Agreed Glock guy here carry 19 for private security work and CCW it every day but damn that's a pretty gun. Can't afford it but when I can I will get one of these
Personally, I loved all berettas. The open barrel, extraction ejection and round in chamber action never gets old. - Timeless Masterpiece in my humbled opinion.
I've been following this channel periodically for several years and I occasionally find my self speaking publicly in the capacity of an instructor. I must say that you have become very competent with a good flow of information, easily understandable, comprehensive and with a nice cadence when presenting your videos. It is not an easy craft, so kudos!
+.40 S&W Fan There isn't a single paid sponsor in the video. However, if you don't like the format of my videos you can also watch someone else's and save yourself the hassle of making silly comments. But of course this is the internet and that's what trolls do. Carry on.
So here is my take on the M9A3. To preface let me point out that I've been an Army grunt for over a decade, combat deployments etc.etc. The only reason I say that is to add some, albeit small, level of credibility to my stance. Also, let me say that this is based solely on my own personal experience. As having carried and trained with the M9 a decent amount, (initially being trained by the Army Marksmanship Unit), I will tell you that the M9 is indeed a good military side arm. It is accurate, rugged, and reliable, there I said it. I did carry it in combat, but thankfully was never forced to use it as that probably would have meant my M4 had shit the bed, or I was out of ammo. I can think of one time drawing my M9 in order to clear a small subterranean structure. However, where the the problems arise with M9s in my experience is two fold. 1) Lack of training. The Army does not properly train soldiers on how to shoot and maintain the pistol. I've recently been to a M9 qualification range and the ways soldiers were shooting and manipulating the gun were hideous ( and this was a company of infantrymen). Not to mention, it doesn't take even an average shooter to be able to qual with the gun. The qualification is a joke honestly. 2) The care and upkeep of the fleet of M9 pistols and magazines currently in use is severely lacking (in my opinion). I have personally used beat up magazines with severely worn out springs and handguns so abused that the sights had chunks of metal missing, very weak springs in the guns, as well as internally having what looked like metal removed from the slide grooves (not sure if that was from wear over time or someone did a hack job on the guns). Having experienced all of this, I have to surmise that many soldiers' personal bias against the gun aside, this is where the stigma of the unreliable M9 comes from. Keep it wiped down, properly maintained, feed it good mags, and the pistol will work fine (from my experience). Here is where I am conflicted on the issue. Now, even though I do enjoy the M9, I would not shy away from a new handgun, IF the Army does it correctly. However, I feel that Tim is right and I would rather see that money be invested elsewhere or not spent at all. That being said, my infantry knees and back aren't getting any younger and the more I wear body armor for long periods, heavy ass rucks for click after click and mile after mile, the less I like to add more weight. For those that don't understand, there was a time before plate carriers, (command dependent generally), that grunts had to wear not only the typical vest with plates, (IBA or IOTV), but also side plates, kevlar dick protectors, kevlar neck protectors, internal and external DAPS, and a small kevlar butt flap. Now combine all of that with your helmet, 10lb rifle, NVGs, ammo, water, ifak, radio, and all the mission essential bells and whistles. If there is ever a time again that I have to execute missions at elevation in some God forsaken mountainous region, it would be a joyous occasion to carry a lighter and even perhaps polymer sidearm if possible. Again, the Army has to do it correctly and that means better training as well. They have made amends with the new camo pattern so I hope they continue the trend with regards to the new pistol.
+WallyMerc06 I think it also has to do with those cheapy Checkmate magazines the Army buys might be causing some of the reliability problems. I've only got to shoot the M9 a handful of times and the ones my unit has have probably been in the inventory since Desert Storm, they're all shot out, my grouping at 15m was the size of the target and I usually consider myself a decent pistol shooter.
+WallyMerc06 I wasn't a grunt in the Army, but an aviation cat. That said my experience was very limited but you hit the nail on the head. Admin range sessions once a year and failure to replace worn parts fueled the undue hate on the M9. I never had a problem with it and it works.
Former US Army M1A1 tanker here. My issue M9 rode, unloaded, in an old .45 shoulder holster. Your point about lack of range time is spot on. Back in the day(early '90s), we qualified once a year and that was it. That said, I liked my M9 so much I finally got one. Very glad I did. They're getting harder to get and more expensive.
Great video. I first carried the S&W .38 when I went into the AF in '87 as a LE specialist. I was really happy when we were issued the M9 in 88. Thanks for the intro about the M9. It brought back a lot of memories.
I purchased a M9A3 1 week ago and love it!! Out of the super cool box ready to go, nothing needed to add and plenty quality to boot. I paid $975.00 out the door at my range. This is a world class pistol in all aspects. The last Berreta M9 I owned was in 1986, I purchased it brand new... 30 years later I own another one and it is phenomenal!!
Why would anyone whine about this being $1000? There are far more expensive handguns without even stepping up to exotic stuff. $1000 seems like a steal for this with Cerekote, 3 mags, etc.. I'm only into Glocks for my defensive handguns but this is the first gun since the Five-Seven that I could really see buying just because it's cool.
I applaud your incredible skill at giving concise, and entertaining (not boring at all) reviews on any firearm you get your hands on! Wonderful channel, sir, thank you for your work!
Tim, very nice review. I enjoy your videos and find them superior to most. You do a very good job of conveying information while minimizing excess verbage and hyperbole. Keep it up.
I want the M9A3 now they are being sold. I have a commercial M9 and a 92fs Compact inox which is my carry gun. Beretta 92fs/M9 has to be my favorite pistol family.
