Have found your instructions and advice useful because you are clear and concise. Am attempting to improve my large rear garden lawn but it is still far too wet on my heavy clay soil. I tend not to want too much chemical attention but lawn has been infested with moss and clover. My professional scarifier will continue to remedy both of these.
If your tap water is alkaline, ours is ph 8, consult your local city or town waterworks information. If you are mixing ferrous sulphate add citric acid to lower your application water ph to about 5. Otherwise the iron will oxidize or turn to rust even before it leaves the sprayer and blockages will occur and it will not work as good.
Nice to see some lawn vids coming back. I was relying on Aussie videos but even they’ve stopped over Christmas 😔. Anyway, good vid as always. And as someone else said. BRING ON SPRING! 😄
@@GardenLawncareGuy aha me neither! I’m gonna have a lot of work to do this spring. It’s been a long old winter for my lawn, I guess I’ll just pretend to have yours for a while 😂
Brilliant video - thank you :) Please will you post a link to the back-pack-sprayer (20 litres)? I have a lawn which is just under quarter of an acre. Looking forward to hearing from you. Suzy
hi bud, would it be a good idea to scrafify first if the moss is extremely matted just that me thinking is that ifbi put my scrafify on highest setting to brake up the surface of the moss then apply the iron?
Man…. Your moss is tall! Mine is really thick and taking over my yard again.. I had it killed off for a year or two but it came back w a vengeance. I mow lower too so I was hoping this was over for good but it’s just all over my property. 😩 I’m wondering if I do a sand top dress after aeration if it will help a drainage problem I might have. I have to scarify my lawn again after scalping and throw down some iron again.
The iron treatment will also darken up your green grass. One bit of caution though. Do NOT spray the iron solution on any hard surfaces like driveways, walkways, or patios as it will leave a rusty coloration unless IMMEDIATELY washed off with water. For a granular iron application blow or sweep the iron granules back into the grass immediately after applying and definitely before it gets wet.
I know this was a year ago but ill put my input in as used iron sulphate for the first time recently. I used 5l of water for 50sqm which was enough, with 125 Grams of the powder mixed in. Sprayed lawn last week due to scarify lawn in a few weeks then put another treatment down then gonna seed then put starter fertiliser down. Gonna keep on top of the moss this year as my back lawn on shady all winter and sun all summer one extreme to another.
@@IrishRanger2452 it's banned for a good reason, we have a declining bee population in the UK. Products like Tenacity are super bad for the environment, please don't use this product on your lawn. It can also have serious health concerns for yourself if you do no apply it properly.
I've used the Pro Kleen before at the volume it states on the tub. To get it to the professional ratio you mentioned for the pro product, how much more would I use and is there any drawbacks doing this? On eof those tubs goes a very long way..
@@GardenLawncareGuy But if the moss is treated in early spring, it would then need to be raked out ?? Also, do you have an opinion on the organic product 'MoBacta' ??? I used it once years ago and was considering using it again ? Thanks.
Pretty sure most may see the op as an advert. Garden helplines are available and all will generally give knowledge for free.. that is what it is in general. . Some guy posted pictures of my garden a few years back, then had the cheek to charge people to copy the pictures. I was pretty ok with that in the main although it would have been nice to explain the pics would be sold on. I keep tabs on the guy and his site to make sure he does not run advertising for garden products on his site as he lives about 3000 miles away and needs to respect certain stuff
Ferrous sulphate heptahydrate is an organic compound. It is a byproduct of steel making. If you buy it as a soluble powder keep it tightly sealed as it will clump on contact with the moisture in the air. Chelated iron products work better in soils that have elevated ph and they do last longer but are more for solving deficiencies in the soil than just getting moss blackened.
Sand is the filler and to help you apply it evenly. Ammonium sulphate and ferrous sulphate are combined with the sand. Be sure your turf is damp then spread. Do not mix far ahead. Year a face mask with the ferrous sulphate.
I saw landscaping companies using this typo of spreader they used them to spread salt around businesses to I will will say look for it where they buy there equipment
so what's a better solution the pro kleen iron or lawn sand or is it better doing both at the same time? and do any of these affect new grass seed do you have to wait to put seed down?
I haven’t been able to find a liquid iron product marketed by Lilly Miller. I have found iron granules and liquid ammoniated soap of fatty acids, but no liquid iron. At least not where I live. Granules work, but it’s hard to control the application. The ammoniated soap works, but only during the dry season.
