Some quick notes/takeaways from season 3 assists: -C assists are very quick when used during combos, which makes them great for confirming neutral tools on reaction (just be prepared for a longer assist cooldown period) -There are lots of high blockstun assist options now, so explore what your favorite characters can do! -Combos are super flexible now. have fun! On the topic of Bardock's B assist. Time will tell for sure if it's as good as myself, and most top players think. Currently it has enormous blockstun, enormous hitstun, supports converting most projectiles on reaction, and sets up insane optimal combos, all without the drawbacks of a C assist. The fact that it teleports directly to the opponent seems like an accident, and is probably what most people are expecting arcsys to "fix" about it. For now, it's here to stay, so have some fun with it! Here's a body-swapped bardock combo I found an hour into season 3 that uses it, just because I thought it'd be funny: twitter.com/RathFGC/status/1232136149801373696
0:30, Hey man. Please don't kill yourself making these things for us o.k. Get ample rest and sleep. The body only recovers properly with rest and relaxation y'know. Eat right and drink plenty of fluids too. Then you'll feel much better in making daily videos throughout the week! The trouble is always rushing a bit too much is all, slow down a little and you'll be fine in making these things o.k. man! Cheers.
Hey dude, really like your videos. Slightly off topic though, what do you think about the change to Hit's 236M? He did get some decent stuff this season but I think ArcSys crippled one of Hit's more important tools along with his 2L. Then again, it could just be that I rely on 236M too much and the change from wall bounce to sliding makes me feel like said change was pretty unnecessary. Just asking since you also play a good Hit.
So you saw the list of assists and said "I'm not gonna show them all one by one, I'm gonna quickly talk about real applications and ideas to help the people watching"? You madman. Great stuff as always!
Great video. I havent played DBFZ since Season 1 and im really excited now that my boy Frieza is now looking really good! This patch is the kind of patching SF5 needed tbh. It's a complete face lift to the game and is super refreshing. It's not just a "balance patch" like every game does. its a complete revamp of the engine and it feels so great.
Only stumbled across your channel recently, but your advice really is incredibly good. Other channels are helpful for learning basics, but you teach basic ideas and also really advanced things, and make it all seem simple and approachable. Appreciate the content!
Oki is just a setup after a hard knockdown, not a level 3. Like gt goku had good oki after his lvl 3 Bc he had so much time to create a mixup while the opponent was getting up from the hard knockdown. Another example of oki being krillin rock in corner, it’s a setup after a hard knockdown
If they take away the tracking the assist is fine. You can't use it in neutral at all since its hitbox is pretty bad. It will just be good for mixups and combos
Great content as always Rath! Love your stuff, keep it up :) Big fan! And also, yeah, i think what they should change about Bardock's B assist is the tracking, like you said, it seems like an accident, but time will tell!
Great video as always, I hope the cooldown time doesn't ruin all of the C assists. Some corrections I have to make here tho: Pre-Patch the 3 highest blockstun-assists were Kid Boo, Gotenks and Yamcha (not Base Goku). Vegeta Blue also has more if you count the first part of the move. 16 assist pre-patch was 38f (or 36f), not 50f. It was not that broken, thank god xD
Janemba's demonic blade. Finally a better assist. Haha. That Bardock one is pretty silly. Hope we get more patches then just the one a year. Some assist will be pretty op. Time will tell. Nice vid.
@@chriscastro6449 Kid buu assist has precisely 12 more blockstun frames, wich is not that much. And it's a lock down type of assist, you cannot use it for every situation. It particularly sucks in neutral for instance, whereas Bardock B assist is literally good everywhere, and is an absolute "fuck neutral" toy. But ok...
