Same here. I just got back into playing guitar and can't find my SM57. I used to have a Laney VC30 that I loved but sold it cause I needed the money. I now have a Crate V50 with a 12" inch Marshall extension cab. I'm gonna get an SM57 and hopefully find that other one. Time to go back into experimenting with sounds :-)
Hi Friends, I hope you're doing marvellously well! Thank you so much for all of the positive feedback on Tuesday's Rock Production video! Some of you have asked me to do more Rock production and recording tutorials. Well... ask and you shall receive! ;-) We're back with our Recording Connection apprentice Alex, and this time we're digging deeper into recording electric guitars. Heavy guitars are extremely full sounds, covering almost the entire frequency spectrum. So the frequency response of the microphones your choose and how you place them can greatly help to shape your sound. In this tutorial, we're shooting out three different kinds of microphones: Ribbons, Condensers and a good old SM57, as well as combinations of all of them to see how they affect our guitar tone. You'll learn a special miking technique you can use to add more fullness to your guitars and I'm also sharing one of my favorite amp and cabinet combos I've recently discovered! hope you enjoy it. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The Lewitt on it's own is almost spot on early AC/DC in my opinion. Great sounding mic. Don't know how it would sound like in the mix, but when you solo it sounds great!
Hey Warren, I love watching your vids everyday at home in the morning and at work (when I should be working haha). Keep up the good work...LOOOVE the interviews, especially the one with Joe Baressi!
Thanks very much Mike! I really appreciate it! Yes, the interview I did with Joe was one of my favourites! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Watch all your videos Warren and I have to say this is one of the best (always have trouble recording a good guitar tone). Would love to see a video on recording fuzz guitar.
Thank you very much for taking the time to show us the process of recording an amp, as someone who is interested in doing this in the future with an sm57 I found this very valuable!
Hey Warren. I didn't you played guitar so well. I'm impressed! the 57's just do it everytime. The polarity flip for front and back mics was very informative. I will experiment with this asap. Thanks so much.
Tried one of these Revstar guitars about 6 months ago. Absolutely amazing build quality and playability for the money. Quite a nice alternative to a Les Paul at a great price. A bit thinner and brighter, but I’m not averse to that.
ok... as soon as i heard sm57 front and back I jumped to the comment section, and... yes we all feel the same. Its amazing how good this mic sound, would believe it
I think you got the sweetest of the line there. The exact model I was eying. Do you find much difference in monitoring/choosing your guitar sound with speaker choice, that is, between the little desk top Genelecs and the big console Genelecs?
Great sounds, Warren. That's one of my favourite combos to use too, the 57 (or sometimes an SM7B) and a Ribbon, depending on what's on hand. All the combinations sounded like they'd have their use, just depending on the song and sound you're chasing.
Great show Warren. Im really curious about the tone Tubby cab and the Winterland speaker combination. Are you using a 100 watt head through a 30 watt 8 ohm speaker? what is the combination? Im probably going to get a 1 12 cab but I'm not sure if I will blow the 30 watt speaker or if they come in a higher range. Naturally I would not be playing anywhere near full volume. It sounds great on your video. Kind Regards
Hi Jack, the Tone Tubby cab is 12inch 30 watt Winterland and I love it! I'm tracking fairly hot and haven;t yet blown it with my JMP100 watt! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks for your videos, they are inspiring for me. I understand that it is subjective but still interested in you opinion. At what price point of the mic/guitar amp it is worth to start using mics instead of plugins to record guitar/ bass? In other words should I spend $300 on gear or should I wait and spend $1000 since plugins will work better than $300 setup? Thanks
Are the recording peak levels shown when you are listning to mics what you would normaly record at? Do you find when you go to mix your track levels are good for plugins and your master buss is at a good level (NOT Peaking) ?