If they quit fucking around and order the fuckers without any BS the GOVT can get them for cheap that is without all the fucking congressional shit, over testing which will end up casting up to 15 times more than needs to be.
remil58 they wouldn’t exactly have to do extensive testing on these considering it’s essentially a tan version of the gun that has worked for them for the last 35 years
I have carried the M9 during my active Army career as well as my post military contracting career in Central Asia and Iraq. Its a fine handgun and I carried it in standard holsters as well as concealed shoulder holsters, Galco. Never had any issues with it and shot very well with it. It was a bit big for the concealed rig but I'm a big guy and not a big deal. I did not know about the plastic trigger in the A2? and I don't care for that at all. I'm old school and hope the replacement is not polymer framed. Yes, I have a Glock and like it but for military durability I think steel and aluminum is best.
People call them plastic triggers, but the newer Beretta triggers are steel inside with polymer molded over the outside. You can check this with a magnet. The safety levers are done the same way. Polymer-on-metal is supposed to have natural lubrication properties that allow the surfaces ro run smoother and wear longer than metal-on-metal. The plastic guide rod was, I believe, a change to the M9 contract requested by the military, which Beretta has added to the commercial 92 models as well. The reason is supposed to be that if you drop an M9 with the slide locked back you can bend or nick a steel guide rod and cause cycling problems. I can't imagine that this is a common or serious issue, but the military asked for it. The plastic guide rod is also fluted to allow sand and debris to escape. I have both kinds and don't care either way.
Sweet !! I got my first Beretta 92FS satin finish 2 high capacity mags . W/cleaning kit in a blue box inside a silver box in 1992 Mine was made in Italy. Can't wait to get this new one !!
Started my military career just before Desert Storm. Retired about 5 years ago. Ran many rounds through many M9s...never a problem. Would've loved to have this one. All the right improvements on a great 9mm. Very thorough video. Thanks!
Excellent, thorough review of the Beretta. I hope the Army finds some way to include this fine pistol into the competition, either as an MHS or an M9 ECP.
The M9/92fs is one of the most beautiful pistols in my opinion. The smaller Beretta pistols also maintain all those nice curves and shapes. Nice Video!
I found the referenced cost statement from Beretta... looks like its the usual case of, "if your tax money isn't paying for the upgrade, your private spending will". Unless there's some unseen cost saving design in the M9A3, which I don't see. I'm guessing that the proposed lower cost is simply a profit cut that would be made up elsewhere, though I don't see how Beretta could expect private handgun sales and accessory/part sales to the military to make up for a profit loss on the main package, seeing as the U.S. military tends to go third party for accessories, and the civilian market isn't exactly gobbling up Beretta's full size service pistols. Maybe the original M9 prices were super inflated, and the M9A3 prices would simply be inflated to a lesser degree?
+Kevin Greenleaf I believe it was more that Beretta quoted the .MIL that they could provide large contract orders of them for the same price or slightly cheaper than the current M9s. It may also have been accounting for retrofit/upgrading costs. If these came standard with normal M9 barrels, they would be $100 cheaper. I'd be surprised if that option doesn't happen in the next year or so.
The big fat military contract Beretta was going to use when it got taxpayer money to finance its commercial gun business and produce cheap commercial guns using the profits from ridiculously expensive military guns didn't pan out.
Excellent and informative review as usual. Dig Beretta's, I'm a "G" man myself. The Military should go with the M9A3, but they have an uncanny need to waste tax payers money for no logical reason. Senator McCain has questioned the military's logic regarding the Joint Combat Pistol Program and is wholeheartedly against it, and I agree.
The handgun is used, issued, and carried by "front line" troops, not just officers and MG crews. I used mine in many situations when fighting in Sadr City in OIF 2.
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding you or you're misunderstanding Tim. He didn't say the M9 is a rear troop weapon he's saying that due to supply line waits and funding issues the new M9A3 would see "use" by command and "rear" troops before Marines (who arguably are the tip of the spear as far as foot movements go) ever got their hands on one. For what it's worth I was Air Force Security Forces and we're the only ones besides Special Forces proper who will see the M17/18 anytime soon in the AF outside said command personnel.
@@REIDAE You obviously have not been inside Iraqi buildings. They are not built to any code and many stairwells and other tight passages make a pistol a better choice. Obviously the rifle is the preferred tool, but it is not always the best one for the task at hand. This is my experience learned from three deployments, please feel free to share yours.
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani I'm 50/50 on this. It's like I don't want all the wind noise since I'm trying to hear what you're saying because I'm listening the opinions and the differences, but I want the boom boom vs the pop pop to hear the difference too.
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani I don't think it is noise cancelling so much as it is a microphone's inability to accurately capture the tremendous volume differences that gunfire produces. No video ever transmits the "full gun sound."
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani It is most probably the built in audio compressor of the camera. To avoid audio distortion, the compressor lower the sounds that exceed a given threshold. The problem is that all the other sound of the video are lowered as well, which gives that annoying silence following the gun shot. I don't know much about cameras, but I doubt you can change the compressor settings that easily.
My buddy has a 92F, one of the nicest firearms I've ever held in hand. I'm no expert, but I just love the way it feels in the grip, and it's a sweet shooter. Also that does look really good with the black barrel and frame....
The Beretta A3 is just a awesome weapon. The problems with the magazines were not Beretta magazines. They were from another company which were cheaper. Would you run low grade gas in a Ferrari? Why would you run a poor mag in such a fine weapon?