I'm not getting all the ruckus around Bardock B assist. There are other B assists that also track on the ground, are faster or have bigger hitboxes. Gotenks donut tracks even on the air, Kid bu A has enough range and block stun to give mix to everybody, hit's new B assist covers more range faster and gives a wall bounce to confirm, etc, etc
With bardocks new assist you can play him with so many more characters now. For example Frieza who usually needs beam assist to get the best combos mid screen. Now you can play him with bardock! Anything that adds more options is a good thing kidbuu and gotenks have held heavy block stun assist hostage for the entire time and were they touched? No. It’s time to play other characters with the option of having tools from another
@@paulspruijt2097 Especially with the manual 17 energy wave EX move which is basically an insta-super, she's a whole different beast now. She can self double super!💥
Bro that manual 17 EX call is the most busted thing I’ve seen in S3 so far. I fought a pride trooper 18 player who every time he would get an SKD on me, do the manual 17 EX Call and go for a mix, and I can’t see a damn thing at all because of the explosion. Lmao this season is nutty af 😂
Really informative! What do you feel are the best applications of DP assists? I've never really had much success with them when compared to beams, combo extenders, or assists with high hit stun. I'm a little disappointed with the assists they decided to give Gogeta and am trying to determine if there's any point in trying to use his DP assist.
If you skip to the end of the Teen Gohan 101 video I uploaded a while back, I should talk about it a bit and show some examples. But generally they're really quick, usually have some invul on them, and let you challenge the opponent up close without needing to actually commit to anything dangerous. Just get used to superjumping to confirm the hit on reaction. They're also really good to use alongside superdash, since they reach so high you can lock the opponent down even when they block your superdash in the air.
For real bro. I was speechless when I saw his B assist was just the second hit of his auto combo. Why give him something that wack when you could've given him rolling crush. Smh
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The biggest thing I'm thinking about is using characters who used to have bad assists in anchor, and characters who used to have busted assists on point.
love your videos man! keep it up! i have a question though. I play on xbox and the regular and the elite controller dpad both mess with my defense and combos.. because when i press the back button and hold it slightly up or down, the character will either jump or go down. do you have any reccomendations or controllers (custom?) or should i just consider buying a fight stick?
I think you can do well with any type of controller you want (pad, stick, hitbox, etc). If you would prefer a different type of pad, you could look up Brook brand converters which will let you plug in a PlayStation controller into an Xbox or vice versa
Just a little heads up, I've probably played like 1000 hours with the simple XBone controller and, as long as you use the DPad for blocking (I don't do it but I know I should) it really nullifies the badness of the joystick.
Honestly something I've been trying to lab out a solution to the issue with the stagger nerf because it also makes assists not come back in oki scenarios. I thought maybe I could get away with a C assist with adult Gohan and maybe do something like gogeta level 1>gohan level 1>air DR. Unfortunately you probably can't cover all options on wake up and get your assists back. I can cover up tech and back tech individually with a visually identical setup and get my assists back just not both for some reason.
Ginyu isnt frieza force either The ginyu force is a mercenary group that is second strongest with frieza being first. They have contract to work together
I’m pretty sure Bardock’s B assist is bugged because it’s tracking like a C assist and the patch notes said it would have a follow up on hit but there isn’t a follow up
Na , i always used piccolo A assist and now its better and more rewarding on combos whit 2 orbs But i always used it to force some reactions , like force a super dash or force them to trow ki blasts , whatever the reaction is , its forced by that ki blast Its very good to set traps , just never try to dragon rush or grabs after the blast hits on block , for some reason it wiffs
the bardock assist is meant to be that good. theres no reason to nerf the move it's a move that's good on block when hes in play so why wouldnt it be good as an assist???
That assist don't reduce a lot the scaled damage??. I mean when you use it while playing tien it happen that, i don't know if it's the same working as an assist
@@santi3256 i play base goku. So having a paralysis assist helps land the spirit ball to spirit bomb combo easily. But you have to very accurate on ur inputs. But yeah these assists made dbfz a whole game
Nah man, I've been playing Frieza for a time and (I'm not a pro or close) his basic combos can be simple enough and a backdash between here snd there is always nice. Also, with the new addition of superdash after vanish it's easier now to do some nice damage after zoning
@@pumpingpriest5893 oh well im that sense it is hard. Anyways learning the basics is still really helpful as there are many combos that are hard to drop. Golden Frieza can be used to amplify damage or make way more complex combos, these are hard, but keep on practicing he is a great character (and landing an unexpected grounded lvl 3 is awesome)
@@heathenmonk1249 I intend to land it in combos with the new golden frieza mechanic. You know, since we are able to cancel golden frieza manually now that should be possible
![3 Things ASSISTS Can Do For YOU [DBFZ]](/img/1.gif)
Some quick notes/takeaways from season 3 assists:
-C assists are very quick when used during combos, which makes them great for confirming neutral tools on reaction (just be prepared for a longer assist cooldown period)
-There are lots of high blockstun assist options now, so explore what your favorite characters can do!