Hi Shawn, I do record relatively hot compared with people who have grown up on the digital age. You definitely can record a little lower of it makes you feel more comfortable. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Warren, Cool video and interesting little Tone Tubby speaker cab, a few years back I took one of my Celestion speakers out of my Marshall 4x12 cabinet and built a small monitor type of speaker cab I could use on stage, then I decided to create a big snuff type box I could put the monitor into and place a 57 in there, this way I could crank up my Marshall JCM 800 and run it through the monitor at high volume but not wake up the wife and kids because the snuff box kept things down to a low rumble only noticeable in the same room, it actually worked out pretty well and once you have you 57 mic placement right it's sort of permanent placement! Ciao, ALDO
Thanks for the great tip Aldo! I'm in separate building from my family, but I understand the noise issues! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Watch your master fader, you were clippin'! Thanks for sharing. Are you a fan of using an SM57 with an MD 421? I'm thinking of trying that for my band's next recording session. I love the idea of using another SM57 on the back of the cab. I'm totally going to do that.
Hi Carter, haha definitely wasn't clipping the master fader! The signal was going through the Master Bus of the SSL! Yes, the back 57 is a great way to add low mids! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey warren great video, I see in a lot of you videos your siting at that small desk, I'm guessing your using the small Genelec monitors?, do you do alot of mixing on them? How are they?
Hey Warren. Thanks so much for all your tips! What has been your experience with the Andy Jonhs aproach to amp micing? 1 sm57 directly on the cone, 1 sm57 same position 45 degrees off cone: the direct controlling hi frequencies. The 45 degree controlling low frequencies?
Hi bo, I've tried that! It's very interesting! Not for me, I found it a little 'cloudy' I love the direct micing approach myself! However whatever works best for you is definitely the way to go! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I believe your right. The mic in front: the mic in back of the amp: equall in distance. with polarity flipped (on back mic) will give the best tone for any situation or style of music. I intend to experiment with your aproach asap. Thanks so much.
speaker diaphragm movement to the front mic is inversely proportional to the rear mic . when the diaphragm moves to the side of the front microphone, it moves away from the back microphone and vice versa. is it a physical polarity reversing ? i mean the polarity is reversed by the position , and flipping one of sm57 polarity you will get the same phase from both .
Hi Pua, great question! I have a full Electric Guitar Recording Playlist here:- ruclips.net/p/PLnLOmVwRMCqSiCElWzTVFsmbViXR-x3VV Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
That was brief. The precise placement of the front 57 can yield a full sound, its a bright mic and can be tweaked for realism. I would have warmed it to the side a bit. I am pretty much deaf, and have no trained ear, so this is my opine. To get them even more believable, I end up pushing the mic pre, adding input and reducing output for color. Now we have a bone dry noise, that still lacks in room feel. Massive sounds can be improved with the room mic, and post reverbs and delays. If memory serves me, a single 57 is what many engineers credit, so I have limited myself to that train of thought. What a drag, frustrating and disappointing, but eventually that sweet spot is discovered. Dyna-mount looks appealing, but I have too many channels going to pay the $$$$ for them. The amp-gains I use are always maxed, where the distortion is generated, the power sections are level matched, so not every amp is wide open. They are matched to the quietest amp I have, which is wide open, the 16ohm output reduces the db and the others are lowered to match. The preamps output levels are what determine the final db level, which is actually quite low, otherwise I would blow the doors off of my neighbors. The db levels I use are loud enough to get the speakers screaming and the cabs humming, basically what you would use in room. I used the room within a room concept and enclosed them in a multi lined chamber, 7 amps, 10 speakers, which can cross bleed so I use them mono or two channel hard panned. A side benefit of the chamber is the cats can't get in there and bump the mics, everything stays where I put it. As a very last resort I will use the outboard EQ after the preamp, I only have 2ch of it, but the 2-400 range and the 10-15k ranges are effective at returning us to in-room feel. All of this, a simulation of the wonderful experience being within firing range of rock and roll guitars. I regret my Eventide blew a fuse, and Amazon has new ones coming today, I can't wait to roll camera. You, Warren, are very inspiring.
