Heavy Consequences For Mustafa And Mahidevran | Ottoman History
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2023
- Heavy Consequences For Mustafa And Mahidevran - HARSH LETTER FROM SULTAN SULEIMAN
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As Hurrem said, unfortunately Mustafa's mother is Mahdavran
Mustafa over played his hand and got burned. He was already under valued as the Saltan would have preferred Memhet to reign but he died. Instead of laying low and just going with the program he made the mistake of making too many powerplays.
As hurrem said ...pitty mustafa have mother like mahidevan ...always poison him ..😮
Yes alasly that dump women fighting hurrem for the reason of favrt of badisha while she's not able to train him well nor able to stop him
Suleiman exactly caught the point
From mahi,ibrahim to captain pasha n atmaca are on mustafas side because they knew that mustafa can be easily manipulated unlike mehmet
Mahi did a very bad parenting of provoking mustafas anger towards his father n hurrem
On the contrary hurrem made sure that her children obeyed their father first
Mustafas mistake was amassing allies and surrounding himself with people who treated him like he was the sultan and making every mistake he was told not to do making, and making decisions he knows are wrong then asking for forgiveness instead of permission because he thought he was untouchable
He never allied himself with anyone. People liked him that's it.
It didn't look good at all. Mustafa's head was turned by all that adulation and praise. I think Mustafa was rather weak and not all that intelligent in the way he was depicted in this show. He kept making "mistakes" starting even when he was still a child, and ran away to the army, then had to be rescued. As an adult he appeared to be taking the rule of the ruler into his own hands at times.
Mahdevil says there is no excuse for betrayal. Unless she or her arrogant son commits it. Then it is perfectly fine. 🙄🤦🏻♀️
Piggy Hurrem broke the law so many times and Suleyman forgave her. So Mahidevran was not the only one...
Suleyman survived during his father selim's reign who killed his sons because of his own cleverness and his mother , mustafa on the other hand was very overconfident and careless and mahidevran wasnt a strong mother like ayse hafsa sultan
I think he also knew because of what he went through with his father that his children with Hurrem would never be safe if Mustafa took the throne. Even if Mustafa didn't want to harm them, someone loyal to him would have.
How is he blaming others for the mistakes he keeps making? He was almost 40, how did he learn nothing? Not even from his own mistakes. He lied to his sultan to his face and broke law by getting married without permission 😅
Bcos mahidevran is his mother d woman is senseless nd blinded wit jeolousy she is nt advising him right
Mahidevil is his mother so he learned from her. Look at all she did. And had zero punishment for it.
What mistakes he made?
The Sultan is both a father and a ruler. Even the Sultan must submit to the throne, and Mustafa was a threat to the throne. As a father he mourned the death of his son and would never be the same because of it.
Mustafa is just like his mother, he never thinks before he makes decisions he just acts smh And to top it off he never takes accountability. He's wrong for getting married without the Sultans permission and instead of realizing this he wants to find out who betrayed him smh You betrayed yourself Mustafa and your Father Sultan Suleiman.
I wonder if mihrunisa actually loves mustafa or she just loves to be the wife of the "next" sultan and the mother of the "future" sultan
She truly loved Mustafa. He was her life.
Instead of blaming who leaked the news of betrayal.. couldn't he just be obedient?? Till je become sultan
26:45 both these ladies are biggest culprits for Mustafa downfall. Giving meaning less advice
Mustafa as a kid and later an adult really gets on my nerves🤬
Suleiman trusted and forgave mustafa many many countless times just because of the trust and affection he had for his son, his blood. However mustafa always overtakes Suleiman and threatens him indirectly that he is more powerful and intelligent than suleiman. Mustafa actually deserved his death but not for the reason he was shown to be executed for. He never betrayed suleiman there's no doubt in that. But it was his own oversmart and disobedient nature that resulted in his death.
I think his wife caused problems for him also, his mother and Ibrahim certainly did
@@JudyCollie Yes, sadly his mother and Ibrahim did him no favors.
@@sarahmclin2434he was too dependent on them..
Suleiman himself did these mistakes when he was a sehzade. He killed Mustafa because he couldn’t share his power
@@hamnayousaf5592 and why "should" he share his power? The throne is made only for one person and only one. If anyone dares to express his dreams or lays his eyes on the throne while the owner of the throne is still alive, it will be considered a rebellion without any doubt. Besides, fyi suleiman never was disobedient to his father unlike mustafa who always keeps overtaking him as if he is Suleiman's rival and more powerful and braver than him. Suleiman did mistakes, yes. But mistakes almost every Shehzade at one point makes. However, he was a very well behaved son and prince to his father which was mentioned quite a few times by mahidevran and valide sultan in the midst of some episodes.
An amazing historical series!! Beautiful Actors and excellent Direction!!
But Mustafa isn’t Suleyman’s first born. He’s the oldest to be alive…
Who's the name actor Mihrunnisa?
It was Huriciham who reported the marriage right?
Yes I believe so
I love the story of the ant,
only it never happened... it is a false fable
I am muslim from Indonesia I have never heard the story tale of the Ant in Namrod and Abraham prophets.
Their only story tale of the Ant in Sulaiman prophets.😊
Why WAS MUSTAFA WEARING SAME CAFTAN COAT
Yeah n fell in love so many times what about Suleiman
It was pigeon and lizard instead of ant and eagle
"How could you break tradition?" Wasn't that more or less what Suleyman's mother reproached her son with after he married Hurrem - a mere concubine? And wasn't it tradition NOT to have more than one son with one concubine? Yet Suleyman defied tradition time and again for Hurrem. Why couldn't he understand that Mustafa was IN LOVE with his wife and wanted to honor her by marrying her? Suleyman wrote beautiful love poems for Hurrem. Surely he must have understood that love overrules any tradition and rule someone invented centuries ago. Well, one cannot rewrite history. But it absolutely baffles me, why Suleyman had so little faith and understanding for the ruling of the heart.
Why Sulaiman hates Mustafa for getting married
Because it was tradition and rules that no shehzade can get married. However, actually they can marry as they tried to marry him with the princess of giray khan, aybige but it didn't happen. Actually they can marry but someone of their status like another princess. Not any mere concubine and some captain's daughter
Because he did not have his father's permission, no Prince can make his own decisions without the Sultans approval..
Get married without your father's approval. You will get your answer.
@@tasniaazima529in civilized world adult people marry on their own
@@nielubieinceli Not in Asia
Suleiman was worst father.
This is a lie😂 he told him from beginning the innocence would pass. It's between being a father and a sultan. And hurrem told mahidevran she wud be her son's downfall which she was.
@@onyinyechigloria146 wasn't hurry a reason for downfall for her own sons. Especially beyazid. She was the same as mahidevran just that with a bit of sense in her.
Mustafa could marry anyone he wanted. He fell in love with a noble woman. Not everyone is like Suleiman who got hitched to unknown whores of foreign lands.
Suleman was a sultan already while he got married with the great and honourable queen hurrem and Mustafa was a prince who can't decide anything by himself he had to obey sultan for everything
Daughter of priest ... if u are taking about Hurrem
Abducted and enslaved girls, forced into a foreign cultur and religion, used for a mans pleasure and breeding - let's not forget that part about the "unknown whores".
Show some respect, they were not whores. They were young girls kidnapped, taken, etc. from their home lands. Some where from every day backgrounds, some from wealthy families, etc. that were taken for the harem. In no way were they whores. So disgusting. SMH