I just scored a 420s for 20 bucks canadian off marketplace! it already has the i7 and 1600x900 display. Pretty stoked with the purchase but unfortunately the battery appears to be toast.
I own a T430s, I dont mind that much the unupgradable CPU, I do basic work on my laptop so the stock CPU is perfectly fine for me for at least the next 5 years. Since this laptop is inside my back pack all day, the weight trimmed s version is a better option for me.
I don't think it's as simple as either being better; they're both great. I use the S as my mobile laptop, the non S (quad core CPU upgrade) is typically docked, playing the role of "desktop". The bay battery is fairly key to me though, battery is otherwise not great. But the S is noticeably significantly lighter in my bag.
Im getting a lot of two t430s laptops for a good deal on ebay. I'm going to put ssds in both of them and sell them for a small profit. Seems like a really good laptop for every day tasks. But also because its thinner, its a bit better for travelling than the t430. But as you say, not a huge noticable difference. And personally I would recommend the x230 for the frequent traveller.. but maybe the t430s is a good compomise if you want that bigger display. The t430 seems more easy for mantinance and to replace parts of it. With the t430 you can replace the processor, so I think that gives it more longevity.
I am a bit of a Lenovo and Thinkpad collector ... recently I have learned that you can connect a modern GPU externally to older laptops or use google stadia !! whats old is new again
I own the T430s. Bought the i5 version with 8gb of RAM and a 256gb SSD, barely used in July 2012 for $450...a steal at the time. It had almost 3 years left on the warranty. At the time I would have bought the T430 if it was available. That said, the portability at the time meant a lot. I recently bought a used T470s i5 6300U with 20gb of RAM and a 256gb NVMe in perfect condition for $175. I love the weight and how slim it is. But I have to say that the T430s is as fast or faster than the T470s.
@@LaptopRetrospective Perhaps because the T430s has a mobile processor and the T470s has the lower-power ultrabook processor. Also, I don't run intensive programs...just Word, Publisher, Adobe Acrobat DC, Internet and streaming. The T430s is quite snappy and built like a tank. In almost 10 years of ownership, the only things I had to replace were the left hinge and the keyboard...all simple DIY jobs. The T430s is a much better notebook to watch streaming content on. Its 1600x900 screen is worlds brighter than the 1080p full HD screen on the T470s. Lenovo should be ashamed for equipping the T470s with such a dull panel. That said, it's very sharp. I picked up a minty-mint T430 for my cousin for $200, with 16gb of RAM and a 256gb SSD. It even came with the docking station. For the last three years it's on 16 hours a day without any issues.
@@reel.... I believe that you mean T430 and T430s? It all depends on your needs. If you do regular stuff like Office, Internet, lighter photoshop/video editing, both are great computers. Just make sure you have an SSD and at least 8gb of RAM. If you're a gamer, stay away from the T430 series I also have the newer (2017) Lenovo T470s. For everyday tasks, I barely notice a difference between the 430 twins and the T470s. Where you will notice a huge difference is the battery life. I barely get 90 minutes on the T430s and get almost 7 hours on the T470s. If you mostly work plugged in, no biggie. For the price difference right now on used, I would go for either the T470s, 460s and 480s.
I'd probably go for the T430 but the lightness of the T430s is appealing. I don't think Thunderbolt 1 is that much of a selling point in this day and age.
@@LaptopRetrospective I took inspiration from ThinkMods idea and designed and built HiRes audio adapter that fits into express card slot. Works pretty good but it pops out every time you insert headphones into it.
Using Google fu (like kung fu only for the internet) I found out that the following is applicable for the 430S: Mini DisplayPort (Mini DP / Thunderbolt™ combo port on i7 integrated model, switch via BIOS)
I've always used laptop as my main computer as I don't use them for work or school and have them at home. I usually take the batteries out and keep the unit plugged into an outlet. Any storage goes to a SSD or flash drive. The internet is better (and cheaper) than cable or PUSH technology as I prefer PULL tech to select what I desire. btw do you want an old COMPAQ M300 w/docking bay? Cheers
Hi Laurie. Thanks for your comment and explanation of your use case. Is that the Armada? I might be interested, shoot me an email. You can find it on the about page for the channel.
With ThinkPads, or at least ones from this era, there's no need to take the battery out because the battery utility (for Windows) lets you set when you want the battery to start charging (e.g., when the battery drops to 10%). You never know when electricity goes out, so good to have the battery in.
That's what the WWAN card is for :-D . The battery comment is more so you get a chance to save whatever you're working on (assuming you're not plugged into a UPS).
can i use a t430 battery to a t430s? mine’s with the s one and it has been acting up :/ i’ve had this laptop for years and the battery’s been draining fast and it also has been locking itself automatically:(
@@LaptopRetrospective I can find T430s drivers specifically for XP, even for XP64, on the official Lenovo drivers page for that device, linked from Thinkwiki. The Point to do that for me is simply that I managed to install Windows 98 alongside a current 64-bit version of Windows on ONE MACHINE, it's a miracle that it even starts :D
I genuinely don’t know why I am watching this. I own heavily modded T430 and used to own T430s. Still enjoying it!