Great comment! Yes, the mic was slightly to the outside of the cone so it was a little warmer, plus of course the rear 57 adds some great lows! Definitely, room mics are an amazing way to bring space and size to a guitar sound! I love being able to use just one or two guitar parts, drums, bass and a vocal and hearing the rooms of everything! I would very interested to see what you record! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Hi MatChr, yes indeed! Many of my mix breakdown videos show this! Check out this Playlist here:- ruclips.net/p/PLnLOmVwRMCqSZK-JJeiBvhYULcX7wztrB Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Warren from Italy 😃!! I have a question: recording electric guitar with two mics in front a tubes amp, just to get a fatter sound, at which level must be setted the master volume on the amp. For example I have already setted the gain on my Focusrite Scarlett in the way it doesn't clip, how should I set the volume on the amp?
Hi warren! This was a great video thank you so much! I was wondering why you would turn the amp down to compensate for clipping in the ribbon. Is there a reason not to adjust the trim on the pre to be less sensitive? Thanks!!
Hi Brandon Schreiner great question! The ribbon itself is distorting. It can't take the extremely high SPL. I hope that clarifies? Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren how are you. Many thanks for all your work and teaching. DO you ever record guitar using the 11 rack or similar units? Would you run the outputs of the unit to a preamp? Would you ever do a lesson on getting great guitar tones using some of the best amp sims? Again thanks for all you do.
I would personally use all 3 wt the same time and blend them together with volume, eq and maybe buss them into a compressor to slap them all together. But I liked the condensor with 57 together a lot
Hi Warren stupid question here but how would I reverse The polarity for the microphone in the back? I have an Sm57 and a MXL 860 which one would you put in the front and which in the rear?
I'm really wondering, it's pretty labour intensive(and fiddly) and with an amp sim via a preamp I'm getting some bigger tone than the 57 I have(just on the front mind you). I did an a/b the other day and I was shocked how thin the 57 was sounding in comparison? Perhaps I have to work harder on it....!
Great video!!! Those sideburns are looking slick as ever.. I never knew that samples trick with time adjuster. Gotta try that one. How could you tell it was 41 samples?
Today I recorded an acoustic guitar chord part for a new original Song. I played the chordprogression in the rythm and than I played the same chords over it to let it sound fuller. Wile I listened back to it on monitor (and that happends often to my recordings) The chordpattern struggels with the phase and loses its natural sound because the second part is layered nealy directly over it. I tried to correct that by timshifting the second rytmpart a view millieseconds back or forth but did not get lose of it totaly. Do you have any tip or video of yours were you explane focused on "How to get away this phaseaccident"? Thanx Warren for your answer. Ps: Every Guitarpart I played with the same guitar. Would it help to get lose of it by using another acousticguitar? - Dante Rox
Hi Dante Rox, wow that's a crazy issue for it to have the phase be so close to cancels! I would pan left and right hard and don;t be afraid to try a different mic if you have one! That would help dramatically! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great question MrFigFisher! You can use the Cloud or if using a BAE 1073 you can switch the impedance! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great video Warren :) One thing i see and hear you talk about in your videos is how great results you can get using inexpensive mics like the sm57 and Lewett, but then you're using a Bae 1028 mic pre. To me that's a bit more expensive. So, my question. Any chance you could make a video comparing different mic preamps (high, low and midprice) in the future? Or maybe you already did it? Thanks
uups.. Sorry my mistake. I now heard you say Bea 312, and thats not that expensive. Sorry about that. But its still not cheap considering you have to plug it into an API compatible lunchbox or rack, and you need two for stereo recording. Anyway, my question/request still stands. I think it would be cool to hear you compare some different mic pre's if possible. :)
Hi trollstjerne, absolutely! I love both the 1073 and 312, it really depends on what I"m going for, although often I'm in a studio with less choice, so I always use the best available! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren, at 7:20 into the video you measured the wave form to find the sample to apply to the Time adjuster. Where do you look to find the sample time in pro tools as the top of your PT session is not visible to me. Thanks as always!
hello!!! great your channel!!! i have followed the steps you show, i have a Scarlet interface , my laptop with Mac and an amplifier connected with a microphone that goes directly to the interface. The problem I have is that it does not record as it appears in the Amplifier, it comes out with less volume and I must increase the gain a lot to be heard but with that you hear the hum of the speaker, I do not know how to improve this, it will be because of the interface that is simple or because of the DAW that in my case some Garagaband, the microphone is a sure sm57. I appreciate the help
How would you pan the two mic's for the chorus, to get that massive wide sound if the one guitar was the only guitar playing? Would you pan the mic's opposite, together and double them, or try to add different parts to back-up the lead guitar like we talk about in the academy?
