United tells Boeing to stop building 737 Max 10's
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2024
- As problems continue to mount for Boeing's 737 Max program, United Airlines is backing away from some of their orders for the aircraft. Meantime, a new FAA audit found dozens of issues in Boeing's manufacturing process.
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United: Don’t build anymore planes.
Boeing: We haven’t in several years.
The company has been financialized, like so many others. Stock buybacks and cost cutting to ensure that the stock price (stock options for executive pay) never goes down. If the price does go down, it becomes more difficult to get Wall Street to cheerlead another steady climb.
At least the cool LED lights in the cabin work. It definitely helps with mood lighting when the doors fly off.
lmfao underrated comment
RyanAir should buy the planes and they could charge passengers for a parachute
@@tufsoft1 or...or... They could charge for seating further away from those door plugs. (Parachute optional, contingent on a "small fee")
I wouldn't fly any Boeing plane right now. The entire company is synonymous with disaster.
Same here, certainly not in the Max series. It's not even just the problems that they've had, it's the fact that new problems seem to keep reoccurring in aircraft actually flying passengers. I'm also not entirely confident that the "fixed" issues are completely resolved.
Well if you don't fly Boeing aircrafts the company will go bankrupt and there won't be a Boeing company in the future.
If you have a sizeble or majority Boeing fleet, you would go out of business not flying your Boeing aircraft.. It's not like you can buy Airbus planes off the shelf. If you placed an order for Airbus planes today, you wouldn't receive any planes from your order until 2030 at the earluest.. So your statement makes zero sense. Even with the Max 10 delays, you are more likely to get your Max 10 planes 3 or 4 years before you can get anything from Airbus.
They're synonymous with corruption, really.
Yet they are safe and none have crashed recently. We are just having the "no air travel by 2030" agenda shoved down our throats under the guise of safety. This is all planned.
If it's Boeing I ain't going!!!
If it's Boeing it's going bang bang
@@handle11122 please don't
If its boeing we be falling
If it’s Boeing I’m going
@@autoparts101 good 4 U
"Plant floor hygiene if you will". Spoken like a true executive that knows nothing about what he is in charge of...... if you will
If you will.
If I will what? 🤔
And good old “tool management”. Yes, that old chestnut.
They are looking at providing their workers with tools (in this case a couple of spanners), so if someone remembers to put nuts and bolts on the doors, someone else might perhaps come along and manage them with their tools.
Well done Boeing!!
Groundbreaking territory again!!
That executive has never seen the plant floor in person. The way to fix Boeing is simple. You move the executives back to plant, have them enter the plant through the same doors as the workers and have their offices on a mezzanine on the second floor with the only way to access the offices is to walk the entire length of the plant floor to the elevators on the far side of the plant. That way every executive has to walk the entire floor amongst the workers twice each day. The problems will miraculously solve themselves.
Automate it all. Anything you people touch will end up with missing screws.
@VoteForBukele You people?
That sounds racist.
Translation "Dont waste your time building those, we're ordering from airbus from now on.
No they just want airplanes they asked Boeing to switch them to max 9s which are currently in production because the max 10s have been delayed. If they switched their orders to A321s they would be waiting even longer.
This ceo was an accountant. Airbus ceo was an aircraft engineer. The former does a once a month meeting via zoom, and the latter shows up to the site almost everyday
Daamn.. When an airline tells you to stop building a plane... you got issues.
The issue is that there is an agenda to end air travel for the masses and we are being conditioned to accept it with these stories.
Been going on for a while since a merger. So I heard
@@CaliSteve169except it is happening, so are the DEI programs.
@@CaliSteve169Huh sir we want safe and reliable plans lol
@@pmo6801 I know it is, all by design.
Boing needs to have their License suspended operations stopped till they got their stuff in order and no layoff's allowed instead of a fine
Thats not gonna happen. That would be very big economic threat to American interests. Its much easier to pay millions of families on their dead than losing billions per day of plant shutdown.
Who’s gonna pay the workers?
@@tiberianexcalibur the CEOs that take billions of dollars doing nothing make them take a pay cut
@@trashsombra4411 the Boeing CEO only gets $22.5 million. Hardly enough to pay all the workers for even a month.
@@tiberianexcalibur yeah only 22.5 million such a small amount and that's a lie he does stock buys backs and other kick backs
"The problem had gotten so bad, that even the managers were starting to notice." - Thomas the Tank Engine
Can't be the only one who heard that line in the actual voice. :D
lmao! 😁
How many more innocent lives would it take to get Boeing planes off the skies? That Alaskan airlines plane was extremely lucky. If the door plug blew off 15 minutes later into the flight it would have been a catastrophe. The LATAM 787 losing all power mysteriously during flight is scary. Until they get themselves sorted Boeing shouldn't be allowed to build a kid's bike, nevermind a plane.