-Combos are super flexible now. have fun!
On the topic of Bardock's B assist. Time will tell for sure if it's as good as myself, and most top players think. Currently it has enormous blockstun, enormous hitstun, supports converting most projectiles on reaction, and sets up insane optimal combos, all without the drawbacks of a C assist. The fact that it teleports directly to the opponent seems like an accident, and is probably what most people are expecting arcsys to "fix" about it. For now, it's here to stay, so have some fun with it!
Here's a body-swapped bardock combo I found an hour into season 3 that uses it, just because I thought it'd be funny: twitter.com/RathFGC/status/1232136149801373696
0:30, Hey man. Please don't kill yourself making these things for us o.k. Get ample rest and sleep. The body only recovers properly with rest and relaxation y'know. Eat right and drink plenty of fluids too. Then you'll feel much better in making daily videos throughout the week! The trouble is always rushing a bit too much is all, slow down a little and you'll be fine in making these things o.k. man! Cheers.
Hey dude, really like your videos. Slightly off topic though, what do you think about the change to Hit's 236M? He did get some decent stuff this season but I think ArcSys crippled one of Hit's more important tools along with his 2L. Then again, it could just be that I rely on 236M too much and the change from wall bounce to sliding makes me feel like said change was pretty unnecessary. Just asking since you also play a good Hit.
So you saw the list of assists and said "I'm not gonna show them all one by one, I'm gonna quickly talk about real applications and ideas to help the people watching"? You madman.
Great stuff as always!
I think someone in Arcsys is inlove with Bardock.
Probably Daisuke Ishiwatari since he and Sol look a bit alike.
@@blackpants7385 IT ALL MAKE'S SENSE
Me, i'm in love with Bardock
No one talking about how epic Cooler's B assist damn thing can go through all beams, fires balls and ki blast now that's amazing.
"3 things you should do with assists in Season 3" => Me, a man of culture, using assist to charge level 3 spirit bomb with one assist... :)
why charge manually when you can get 2.25 bars and 3 charges through assist usage
@@DC-ig1og bc people want to use real assists
Great video.
I havent played DBFZ since Season 1 and im really excited now that my boy Frieza is now looking really good!
This patch is the kind of patching SF5 needed tbh. It's a complete face lift to the game and is super refreshing. It's not just a "balance patch" like every game does. its a complete revamp of the engine and it feels so great.
Only stumbled across your channel recently, but your advice really is incredibly good. Other channels are helpful for learning basics, but you teach basic ideas and also really advanced things, and make it all seem simple and approachable. Appreciate the content!
That took away spirit bomb oki and gave it to Bardock's B assist.
What?
What's an oki
oki is a set up after a level 3
Oki is just a setup after a hard knockdown, not a level 3. Like gt goku had good oki after his lvl 3 Bc he had so much time to create a mixup while the opponent was getting up from the hard knockdown. Another example of oki being krillin rock in corner, it’s a setup after a hard knockdown
It's cool if they took away the tracking from Bardock's B assist, but I ain't complaining about that block and hitstun tho 😂
yeah its ultra reactable so you can reflect it for free
Yeah I don't care about the tracking at all, but the blockstun and hitstun are perfect for my mixups and combos.
If they take away the tracking the assist is fine. You can't use it in neutral at all since its hitbox is pretty bad. It will just be good for mixups and combos
Me: Awesome, I should experiment with the characters that I drop before
Also me: *having a character crisis
In the end I'm still using the same character
Dude, picollo's orb assist is one of the best in the game, and that was before it got buffed heavily. His assist is my favorite in the game by far.