Yes indeed! That would be A LOT of low mid mud! The back 57 has wonderful low mids, but combined with the extra low mids from the Ribbon it is very dark indeed! I like to use the least amount of mics possible! Most of the time I use just a 57! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Nice demo. Guitar by itself it's easy to pick favourites, but unless the guitar is the central feature of your song, that perspective might change if you're looking for a sound that doesn't occupy too much of the stage, right ?
Hi Warren, Thanks for the video. It would have been great to have some kind of context for that sound. Most of the times I thought, wow, that's bright ;-).
Hey Warren, Great video!! For the next video, can you talk about dynamics in the mix? I really don't know what it is and why you need to be bothered.. It just sounds very important but I can't find any tutorials online.. Thanks ;)
great video as always...I would love to see eqing that guitar sound in a mix.... yes this is my request please and thank you. most of us nowadays are using amp Sims where micing isn't an issue.... the bedroom recording producer. cheers
Hi Tavares, great question! Check out this playlist of Mix Breakdowns where you see how I blend guitars and other instruments in a mix:- ruclips.net/p/PLnLOmVwRMCqSZK-JJeiBvhYULcX7wztrB Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
@@Producelikeapro Hi Warren just bend your ear I’ve been using 57 on my combo all my life but was just thinking to myself do you think D5 AKG do would be better noise rejection ? I am planning get 2 notes captor load box then run wall sound app Logic pro eventually I’ll have all access to software mic choice on various cabs. Thanks kind regards James
Hi John Lyell, If I only had one choice it would definitely be the BAE 1073, that is a great mic pre! Since I also have the 312, I decided to use that, it just sounds absolutely fantastic on guitars! Hope this helps! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
That's a nice guitar! great to hear the different tones by just changing the mic or the mic combination. I usually take my Shure 545 (Unidyne 3), which I think is the predecessor of the SM57, and put it on the same spot of my speaker cabinet everytime (marked it using tape). Took me some time to find the sweet spot! If you use multiple mics, do you also pan them differently sometimes to get a bit of stereo effect? Thanks for the video again!
Hey man. A silly question here. Some of us just plug the guitar straight into the audio interface. No amp. Amps are noisy things. Tell me why this is crazy?
Lots of great tones there. And much more fun than using guitar amp sims, especially when you have a classic JMP to use. Nice to get a cool new guitar from Yamaha too :-) Which model is it?
Thanks Richard! Yes, always fun to record a real amp when you can! That's a Yamaha RevStar! I LOVE it!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Wow, you don't want that guitar Warren, you have tons of guitars... Don't you want to gift it to a really needy fellow and show your philanthropy? Awe, I'm just joking, that's very nice of them and it's seriously going to a very deserving fellow for all he does to help all of us out on the webs of cloudy internets... :-) Thanks for all you do Warren!
Haha funny Buddy! This is probably the best guitar I've EVER owned!! It plays so well!! AMAZING!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I didn't say it didn't sound good, i'm just nitpicky about what could arguably be called "scientific" :) Misinformation is much too easily spread these days...
The open back and closed back cabs obviously offer different low ends, for a tighter low end the closed back is great! It's just horses for courses, obviously it depends on what are you going for. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I was disappointed in this video because I thought you were going to go beyond just tweaking the different mics into how you placed the tracks into the MIX in your DAW. Now, that would be a helpful part 2 to this video.
to me, far and away the single condenser was the best sound. and the single 57 the worst. which is why I have NEVER got why people like, or start with, a 57.