Why 15 minutes later?
@@noahzero9380 because 15 minutes later the aircraft would have gained a lot of altitude. The fasten seatbelt sign would be turned off. A lot of passengers would have taken their belts off and get sucked out through the door
@@noahzero9380 Because the pressure difference between the inside and outside of the cabin would've been much higher, leading to a much more explosive decompression likely ripping out multiple lines of seats and everything not properly secured through the hole. At cruise altitude, it likely would've ripped the hull apart completely.
Airbus doing better
Until executive's at the top are held criminally liable they will always put profit over safety. Their vows are meaningless they promised to do so after the last failure with MCAS and here more safety problems.
Exactly right.
Perfectly said
It sounds like Boeing hired the CEO of General motors 😂😂
Boeing was just fine before the merge. And so is airbus now.
Problem is more like with the fact that boeing got to chose the fat certificators.
Profits over safety, what a concept!
Evidence ....... Boeing like " most of earth 🌎 is ocean" 😮
and yet the 40 IQs on here bootlick for billionaires
It's a problem with practically every industry in America and probably the world right now is these giant megacorps and their ridiculous needs I mean we have to support all these executives and their incredibly expensive lifestyles instead of paying for things like employee salaries and equipment.
These super rich people are costing us too much money to keep them happy.
I thought the problems were isolated to the 737Max planes. According to the dead engineer John Barnett the problems are in the Dreamliner planes also.
787 deliveries have been halted in the past due to quality issues.
Its the whole company sadly
It's the greed from the top that spawn the current culture at Boeing. That's going to affect the quality of all of their aiplanes.
Airline should tell Boeing to stop taking shortcuts.
airlines already dont want south Carolina built 787s due to quality issues, we seen issues with brand new 747 and 767 here so not surprised
The beginning of the end
No, Boeing is in luck that they operate in an industry with just two suppliers. Airbus can't build the planes fast enough to meet their orders, let alone Boeing's orders if airlines were to cancelled those.
@@dubbelosexy time for us to start a startup company and lets go and make planes lol
@@dubbelosexy Embraer??
Fund Embraer to build a full size narrow body? We saw what happened with the BCS3
@adacardano9068 Embraer has a hard time competing against the a220, former Bombardier C series, in the medium narrow body market to ever seriously challenging Boeing or Airbus in the a320/737 market. The development cost of new planes makes the barrier to entry into this industry almost impossible for companies like Bombardier or Embraer. That and lobbying is why Bombardier left the industry, and Embraer was almost sold to Boeing before the pandemic broke out. It takes a multiple of Embraer's yearly revenue to develop one wide body aircraft type. And if that plane does not sell as expected, it would lead ro Embraer'a bankruptcy. Chinese Comac is attempting it only with billions of state backing and because the internal Chinese market is big enough to get a foothold in the market. But that does not apply to the Embraer and the Brazilian market, which isn't that big to recoup those types of development costs.
Is this reporter high? Stumbling through the story.... Get it going dude you're on TV!
It is especially noticeable with earbuds.
The reporter is doing the same drugs boeing employees are doing
Hahahhahaahhah yaaa
he got Boeing stocks lol
You do realise he's reading from a teleprompter, which can stutter, but you're probably too high to notice.
Mr. Calhoun's resignation would be a good first step. 👍Appointing a new CEO ... this time an aviation engineer (from Lockheed Martin - for instance ) ... would be an excellent second step. 👍👍Boeing taking back the fuselages plant - from Spirit ... would be a perfect third step. 👍👍👍
And ... finally ... the last step of the emergency plan ... moving the headquarters to the Renton factory 👍👍👍👍 Because Max is their "cash cow" and - yet - is the most troubled. So, that factory needs 120 % attention from the management.
"It's just that simple" ... 😉
P.S.: In fact, if I would be the advisor of the new CEO ... I would advise him to build the new Renton offices right above & around the main production hall ... with steel & glass structures ... so, the managers to have under their eyes all that is going on in the assembling line ... and ... also .. the workers to "feel" those eyes supervising them. That's how serious the situation is ... 😐
The previous CEO (the one in the lead up to and during the crashes), Dennis Muilenburg, was an engineer, and had an aerospace engineering background, not a business one.
Needs to be more than the CEO. Whole culture needs to change.
@@A350flyernyc After mr. Burnett's "self-inflicted gunshot wound" ... it seems like a "mob" culture ...
