Almost time to take a drive to buy some seed from you. This time of year always drags as I want to get out and start planting. Enjoying the content you have been putting out as well.
On poor soils, the two things you can always count on are buckwheat in the late spring/summer period and winter rye from fall all the way into early spring. Both help build soils and both will be a benefit to wildlife, especially in areas with little in the way of commercial agriculture.
John, thanks once again for amazing content. Food plotting is not a one size fits all application. Sometimes it is absolutely necessary to disc to have success other years it is not. Thanks for being honest and not just trying to push an agenda.
@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 The typo is obviously unintentional but exceptionally accurate. I too try to explain to people their options and one of them is Hell. They can either repent of their sins and place faith in Jesus Christ or spend all eternity in Hell under the wrath of God. Have a great day John and thanks again. Jack
I have tried rye, wheat, triticale, and oats. The deer don't seem to touch any of it. I have a buddy who plants triticale about 2 miles away and it gets hammered. I usually would plant late August early September (in S.E. MN. ) It seems like it just grows to fast and the deer don't touch it. (out side of the following summer when using awnless varieties, the seed heads get destroyed a week after maturity) Our soil is fertile and the only thing I can think of is that it is getting planted to early. I am going to push my planting date back to mid-late September and see if there is any difference.
John...great information. One question I have, is there any advantage to improving our soil by working living rye into the ground as opposed to killing it and turning it over onto the ground? The only issue we have had with letting Rye grow until it reaches 3'-4' is it has been very difficult for us to spray and kill it effectively. thanks, Bob SWWI
I think it will vary from region to region. Obviously my number one goal in the fall is to feed and attract deer. But rye has so much more soil/OM attributes that I use a lot more of it than wheat.
Quick question. Not a part this subject but what is the top reasons for planting a food plot screen? Besides hiding yourself while going into a stand site. I’m debating planting one. Thanks!
Great information! Rye vs. Clover for attraction and protein health in spring/fall? I'm new to this and buying an ATV disc, so after a light discing and seeding, do you go back over the plot to with a drag or something to press the seed deeper or cover it more, or just leave as is?
We mow our rye and it’s usually in combination of rye and red clover from the previous fall. The red clover will get a light tilling mid to late July for the brassica planting.
I like some radishes wit rye if the soil is up to the task of radishes. I will not add a full blown brassica blend to cereal grain planting. Lower tonnage is the result
Notill has been around for years. It’s a great tool for folks who can do it the right way in their situation. But it’s not going to work well for everyone. Each piece of ground is different and so is everyone’s equipment/time/goals as well. Like I said , it’s a tool for some,not the absolute for everyone. We promote as little tillage as possible, but sometimes it’s needed to cover the seeds. Not everyone’s situation is the same. We will do what we can to work with everyone.
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The 3 strip system was a game changer for me. I’ll never change it. 👍🏻
Almost time to take a drive to buy some seed from you. This time of year always drags as I want to get out and start planting. Enjoying the content you have been putting out as well.
Thanks
On poor soils, the two things you can always count on are buckwheat in the late spring/summer period and winter rye from fall all the way into early spring. Both help build soils and both will be a benefit to wildlife, especially in areas with little in the way of commercial agriculture.
Full agree
Great video keepem coming
Great information! We like cereal rye here in the south as well.
Miricle planting all over the country
This info is spot on. I would like more info on the planting rye into buckwheat.
You can see rye into buckwheat and roll
It flat. You will need a bunch of rain to get the rye going and keep it going .
Thank you enjoy the content
John, thanks once again for amazing content.
Food plotting is not a one size fits all application. Sometimes it is absolutely necessary to disc to have success other years it is not.
Thanks for being honest and not just trying to push an agenda.
Just trying to hell folks understand the many options
@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 The typo is obviously unintentional but exceptionally accurate. I too try to explain to people their options and one of them is Hell. They can either repent of their sins and place faith in Jesus Christ or spend all eternity in Hell under the wrath of God.
Have a great day John and thanks again.
Jack
Can I cover broadcasted winter rye with straws instead drilling or disc?
Possibly
It may introduce more weed seed
@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Thanks
I have tried rye, wheat, triticale, and oats. The deer don't seem to touch any of it. I have a buddy who plants triticale about 2 miles away and it gets hammered. I usually would plant late August early September (in S.E. MN. ) It seems like it just grows to fast and the deer don't touch it. (out side of the following summer when using awnless varieties, the seed heads get destroyed a week after maturity) Our soil is fertile and the only thing I can think of is that it is getting planted to early. I am going to push my planting date back to mid-late September and see if there is any difference.
Oh for sure
Deer will quickly let you know what they like. Maybe add some diversity with clovers, radishes or brassicas.
John...great information. One question I have, is there any advantage to improving our soil by working living rye into the ground as opposed to killing it and turning it over onto the ground? The only issue we have had with letting Rye grow until it reaches 3'-4' is it has been very difficult for us to spray and kill it effectively.
thanks, Bob SWWI
As long as the roots are somewhat left alone, either way ( spray or light disc ) works fine
Rye vs winter wheat . For me they are about the same but deer like the wheat better for me
I think it will vary from region to region. Obviously my number one goal in the fall is to feed and attract deer. But rye has so much more soil/OM attributes that I use a lot more of it than wheat.
Quick question. Not a part this subject but what is the top reasons for planting a food plot screen? Besides hiding yourself while going into a stand site. I’m debating planting one. Thanks!
It works great to hide deer, your stands , plots and access
Just curious, why rye and not triticale? Doesn't triticale have better nutritional value?
Better tolerance to cold
Better root mass/ soil building quality
Tolerance to crap soils
Great information! Rye vs. Clover for attraction and protein health in spring/fall? I'm new to this and buying an ATV disc, so after a light discing and seeding, do you go back over the plot to with a drag or something to press the seed deeper or cover it more, or just leave as is?
With rye yes, I roll it in
After you mow your eye, do you till or disk it in?
We mow our rye and it’s usually in combination of rye and red clover from the previous fall. The red clover will get a light tilling mid to late July for the brassica planting.
After planting rye the last couple seasons I’ve noticed a pigweed problem. How would you deal with it?
We have a video on how we deal with it.
Basically grain/ grass crops in the spring and multiple 2-4 d plantings
Then do your fall crop
How much of this Rye do you plant per acre in August?
Depends if its straight rye
Or in a blend
Could be anywhere from 60 in a blend to 150 alone per acre
What's the low down on brassicas with rye? I know generally it is a no no. What about radishes? Same thing?
I like some radishes wit rye if the soil is up to the task of radishes.
I will not add a full blown brassica blend to cereal grain planting. Lower tonnage is the result
You're doing this all wrong. You need to call it forage buck greens or some other catchy name, and charge double or triple. Good video John.
Lol
No, sorry Tom, we don’t do that.
Thanks
Means a lot.
How much hate mail and threats do you get from these no-till crazies? I've tried over and over to explain its not ideal in sandy soil... deaf ears.
Notill has been around for years. It’s a great tool for folks who can do it the right way in their situation.
But it’s not going to work well for everyone. Each piece of ground is different and so is everyone’s equipment/time/goals as well.
Like I said , it’s a tool for some,not the absolute for everyone. We promote as little tillage as possible, but sometimes it’s needed to cover the seeds.
Not everyone’s situation is the same. We will do what we can to work with everyone.