@@carlsdrumshop no the liquid iron is by law star. Moss out can be purchased as a liquid or granular forms and that is sold by Lilly Miller. Completely different products
Moss will only grow in wet shade. If your lawn area is well drained and in the sun moss won't be a problem. If it's not you'll be trying to kill it off for ever.
Great vid I've recently brought some of this stuff and the same sprayer. What dosage do you dilute your iron sulphate at? I have a 120m2 garden and find it really hard calculating how much water and grams of iron I would need to do. Any help would be appreciated.
Honestly, the moss isn't there because you forgot to bring out iron. I would wish for a rather sustainable solution instead of what I perceive a quick fix. I think this is more of working on the conditions that let moss occur in the first place.
Exactly! Moss is a product of the natural conditions…you can kill it…but it will only grow back…if the conditions that promote moss growth aren’t changed.
From my days in the fire department: you CANNOT decontaminate leather. So why do many people think it is ok to wear shoe made of rubber/cloth/leather. your skin absorbs chemicals. Please everyone; wear rubber or similar boots when using chemicals. It is also a good idea to wear long sleeve shirt, goggles, rubber/nitrile gloves; your eyes will absorb chemical compounds and some will cause blindness. With some chemicals you will want to wear non vented goggles, rubber butyl gloves and a respirator. @ 2:18 wearing shoes with leather, @ 5:12 he found his rubber boots: Good.
@@GardenLawncareGuy yes, I use washing powder, sprinkle over moss and it kills it of in a couple of days..just use cheap stuff, try a section and see ..
Dark Green + Moss Autumn - gardenlawncareguy.com/product/glg-autumn-dark-green-fertiliser-10kg/
Lawn Sand - gardenlawncareguy.com/product/lawn-sand-3-0-0-7fe-25kg/
Do you ever have issues with garden slabs when applying this ? In the past year be seen it stain slabs
This product is not available on Amazon anymore. Any substitutes?
@@GardenLawncareGuy hi there where did you buy yr scotts spreader i cant find yr exact model only in usa
can this be used on lawns where animals are present?
Have found your instructions and advice useful because you are clear and concise. Am attempting to improve my large rear garden lawn but it is still far too wet on my heavy clay soil. I tend not to want too much chemical attention but lawn has been infested with moss and clover. My professional scarifier will continue to remedy both of these.
If your tap water is alkaline, ours is ph 8,
consult your local city or town waterworks information.
If you are mixing ferrous sulphate add citric acid to lower your application water ph to about 5.
Otherwise the iron will oxidize or turn to rust even before it leaves the sprayer and blockages will occur and it will not work as good.
I’ve raked an area of grass and lots of moss has come off. Will new grass grow if I scatter seeds on the surface? It’s quite bare now
Yes sir
@@Wabsy1 I did a month back. Didn’t work
@@game1414 maybe it's a patch in shade
Nice to see some lawn vids coming back. I was relying on Aussie videos but even they’ve stopped over Christmas 😔. Anyway, good vid as always. And as someone else said. BRING ON SPRING! 😄
Yeah I have a few saved up but my editor went down for 1 month so couldn't release! Go loads of good stuff coming up this year, can't wait
@@GardenLawncareGuy aha me neither! I’m gonna have a lot of work to do this spring. It’s been a long old winter for my lawn, I guess I’ll just pretend to have yours for a while 😂
Great moss video, I've added iron 2 my lawn care regime now! Roll on spring 👌
Thanks Richard - sure you will be happy with that, let's go SPRING!!
Moss grows best in an acidic soil. It tends to grow around our pine needle beds. Adding lime fixes the issue for us.
Interesting tip
Brilliant video - thank you :) Please will you post a link to the back-pack-sprayer (20 litres)? I have a lawn which is just under quarter of an acre. Looking forward to hearing from you. Suzy
hi bud, would it be a good idea to scrafify first if the moss is extremely matted just that me thinking is that ifbi put my scrafify on highest setting to brake up the surface of the moss then apply the iron?
Yeah scarify first! Check this out too gardenlawncareguy.com/shop/fertiliser/lawn-liquid-iron/
Would be good to see a video on how much Iron Sulphate you use on your lawn. I always get paranoid that I will kill my lawn by adding too much.
