - Pierre Villepreux kicked a 70 metre penalty at Athletic Park in Wellington, New Zealand during the France - NZ test.
The Rugby post are 5.5 m apart, and the crossbar is at least 3 m above ground.
The AFL posts are 6.4 m apart with (of course) no crossbar, so the Aussies do have a bigger target.
Agreed, though unless it's an open goal square, the Aussie Rules Goals are generally defended so certainly on a set shot from 50m+ the Aussie Rules player must clear the hands of tall defenders who can jump and reach above 3m. They also must kick beyond their mark the clear the defender standing the mark (who may also be able to jump and block 3m+). So low trajectory long kicks like the "Stab Pass" (a form of front footed drop kick) has become extinct.
Some 2021 kicks in SA:
Tiaan Swanepoel (61m but probably closer to 66m) - ruclips.net/video/l8u-EPYhTj4/видео.html
Frans Steyn (64m) - ruclips.net/video/QK55SvOO1SQ/видео.html
Curwin Bosch (61m) - ruclips.net/video/Mz6DCRvpFqw/видео.html
Note: all those kicks were in Johannesburg at about 1700m above sea level
Due to the shape of the ball the sweet spot would be hard to hit straight on.
Why don't they boot it over all of the time? A couple of reasons: 1. the reason they get a reaction is because they don't nail it that often, for every one of these videos showing a perfect kick there are 9 shit attempts. 2. If you miss you are handing over possession to the opposition - if you don't have the ball then you can't score. I suppose this would be an opportunity cost scenario. 3. Long rang kicks from ground are usually taken by a specialist distance kicker, the reason these distance kickers aren't used for every kick is they can give it a whack but aren't as consistent and accurate as the main kicker.
In AFL they kick out of hand (like a punt) so can travel much further, a rugby player could kick a ball out of hand 60+ metres, when it comes to drop goals and place kicks off tee the ball has to bounce/ have contact with ground so the area to strike the ball is so much harder and the angle is taken away to get the height and trajectory needed that's also why they stand side on to get more power under the ball rather than straight wise
The "66 meter" one is unfortunately not 66m but 61m long the broadcasters made an error on that one, The world record is that old Wales kick by Paul Thorburn 64.2m
Even then...pretty bloody long
@@RobReacts1 They had a further 6m on for the distance to the touchline, but I agree, 6m is a bit excessive. Pythageros might have a few words on that estimation.
Rugby Bricks has some great videos on kicking technique.
The long distance place kicks are rare. Frans Steyn the child's play kick has about a 50 to 60% strike rate. AFL kicks are from the hand?
That funny old stadium is the RDS in Dublin (my team Leinster play there). Funny how you compared it to the Fulham stadium who I also support hahah.
Is it pitch long because it was used for GAA Sports?
Leave the RDS alone! 😅
The reason people go for the try instead of only penalty kicks or drop goals is because you get bonus points for tries and not just for getting the win.
Ah yes that is true
A drop goal the ball has to touch the ground in Aussie Rules they punt the ball so it doesn’t touch the ground
Jannie De-Beer drop kicked 5 in the world cup against eng. in 1999 i think. still a world record.
Yes that's what I was remembering. That's what peaked my interest of why more don't kick over and over
@@RobReacts1 to be honest one or two in a game - its normal. but those 5 (and im south african), just kinda showed a glaring lack of game play. its a bit of a crappy way to win hahaha.
The crowd don't keep quiet in France!
If rugby were a kicking game you'd be watching soccer. Unlike soccer you don't always convert a goal from right in front of the posts. You have to convert from the place of the try i.e. corner. That is why you run from the side and not straight. Drop kicks, especially into touch, are risky if you get penalized for kicking out on the full.
to put Paul Thorburn's kick into perspective, you need to know that he was an amateur, with a full time job, so only trained for a few hours a week, and that they didn't use a 'T'. kickers had to make a small hole, with the heel of the boot, and stand the ball in it. this made both long and accurate kicking, far more difficult. it also makes a straighter run-up impossible, as it needs the foot to be able to get under the ball. the round shape of a football makes this possible. nowadays, kickers use a 'T'. this holds the ball up from the ground, so kickers can get the foot under it. you noticed this with the final kicker. he hit the ball on the end point, following through along the length of the ball.
And a leather ball and heavy boots as well.
@@CriesofFury oh, yes. how well i remember those boots lol
We used to say Paul Thorburn could score if he could see the posts. Even if he had to use binoculars.
You guys had one of the best exponents, Jonny Wilkinson.
Did Jonny have range or was he just really accurate?
I find Rugby balls more user friendly than Aussie Rules balls. IIRC neither sport has completely fixed ball dimensions, just fixed narrow parameters (say withing a few mm) so there are subtle shape differences between manufacturers. Those parameters (by code laws or manufacture accuracy) would have been looser in the past and it was only the late 80's that Rugby Union and League dropped the Leather Balls for the Synthetic Balls. Before that they weren't much different from an Aussie Rules ball. If left without options, you could easily play any of those codes with the others codes ball.
Gilbert is the most commonly used Ball of Rugby Union, Steeden is the most common in Rugby League. While I believe Burley is the most commonly use in Aussie Rules bar the AFL who use Sherrin.
I find Burleys and Sherrins quite different in foot feel though they are of the same quality. Sherrins feel pointier while Burleys feel a bit rounder at the apex, the latter remind me a bit of the old leather rugby balls. They're more generous to a variety of kicking styles and are almost as easy as modern Rugby Balls in executing the Topedo kick. Burleys are like a throw back to when Aussie Rules used to exploit a variety of kicks which you don't see any more such as the Drop Kick, Stab Pass, Flat Punt etc yet Drop Punts can sometimes "float". The Sherrin on the other hand seems to either have refined it's shape or has always been a Drop Punt friendly ball and little else.
Granted it's probably a matter of technique and body mechanics, yet the longest Kicks I've done have all been Place Kicks with Rugby and Aussie Rules balls. Probably a matter of eliminating the massive variable of the drop of the ball onto the foot which is where so much goes wrong. So I can just focus on the rest. I find place kicking akin to Teeing off in Golf, trying to marry power and accuracy.
High altitude also plays a factor in these massive kicks, good example is this one ruclips.net/video/GeuDxgPrhd8/видео.html
He's a good kicker, can do it consistently from 40 or so metres, but was able to do that when the air was thinner
You could react to the Richmond v West Coast played on the weened, It's been a while Rob
What's been a while? AFL videos?
@@RobReacts1 I mean AFL. thnx big fan
Sideways run up because you can get a longer swing with your leg
Yea maybe because you need the height as well
these kind of kicks go over probably something like 1 in 10 times or so, probably just not worth the gamble. also not every team has a good long range kicker
Yes of course. But if you do have that specialist then it would be fairly easy points right?!
@@RobReacts1 South African tried it in the RWC with Jannie de Beer drop kicking a record 5 drop goals, they still lost the RWC that year.
@@boerinbeton7052 south africa in any world cup really. Lions series too.
You know that Australia has rugby
I do, but their main code is league.
Off topic: I'm not a football fan but this is a good compilation
When Goalkeepers Get Bored - ruclips.net/video/xY2q3EYv7ds/видео.html