Im still gonna have to wait for a actual buff for Jiren
Just_Fulcan don’t think they can if they buff his 214s he would be too powerful in neutral. his neutral is already pretty obnoxious as is
@@ITzAhhMehMardio yeah. You can counter his 214S. So you're countering a counter with a lvl3 or some special move lol, jiren is ridiculous
@@santi3256 *with a vanish
@@El_Chuchuca you can do it but it's better a special move or lvl3 for more damage
Im getting back into dbfz and i am so thankful i found you. I almost gave up but ur content gives me everything I needed to get back into it
Your reasoning now solidifies my Hit C assist, thank you.
Hit C in my opinion is one of the best assists in the game
I'm loving tiens telekinesis assist right now
If you time it perfectly you can set up base goku spirit bomb with it.
@@Shirohige4yonko yh I saw it on dotodoya stream. It looks like it's pretty hard to do tho.
@@whitehairedbadass3475 yeah he got a hard time landing it. But somehow I feel like a pro would have less difficulties landing it.
...just don’t ever use the lvl 3 w/ Chiatzou (or however you spell it)
but yes, the assist is pretty solid
@@GEMINIVice1 yup ide only use that if tien was the last character.
as always so hyped to see a video from you
Great content as always Rath! Love your stuff, keep it up :) Big fan! And also, yeah, i think what they should change about Bardock's B assist is the tracking, like you said, it seems like an accident, but time will tell!
Great video as always, I hope the cooldown time doesn't ruin all of the C assists.
Some corrections I have to make here tho:
Pre-Patch the 3 highest blockstun-assists were Kid Boo, Gotenks and Yamcha (not Base Goku). Vegeta Blue also has more if you count the first part of the move.
16 assist pre-patch was 38f (or 36f), not 50f. It was not that broken, thank god xD
Janemba's demonic blade. Finally a better assist. Haha. That Bardock one is pretty silly. Hope we get more patches then just the one a year. Some assist will be pretty op. Time will tell. Nice vid.
I hope they buff Janemba a little more. A low hitting light, better 2H and a quicker 2M would be nice.
Man his first assist is god like for combo extensions
i appreciate your video, i was really really under utilizing the c-assist
Interesesting video and great background music, thx
The tracking on Bardock assist needs to go. I hope they don't nerf the block/ hitstun tho. It fills the same role as Baseku A assist
Wrong, leave it. I'm wrecking people with a "nerfed" GT goku, b bardock assist, kid buu, they don't even have a chance.
Daniel Thompson the game has bigger issues than that I promise you.
Baseku assist still has less blockstun and I think also less hitstun
Kinda wack
Perfect timing! I've been wondering how to adjust to the new assist cooldown
First thing I thought after a few minutes playing season 3: Man, that Bardock B assist needs to be nerfed AF
@DeadMemes NeedToStayDead
It plays like a C assist, it's too OD,.
Bardock is about to make a big come back
Wrong, leave it.
Kidbuu literally has way more blockstun and is way more broken but ok..
@@chriscastro6449
Kid buu assist has precisely 12 more blockstun frames, wich is not that much.
And it's a lock down type of assist, you cannot use it for every situation.
It particularly sucks in neutral for instance, whereas Bardock B assist is literally good everywhere, and is an absolute "fuck neutral" toy.
But ok...
The assist I mean
What’s the song playing in the background?
I'm not getting all the ruckus around Bardock B assist. There are other B assists that also track on the ground, are faster or have bigger hitboxes.
Gotenks donut tracks even on the air, Kid bu A has enough range and block stun to give mix to everybody, hit's new B assist covers more range faster and gives a wall bounce to confirm, etc, etc
Can you jail ki blasts into normals with any of those assists? And out of that group can you also confirm ki blasts into a full combo with 2M>5M?
Yes you most certainly can with gotenks ki blast call gotenks run up and confirm
They're just complaining because it's Bardock. If Krillin had that everybody would be ecstatic.