Excellent review, I have been wanting a Beretta 92 for a long time, I really like that M9A3 version, and the holster rig You are using is awesome . Thanks for showing these fine handguns. Semper Fi. 🇺🇸
I have had a Beretta 92FS for close to 5 years now and have put several thousand rounds down its pipe. Out of the many 9mm handguns I have played with the 92 is still my favorite, and has honestly had better reliability than anything else I've ever shot. I am not sure why people complain about the grip size, my wife and my mother(both about 5'4", small handed ladies) both enjoy shooting the 92 more than any other handgun we own. Also I have never accidentally hit the safety when racking the slide, but I guess it could theoretically be possible to do? But I am very happy to see the dovetailed front sight, have batted the idea for a long while of getting mine milled.
The 92 is extremely reliable, that was proven in two separate trials. It, like every other weapon, must be maintained to keep that reliability. The government is horrible about that. Even the old 1911's were unreliable at the end of their service life before the M9 was adopted. The government hadn't made new ones since the end of WWII.
I think this might be the first time I have found myself really wanting a 9mm. I have always been a .45ACP man. This pistol wont change that, BUT I think I would like to add it to my collection of U.S. military firearms.
The M9 shoots extreme accurate and never jams. Everybody was the talk about the reliability of glock. A glock don't have Shit on the M9 when it comes true liability
I agree... I shoot ipsc in australia.. I've used a glock 34 about 3 or 4 times.. I got a stovepipe twice out of those times on seperate occasions, so much for glock reliability. The beretta will never stovepipe because of that open slide design.. i would trust my life to the beretta
This guy looks identical to a guy we had working with us (selling firearms). He got fired cause he blocked a customer in a isle told him "you're not leaving unless you buy something" 😂
Cause you can wrap the firing had with more even pressure if you use all four of your support hand fingers on top of them. This also means coverage of the firing hands pinky finger. The other benifit is you can more contact with the grip by the heel of the support hand followed by a better indexing of both thumbs toward the target.
I’m in the marines and my unit uses the original M9, but we’ll be adopting the Sig P320 Compact early next year. I have one myself and personally love it unconditionally
+AK107DX Not true at all. The 92a1 has a frame buffer and m9a1 does not. 92fs/m9 slides will fit onto the 92a1 but not vice versa due to dimensional differences. Also the 92a1 has interchangeable front sights and the M9a1 does not.
On the importance of pistols for the military I see the point and defer to your experience, but even before Fridays events it seems the concepts of "front" and "rear" are kind of becoming irrelevant. With that I'm wondering if pistols might be more important now than in previous times.
I dig the intro music. A buddy of mine that I've known for close to 14 years owns a M9, M9A1 and the 90 two. I personally love the 90 two, it's smooth very easy to use and fun to shoot. In fact it was the first gun I used my first time at a shooting range. It's not too intimidating for beginners and this is just my opinion but once you get the feel for its rhythm, you can fire just about any other pistol except for a magnum revolver. I'm trying to work my way up the ladder to eventually get behind the trigger of the baddest beast of 'em all: the .50 cal M107 semi-auto sniper rifle.
I personally don't like the M9 frame handguns. However, from a reasonable perspective, wasting billions testing and retraining for a new handgun is an absolute waste of money. Baretta has a nice package here, just do the upgrade and save time and money
One thing people don't realize is that Berettas aren't cheap. Yeah, this one might be pretty expensive, but a brand new normal 92fs will still set you back at least 700 bucks compared to 500-550 that a Glock, S&W or XD would be. My Beretta was 700 when I picked it up like 6 years ago. Over 3k rounds later and a lot of her finish coming off the slide, she's still running like a champ with no malfunctions.
I'm a civilian I shoot IPSC , I use a beretta :) And I fucking love it.. never malfunctions, unlike all the open guys racking their 3000 dollar guns haha my dirty old production pistol does fine. The army here are junk they use cheap browning HP copies that are flogged out but they barely train with pistols anyway let alone with their rifles. If theres a war we are fucked we only got 38k army staff.. BUT we have 2 million registered firearm owners and 50 percent would outshoot our army guys anyway since most are target shooters or hunters or competition shooters.. our army gets fuckall trigger time it makes me mad.
i watched this videos 5 minutes after he posted it, and now over a year latter and at least 30 times watching it through i still cannot look at the gun enough and i will not be satisfied untill i own one.
+Matt P Also add in that changing the entire logistics system for the weapon will be very costly. Retraining armourers, printing new manuals, producing all new parts, getting new contractors, etc. etc.. That will far outstrip any minor savings on unit cost.
+Michael StJohn I want the G model too. As soon as I heard 1911 grip and checkered front and back strap, it piqued my interest. Even more so now they want to offer it in the G config. Side note, I do have a P226 as well, got to shoot it about a week ago. And I just love the pistol. No issues so far.
I don't know if you remember talking to me before. I'm glad you got one! My buddy has the 92 stainless and it is one great shooting gun. I wouldn't ever admit it but maybe better than my Extreme 226. I'm really impressed by my P320 as well.
I went from the .45 to the Beretta m9, I love both weapons, when I retired from the military I purchased the M9 for EDC with 4 mags, I know the argument .45 and 9mm, I guess each is on, I do love my m9 even if it's a full service pistol, outstanding video
Beretta M9/92 is a great pistol. Put literally thousands of rounds through one while working overseas. Accurate and reliable. It get's a bad rap sometimes.
Love this video MAC, I've loved the M9 since the 80's as a kid, and I've been looking forward to this latest model in the reviews I will be buying one ASAP. Thanks for what you are doing.
I had a M9A1 in the Marines while in Iraq as a forward fighting Field MP. But Most of the spec ops guys I knew used the 1911 as a sidearm or even one guy I knew used a Mp5 as a sidearm.
