Mahidevran Argues With Hurrem | Magnificent Century
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2022
- Mahidevran Argues With Hurrem "KNOW YOUR PLACE MAHIDEVRAN"
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At the age of 26, when he ascended to the throne, Sultan Suleiman aimed to build an empire more powerful than Alexander the Great and to render the Ottomans invincible. Throughout his 46-year reign, he became the greatest warrior and ruler of both East and West.
The young Suleiman received news of his succession to the throne during a hunting party in 1520. Unaware that he would be ruling a reign beyond his dreams, he left behind his wife son and took to the road with his close friend and companion Pargali Ibrahim to reach the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul. As they started their journey overland, an Ottoman ship set sail from Crimea in the Black Sea, bringing female slaves as gifts for the Ottoman palace… On this ship was Alexandra La Rossa, the daughter of a Ukrainian Orthodox minister, taken away from her family and sold to the Crimean palace. She had no idea that she would become Hurrem, wife of Sultan Suleiman and mother of princes, ruling the empire with him through bloodshed and intrigue.
As Sultan Suleiman conquered the world, his great passion for Hurrem would clash with his love for and trust in his closest friend and advisor, Grand Vizier Pargali Ibrahim, all set against the backdrop of the tension between Christian Europe and the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century.
Cast: Halit Ergenç, Nebahat Çehre, Meryem Uzerli, Okan Yalabık, Nur Aysan, Selma Ergeç, Sema Keçik, Filiz Ahmet, Selim Bayraktar, Selen Öztürk, Nihan Büyükağaç, Burcu Tuna, Merve Oflaz, Arif Erkin, Ali Uyandıran, Alp Öyken, Murat Tüzün, Doğan Turan, Gökhan Çelebi, Yüksel Ünal.
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the man who plays Suleiman was made for this role! His every movement and gesture are just what you would think a Sultan would be! Hes amazing ❤
Yes
Yes indeed, he's also a great singer.
Agreed
@@lovelydove8770 that's too much! He needs to chill. Thank gosh he's married, too much awesomeness from one man 😂
Now excuse me while I go find some evidence of his singing.
He's like a big teddy bear! Bet he gives amazing hugs! I'd want him to be my uncle! 🥺🥰 Cause my dad's pretty dang awesome 🤭
Halit Ergenç
The one time valide defends hurrem 😂
Actually it happened twice 😅😅
@@kamuii82when ?
Yeah
@@MegatAfzan if i remember right there was also a time where hurrem's children had been requested to be temporarily taken to hatice's palace and if i remember right that had been order by valide
The look on Valide Sultana’s face at 3:49 was giving Mahidevran you got out in your place also she took “that’s my girl” to a whole different level
I love Hurrem's face whe valide talk back to Mahidevran 😂
"... Did she just agree with me ? Wow"
Fr😂😂
Valide always put hurrem in her place and severely punished her too...but never did the same to Mahidevran..even after this Episode..Learning mahidevran true intentions and face
I don’t think Mahi realized any chance of getting back in SS good graces was gone when she tried to poison Hurrem while she was pregnant. She had no leverage after that aside from being the mother of Mustafa. After it became clear that Hurrem was the one SS loved, she should’ve just focus on getting her son in power…training him, advising him and gaining support for him wherever she could.
For me he never like her he wait a pretext to throw her out of his favor and she give him the pretext he need ( even if it was horrible to poison food to a Hurrem pregnant) as he know that if she had doubt that one day he will kill Mustafa she will try to kill him, but Hurrem who know that he can strangled her sons didn't give up loyalty to him because of her stockolm Syndrom. The rest of you comment agreed even if when she leave with Mustafa she became more like this but it was more slowly ( like first give up her love to Suleiman who was the right decision). Just like Hurrem she became more lucide ( even if Hurrem was fare more smart in intrigue of Court) and wise in season 4.
Suleiman himself points this out to her in the first season, calling out that, regardless of her desires, she sent poison to his table-an act that could've resulted in damage to his own person and certainly almost killed one of his children before he had the chance to meet them. It's really not possible for him to look at her the same way after that (understandably!).
I agree 100% once she sent poison to his table he lost all interest in her. Not to mention she didn't know if he would eat the dessert too, which would've poisoned him as well. Mahidevran didn't think she let her emotions get the best of her.
Mahidrevan was delusional and at times deranged.
Look at Mahidevran 's audacity manhandling hurrem who is now queen consort...still valide didn't scold Mahidevran enough
Mahidevran is so quick to blame hurrem for all her problems!
