"This place's location will remain a secret" BUT I will post a video about it, telling you all how great this place is and during that video where I show off these amazing trails, I'll tell you again that I can't share the location cause all you pesky bikers will come and ruin our trails. What the actual Poop! These trails are in Scotland and on open land, therefore accessible by all and shouldn't be "hidden". Hiding Trails, or being secretive about locations is elitist and frankly unnecessary by both riders/filmers/trail crew. If it's so secret, why film and share it online? Are you local to those trails? If not, why should you get more access than someone else? If it's SO secret, why is the opening scene filled with muddy puddles full of mtb lines?
I say in the intro that they aren’t secret but I don’t want to advertise the location. The trails are on privately owned land, with the permission of the owner, public liability insurance is also paid for by the trail builders. The only condition is that it didn’t become overwhelmed with too many people. I ride these trails because I found them myself, but I don’t want to be the guy who let everyone know about them, which may lead to them being banned/destroyed.
I regularly ride at these trails, and know many others in the area that do to. In the regional area I would say most people know about it, even non mountain bikers. There are many dog walkers/family groups/runners and multiple bike guiding/coaching providers (some who are not local) that use this woodland for a variety of uses. It's not really a secret! Private land/public liability insurance is common for trail building crews, that doesn't mean that riders can't ride on these trails. I just find it ironic that your so keen to publicise a video about trails which "shouldnt be overused" / should be kept a secret. which are trails that have been purposely built for mtb, yet your more than willing to share the location of many mountainous mtb routes throughout Scotland which will get much more damaged by a much smaller foot fall of riders? Wheres the logic ? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for sharing locations, but maybe some vlogged approach to how to not overuse trails, only ride in the correct conditions ie..avoid moorland in the wet etc etc might be useful.
@@remimcmurtry I ride my bike and film it, that’s my whole thing. If I share the location, It’s because the trails are well known already and/or, there is no harm to do so. Every now and then though, there are exceptions, this being one of them. I was asked specifically to not share the location by the locals after being told of the situation, which is understandable given my following on here. This is the only place I’ve not shared the location off on the channel, I didn’t think it would cause so much of a stir.
That was scary properly the scariest trail I seen you ride, how the hell can you talk riding thoughts trails? I hope you friend it OK I have broken a rib on a ride and it hurts like hell. Nice Video thanks
I completely know where this is and what there called and a lot of people have shared it all over social media including pro riders so I don’t see how this needs to be kept secret? Awesome video though and respect your decision not to mention it👍🏼
ruclips.net/video/dwbQ7PWZu6s/видео.html You're not alone in rating these as the best/steepest enduro trails in the UK! Tommy C rates them the same (vid above - keeping location secret) 👍🏼 Good riding, you make them look pretty easy! 👏🏼
The last trail stays to the right of the wall now and takes a much better line down. Yes the guys that make those trails are heroes. Hope to bump in to you again up there sometime plus there's a few other places you'd like too.
Dammit I wish I knew where this is, these trails are sick! Can't you at least tell us which part of Scotland we are looking at here, all while remaining vague enough? Borders, Cairngorms, or even North, Middle, South, etc... ? Hahaha!
Click bait title but won’t spill the beans! Now I’m looking at the vid like the CIA looking for Bin Laden, for and background clues and stuff. So far I’ve got that there’s a hill and there’s trees 😆😆😆. The game is afoot young Andrew. Nice vid once I find it I shall ride it.
I can see them in the distance every time I look out my kitchen window. Only a mater of time before I’ve gained the skills to go. Are they all red and black?
My local trails haven't been in ages as they where all really intimidating but that first trail you hit looked alright, going to head back up again and try find it and ride it
Kudos to the trail builders there - what a cracking job. They looked like an epic set of trails. And the Highlanders seemed more than up to the job too (both the bikes & riders).