Great reveiw , blow back action so much smoother & less muzzle flip than tradional Browning recoil action. Blowback & Rotary barell action a real joy that Beretta is famous for. Thanx. P.S.
thanks for the review, i'm in Australia, here they cost $1870 au dollars and also come with 2 10 rounds mag only.but i must say, thanks to the sights i will buy one now , thanks
I had shot 1911's plenty of times, but in my 18 years in the Army never shot an M9 until my last few years... and hated how fat the M9 grip was. Now that I see that the grip has been slimmed I would actually consider buying one, no doubt it greatly improves handling.
Got a chance to handle one the other day, and I was very impressed. Trigger was .. just DREAMY and MUCH better than a A1 hands down, mag eject/insert was dreamy, grip size was perfect, grip checkering .. perfect, very well balanced, slide to frame fit/finish was outstanding, polished feed ramp, I did notice the coating on the mags VERY NICE... I am used to Sig's and have grown used to the Sig decocker location, that's really the only personal negative I had about the pistol. It's next on my get list.
Some are complaining when you shoot steel targets? WTF-O? Shoot your steel! I like the satisfying clang and it lets the viewer know you/the firearm you are operating are on target.
Love the M9A3 mainly because back in 2002 I bought it's Father the Vertec. Same platform just a different color now. I carried my Vertec 96 with the Sheriff's Dept and still have it today. If I had to have only one gun,,,,Vertec or this M9A3 is the one I want. They discontinued the Vertec quite a few years ago but because of this A3, the Vertec is back. Thanks Beretta.
I adore my Glocks, but that new A3 variant is one of the best looking pistols I have ever seen. I think I'm going to buy my first Berretta now.
Same man bouta cheat on glock
Enjoy that Beretta my brother.
Agreed Glock guy here carry 19 for private security work and CCW it every day but damn that's a pretty gun. Can't afford it but when I can I will get one of these
It shoots really nice.
I adore my glocks and my Caniks but I just picked up this Beretta and it’s a must have!
Personally, I loved all berettas. The open barrel, extraction ejection and round in chamber action never gets old.
- Timeless Masterpiece in my humbled opinion.
It’s also made to function with one hand.. one feature I love is how easy it is to lock back and load one into the chamber with one hand easy
I've been following this channel periodically for several years and I occasionally find my self speaking publicly in the capacity of an instructor. I must say that you have become very competent with a good flow of information, easily understandable, comprehensive and with a nice cadence when presenting your videos. It is not an easy craft, so kudos!
Thank you!
+trefod 24 minutes, clean concise message with paid sponsors sounds like Sportsman Channel material.
+.40 S&W Fan There isn't a single paid sponsor in the video. However, if you don't like the format of my videos you can also watch someone else's and save yourself the hassle of making silly comments. But of course this is the internet and that's what trolls do. Carry on.
I own a super RARE all black Italian made M9a3.
One of my best pistols, I ever owned. ❤️
I love how your video's are a perfect blend of information, history, aesthetics, other facts, and actual shooting, accuracy, durability, etc.
One of the nicest looking guns to come out for awhile. I want one.
So here is my take on the M9A3. To preface let me point out that I've been an Army grunt for over a decade, combat deployments etc.etc. The only reason I say that is to add some, albeit small, level of credibility to my stance. Also, let me say that this is based solely on my own personal experience. As having carried and trained with the M9 a decent amount, (initially being trained by the Army Marksmanship Unit), I will tell you that the M9 is indeed a good military side arm. It is accurate, rugged, and reliable, there I said it. I did carry it in combat, but thankfully was never forced to use it as that probably would have meant my M4 had shit the bed, or I was out of ammo. I can think of one time drawing my M9 in order to clear a small subterranean structure. However, where the the problems arise with M9s in my experience is two fold. 1) Lack of training. The Army does not properly train soldiers on how to shoot and maintain the pistol. I've recently been to a M9 qualification range and the ways soldiers were shooting and manipulating the gun were hideous ( and this was a company of infantrymen). Not to mention, it doesn't take even an average shooter to be able to qual with the gun. The qualification is a joke honestly. 2) The care and upkeep of the fleet of M9 pistols and magazines currently in use is severely lacking (in my opinion). I have personally used beat up magazines with severely worn out springs and handguns so abused that the sights had chunks of metal missing, very weak springs in the guns, as well as internally having what looked like metal removed from the slide grooves (not sure if that was from wear over time or someone did a hack job on the guns). Having experienced all of this, I have to surmise that many soldiers' personal bias against the gun aside, this is where the stigma of the unreliable M9 comes from. Keep it wiped down, properly maintained, feed it good mags, and the pistol will work fine (from my experience). Here is where I am conflicted on the issue. Now, even though I do enjoy the M9, I would not shy away from a new handgun, IF the Army does it correctly. However, I feel that Tim is right and I would rather see that money be invested elsewhere or not spent at all. That being said, my infantry knees and back aren't getting any younger and the more I wear body armor for long periods, heavy ass rucks for click after click and mile after mile, the less I like to add more weight. For those that don't understand, there was a time before plate carriers, (command dependent generally), that grunts had to wear not only the typical vest with plates, (IBA or IOTV), but also side plates, kevlar dick protectors, kevlar neck protectors, internal and external DAPS, and a small kevlar butt flap. Now combine all of that with your helmet, 10lb rifle, NVGs, ammo, water, ifak, radio, and all the mission essential bells and whistles. If there is ever a time again that I have to execute missions at elevation in some God forsaken mountainous region, it would be a joyous occasion to carry a lighter and even perhaps polymer sidearm if possible. Again, the Army has to do it correctly and that means better training as well. They have made amends with the new camo pattern so I hope they continue the trend with regards to the new pistol.
Thank you for your post and your service.