Exactly
With bardocks new assist you can play him with so many more characters now. For example Frieza who usually needs beam assist to get the best combos mid screen. Now you can play him with bardock! Anything that adds more options is a good thing kidbuu and gotenks have held heavy block stun assist hostage for the entire time and were they touched? No. It’s time to play other characters with the option of having tools from another
I love Frieza C-assist.😍
Also, Android 18 in season 3 is the queen she needed to be, lol.
Played a lot of 18 at start. Dropped her because of the assist. Might get back into her. She looks good now.
@@paulspruijt2097 Especially with the manual 17 energy wave EX move which is basically an insta-super, she's a whole different beast now. She can self double super!💥
Bro that manual 17 EX call is the most busted thing I’ve seen in S3 so far. I fought a pride trooper 18 player who every time he would get an SKD on me, do the manual 17 EX Call and go for a mix, and I can’t see a damn thing at all because of the explosion. Lmao this season is nutty af 😂
@@tearitup5864 LMFAO! I f*cking love it. DBFZ is spicy AF now.😂
T.K S Lol she dead got hellzone mix now except it’s half a bar for her... ridiculous 😂
Really informative! What do you feel are the best applications of DP assists? I've never really had much success with them when compared to beams, combo extenders, or assists with high hit stun. I'm a little disappointed with the assists they decided to give Gogeta and am trying to determine if there's any point in trying to use his DP assist.
If you skip to the end of the Teen Gohan 101 video I uploaded a while back, I should talk about it a bit and show some examples.
But generally they're really quick, usually have some invul on them, and let you challenge the opponent up close without needing to actually commit to anything dangerous. Just get used to superjumping to confirm the hit on reaction.
They're also really good to use alongside superdash, since they reach so high you can lock the opponent down even when they block your superdash in the air.
*ArcSys not gonna give my man Cell his Rolling Crush as his B assist but give that stupid broken gut punch assist to Bardock???*
Word maybe we will get D assists lmfaooo
For real bro. I was speechless when I saw his B assist was just the second hit of his auto combo. Why give him something that wack when you could've given him rolling crush. Smh
The biggest thing I'm thinking about is using characters who used to have bad assists in anchor, and characters who used to have busted assists on point.
I myself am struggeling to pick an anchor now since everyone has good assists :D
Extremely helpful
love your videos man! keep it up! i have a question though. I play on xbox and the regular and the elite controller dpad both mess with my defense and combos.. because when i press the back button and hold it slightly up or down, the character will either jump or go down. do you have any reccomendations or controllers (custom?) or should i just consider buying a fight stick?
I think you can do well with any type of controller you want (pad, stick, hitbox, etc). If you would prefer a different type of pad, you could look up Brook brand converters which will let you plug in a PlayStation controller into an Xbox or vice versa
Just a little heads up, I've probably played like 1000 hours with the simple XBone controller and, as long as you use the DPad for blocking (I don't do it but I know I should) it really nullifies the badness of the joystick.
How many block frames Vegitto has with the spirit sword assist?
What do you think about the hit changes? I'm gutted 😕😕
Utilizing and timing Assists is still the hardest most difficult challenge for me.
Doesn't kid goku still have lv3 oki?
What about the auto-tracking on square,square,square when u switch sides?
And the super dash frames?
Yes, yes, wdym
COOLER SQUAD
Honestly something I've been trying to lab out a solution to the issue with the stagger nerf because it also makes assists not come back in oki scenarios. I thought maybe I could get away with a C assist with adult Gohan and maybe do something like gogeta level 1>gohan level 1>air DR. Unfortunately you probably can't cover all options on wake up and get your assists back. I can cover up tech and back tech individually with a visually identical setup and get my assists back just not both for some reason.
Yea! I play Ginyu Cooler Frieza! Frieza Force FTW!!
Cooler isn't a part of the frieza force... He is the leader of his own army. They are sibling rivals with Frieza being the chosen heir of King Cold.
Ginyu isnt frieza force either
The ginyu force is a mercenary group that is second strongest with frieza being first. They have contract to work together
@@gabrion6512 check out the wiki. Ginyu force is listed ad frieza force so not really sure where you are pulling that info from
None of that matters. They are the top frieza related characters in the game and frieza is the emperor of the universe. That's close enough for me
Goodnight Rath
You can fully charge goku level 3 spirit ball with some c assists. Then combo into his level three
C assists having this cooldown problem is so stupid.