And yeah, he was. Where is he now ? In prison, I supose. After all, he is responsable for 346 people killed ....
P.S.: That's why I suggested that a Lockheed Martin engineer to be appointed as Boeing CEO. For a year - as a start.
Cause all - at Boeing ... have BS (Boeing-Spirit) on their faces ... right now. And the new CEO will make a drastic selection of all personnel ...
@@A350flyernyc A mob culture ...
GE has too much grip on Boeing. It will be another GE ceo retread just like the last 5.
GE has destroyed this company yet they constantly blame McDonnell Douglass
@@Bangabalunga I think it is McDonnell Douglas. These problems started when Stonecipher became CEO.
I will literally never step on another Boeing plane ever again. It's going to be Airbus for me from now on. If it's Boeing I aint Going.
I don't blame you. The damage they've done to themselves is self-evident. I mean, what could they REALLY do now to instill confidence? OFFER FREE FLIGHTS?! Imagine if they did. It'd be like saying "hey, wanna roll the dice"? :/ Yeesh.
You're far more likely to die on the drive to the airport. Flying commercial is one of the safest modes of transportation
They will do the same to Airbus. The plan is to end air travel for the masses by 2030 and they are conditioning you to accept it under the guise of safety.
Same but if the airbus is way too expensive, I might have no choice but to go on Boeing
@@user-uj5ly1eq5n I literally don't care, I will pay the extra money or choose a different date or a different method of transportation altogether. Coincidentally I had to book a flight earlier today and I intentionally checked every airplane type to make sure I was avoiding all the Boeing flights. Fortunately the cheapest flight happened to be on an Airbus but I was prepared to pay extra if that wasn't the case.
I'm afraid to say that I will never fly in a Boeing again because I'm afraid of "suicide".
Airbus has a Final Assembly Hall in Mobile, Alabama there's also Brazil's Embraer.
Shareholders have destroyed Boeing.
The Government too... The FAA is mainly led by former BOEING Employees.
Shareholders did not make the safety decisions… It’s top management that forced upon the rest of the company
And I bet they're not waiting around
@@TeddyRomasno they did make those decisions because they screamed and hollered and demanded more and more money out of their investment and the people who run the company don't have spines and did exactly what they were told so yes shareholders did do this.
Their needs were placed in front of the needs of safety and quality and this is the result and if you are a Boeing shareholder you are directly responsible for these catastrophes.
As a shareholder of other companies, and I’ve many companies in the past, you are not directly responsible for anything. It’s your job to put money into the company to make more money out of the company, knowing that those who are in charge or to take full responsibility. We are not their babysitters. The people who run the company the CEO those people are directly responsible as they have all the information. Shareholders are never given all the information. The CEO and the company of Boeing were basically given a slap on the wrist. Shareholders are paying for this and the loss of their investment.
As a United Frequent Flyer I avoid all MAX jets regardless whether it's MAX 8,9, or 10 or whatever. The whole MAX model is garbage. I wish United would just ditch them all and replace with Airbus A320/321/etc series.
Why are Boeing managers, including ex manager, not in prison for the 737Max crashes?
same reason Trump isn't in prison
I'm surprised airplanes don't just outright cancel their orders altogether and order Airbus A320 NEOs. I don't trust any of the 737 Max variants.
Hmmm
Ignorance is bliss
An Airbus order now will be delivered after 2030
Smart ass
😅
Airbus has a huge backlog for their A320 line.
I wish - I love Airbus
Basically the aviation industry needs the 737 max the 320 waiting list is almost 10 years long. No one else in the world can manufacture planes on scale except Boeing and Airbus.
@@DontUputThatEvilOnMe
Yes true . A320 , 321 and their NEO versions are fully booked for 10 years .
Some airlines like Indigo have placed 200 plane orders and many more have placed 100s at a time !!!
A growing number of passengers are avoiding bookings on Boeing aircraft. There is even an app for booking flights without flying on Boeings!
this app will be very popular soon!
🫡......not like a recall on a car, your 35,000 up, were humans aren't supposed to be in the first place
I rather fly frontier airlines for now since they fly only Airbus planes instead of Boeing planes.
Add COMAC in Texas and Boeing is done.
Airbus is happy 😅
Find the video of their CFO exlaining why they are not. At all.
Totally Unacceptable the way Boeing performed the Quality Control. Unbelievable !!
This is the result of cutting corners to maximize profits. Now it could likely cost a loss of business. I switch to Airbus
Boeing needs to change management and CEO
They have the problem still coexist
Let the former CEO of Toyota take their place that’s all.