My pleasure. Thank you Tim for your service as well as your work and the MAC crew in getting good information out to us. It's greatly appreciated.
+WallyMerc06 I think it also has to do with those cheapy Checkmate magazines the Army buys might be causing some of the reliability problems. I've only got to shoot the M9 a handful of times and the ones my unit has have probably been in the inventory since Desert Storm, they're all shot out, my grouping at 15m was the size of the target and I usually consider myself a decent pistol shooter.
Kennard Lang Could very well be those mags. I too have seen some beat up M9s. Perhaps it's a testament to the design that they still function?
+WallyMerc06 I wasn't a grunt in the Army, but an aviation cat. That said my experience was very limited but you hit the nail on the head. Admin range sessions once a year and failure to replace worn parts fueled the undue hate on the M9. I never had a problem with it and it works.
Former US Army M1A1 tanker here. My issue M9 rode, unloaded, in an old .45 shoulder holster. Your point about lack of range time is spot on. Back in the day(early '90s), we qualified once a year and that was it. That said, I liked my M9 so much I finally got one. Very glad I did. They're getting harder to get and more expensive.
I still have my original 92F, made in Italy, from the mid-80's.
Great video. I first carried the S&W .38 when I went into the AF in '87 as a LE specialist. I was really happy when we were issued the M9 in 88. Thanks for the intro about the M9. It brought back a lot of memories.
First off, folks that complain about the price should remember almost all of Sig's guns start in the $900-$1100 range so that doesn't seem bad at all.
I purchased a M9A3 1 week ago and love it!! Out of the super cool box ready to go, nothing needed to add and plenty quality to boot. I paid $975.00 out the door at my range. This is a world class pistol in all aspects. The last Berreta M9 I owned was in 1986, I purchased it brand new... 30 years later I own another one and it is phenomenal!!
Why would anyone whine about this being $1000? There are far more expensive handguns without even stepping up to exotic stuff. $1000 seems like a steal for this with Cerekote, 3 mags, etc.. I'm only into Glocks for my defensive handguns but this is the first gun since the Five-Seven that I could really see buying just because it's cool.
I loved the M9, I still do, pure metal with the exception of the grip panels.
The A3 is an extraordinary gun. Smoothest action I think I've ever run on a pistol. Feels like the slide is on ball bearings. Mine does, at least.
I agree. My wife who has trouble racking the slide on my P10C and FN509 has no problem doing so with my M9A3...
I applaud your incredible skill at giving concise, and entertaining (not boring at all) reviews on any firearm you get your hands on! Wonderful channel, sir, thank you for your work!
Tim, very nice review. I enjoy your videos and find them superior to most. You do a very good job of conveying information while minimizing excess verbage and hyperbole. Keep it up.
+Patrick Kelly Thanks a bunch.
Isis could of ate those bullets
This is why I love this channel. Not only is it fun and good info in all the videos but occasionally I get a history lesson
a Beretta with a can on it. makes me want to watch the boondock saints.
I love this gun Beretta 92's are one of my favorite 9mm's ever.
I want the M9A3 now they are being sold. I have a commercial M9 and a 92fs Compact inox which is my carry gun. Beretta 92fs/M9 has to be my favorite pistol family.
Black frame with FDE slide looks easily the best. I would love that config.
+cokedaz I liked it too.
+cokedaz So just wait to buy an M9A3 slide! That's what I will have to do since I live in Cali, and a threaded barrel on a handgun is evil.
+cokedaz And you put some FDE grips on it, it would look slick.
Of all the M9s there are, this is the one I want. Hands down.
Weebs shouldn't be able to get guns with the new gun control law they supposed to do mental health checks
Thank you for putting narration over the shooting footage. I wish all of the demonstrations on RUclips did that.
Officer riggs would love it :)
Those slo-mo shots are gorgeous! Love seeing the slide move back and forth.
That hybrid did look hot...and I also agree changing the handgun right now is a stupid idea only done to give away tax dollars.
If they quit fucking around and order the fuckers without any BS the GOVT can get them for cheap that is without all the fucking congressional shit, over testing which will end up casting up to 15 times more than needs to be.
so you are saying no testing standards for a military pistol.
remil58 Who said that?
I made my own to save money. Mine holds 75 rounds and has a built on suppression system.
remil58 they wouldn’t exactly have to do extensive testing on these considering it’s essentially a tan version of the gun that has worked for them for the last 35 years
Classic MAC review. The M9A3 is a good looking pistol. Thanks, Tim.
I have carried the M9 during my active Army career as well as my post military contracting career in Central Asia and Iraq. Its a fine handgun and I carried it in standard holsters as well as concealed shoulder holsters, Galco. Never had any issues with it and shot very well with it. It was a bit big for the concealed rig but I'm a big guy and not a big deal. I did not know about the plastic trigger in the A2? and I don't care for that at all. I'm old school and hope the replacement is not polymer framed. Yes, I have a Glock and like it but for military durability I think steel and aluminum is best.
Thank you also for your post, and for your service. I agree, the M9 is a very serviceable firearm.
People call them plastic triggers, but the newer Beretta triggers are steel inside with polymer molded over the outside. You can check this with a magnet. The safety levers are done the same way. Polymer-on-metal is supposed to have natural lubrication properties that allow the surfaces ro run smoother and wear longer than metal-on-metal.
The plastic guide rod was, I believe, a change to the M9 contract requested by the military, which Beretta has added to the commercial 92 models as well. The reason is supposed to be that if you drop an M9 with the slide locked back you can bend or nick a steel guide rod and cause cycling problems. I can't imagine that this is a common or serious issue, but the military asked for it. The plastic guide rod is also fluted to allow sand and debris to escape. I have both kinds and don't care either way.
pixelpanache i have a polymer coated plastic aluminum fluted guide rod that is captured with polymer on springs
Sweet !! I got my first Beretta 92FS satin finish 2 high capacity mags . W/cleaning kit in a blue box inside a silver box in 1992 Mine was made in Italy. Can't wait to get this new one !!