Nostalgia? 😁 It's one of those situations where depending on your needs they are both solid choices.
Literally same here lol, except I still own both
I love this side-by-side comparison video on the the last generation of ThinkPads where the logo on the lid faces the right direction!
From my T430s
Open or closed, ThinkPads are solid.
Hi! I'm using Lenovo T430s the laptop is kinda good in shape and I've upgraded to Linux fedora. I've
Been loving it!!
Awesome!
I just scored a 420s for 20 bucks canadian off marketplace! it already has the i7 and 1600x900 display. Pretty stoked with the purchase but unfortunately the battery appears to be toast.
That's an amazing buy! Well done. Batteries can still be sourced but the s series are a little harder to find.
that sexy inside sticker on the T430s lmao
Haha, yeah. Came on the laptop, not my addition.
I own a T430s, I dont mind that much the unupgradable CPU, I do basic work on my laptop so the stock CPU is perfectly fine for me for at least the next 5 years. Since this laptop is inside my back pack all day, the weight trimmed s version is a better option for me.
Fair! Use case is everything.
I don't think it's as simple as either being better; they're both great. I use the S as my mobile laptop, the non S (quad core CPU upgrade) is typically docked, playing the role of "desktop". The bay battery is fairly key to me though, battery is otherwise not great. But the S is noticeably significantly lighter in my bag.
Great points! Thanks for sharing how you use these devices.
Im getting a lot of two t430s laptops for a good deal on ebay. I'm going to put ssds in both of them and sell them for a small profit. Seems like a really good laptop for every day tasks. But also because its thinner, its a bit better for travelling than the t430. But as you say, not a huge noticable difference. And personally I would recommend the x230 for the frequent traveller.. but maybe the t430s is a good compomise if you want that bigger display. The t430 seems more easy for mantinance and to replace parts of it. With the t430 you can replace the processor, so I think that gives it more longevity.
Totally agree with your summary.
I am a bit of a Lenovo and Thinkpad collector ... recently I have learned that you can connect a modern GPU externally to older laptops or use google stadia !! whats old is new again
Yep, lots of mods and accessories to breathe new life.
I own the T430s. Bought the i5 version with 8gb of RAM and a 256gb SSD, barely used in July 2012 for $450...a steal at the time. It had almost 3 years left on the warranty. At the time I would have bought the T430 if it was available.
That said, the portability at the time meant a lot. I recently bought a used T470s i5 6300U with 20gb of RAM and a 256gb NVMe in perfect condition for $175. I love the weight and how slim it is. But I have to say that the T430s is as fast or faster than the T470s.
Interesting. Given the specs of both that seems very strange.
@@LaptopRetrospective Perhaps because the T430s has a mobile processor and the T470s has the lower-power ultrabook processor. Also, I don't run intensive programs...just Word, Publisher, Adobe Acrobat DC, Internet and streaming.
The T430s is quite snappy and built like a tank. In almost 10 years of ownership, the only things I had to replace were the left hinge and the keyboard...all simple DIY jobs.
The T430s is a much better notebook to watch streaming content on. Its 1600x900 screen is worlds brighter than the 1080p full HD screen on the T470s. Lenovo should be ashamed for equipping the T470s with such a dull panel. That said, it's very sharp.
I picked up a minty-mint T430 for my cousin for $200, with 16gb of RAM and a 256gb SSD. It even came with the docking station. For the last three years it's on 16 hours a day without any issues.
@@hoppysport2872 which is better between t340 and t340s in your opinion? and is it worth it to buy these thinkpad in 2022?
@@reel.... I believe that you mean T430 and T430s? It all depends on your needs. If you do regular stuff like Office, Internet, lighter photoshop/video editing, both are great computers. Just make sure you have an SSD and at least 8gb of RAM. If you're a gamer, stay away from the T430 series
I also have the newer (2017) Lenovo T470s. For everyday tasks, I barely notice a difference between the 430 twins and the T470s. Where you will notice a huge difference is the battery life. I barely get 90 minutes on the T430s and get almost 7 hours on the T470s. If you mostly work plugged in, no biggie.
For the price difference right now on used, I would go for either the T470s, 460s and 480s.
Good advice here. ☝️
Lenovo ThinkPad 👍😍
You've come to the right place.
The moment you turned them around to show the battery, I was team S.
Ooohh it’s extended…well then maybe nm
Please feature W541 in a future video. Thanks.
If I ever get my hands on one I will. W series aren't common around here.