I use it monthly, i have a high PH too which it can help reduce i believe
@@GardenLawncareGuy awesome, thanks. How much do you apply to the lawn each time?
Man…. Your moss is tall! Mine is really thick and taking over my yard again.. I had it killed off for a year or two but it came back w a vengeance. I mow lower too so I was hoping this was over for good but it’s just all over my property. 😩 I’m wondering if I do a sand top dress after aeration if it will help a drainage problem I might have. I have to scarify my lawn again after scalping and throw down some iron again.
The iron treatment will also darken up your green grass. One bit of caution though. Do NOT spray the iron solution on any hard surfaces like driveways, walkways, or patios as it will leave a rusty coloration unless IMMEDIATELY washed off with water. For a granular iron application blow or sweep the iron granules back into the grass immediately after applying and definitely before it gets wet.
Exactly, the iron will stain things good shout
Hi sir tell me which grass seed is best for my lawn and send me link where I am buying it
gardenlawncareguy.com/shop/product-category/grass-seed/
With the iron sulphate how much water you you need for a 50 square meter lawn?
I used 5-10l per 100sm, any pros watching that want to give their view on this? @lawnright
I know this was a year ago but ill put my input in as used iron sulphate for the first time recently.
I used 5l of water for 50sqm which was enough, with 125 Grams of the powder mixed in.
Sprayed lawn last week due to scarify lawn in a few weeks then put another treatment down then gonna seed then put starter fertiliser down.
Gonna keep on top of the moss this year as my back lawn on shady all winter and sun all summer one extreme to another.
Thanks for this. Do you know a good option in the UK for Tenacity weed control? Seen it used extensively in the USA, but not available here.
Hello, it's not allowed in UK and no real
alternatives for selective control for the key culprit grasses like POA
I did read about it on another site, where it could be ordered on amazon, its very expensive though
@@IrishRanger2452 it's banned for a good reason, we have a declining bee population in the UK. Products like Tenacity are super bad for the environment, please don't use this product on your lawn. It can also have serious health concerns for yourself if you do no apply it properly.
I've used the Pro Kleen before at the volume it states on the tub. To get it to the professional ratio you mentioned for the pro product, how much more would I use and is there any drawbacks doing this? On eof those tubs goes a very long way..
Just had to do a lot of our lawn with soluble iron phosphate, had a warm winter and moss is taking over the whole neighborhood
Great as always. Considering you have just released the video can this be applied now as temperatures in the SE are above freezing?
Yep 👍
What he said :D
@@LawnRight cheers. I went ahead and did this on Monday and I can see that it's msgr was difference already. So pleased I did....
Nice job 👍
Is there a need to rake out the dead moss once it turns black?
Personally I dont rake mine out over the winter time, grass can't repair as it's not growing.
@@GardenLawncareGuy Thanks for the advice, I didn't think it would be a good idea.
@@GardenLawncareGuy But if the moss is treated in early spring, it would then need to be raked out ??
Also, do you have an opinion on the organic product 'MoBacta' ??? I used it once years ago and was considering using it again ? Thanks.
Yes, but in the spring the grass is actively growing so it will repair its self!
Could you tell me the make of the large capacity sprayer with the double boom. Many thanks
Pretty sure most may see the op as an advert.
Garden helplines are available and all will generally give knowledge for free.. that is what it is in general.
.
Some guy posted pictures of my garden a few years back, then had the cheek to charge people to copy the pictures.
I was pretty ok with that in the main although it would have been nice to explain the pics would be sold on.
I keep tabs on the guy and his site to make sure he does not run advertising for garden products on his site as he lives about 3000 miles away and needs to respect certain stuff
How do you kill the grass but not the moss?
Great video, I’m looking to do this organically , can I ask is the iron organic, if not can you suggest something that is? Cheers.
Ferrous sulphate heptahydrate is an organic compound.
It is a byproduct of steel making.
If you buy it as a soluble powder keep it tightly sealed as it will clump on contact with the moisture in the air.
Chelated iron products work better in soils that have elevated ph and they do last longer but are more for solving deficiencies in the soil than just getting moss blackened.
Lime
Where to buy the lawn sand? Would the regular sand work? Thanks.
Sand is the filler and to help you apply it evenly.
Ammonium sulphate and ferrous sulphate are combined with the sand.
Be sure your turf is damp then spread.
Do not mix far ahead.