Those trails look savage. Props for keeping it to yourself, weaker men than you would cave. You been burning the candle at both ends though dude? You look gubbed! Look after yourself :)
Cheers...... but also not cheers 😜 That’s just my face Matt, I’ve always got bags under my eyes, there’s a reason I do most of my intros wearing glasses😜
Well... talk about a tease!!!! I can understand why you don't want to mention where this is BUT....... you know that people who watch your Videos are very much into MTBing and are probably dying to know where this is hahahaha 🤣 These trails look amazing! Perhaps I (and others) may come across them ourselves one day!! Any hints though!?😉 🤣🤣
Andrew....truly epic riding skills there mate - the trails look amazing - keep it secret, us mortals would kill ourselves on them!! - keep it for the highland MTB gods that you all are! - big kahuna - thats all i can say! great video, hope Ben is shredding it again soon! cheers -im going to have to get out for a shred now after watching that :)
@@McTrailRider cool, look forward to the next time you kahuna's hit those amazing highlands trails - thanks for keeping the videos of the rides coming - and yes, i did hit the local trails after watching this one today! cheers
This hill is actually privately owned and these trails are made with permission, but only with the current circumstances. People travelling from other areas to ride here would very much jeopardise their future.
@@McTrailRider fair comment, just getting a little tired of certain riders building a feature in the public woods, (most of the time without permission) and then feeling they now own this particular trail.
@@Paulmac2011 I understand. The situation is fairly unique here where the trail builders even pay for public liability insurance each year. The land owner just didn’t want the place to become a destination and get busy. If it does he will no longer endorse the building of trails on his land.
Don't understand this build and keep it secret mentality. More trails accessible the better for everyone into the sport. Kind of childish if you ask me posting a video, then telling the viewers it's a secret.
There are legal, but that part of the problem, the land owner is cool with how things are just now, but don’t want people travelling from around the country to ride here.
Nice video Andrew, trails looked well good but can’t help think these trail builders are pure bell ends keeping trails this good secret, (not having a go at you in case your thinking that)
Lush trails! 👌🏼😁 Tell the guys at Deviate and whoever builds, manages and maintains whats built there that they're doing a Stirling job - puts a lot of official trail centers to shame! 👍🏼🤟🏼😁 Hopefully, one day, I'll find my way up there and manage to bag myself a local guide so I can experience it for myself!?! 🤞🏼😕😬
Of course that would be better, but I like to film my rides and people like to watch. If you can work out where they are from what’s in the video, then you already know the trails.
My ol shimano cable brakes wouldn't handle that anyways 🤣🤣😂super vid one of ur best yet👍👍👌
Don’t think they would either 😬 Thanks Denny
"This place's location will remain a secret" BUT I will post a video about it, telling you all how great this place is and during that video where I show off these amazing trails, I'll tell you again that I can't share the location cause all you pesky bikers will come and ruin our trails.
What the actual Poop! These trails are in Scotland and on open land, therefore accessible by all and shouldn't be "hidden". Hiding Trails, or being secretive about locations is elitist and frankly unnecessary by both riders/filmers/trail crew. If it's so secret, why film and share it online? Are you local to those trails? If not, why should you get more access than someone else? If it's SO secret, why is the opening scene filled with muddy puddles full of mtb lines?
I say in the intro that they aren’t secret but I don’t want to advertise the location.
The trails are on privately owned land, with the permission of the owner, public liability insurance is also paid for by the trail builders.
The only condition is that it didn’t become overwhelmed with too many people.
I ride these trails because I found them myself, but I don’t want to be the guy who let everyone know about them, which may lead to them being banned/destroyed.
I regularly ride at these trails, and know many others in the area that do to. In the regional area I would say most people know about it, even non mountain bikers. There are many dog walkers/family groups/runners and multiple bike guiding/coaching providers (some who are not local) that use this woodland for a variety of uses. It's not really a secret!
Private land/public liability insurance is common for trail building crews, that doesn't mean that riders can't ride on these trails.
I just find it ironic that your so keen to publicise a video about trails which "shouldnt be overused" / should be kept a secret. which are trails that have been purposely built for mtb, yet your more than willing to share the location of many mountainous mtb routes throughout Scotland which will get much more damaged by a much smaller foot fall of riders? Wheres the logic ?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for sharing locations, but maybe some vlogged approach to how to not overuse trails, only ride in the correct conditions ie..avoid moorland in the wet etc etc might be useful.
@@remimcmurtry I ride my bike and film it, that’s my whole thing.
If I share the location, It’s because the trails are well known already and/or, there is no harm to do so.
Every now and then though, there are exceptions, this being one of them.
I was asked specifically to not share the location by the locals after being told of the situation, which is understandable given my following on here.