That's totally fine! We all have our preferences! Most of the guitar tones we grew up with, the classic tones were captured with a dynamic mic such as a SM57 or an equivalent such as the AKG D19. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi weedywet, the SM57 would have become used significantly, post 1965-66 when it was introduced. Per Geoff Emerick he didn't use it on Beatles records initially but of course used the AKG D19 (another inexpensive dynamic mic) on just about everything at the period, drums, guitars you name it! The SM57 was standard fair in England by the early 70's, my CADAC console from PYE where they did many Kinks and The Who recordings had plenty of SM57's used with it. My friend Jack Douglas who recorded John Lennon and worked on Who's Next used SM57's and also their cheaper cousin the 546. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The d19C wasn't all THAT inexpensive (and unlike a 57, doesn't suck!). But of course pre Geoff, up until Revolver, Norman Smith was using u47s and 67s on guitar amps. As was Glyn Johns. As was Ken Scott. Etc. I feel the same about snare drums. I'm not using a $100 mic on anything I care about!
Haha The D19 was definitely cheap! It was marketed by AKG and sold under many different labels as a 'semi professional' microphone! Luckily I bought mine for $50 before the Recording Beatles book came out and they rocketed in price! It's interesting, talking to Geoff he says a lot of choices were made for speed of creativity! He said one very famous piece of equipment that is claimed to be used on Beatles records they barely ever used. FYI you'll find the KM53-54-56 was a big favourite at Abbey Road for guitars along with the D19. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
this guy always fails to show how is his guitar plugged in (the basics: wires going into preamp, etc) for newbies. doesnt talk about the cabinet, or which preamp, what pedals?, or should it be a combo amp? show behind the setup how is all wired.
The sound of just the 57s front and back sold me instantly!
Great stuff Sharon! Yes I love that combination! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Condenser and ribbon might be interesting.
Same here. I just got back into playing guitar and can't find my SM57. I used to have a Laney VC30 that I loved but sold it cause I needed the money. I now have a Crate V50 with a 12" inch Marshall extension cab. I'm gonna get an SM57 and hopefully find that other one. Time to go back into experimenting with sounds :-)
Hi Friends, I hope you're doing marvellously well!
Thank you so much for all of the positive feedback on Tuesday's Rock Production video! Some of you have asked me to do more Rock production and recording tutorials. Well... ask and you shall receive! ;-)
We're back with our Recording Connection apprentice Alex, and this time we're digging deeper into recording electric guitars.
Heavy guitars are extremely full sounds, covering almost the entire frequency spectrum. So the frequency response of the microphones your choose and how you place them can greatly help to shape your sound.
In this tutorial, we're shooting out three different kinds of microphones: Ribbons, Condensers and a good old SM57, as well as combinations of all of them to see how they affect our guitar tone.
You'll learn a special miking technique you can use to add more fullness to your guitars and I'm also sharing one of my favorite amp and cabinet combos I've recently discovered! hope you enjoy it.
Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The Lewitt on it's own is almost spot on early AC/DC in my opinion. Great sounding mic. Don't know how it would sound like in the mix, but when you solo it sounds great!
Great stuff! Yes, I love the Lewitt! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
what you do is truly a great service. Mad respect to you.
Thanks ever so much Jon! You Rock! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Love it! The dark art of recording electric guitars. Thanks for breaking it down in a way that's easy to understand!
Hi Tone Tubby Speakers! Thank you!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The test sure brings out the very best choices you could choose from, Bravo!
0:57 The sound of that Yamaha acoustically in the room is awesome!
Thanks Jerry! I agree! It's such a great guitar! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
What is the issue you are getting Enrikmann Feske-Konjtipella? Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren, I love watching your vids everyday at home in the morning and at work (when I should be working haha). Keep up the good work...LOOOVE the interviews, especially the one with Joe Baressi!
Thanks very much Mike! I really appreciate it! Yes, the interview I did with Joe was one of my favourites! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Watch all your videos Warren and I have to say this is one of the best (always have trouble recording a good guitar tone). Would love to see a video on recording fuzz guitar.
Thanks ver so much!! I really enjoyed making this one! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Love all the tests! Helps me out in my own testing XD. Thanks Warren!
Great! Thanks very much Hayden! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thank you very much for taking the time to show us the process of recording an amp, as someone who is interested in doing this in the future with an sm57 I found this very valuable!
Hi Jonathan! You're very welcome! I am so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren. I didn't you played guitar so well. I'm impressed! the 57's just do it everytime. The polarity flip for front and back mics was very informative. I will experiment with this asap. Thanks so much.