Who the heck was the first guy in this video? Did the regular anchor call in sick and they grabbed someone walking by to read the teleprompter? He couldn't even do that.
As for United canceling the -10's and going with -9s, what are they thinking there? Why would you continue ordering ANY of the MAX aircraft? It has been brought to the public's attention by former and current employee interviews, emails and documentation that procedures are not followed on the production line.
Now this information from the FAA that Boeing failed more than a third of their audits, and Spirit more than half of theirs. But it took another major incident for the FAA to increase oversight. And this is all AFTER two MAX crashes. Who is going to fly on these aircraft now?
the issue is that you won't get Airbus A320s until after 2030
The self inspection by the company has failed. Time to bring back FAA oversight of construction procedures and verification.
Boeing, holding a 25-million dollar check: That aircraft is airworthy, isn't it?
FAA: (pockets check) Oh sure!
Dawn dishwashing detergent, if it's good enough for Boeing it's good enough for my dishes 😂
Dawn's next commercial: "Using aircraft-grade antimicrobial formulas that keep planes in flight, Dawn now brings this space-age technology in to your home with a variety of advanced detergents."
How this well respected company destroying itself . Unbelievable.
They got cheap and cut corners.
Boeing’s new slogan….”You will make it up …but not sure how you will get down”
it will definately fly.....but the landing is kinda a roulette wheel....
Unacceptable that’s all
dish soap as lubricant? What's next KY jelly?
Joy jelly.
It's probably the exact same material, just put in a technical looking container and pay 500% more for it.
it works well. it is an excellent rubber lubricant while wet, trapped soap becomes sticky, exposed soap is washed away.
Their problem was they didn't buy it from a industrial chemical supplier under a different brand name, so it looks unprofessional.
Boeing IS unprofessional, though.
Very similar in nature but was unbranded
It's a perfectly acceptable use ....outside the aviation industry.
In the aviation industry , everything has to be certified, and while Dawn dish liquid has been used to by mechanics around the World to lubricate rubber seals (by dumb luck it's nearly perfect for it) it's unacceptable to use it in the aviation field because it's never been certified by the FAA.
So even though the tires on your car were probably put on the rims with dish liquid as a lubricant to help the tire seal to the rim....your aircraft door seals shouldn't be.
If it ain’t Embraer, I ain’t going in the air.
AIRBUS
@@asheeshtiwari5580 huh
@@asheeshtiwari5580 - private > COMMERICAL
*Time to fly CHINESE JETS, now...😂*
OMG.
A assembly worker could give a better answer .
maybe but he got shot dead.
They come to work drunk, you can also buy coke, fentanyl, weed at the BOEING Plant in South Carolina.
And, That's where the SCREAMLINER 😱 is made.
then they’re fired
🤔.....their in on it to.....
Im not flying any boeing planes soon
Smart move
I know a lot of restaurants that fail inspections like 33 out of 89 would not be open right now. How is Boeing still cranking out 27 737 max's per month?
This reporter sounds like Max Headroom.
I don't mine the older 737s but no Max models or Dreamliners.
This is crazy 😮😢😮
It hasn't been certified anyway
nowadays "a certification" means less than target's warranty.
It helps to use all the parts when building a plane instead of saying good enough
This is good for Boeing and united. Max 8+9 are certified. This is a wise move.
The day the head office moved to Chicago. Should have been a sign that sales were going to take over. And engineering would take a back seat. Many many years ago the same thing happened to Chrysler.
Damn dont mess with Boeing higher management they will silence you. 😢
Kayak is currently highlighting it's feature where you can select planes which you want to avoid as a lot of customers ask for this feature
I would say things are going south for Boeing.
I don't think they are able to turn things around.
A lot of bs decisions were made.
Too many.
Thanks for the heads up.....👍
Is Boeing a Chinese manufacturer?
It was manufactured in Washington state in America
parts ordered from guangzhou, assembly using chinese spies?@@The_Happy_Aviation_Enthusiast
China China China China… China really does live rent free in the minds of Americans 😂
american quality XDXDXDXD
Actually China is making their own planes now, I think they have cancel all Boeing contract.
If it is Boeing, I ain't fling.
You ain't what, genius?
If an AIRLINE asking the MANUFACTUERS to stop building plane.you know you fucked up big ficking time
Stop makingn max 10 and replace them with max 9. But of course headline is misleading to be sensationalizing.
TO be honest, it's the Boeing 737 MAX series. I check the plane type before I fly. The pre-merger aircraft, like the 757 and 767 are still good. But I am avoiding the MAX.