This is the only place I’ve not shared the location off on the channel, I didn’t think it would cause so much of a stir.
Scotland has some great trails... 😎
It sure does
I never see him go like 2mph but when I do I know it’s damm steep 🙄. Great video 👍
Haha, that’s as slow as I could go 😜
"the intimidator" ! Steep as fook , looks mint
Steep indeed
That's a PRO thriller!! Fun to watch, like the commentary!! Holy moly! I respect your integrity re location!! Conservation is important. 👍⭐
Thanks Elena👍
Fantastic trails, super techy and steep, i'm trying to get my head around the steeper stuff at the moment, great riding & video 👍
Riding steep trails is tough as they are so committing. It’s all about confidence, which is hard to gain.
Outstanding riding in this one. Very impressive. Those trails look amazing. Keep up the good work bud.
Thanks Adam
I've not been here before although i live right next door. I'll have to try them as soon as I get my first enduro full sus :)
That was scary properly the scariest trail I seen you ride, how the hell can you talk riding thoughts trails? I hope you friend it OK I have broken a rib on a ride and it hurts like hell. Nice Video thanks
Steepest trails I’ve ridden fort a while right enough, but I’ve done tougher. Talking isn’t always easy😜
I think Ben is doing well 👍
As a trail builder I can appreciate all that work. They seem to be quite lengthy for Scottish standards too.
Excellent work indeed 👌
I love your videos dude, the best bike channel on RUclips for real biking. Keep.up the great work. Another fine example of great riding.
Thanks so much Sean 😊
I completely know where this is and what there called and a lot of people have shared it all over social media including pro riders so I don’t see how this needs to be kept secret? Awesome video though and respect your decision not to mention it👍🏼
I’m well aware, but two wrongs don’t make a right and all that👍
Brilliant footage. Did you mention how your buddy got on at hospital (I was making soup so not paying 100% attention)
He fractured a few ribs, just the usual advice of rest up, which I’m sure he won’t do 😜
A lot more swear words would of come out of my gob if that was me going down that steep track. Well controlled lol
😂 a few still managed to escape my mouth though 😜
Great video as always dude, some gnarly stuff! I'm gutted you didn't send that jump to the left, you had that for sure 🤙🤙
I totally could have got that jump! Will get it next time, now that I know what’s on the other side.
Thanks for the cool vid Andy, really fires my enthusiasm to get out and push my limits on the bike. Cheers mate.
That is the desired effect Kev 👍
The trails look superb! Great video, nice riding 👍🏻
Thanks buddy
They genuinely are amazing trails ! Like the BC Pemberton trails, steep, natural and tech ! great video .
I would love to sample those trails to compare 👍
Ace, you know it’s steep when it looks steep on a GoPro... outstanding
That is very true
I have been up there loads and I don't recognise some of those, need to explore more. Superb video as always!!
There’s a lot more than I first realised too, and most likely even more for me to discover 👍
Cool vide sick trails
Thanks buddy
I rode these trails a week ago before the world cup, unreal work they've done out there, so gnarly
Can someone DM me the location 🙈 promise not to spread the word🤙
Do you know where Dunkeld is?
Slough
Sorry, not going to say Graham.
The trails you were riding looked like ones from Mugdock
They’re my local trails but way outa my comfort zone 😬
There are couple on the hill that I don’t think I will ever do 😳
@@McTrailRider you rode them really well buddy 👊🏻😉
I can smell my break pads burning just watching , 🚴♂️🏴🚴♂️🏴👍👍
😂
ruclips.net/video/dwbQ7PWZu6s/видео.html
You're not alone in rating these as the best/steepest enduro trails in the UK! Tommy C rates them the same (vid above - keeping location secret) 👍🏼 Good riding, you make them look pretty easy! 👏🏼
Tommy done well, I wouldn’t manage any of the jumps I don’t think.
How intimidating were those trails!
Very, but there are even more full on ones on the hill 😬
I don't want to know where that trail is, I will end up dead. it intimidated even you! Nice to armchair watch though! Thanks for sharing :)
😂😂 fair play
The last trail stays to the right of the wall now and takes a much better line down. Yes the guys that make those trails are heroes. Hope to bump in to you again up there sometime plus there's a few other places you'd like too.