Just got mine, love it and great quality $819.
Started my military career just before Desert Storm. Retired about 5 years ago. Ran many rounds through many M9s...never a problem. Would've loved to have this one. All the right improvements on a great 9mm.
Very thorough video. Thanks!
thanks for the video! and we need that hearing protection act.
Air Force guy here. Carried one daily for my 21 years and became very familiar with it so, when I retired I bought one for my personal weapon.
You're killing me Tim! I haven't got mine yet....
+Mrgunsngear Channel +1 to that ;-)
+Military Arms Channel is it possible to place some Taurus PT92 parts in TBD M9A3?
+FlamingxRemix *the
+FlamingxRemix good God, why.
Now timmy you have to share your toys with the rest of youtube lol
Excellent, thorough review of the Beretta. I hope the Army finds some way to include this fine pistol into the competition, either as an MHS or an M9 ECP.
Don't forget us tankers! Our Primary weapon is a handgun. Great video!!!
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I was a tanker too and the M9 was my every day buddy, it’s a fine weapon and looks sexy.
The M9/92fs is one of the most beautiful pistols in my opinion. The smaller Beretta pistols also maintain all those nice curves and shapes. Nice Video!
beretta original statement was the a3 was going to come to market cheaper than the a1 what happened to that
Sounds like a ridiculous claim to make. Was the press release on April 1st?
I found the referenced cost statement from Beretta... looks like its the usual case of, "if your tax money isn't paying for the upgrade, your private spending will". Unless there's some unseen cost saving design in the M9A3, which I don't see. I'm guessing that the proposed lower cost is simply a profit cut that would be made up elsewhere, though I don't see how Beretta could expect private handgun sales and accessory/part sales to the military to make up for a profit loss on the main package, seeing as the U.S. military tends to go third party for accessories, and the civilian market isn't exactly gobbling up Beretta's full size service pistols. Maybe the original M9 prices were super inflated, and the M9A3 prices would simply be inflated to a lesser degree?
+Kevin Greenleaf I believe it was more that Beretta quoted the .MIL that they could provide large contract orders of them for the same price or slightly cheaper than the current M9s. It may also have been accounting for retrofit/upgrading costs.
If these came standard with normal M9 barrels, they would be $100 cheaper. I'd be surprised if that option doesn't happen in the next year or so.
Ya...they would sell to the military cheaper,,BUT sense the military doesn't want them...there$1000.00 for you or me!!!!!,,,,fuck that
The big fat military contract Beretta was going to use when it got taxpayer money to finance its commercial gun business and produce cheap commercial guns using the profits from ridiculously expensive military guns didn't pan out.
Excellent and informative review as usual. Dig Beretta's, I'm a "G" man myself. The Military should go with the M9A3, but they have an uncanny need to waste tax payers money for no logical reason. Senator McCain has questioned the military's logic regarding the Joint Combat Pistol Program and is wholeheartedly against it, and I agree.
The handgun is used, issued, and carried by "front line" troops, not just officers and MG crews. I used mine in many situations when fighting in Sadr City in OIF 2.
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding you or you're misunderstanding Tim. He didn't say the M9 is a rear troop weapon he's saying that due to supply line waits and funding issues the new M9A3 would see "use" by command and "rear" troops before Marines (who arguably are the tip of the spear as far as foot movements go) ever got their hands on one. For what it's worth I was Air Force Security Forces and we're the only ones besides Special Forces proper who will see the M17/18 anytime soon in the AF outside said command personnel.
its issued to and carried by "frontline troops", but they also have rifles so it wont really see use
@@REIDAE You obviously have not been inside Iraqi buildings. They are not built to any code and many stairwells and other tight passages make a pistol a better choice. Obviously the rifle is the preferred tool, but it is not always the best one for the task at hand. This is my experience learned from three deployments, please feel free to share yours.
last time that I used one of this. Over 26 year's. I miss my 92 FS. Great video....
Turn off noise cancelling pls so i can hear the full gun sound
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani YES!
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani I'm 50/50 on this. It's like I don't want all the wind noise since I'm trying to hear what you're saying because I'm listening the opinions and the differences, but I want the boom boom vs the pop pop to hear the difference too.
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani Glad I'm not the only one who thought it sounded weird.
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani I don't think it is noise cancelling so much as it is a microphone's inability to accurately capture the tremendous volume differences that gunfire produces. No video ever transmits the "full gun sound."
+Ala-eddine el ouazzani It is most probably the built in audio compressor of the camera. To avoid audio distortion, the compressor lower the sounds that exceed a given threshold. The problem is that all the other sound of the video are lowered as well, which gives that annoying silence following the gun shot.
I don't know much about cameras, but I doubt you can change the compressor settings that easily.
My buddy has a 92F, one of the nicest firearms I've ever held in hand. I'm no expert, but I just love the way it feels in the grip, and it's a sweet shooter.
Also that does look really good with the black barrel and frame....
Nothing out there’s like a Beretta...
I am huge Beretta fan. This is great handgun with excellent options. Good video, thanks for the review.
The Beretta A3 is just a awesome weapon. The problems with the magazines were not Beretta magazines. They were from another company which were cheaper. Would you run low grade gas in a Ferrari? Why would you run a poor mag in such a fine weapon?