Boeing - Make Airbus Great Again
Huh… the two planes that crashed were Max 8s and the one with a panel blow out was a Max 9. 🤔
Everybody's retirement has got money in Boeing stock!
so what investing is always taking a risk
So Boeing should operate with impunity because 0.0001% of blue chip funds depend on Boeing?
I Do Not feel safe flying ANY Boeing Aircraft. I wish there were more options to pick and choose.
Life is boring! Take a flight with a Boeing airplane! 😂
Maybe lockheed should take their part in the Airliner market again....
I totally agree 100% Airbus is like the Japanese auto manufacturers to say it all that not even Japan buys Boeing.
Focus more on the quality not the fast quantity…
I googled how the max 10 looks. All the seats are on one side of the plane. Doesn’t that make the weight distribution uneven. And the prototype photo shows whoever sits on the window seat will have their neck broken in the event of turbulence. Who designer the plane?? Yikes!!
Wow that’s nuts. A hotel key card and don dish soap. Wow.
Sorry, ehm, would Boing have to file for bankruptcy if they would perform all the usual efforts necessary? Isn’t that the elephant in the room?
I find all of this even more sobering knowing that there are only two companies that make the world’s airplanes: Boeing and Airbus.
To big to fail......Sleepy Joe ain't saying anything about flights nor train derailment in Ohio
Let the Chinese make planes in Texas that’s all.
When you book a flight I feel like the airline ought to be telling customers if the plane will be a Boeing so they have the option to fly another route
??? MAX10 isn’t being built yet as it hasn’t been certified yet.
They have to stop all these variant of MAXs !
The reason that there wasn't paperwork is that INEXPLICABLY they didn't treat the plug doors as any different than the regular doors and the regular doors do not and should not have a QA process for opening and closing them. I can see how this could happen, but a long time ago someone should have said "Wait a sec here..."
Untied should worry about their own maintenance dept. Latest issues came from their Boeings. Not the many other Boeings worldwide. They weren't new Boeings that United had issues with.
Ouch… the problem is, when you book a flight and the company only uses that plane and it’s your only option… you can’t do much…
About Time !
My worst nightmare comes true. I was once stoked and excited about the 737 Max jet when it first appeared and hoping the new planes future wouldn't lead to disaster, scandal and suspicion, Its a flying Chevy Vega. What a shame.
Boeing clearly does not want to build planes anymore.
👏👏👏👏 Respect to United! And Alaskan! 🎉
Interesting how letting them mark their own homework turned out.
Wow, I’m never flying again…. Hello Interstate Highway System
I always wonder why they didn’t go to a new plane with a clean sheet design .
Greed.
Boeing carrying on the McDonnell Douglas legacy. Very impressive
It’s the 747s payback because they discontinued it. The 747 is pissed
If these accidents happen on any other plane building companies that is not American owned, would it be grounded?
YES IT WOULD!
The problem is failing to see that the check list is missing checks
Is there something wrong with this guy's teleprompter? It's like watching a buffering video.
Put another way, revert Windows to a previous version because a major update causes crashes
part of Boeing's punishment: Sec Pete right behind you
so what you saying is.. when in went in for a C- Check they didn’t raise an NRC for this task ?? no bolts ? so rigging didn’t take place ? this is really trash sorry !!
United tell Boeing, we don’t want any more of the terrible Max 10’s, but we’ll happily take your terrible Max 9s 🤯🤯🤯
waooooo
Oh no, think of the share holders.
LOL United the issue is not the design per say but the BUILD QUALITY along with QUALITY & COMPLIANCE TESTING so changing model will not matter as is will still be built with PROFIT being the objective, NOT QUALITY of build. The company I worked for (part of a multinational company that was shut down to increase Shareholder payout from 5% to 8%) followed this practise, designers were TOLD to reduce the quality of the build by things like replacing metal parts with plastic (reduced build cost, more servicing sales) & we were TOLD to reduce build quality (reduced thread locking on fasteners, reduced test running & reduced quality checking to reduce in house rework) all for PROFIT at EXPENSE of customer
“Dawn dish soap as a lubricant” Ik Boeing is a money hungry company but Jesus Christ that’s bad😂
They're optimistic if they believe the 9 is somehow better than the 10. The whole lot should be scrapped. I'm happy on the 777 but not the rest.
There was an Episode of Grand Designs a British House Building show where a German crew turned up to erect the house, at the end of the week ; all Nuts Bolts and Screws had to be accounted for, the trucks cleaned and repacked with all tools accounted for and in their place; this was a House.
Start equipping the max with parachutes.
Its not the max 10's, its the quality the problem , and the company taking shortcuts
Huh. I wonder why. Such a strange request, yes? *eyeroll*
Embraer should take the chance at this opportunity.