Year a face mask with the ferrous sulphate.
If you are using chlorinated tap water leave it to stand for a couple of hours before adding ingredients and spraying.
hi there where did you buy yr scotts spreader i cant find yr exact model only in usa
I saw landscaping companies using this typo of spreader they used them to spread salt around businesses to I will will say look for it where they buy there equipment
so what's a better solution the pro kleen iron or lawn sand or is it better doing both at the same time? and do any of these affect new grass seed do you have to wait to put seed down?
where did the other iron come from it is not listed. all i see is the pro kleen stuff.
hi leon that was a pro product which i generally dont list on the channel
you can buy a huge bag [25 kg] of iron sulphate
for pennies
I found dissolving builders lime and water applied with a watering can and rose to be far more effective than lawn sand. About 1 cup full to 1 gallon.
Not heard of that before interesting
I've just bought some pro-kleen iron sulphate but I need to find a new nozzle for my pressure sprayer,one that produces a wide fan
Youngy, getting some of these in back in stock hopefully next week!
Yeah I seen you were sold out of nozzles but I also need the part that screws over the nozzle if you know what I mean 🥴
Ah yeah the screw cap thing
Yeah that thing lol...I'll keep an eye on your website for the nozzle and I'll try and find the cap
Would chelated liquid iron by lawnstar work just as good as something like moss out by Lilly Miller? To kill the moss?
I haven’t been able to find a liquid iron product marketed by Lilly Miller. I have found iron granules and liquid ammoniated soap of fatty acids, but no liquid iron. At least not where I live.
Granules work, but it’s hard to control the application. The ammoniated soap works, but only during the dry season.
@@carlsdrumshop no the liquid iron is by law star. Moss out can be purchased as a liquid or granular forms and that is sold by Lilly Miller. Completely different products
☀️Great video and very informative!!☀️👍😎
Hey SB, thanks for stopping by and the comment 👍
Moss will only grow in wet shade. If your lawn area is well drained and in the sun moss won't be a problem. If it's not you'll be trying to kill it off for ever.
Quite right...no point in going to all that trouble when the cause remains.
Good stuff
Good video.
Thanks nigel
If the moss is prevalent am I likely to end up with large bare patches? Great video thanks
Yes it be very bare if you do it right ready for overseeding, if you need any help with seed drop me a message on my website 👍
Are these products OK to use when one has domestic pets and grandchildren? Thanks.
Always check the labels depending on the products 👍
Makes sense- thanks
Great vid I've recently brought some of this stuff and the same sprayer.
What dosage do you dilute your iron sulphate at?
I have a 120m2 garden and find it really hard calculating how much water and grams of iron I would need to do. Any help would be appreciated.
What model of Bosh lawn mower is that in the video? Is it a cylinder type?
I think if I did this to my garden, I'd have about about three blades of grass. My lands mostly moss. Might try on a small area to see how it does.
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Honestly, the moss isn't there because you forgot to bring out iron. I would wish for a rather sustainable solution instead of what I perceive a quick fix. I think this is more of working on the conditions that let moss occur in the first place.
Exactly! Moss is a product of the natural conditions…you can kill it…but it will only grow back…if the conditions that promote moss growth aren’t changed.
why have you not showed scarifying and airiating the lawn which is ESSENTIAL
Do you like to scarify every year?
Oh good
I wish my lawn could be moss
Moss like very much Portland Oregon
😆😆
From my days in the fire department: you CANNOT decontaminate leather. So why do many people think it is ok to wear shoe made of rubber/cloth/leather. your skin absorbs chemicals.
Please everyone; wear rubber or similar boots when using chemicals. It is also a good idea to wear long sleeve shirt, goggles, rubber/nitrile gloves; your eyes will absorb chemical compounds and some will cause blindness. With some chemicals you will want to wear non vented goggles, rubber butyl gloves and a respirator. @ 2:18 wearing shoes with leather, @ 5:12 he found his rubber boots: Good.
What is wrong with moss? Lawn grass is natures concrete!
Music, the curse of You Tube
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Kill the grass and keep the moss.
I like grass
Professional? In training shoes and track suit !, haha, even spraying his feet as he walks.
Washing powder!
For killing moss?
@@GardenLawncareGuy yes, I use washing powder, sprinkle over moss and it kills it of in a couple of days..just use cheap stuff, try a section and see ..