Will get the last trail right next time then 👍 cheers
This looks SOOO good, and that footage is Super nice to watch
Thanks guys, footage courtesy of the Hero 9👌
Have you ever thought about doing the trail on falkland hill in scotland? I live in the area but some of the jumps are for mental folk
Still to go there, but it’s on the list 👍
Nice vid. Added bonus seeing the Boxer dug 😁. Had a Boxer for 12 yrs so they always put a smile on my face when I see one stoating about.
That was a seriously nice dog! I’m guessing he is a cross breed of sorts as he was very big and had a full length trail.
@@McTrailRider They banned docking tails a few yrs back.
Dammit I wish I knew where this is, these trails are sick!
Can't you at least tell us which part of Scotland we are looking at here, all while remaining vague enough? Borders, Cairngorms, or even North, Middle, South, etc... ? Hahaha!
It’s in the best part of Scotland 😜
Yes seeing Mc trail rider in his element, wild riding with steeze, not sure i could ride that, so a good job it's secret my hurt myself.
😄 thanks Andy
Biking seems more natural to you than walking is to most people!
I’m not very good at many other things to be fair.
"Toughest shit I've ridden for a while"
Yep
I'd be in the bits box looking for those old 720mm bars!
Could be quite handy 😜
That is some of the sickest trails I have ever seen. Steep and narrow as fooooook :D
👌
The highlander with the 29s looked well suited on these trails. Nice riding mate
The Highlander did feel very good on these trails 👌
Click bait title but won’t spill the beans! Now I’m looking at the vid like the CIA looking for Bin Laden, for and background clues and stuff. So far I’ve got that there’s a hill and there’s trees 😆😆😆. The game is afoot young Andrew.
Nice vid once I find it I shall ride it.
😂😂 I left no trace 😜
@@McTrailRider your powers are strong.
Great stuff buddy 😉🚴🚴 enjoyed buddy 👌
Thanks Taffy
Hopefully get up next month be good to get a ride in
I’m sure you’ll be hitting all the trails that I was too scared too on this one 😄
Sick riding 🔥
Thanks dude
I can see them in the distance every time I look out my kitchen window. Only a mater of time before I’ve gained the skills to go. Are they all red and black?
Wouldn’t mind living where you do 👌 I would say that almost all of these trails are reds and blacks.
My local trails haven't been in ages as they where all really intimidating but that first trail you hit looked alright, going to head back up again and try find it and ride it
Nice! The final trail is a bit easier too 👍
What tyres do you run?
Michelin Wild Enduro’s
@@McTrailRider in what width?
@@finlaymceachan6460 2.4
@@McTrailRider cheers love the vids👍
Rocks, Roots, Steep off-camber descents, and Hero Dirt all in the same Damn place? Simply Epic! Great clip(as always). Speedy recovery to Ben. 👍
Yep, all on the one hill 👌
Great video, what’s your camera mounted to ?
The chin bar of my helmet
"Not taking the E bike is a win morally" so they are cheating 😂😂😂
Only because there was only one Ebike, total win if we all had them 👍
easy trails or hard trails as long as you enjoy it old bean
Absolutely 👍
Good timing. It absolutely smashed down last night.
This was a few weeks ago when the weather was far nicer than it currently is 😢
Kudos to the trail builders there - what a cracking job. They looked like an epic set of trails. And the Highlanders seemed more than up to the job too (both the bikes & riders).
Outstanding work indeed, the jump lines are next level too 👌
Definitely loving the bike on trails like these.
Incredible trails, so glad that I found your channel.
Thanks Spencer
Those trails look savage. Props for keeping it to yourself, weaker men than you would cave.
You been burning the candle at both ends though dude? You look gubbed! Look after yourself :)
Cheers...... but also not cheers 😜
That’s just my face Matt, I’ve always got bags under my eyes, there’s a reason I do most of my intros wearing glasses😜
@@McTrailRider 😅 my bad! Feel like a dick now 😂
I've certainly not got the skill to do these trails haha maybe one day 🤣 great video bud
Plenty of fun to be had on less demanding trails too Jamie 👌
Well... talk about a tease!!!! I can understand why you don't want to mention where this is BUT....... you know that people who watch your Videos are very much into MTBing and are probably dying to know where this is hahahaha 🤣 These trails look amazing! Perhaps I (and others) may come across them ourselves one day!! Any hints though!?😉 🤣🤣
Great video lovely trails 😎😎
Sorry about the teasing. If I can find them, you can too, I just don’t want to outright say.