Some C assists are super shitty and ends up being a non option for a lot of characters.
You got anything to say about Blue Vegeta's assists? I never liked A and B is really underwhelming but maybe you see something in them I don't?
Cooler's b and c assist are really good too
I’m pretty sure Bardock’s B assist is bugged because it’s tracking like a C assist and the patch notes said it would have a follow up on hit but there isn’t a follow up
Hits b assist gets a wall bounce so that's good for ki confirm
Na , i always used piccolo A assist and now its better and more rewarding on combos whit 2 orbs
But i always used it to force some reactions , like force a super dash or force them to trow ki blasts , whatever the reaction is , its forced by that ki blast
Its very good to set traps , just never try to dragon rush or grabs after the blast hits on block , for some reason it wiffs
Bardocks b assist should be a c and have a follow up also they should tone down the block stun slightly
the bardock assist is meant to be that good. theres no reason to nerf the move it's a move that's good on block when hes in play so why wouldnt it be good as an assist???
All C assists that have 2 hits on block are 50f blockstun
A lot of C assist do, but not all.
@@LeoKingdom101 All that have 2 hits are
Wait why is bardcock is an issue if kid buy has 50 frames?
Kid Buus is useless in neutral and in combos(58 frames btw)
Bardock B assist is godlike for neutral, godlike for combos, and godlike for mixups
PhoenixXPhoenix why
The tien paralysis assist is OP
That assist don't reduce a lot the scaled damage??. I mean when you use it while playing tien it happen that, i don't know if it's the same working as an assist
@@santi3256 i play base goku. So having a paralysis assist helps land the spirit ball to spirit bomb combo easily. But you have to very accurate on ur inputs. But yeah these assists made dbfz a whole game
Can we get a frieza vid? With all the new buffs he’s gonna be on a lot of teams as anchor so what do to/General game plan would be awesome 🙏🏽
I always wanted frieza in my team but his assist was ass
Assist was ass? Lol dude, a frieza assist is his best assist
@@bhyacks it didnt go well in my team so I should've phrased that better
His assist has always been the F neutral button idk what crack you were doing the last 2 seasons his assist is great.
C assist actually don't work that well at High hitstun you know what I mean if you play Broly (dbs)
Is it just me or does fighterz feel a little bit heavy
46 FRAMES YES
time for online
Leave my bardock alone 🙏😭
The damage scaling on c assists conversions are ridiculous
In a good way or bad way?
You forgot the most important thing. The 4th.
Not using them.
You look like a slightly less attractive Ryan Gosling
I'll take what I can get
you beautiful man I love you
Isn't bardocks B assist about as good as hits A assist? If Hits A assist was fine dont see how this will be broken.
Hit's A assist doesn't track or have nearly the amount of hitstun or blockstun
I want to play Cell, teen gohan and frieza but frieza is soooooo hard to learn😫
Nah man, I've been playing Frieza for a time and (I'm not a pro or close) his basic combos can be simple enough and a backdash between here snd there is always nice. Also, with the new addition of superdash after vanish it's easier now to do some nice damage after zoning
@@heathenmonk1249 but I want to do more than basic stuff, especially when playing golden frieza
@@pumpingpriest5893 oh well im that sense it is hard. Anyways learning the basics is still really helpful as there are many combos that are hard to drop. Golden Frieza can be used to amplify damage or make way more complex combos, these are hard, but keep on practicing he is a great character (and landing an unexpected grounded lvl 3 is awesome)
@@heathenmonk1249 I intend to land it in combos with the new golden frieza mechanic. You know, since we are able to cancel golden frieza manually now that should be possible
@@heathenmonk1249 which rank and which region are you if I may ask?
You look like Macaulay Culkin
I'm fine with this if it lets me watch movies with the RedLetterMedia guys
Everyone rn omg bardock assist broken 2 months later fuck frieza and hit and all the other broken shit lol
Do not nerf bardocks b assist, buff GT Goku, even though the nerf isn't noticeable, also buff kid buu even more.