The biggest mistake the producers and director of this show made was undervaluing and misinterpreting the status of Hurrem after she gets married to Suleiman! She's a queen ya'll know and they have the audacity to show Mahi - a mere concubine - challenge the queen like a mad bull. Before Sul took Hurrem as his legal wife, it was acceptable to show Mahi humiliating the other but not after the marriage! She'd be chopped off, for sure.
Still, Mahidevran is the mother of the firstborn. Basically, she doesn't outrank Hürrem, but she can't be punished too harshly because she isn't a nobody. A real life relatively comparable example of this was Kösem & Mahfiruz's fight which resumed in the latter being banished to the old palace (she was the mother of Osman). Execution is a big no no, unless she did something truly unforgivable like betraying the sultan himself. Basically, she is abusing the leniency that she is given with her status -though Hürrem outranks her both by rank and because she has more sons-.
@@imane5819Technically Hurrem does outrank Mahidevran. Hurrem is the legal wife of a sultan. She’s a literal queen of an empire. Mahidevran is a slave. Being the mother of the first born prince doesn’t make her outrank Hurrem in the Ottoman Empire because all sons have an equal right to inherit the throne, regardless of whether or not they were the first born.
@@lysie9524 that's what i said. Mahidevran is still important though.
@imane5819 She is important until she insults or betrays her ruler.
Look at their history. Only the Sultan has any right to have unchallenged power.
It is an insult for any concubine to treat his wife in such a manner. ESPECIALLY since until then, there was no Haseki Sultan, and certainly no slaves freed and married, then called a sultan.
In history, Valide Hafsa Sultan was the first to be allowed the use of Sultan by her son.
Sharing power wasn't allowed.
IF Mahidevran had, in real life, done that, she would have been executed. Her son would have been advised by his Lala and others appointed to him. Especially if he was already sent to his province.
Everyone, friends and enemies, knew of the changes in the kingdom. Any insult or offences overlooked would be a show of weakness. Heads would have rolled.
The show really downplayed the power Haseki Hurrem Sultan held. Even in the show, he said to his mother and others that an insult to his legally wedded wife was an insult to himself.
So in the end, Mahidevran is important as a mother to her son who is now a contender for the throne. If she is like that, what has she taught her son?
She is not truly necessary for the survival of the Dynasty. Her grown son can receive guidance from others.
There is one thing I think Mahidevran should be credited for but most of us overlook. She's is a bold convinced lier and if she's challenged with the truth, turns violent. She's actually very good at it.
couldn't said it better
😂😂 Yep as well as a lunatic who was obsessed with jewelery & power.. she was probably the first ever "gold digger" 🤣🤣
Yeah tell me how Will you act to the person who " stole" the heart of your heart?
@@joanna582 But he was never ever her heart. She was just one of his concubines no love involved. The unwritten contract was give birth to a son, bring him up well and if he lives, you'll live in lap of luxury.
@@joanna582 Ask Gulfem.. Mahideveran stole Sulieman from her.. & Mahideveran wanted jewels & power not love..
*I swear, if Mahidevran was smart and ambitious, she would go far, making her battle against Hurrem more entertaining and intense.*
What’s Mahidevran’s fault ?
@@SarafNawar-bk2ss Whining about everything like a child. Even Hatice, who's younger than Mahi, was much more adult-like before her jealousy and hatred overtook the poor princess. Not to mention Mihrimah, who may have been an entitled brat, even as a toddler knew how to act properly without throwing tantrums.
mahidevran terlalu amarah...rngga bisa menahan emosi...klo mahidevran bisa ikhlas dan sabar hurrem pasti kalah
Mahidevran forgets that hurrem sultan outranks her
Mahidevran suppose to bow to Hurrem right? But in this series, she never bows to Hurrem after Hurrem becomes Sultan's legal wife. Or did I miss it?
@@sansannstory yes mahidevran was supposed to bow to Hurrem sultan but series didn't show that. In real life, mahidevran left before hurrem sultan marries Suleiman and Suleiman creates the haseki sultan title.for the first time and give it to Hurrem sultana, placing her second to valide sultan and above every other hatun and sultana.. they never met again but if they did, she had to bow, because hurrem sultan was haseki sultan and member of dynasty but mahidevran was a hatun mother of prince.
@@user-gp3xf7jp9n The show misused the title "hatun", it wasn't used to describe concubines it was a title for the important women in the harem. It was then replaced by Sultan. So powerful women existed before the tile of "Sultan"
@@hishighnessessaeed7720 I know
No one in this series is following protocol. After the sultan marries Hurrem and she becomes his legal wife, everyone except the valide should bow to her. The sultans sisters should not have been able to boss Hurrem around. And historically, the haseki rank was created by Suliman for Hurrem.
Aybige is a princess and Mahidevran is a slave, so how it is possible for her to give her ORDERS?