Those M9s were oftentimes poorly maintained and run into the ground too
Excellent review, I have been wanting a Beretta 92 for a long time, I really like that M9A3 version, and the holster rig You are using is awesome . Thanks for showing these fine handguns. Semper Fi. 🇺🇸
My ex-wife was a de-cocker.
Fugue State 🤣🤣🤣
Fugue State
Lol.
+ 1 I'm in that club as well... 😒
Married to Laurena Bobbit?
I have had a Beretta 92FS for close to 5 years now and have put several thousand rounds down its pipe. Out of the many 9mm handguns I have played with the 92 is still my favorite, and has honestly had better reliability than anything else I've ever shot. I am not sure why people complain about the grip size, my wife and my mother(both about 5'4", small handed ladies) both enjoy shooting the 92 more than any other handgun we own. Also I have never accidentally hit the safety when racking the slide, but I guess it could theoretically be possible to do? But I am very happy to see the dovetailed front sight, have batted the idea for a long while of getting mine milled.
The 92 is extremely reliable, that was proven in two separate trials. It, like every other weapon, must be maintained to keep that reliability. The government is horrible about that. Even the old 1911's were unreliable at the end of their service life before the M9 was adopted. The government hadn't made new ones since the end of WWII.
I think this might be the first time I have found myself really wanting a 9mm. I have always been a .45ACP man. This pistol wont change that, BUT I think I would like to add it to my collection of U.S. military firearms.
And thats the only reason there is to buy a used military M9.
9mm is the greatest of all compromises
PeaceManBro No it isn't. And no one cares what you have to say...
TheTyrial86 Haha! Ok, feelin salty today??
PeaceManBro You didn't get the hint??
It’s so cool to see the bullet fragments hit the leaves under the steel targets.
I need one in my life!!
Thank you for this video and your service, I've been trying to collect Beretta pistols and the M9A3 is the next one I'm about to get.
The M9 shoots extreme accurate and never jams. Everybody was the talk about the reliability of glock. A glock don't have Shit on the M9 when it comes true liability
I agree... I shoot ipsc in australia.. I've used a glock 34 about 3 or 4 times.. I got a stovepipe twice out of those times on seperate occasions, so much for glock reliability. The beretta will never stovepipe because of that open slide design.. i would trust my life to the beretta
Beautiful Italian! That holster is pretty nifty too!
Great vid Tim, thx!
This guy looks identical to a guy we had working with us (selling firearms). He got fired cause he blocked a customer in a isle told him "you're not leaving unless you buy something" 😂
Great review MAC! Looks like a sweet pistol. The changes are enough to where I'd probably pull the trigger on the M9A3
Tim I swear the MC Nomad in Ghost Recon Wildlands was based on you.
That is... incredibly quiet. I was looking into this gun as a new pistol, and just so happen I watch your channel a lot. Great review!
Why is wrapping the supporting index finger around the trigger guard no longer popular
Cause you can wrap the firing had with more even pressure if you use all four of your support hand fingers on top of them. This also means coverage of the firing hands pinky finger. The other benifit is you can more contact with the grip by the heel of the support hand followed by a better indexing of both thumbs toward the target.
If there was an advantage to it in controlling the pistol, you;d see USPSA pros doing it...and they do not. Ergo, it is useless... :)
I will now pick up my first M9A3. Thank you Tim well done!
please review the "Beretta PX4 Storm"!
I’m in the marines and my unit uses the original M9, but we’ll be adopting the Sig P320 Compact early next year. I have one myself and personally love it unconditionally
What happened to the M9A2?
+Jacob Jedrol Well you see, that's a secret.
+AK107DX Not true at all. The 92a1 has a frame buffer and m9a1 does not. 92fs/m9 slides will fit onto the 92a1 but not vice versa due to dimensional differences. Also the 92a1 has interchangeable front sights and the M9a1 does not.
+Jacob Jedrol M9A2 was an upgrade kit to be added to existing M9s in inventory.
The same thing that happened to Windows 9
Military trials drama aside, it looks like Beretta did a great job with this pistol. Loved the video. Thanks!
On the importance of pistols for the military I see the point and defer to your experience, but even before Fridays events it seems the concepts of "front" and "rear" are kind of becoming irrelevant. With that I'm wondering if pistols might be more important now than in previous times.
Thats a good fucking point.
Yep, I want one. I only hope it's not too late.
hasn't dropped at all lol. i bought one brand new this afternoon.
I bought one about a year ago brand new G model for $749
I got mine almost a year ago... This is amazing... Easy full auto 😉
I dig the intro music. A buddy of mine that I've known for close to 14 years owns a M9, M9A1 and the 90 two. I personally love the 90 two, it's smooth very easy to use and fun to shoot. In fact it was the first gun I used my first time at a shooting range. It's not too intimidating for beginners and this is just my opinion but once you get the feel for its rhythm, you can fire just about any other pistol except for a magnum revolver. I'm trying to work my way up the ladder to eventually get behind the trigger of the baddest beast of 'em all: the .50 cal M107 semi-auto sniper rifle.
I personally don't like the M9 frame handguns. However, from a reasonable perspective, wasting billions testing and retraining for a new handgun is an absolute waste of money. Baretta has a nice package here, just do the upgrade and save time and money
You can actually hear the spent brass tumbling in the leaves, suppressors are wonderful😊
Does the M9A3 have a metal guiderod?
Jessi Taylor no
I have a 92fs and now I want the A3. It looks sick
$1100 EEEPPP! Nice gun though.