I'd probably go for the T430 but the lightness of the T430s is appealing. I don't think Thunderbolt 1 is that much of a selling point in this day and age.
Agreed on the TB1 port.
@@LaptopRetrospective I think even the expresscard slots on these laptops would be more useful, people have devised eGPU solutions that work with it.
Yep, I've discussed the Express Card egpu on the channel in a three episode series.
@@LaptopRetrospective Interesting, I'll have to check that out!
Both great machines, I'd be more partial to the T430
Lots to attract, no doubt!
You have made good comparison between this two laptops. I would like to ask can we put ThinkPad T430s battery into ThinkPad T430. Please confirm.
No, the batteries are not interchangeable.
Still waiting to be able to put a 4th drive in my T430. :)
Soon. 😉
II think its totally possible. One goes into 2.5” bay, second to DVD to 2.5” adapter, third to wwan slot and fourth to express card to nvme adapter.
Yep, that's what we are talking about. We are waiting for the ThinkMods EC adapter to be released.
@@LaptopRetrospective I took inspiration from ThinkMods idea and designed and built HiRes audio adapter that fits into express card slot. Works pretty good but it pops out every time you insert headphones into it.
Ah yeah, that would be fun. 😂
Picked Up A Thinkpad T430s today (i5) 8gb and 256gb SSD
Awesome, I hope it serves you well.
My t430s is complete different. It has a square power jack.
How about T430 vs T440P? In fact, I couldn´t find a T440P video in your channel.
If I remember right, I've done the T540p but yeah, not T440p. If I get both at the same time I'll definitely consider it.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks
I second this. Looking to either refurb a broken T440p or buy a T430, so that would be a great video to watch!
Noted. We will see what the future holds.
I find it hard to convey the thought that the T430s is a “black sheep”, when you have the T430u around...
Fair point. I feel the u is not common to the point of being forgotten, at least here anyway.
I have both
Nice!
When you say "thunderbolt" @3:17 do you mean mini display port? Kind of a newbie here, thought Thunderbolt was on Mac products.
Thunderbolt is Intel and has the same shape.
The thunderbolt 2 standard has the same shape as a mini display port.
Using Google fu (like kung fu only for the internet) I found out that the following is applicable for the 430S:
Mini DisplayPort (Mini DP / Thunderbolt™ combo port on i7 integrated model, switch via BIOS)
I've always used laptop as my main computer as I don't use them for work or school and have them at home. I usually take the batteries out and keep the unit plugged into an outlet. Any storage goes to a SSD or flash drive. The internet is better (and cheaper) than cable or PUSH technology as I prefer PULL tech to select what I desire. btw do you want an old COMPAQ M300 w/docking bay? Cheers
Hi Laurie. Thanks for your comment and explanation of your use case. Is that the Armada? I might be interested, shoot me an email. You can find it on the about page for the channel.
With ThinkPads, or at least ones from this era, there's no need to take the battery out because the battery utility (for Windows) lets you set when you want the battery to start charging (e.g., when the battery drops to 10%). You never know when electricity goes out, so good to have the battery in.
@@herrfaust2020 Good point, But if the electricity goes out the internet goes with it, unless you're doing some offline stuff, thanks for sharing
That's what the WWAN card is for :-D .
The battery comment is more so you get a chance to save whatever you're working on (assuming you're not plugged into a UPS).
can i use a t430 battery to a t430s? mine’s with the s one and it has been acting up :/ i’ve had this laptop for years and the battery’s been draining fast and it also has been locking itself automatically:(
Different types.
@@LaptopRetrospective thanks for responding, i really appreciate it! guess i’ll have to find the t430s one T^T
are any working win98 drivers for t430s existing?
Pretty sure Windows 98 was not the launch OS for this system.
@@LaptopRetrospective no, that was windows 7. but even xp and xp x64 drivers existing. no one tried win98 before i think^^
It isn't so much trying as not supported. The drivers it lists for XP aren't even specific to the machine. Not sure what the point would be. 😁
@@LaptopRetrospective I can find T430s drivers specifically for XP, even for XP64, on the official Lenovo drivers page for that device, linked from Thinkwiki.
The Point to do that for me is simply that I managed to install Windows 98 alongside a current 64-bit version of Windows on ONE MACHINE, it's a miracle that it even starts :D
Hi, could you upgrade the t430s with a SSD SATA mSATA 256GB?
The WWAN slot should be able to take one.
next x240 vs x250
Sorta did that at the start of the X250 video if I remember right. Those machines are crazy similar minus the CPUs and TrackPad.
very pog
Thanks, I have updated my internet dictionary to the latest version. :-D
Can you play in t430 if it was 16gb ram ?
Not sure I understand your question.
I saw his T430s video and bought one and now he says t430 is better. I gonna unsub this nonsense.
Can't tell if you're joking. 😬