My local trails but way above my skillset. Love your integrity. Another smashing video. Good to see you on the trails again!
Great to have as your local, even if it’s above your skillset currently.
The trails are crazy though.
That place looks potent mate, wish I knew where that was but fully understand (we have a few secret ones by us)
Thanks for understanding 👍
That steep one is bdsm for 4pots
That’s brilliant!😂
Andrew....truly epic riding skills there mate - the trails look amazing - keep it secret, us mortals would kill ourselves on them!! - keep it for the highland MTB gods that you all are! - big kahuna - thats all i can say! great video, hope Ben is shredding it again soon! cheers -im going to have to get out for a shred now after watching that :)
Thanks buddy, Ben just needed to rest, not much more he can do.
@@McTrailRider cool, look forward to the next time you kahuna's hit those amazing highlands trails - thanks for keeping the videos of the rides coming - and yes, i did hit the local trails after watching this one today! cheers
Good old gopro.....if it looks steep it really is! :D
Always hard to convert steepness on video. These were very steep indeed.
It almost felt like one of those simulators you go on lol
😂
Wow wow wow . Looks great and in the dry as well
Always much nicer to ride in the dry 👌
@@McTrailRider Thanks for posting such great riding videos. Keeps me motivated to ride in crappy weather
Hi Andrew, love your content, but don't agree with all this secret trail nonsense.
If its private land thats one thing, but this clearly is not.
Do you build yourself?
This hill is actually privately owned and these trails are made with permission, but only with the current circumstances.
People travelling from other areas to ride here would very much jeopardise their future.
@@McTrailRider fair comment, just getting a little tired of certain riders building a feature in the public woods, (most of the time without permission) and then feeling they now own this particular trail.
@@Paulmac2011 I understand. The situation is fairly unique here where the trail builders even pay for public liability insurance each year.
The land owner just didn’t want the place to become a destination and get busy.
If it does he will no longer endorse the building of trails on his land.
Whouaaa so good 🤩🤩🤩👍
Thanks buddy
wow what a trail !!!
Yep 👌
That’s steep 😳
Yep
Don't understand this build and keep it secret mentality. More trails accessible the better for everyone into the sport. Kind of childish if you ask me posting a video, then telling the viewers it's a secret.
Read my response to Paul further down. It’s not childish, it’s responsible.
@@McTrailRider fair enough. Just as well its not the norm. There would be no where to ride 😊
Dreamy
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Serious 💪👌
Cheers 👍
Are those trails legal? I happen to have a lot of headwind as I ride trails that are technically not legal.
There are legal, but that part of the problem, the land owner is cool with how things are just now, but don’t want people travelling from around the country to ride here.
@@McTrailRider Oh ok. So if I visit you next year, you will not ride with me on this trail?
@@harzenduro we can ride these trails as long as we don’t advertise their location.
@@McTrailRider Sounds like a plan! I'll show you around our trails if you happen to be around next year or so. Is your bike an L?
@@harzenduro sounds good 👍 Yes, is a large.
Great trails m8 love the look off them
They are fantastic 👌
Nice video Andrew, trails looked well good but can’t help think these trail builders are pure bell ends keeping trails this good secret, (not having a go at you in case your thinking that)
These trails aren’t really secret, I just didn’t want to bring loads of attention to them, that may risk their future.
@@McTrailRider a get why you didn't say where they are as loads of mtber's will flood the place
Lush trails! 👌🏼😁 Tell the guys at Deviate and whoever builds, manages and maintains whats built there that they're doing a Stirling job - puts a lot of official trail centers to shame! 👍🏼🤟🏼😁
Hopefully, one day, I'll find my way up there and manage to bag myself a local guide so I can experience it for myself!?! 🤞🏼😕😬
The guys have done an incredible building these trails. Deviate have made an amazing bike, but have nothing to do with the trails though.
You would be better just not making and uploading videos of rides you don’t want others to ride.
Of course that would be better, but I like to film my rides and people like to watch.
If you can work out where they are from what’s in the video, then you already know the trails.
Jesus!!! If it looks steep with a go pro it must be near vertical. Great vid.
It was certainly pretty steep 😮