My thoughts exactlly, she constantly forgets the extict of her so called power
Mahidevran als fake haseki here in the show should actually stand right next to valide, before true born sultana. The scene doesn't make any sense at all
Mahidevran always thought that she is above everyone else. She never knows her place well.
I am a hurrem Stan, don’t get me wrong but mahidevran was a princess before marrying the sultan. Mahidevran was born in 1498/1500 in a Temruk family. She was the daughter of the 16th-century Kabarday Prince and his wife Crimean princess who was her Mother.
But it still doesn’t give her a right to order her around ik that. I am just saying she isn’t and wasn’t ever a slave 💀
Mahidveran hatun can speak, raise her voice and take all her of anger out on Hurrem and nobody can tell her anything, she even gave a glare to Valide that she turned her head away unwilling to make eye contact with Mahidveran . In this season, she was very powerful that even Suleyman couldnt punish her but wasn't intelligent enough to use that power. She lost her power and was expelled next to Mustafa though.
Mahidveran would have been a very great rival to Hurrem in the 4th season had they used her as an "antagonist" , yet they somehow preferred to bring a 4th sister of Suleyman to take that role which in my opinion was a failed attempt at repeating Meryem/Deniz rivalry.
The way Hurrem just walks away after is so funny
Bravo hafsa, her eyes opened, now she supports hurrem sultan as she should have from the begin
Shortly before they were closed again.
In real life or real history she was best friend with sulaemen and hurrem sultan
@@michaeltomy186 I know
@@michaeltomy186 We all know
@@michaeltomy186Yup. Valide Hafsa Sultan had a cordial relationship with Hurrem in real life.
the ugly laugh that came out of my face when Valide rolled her eyes at Mahidevran's bad behavior
The actress who played the role of mahidevran is drop dead gorgeous
Mahidevran's character makes absolutely no sense in historic terms. She was a slave and died a slave. Hurrem was the imperial consort, second only to the queen mother Hafsa. Even Aybige, as a member of Suleiman's family, was above Mahidevran amd thus wouldn't have received orders from her. How dare Mahidevran speak to Aybige like she does throughout this whole storyline of the show?
IRL The queen mother was dead by the time Hurrem got married and elevated to empress consort.
Mahidevran would have been freed upon the death of Suleiman because she bore him a child.
@graceneilitz76i61 I don't think giving the Sultan a child was reason to be freed.
@@Jorindeify
It was customary for the mothers of the Sultan’s children to be freed upon the Sultan’s death.
I don’t know why it was customary, but it was.
Shame that Hurrem never got to slap Mahidevran
Well said haseki sultan to mahidevran hatun
I will never understand why Valide liked Mahidevran so much and always stood by her over Hurrem even when she was wrong. So what if she gave birth to a future Sultan? If history is anything to go by, the first born doesn't always sit on the throne. Something terrible could happen, which is why more sons were needed...even if was tradition to kill them (smh I dont get that either). Valide accused Hurrem of being arrogant, manipulative, and power hungry, but she mostly did it out of survival and vengeance against those who had wronged her first. Mahidevran tops Hurrem in every one of those ways, but she has no reason whatsoever. Her position was solid. If she had ignored Hurrem or even been kind to her, Suleyman would still pay attention to her. But no. She's petty, jealous, arrogant, dishonest, violent, and unpredictable...yet somehow, Valide always thought protecting her was the safer choice.
That snub he gave mahidevran chilled me
7:11 wtf is wrong with ibrahim's face😂
lmao at hurrem 😂😂😂 6:02
Her mimics is amazing. Love Hurrem
Is there translation in English?
He has 99 problems and they are all, ladies.
How can Hatice and Valide favor Mahidevran after this?? The show doesn't make sense like at all
The show wanted to keep the drama going. I have no idea how Mahidevran was ever favored, all she does is cry and look sad or depressed.
I love how the Validé Sultan put Mahidevran at her place and how she défend Hurrem.
Abigye is a Sultana by birth just as much as Hatice. Mahi is well out of line to tell her not to be there.
The writers wrote it incorrectly I cannot believe that she thought she could give orders to everybody else around her that she said and another episode she was a slave yet she always was acting like she was Queen of the roost I think they did it just to be able to have a story cuz the majority of this some of it as accurate and a lot of it is not accurate
Mahidevran is like a little child in middle and high school drama
Lmao
Why in this clip everyone sounds like their voices are deep and slowed/reverbed? 😂😂😂
Oh thank goodness someone else thinks that too. I thought I may have had too much to drink while watching this. But yes I hear it too.