I found it online for around $950
+luvfreedom thats still kinda steep in my eyes
+HunterXray That is what my 92SB goes for here in a store, they are hard to get
One thing people don't realize is that Berettas aren't cheap. Yeah, this one might be pretty expensive, but a brand new normal 92fs will still set you back at least 700 bucks compared to 500-550 that a Glock, S&W or XD would be. My Beretta was 700 when I picked it up like 6 years ago. Over 3k rounds later and a lot of her finish coming off the slide, she's still running like a champ with no malfunctions.
850 online now. :)
Awesome video Tim, I loved all the great camera angles you got of the gun while shooting.
Us Australians get buy just fine with the hi power
More like lo power. Jkjk
And u idiots have junk pistols that no one even shoots or trains on and no civilian market to shoot to
I'm a civilian I shoot IPSC , I use a beretta :)
And I fucking love it.. never malfunctions, unlike all the open guys racking their 3000 dollar guns haha my dirty old production pistol does fine. The army here are junk they use cheap browning HP copies that are flogged out but they barely train with pistols anyway let alone with their rifles. If theres a war we are fucked we only got 38k army staff.. BUT we have 2 million registered firearm owners and 50 percent would outshoot our army guys anyway since most are target shooters or hunters or competition shooters.. our army gets fuckall trigger time it makes me mad.
i watched this videos 5 minutes after he posted it, and now over a year latter and at least 30 times watching it through i still cannot look at the gun enough and i will not be satisfied untill i own one.
PS: That "war belt" is starting to look a little like a girdle. You might want to lay off the glutens. :)
Shut up fatass. You should lay off the McDonalds.
The whole gluten thing is a snowflake conspiracy theory - humanity wouldn't have survived without wheat (gluten).
Pussy
TheYankeeMarshal im from wv like you are and embarrassment to us
You're a fat fuck too. Pot calling the kettle black. Porky.
love your videos, even though they are long, i always end up watching the whole thing
Sig P226 mk 25 is $200 cheaper lol
+Matt P I don't think Uncle Sam pays full retail.
+Matt P Also add in that changing the entire logistics system for the weapon will be very costly. Retraining armourers, printing new manuals, producing all new parts, getting new contractors, etc. etc.. That will far outstrip any minor savings on unit cost.
+Matt P as a SIG guy that owns 7 of their pistols, I will own a M9A3 G model...
+Michael StJohn I want the G model too. As soon as I heard 1911 grip and checkered front and back strap, it piqued my interest. Even more so now they want to offer it in the G config. Side note, I do have a P226 as well, got to shoot it about a week ago. And I just love the pistol. No issues so far.
I don't know if you remember talking to me before. I'm glad you got one! My buddy has the 92 stainless and it is one great shooting gun. I wouldn't ever admit it but maybe better than my Extreme 226. I'm really impressed by my P320 as well.
Just bought mine yesterday and its on its way! I am so excited about it since it was so hard to come by.
I went from the .45 to the Beretta m9, I love both weapons, when I retired from the military I purchased the M9 for EDC with 4 mags, I know the argument .45 and 9mm, I guess each is on, I do love my m9 even if it's a full service pistol, outstanding video
I found one! I just bought one and it is super nice. Thanks for this video Tim.
Beretta M9/92 is a great pistol. Put literally thousands of rounds through one while working overseas. Accurate and reliable. It get's a bad rap sometimes.
The best thing about being issued a pistol in the army was that I didn't have to carry my M4 when I was on the FOB.
Great video and great job on explanation of variations. Thank you Sir
Glad they finally went with the modular front sight.
Love this video MAC, I've loved the M9 since the 80's as a kid, and I've been looking forward to this latest model in the reviews I will be buying one ASAP. Thanks for what you are doing.
I took the Hogue grip and put it on my 96 Vertec, because it kicks like a mule. Now I have two awesome Beretta's in my collection.
I had a M9A1 in the Marines while in Iraq as a forward fighting Field MP. But Most of the spec ops guys I knew used the 1911 as a sidearm or even one guy I knew used a Mp5 as a sidearm.
Hey, that two tone FDE/black configuration does look pretty sharp. Great overview as always. This is on my list.
Great reveiw , blow back action so much smoother & less muzzle flip than tradional Browning recoil action. Blowback & Rotary barell action a real joy that Beretta is famous for. Thanx. P.S.
thanks for the review, i'm in Australia, here they cost $1870 au dollars and also come with 2 10 rounds mag only.but i must say, thanks to the sights i will buy one now , thanks
My favorite pistol. It always got the job done. Never had a jam or other malfunction with it.
I had shot 1911's plenty of times, but in my 18 years in the Army never shot an M9 until my last few years... and hated how fat the M9 grip was. Now that I see that the grip has been slimmed I would actually consider buying one, no doubt it greatly improves handling.
Got a chance to handle one the other day, and I was very impressed. Trigger was .. just DREAMY and MUCH better than a A1 hands down, mag eject/insert was dreamy, grip size was perfect, grip checkering .. perfect, very well balanced, slide to frame fit/finish was outstanding, polished feed ramp, I did notice the coating on the mags VERY NICE... I am used to Sig's and have grown used to the Sig decocker location, that's really the only personal negative I had about the pistol. It's next on my get list.
Some are complaining when you shoot steel targets? WTF-O? Shoot your steel! I like the satisfying clang and it lets the viewer know you/the firearm you are operating are on target.
ordered one through the exchange here at one of the military bases near me. CANNOT WAIT!!
Love the M9A3 mainly because back in 2002 I bought it's Father the Vertec. Same platform just a different color now. I carried my Vertec 96 with the Sheriff's Dept and still have it today. If I had to have only one gun,,,,Vertec or this M9A3 is the one I want. They discontinued the Vertec quite a few years ago but because of this A3, the Vertec is back. Thanks Beretta.