Que pena não está em português 😢não dá pra assistir 😢😢
Actually this scene (welcoming Suleyman) is pretty funny hah
I hope still the film Turkey is the best
This is why u speak all ur evil thoughts only in ur mind.....u never know who's listening
Mahidevran is beautiful but always unhappy and it makes her ugly.
So always being sad means being a bad person?
@@SarafNawar-bk2ss Ugly, not bad. Can't you read?
7:00 so sad he ordered the execution of Mustafa & his trusted brother/friend.. Ibrahim. :-( who really loved him
Bruh Ibrahim betrayed him
my problem with Mahidevran isn't her hatred for hurrem and suleyman is very justified she's dumb and petty causing trouble for her self solved by Ibrahim or valida or Mustafa
In here when suleyman was in coma she literally made everyone her enemy I mean if it wasn't for valida she would have left the palace long time ago even Ibrahim and Mustafa told her not to take far since the sultan hasn't died yet even if he died Mustafa and Ibrahim would have trust issues with her the most important women in the empire are her enemy 🤷♀️
She abused any kind of power she just had then lose it like a mother in law of aybice or her being in charge of the palace which Ibrahim helped her in keeping it twice but still messed up
She's lucky that Khadija was obsessed with Ibrahim and ready to blame anyone for the affair
Hafsa why are you looking so surprise? Your son was clearly a man who mistreat all his concubines ( Hurrem, Mahidevran,etc...). In fact it was very kind of Mahidevran to wait all this years that one day he will love her ( or at least repect her) in return ( as he never respect her, just see the way he "console" her when she make a falsebirth). She did the right reaction to rejoice that he might be leaving this world (yes I know I'm mean, but instead of Mahidevran from episode 4 I would have already planned the fall of this guy and if he's down I'll would have kicked him in stride), I wish that Hurrem would do that too ( she is clearly in Stockolm Syndrom and need help to that, I am not joking).
Hafsa want Mahidevran to be a pupet that why she favorised her instead of Hurrem but the moment she became lucid and began to mentally emancipate herself she rejected her (she no longer became a puppet) and began to favor Hurrem who suffered from a serious addiction to Suleiman. Hafsa is very hypocritical. That's why I think to the started she never liked Mahidevran as a person but as a pupet.
In this show Mahidevran has no personality, really, she is like a blank page. So Hafsa couldnt like her - there is nothing to like, even when we see "sweet" side of Mahidevran.
I don't know real Mahidevran, so I didnt mean to insult her, just show version.
Agreed. It's the way the aristocratic characters don't view anyone outside their own ranks as people.
@@nielubieinceli Don't worry the real Mahidevran was worse. From my point of view, it's easier to feel sorry for the real one because she doesn't have the intellect to understand changes in dynastic rules and act accordingly which led directly to Mustapha's execution.
@@nielubieinceli The real Mahidevran was far better and an incredible smart women and very independant ( in fact all the females characters historical in MC were far better and interesting as they diabolize a lot womens but you know that :) ).
On the show I view Mahidevran as first a women who was conditionned to be a pupet ( and no one really love her except Hatice first and Mustafa I don't count Gulsah XD and Ibrahim too as for me he see her as a pupet) even if she make humazing moment as she try to help Hatice with Ibrahim only for help her ( just like Hurrem try to take care of Hatice too). Then she fall in vengeance and do horrible things because of this toxical environement but slowly and sureley she emanciped herself for all this toxical relationship.
Hurrem arc in show was different , she suffered too, but as she is very clever and smart. She became one of the most powerul women by her own realizations but she became more addict to toxical relationship ( Suleiman as she always forgive him for all the horrible things he done to her , and is too much addict to him as she don't see a life without him when it is better for everyone if he leave this world to my view ).
@@hurremsultannss Yes true ( even if Hatice unlike her mother and siblings first really care for her sisters in law and vice versa even if we know what would happen between them.But even her to the start can be very snobbish as she is more focalised on the beauty of Hurrem when she meet her that the horrible condition Hurrem was as a slave when she begs them to free her, can make horrible words and don't understand that Mahidevran would be in vengeance for all the horrible things Suleiman do,etc...).
After all mahidevil did , she talks???
I know she ain't talking! 🥴😭😂
She has no concept of reality. Assuming everybody has forgotten all she did.
@Leo I think they know that she's cuckoo but want to keep on her right side because they think she will be the next valide
@Leo That's also true 🤣🤣🤣
I still dont know what mahi did in the first place to gain his resentment. They make mentions of a mistake before hurrem even came.
Too many women always leads to this result 🙄🙄
Men making all the wars and mysogynist pigs like you have no problem about it. When women fight , people will come with sexist comments . Get a life !!!
Lets not act as if there is not man in the center of everything
Hurrem is worst