I agree! 57's are amazing work horses! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Its always a pleasure to hear Warren play guitar! great video!
Aw shucks thanks very much! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing! Many thanks Warren
Tried one of these Revstar guitars about 6 months ago. Absolutely amazing build quality and playability for the money. Quite a nice alternative to a Les Paul at a great price. A bit thinner and brighter, but I’m not averse to that.
Huge fan of RevStar guitars!
Dang! That is one of if not the only killer yamaha guitars i've seen and great toot overall on mic'ing cone/polarity/blending. Shred it!!
Hi David, I agree! I love the new RevStar! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Great video warren. Very helpful :) really enjoy watching your videos!
cheers from the land down under haha.
Thanks very much! Enjoy the land down under! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
ok... as soon as i heard sm57 front and back I jumped to the comment section, and... yes we all feel the same. Its amazing how good this mic sound, would believe it
I think you got the sweetest of the line there. The exact model I was eying. Do you find much difference in monitoring/choosing your guitar sound with speaker choice, that is, between the little desk top Genelecs and the big console Genelecs?
Hi Loren, I did! Very happy with the guitar! It's pretty amazing! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks Warren!
Greetings from Chile!
Greetings in Chile!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Tone Tubby!!!!! California baby! Hey guys great job! Keep up the good work.
Hi Mike! Agreed! Wonderful speakers! I'm so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Produce Like A Pro, thank you for all of your teachings. Masterful sir!
You are very welcome Mike! I am so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
NICE TEST 57 AND RIBBON LOVE IT KEEP ROCKING
Thanks very much Dan!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Have to say I rarely see a new headstock shape i dig but that new Yamaha headstock is AWESOME:)
So cool hearing the difference in the micing!
Thanks for the video, I have learned so much from you and guys like you. Add a part II and see how those tones fit in a mix with bass and drums.
Great sounds, Warren. That's one of my favourite combos to use too, the 57 (or sometimes an SM7B) and a Ribbon, depending on what's on hand. All the combinations sounded like they'd have their use, just depending on the song and sound you're chasing.
Hi James, wonderful! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
14:41 Phantom of the Opera. Way to sneak Maiden in Warren!
I noticed that too!
Haha yes!! You got me Jim! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Haha nicely spotted Christian! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Haha yes indeed UnholyEternity!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
those new yamahas are where its at! kinda wanna get one! peace Warren!
I agree James!! SO GOOD!! I love mine!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great show Warren. Im really curious about the tone Tubby cab and the Winterland speaker combination. Are you using a 100 watt head through a 30 watt 8 ohm speaker? what is the combination? Im probably going to get a 1 12 cab but I'm not sure if I will blow the 30 watt speaker or if they come in a higher range. Naturally I would not be playing anywhere near full volume. It sounds great on your video. Kind Regards
Hi Jack, the Tone Tubby cab is 12inch 30 watt Winterland and I love it! I'm tracking fairly hot and haven;t yet blown it with my JMP100 watt! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks for your videos, they are inspiring for me. I understand that it is subjective but still interested in you opinion. At what price point of the mic/guitar amp it is worth to start using mics instead of plugins to record guitar/ bass? In other words should I spend $300 on gear or should I wait and spend $1000 since plugins will work better than $300 setup? Thanks
Are the recording peak levels shown when you are listning to mics what you would normaly record at? Do you find when you go to mix your track levels are good for plugins and your master buss is at a good level (NOT Peaking) ?
Hi Shawn, I do record relatively hot compared with people who have grown up on the digital age. You definitely can record a little lower of it makes you feel more comfortable. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Warren, Cool video and interesting little Tone Tubby speaker cab, a few years back I took one of my Celestion speakers out of my Marshall 4x12 cabinet and built a small monitor type of speaker cab I could use on stage, then I decided to create a big snuff type box I could put the monitor into and place a 57 in there, this way I could crank up my Marshall JCM 800 and run it through the monitor at high volume but not wake up the wife and kids because the snuff box kept things down to a low rumble only noticeable in the same room, it actually worked out pretty well and once you have you 57 mic placement right it's sort of permanent placement! Ciao, ALDO
Thanks for the great tip Aldo! I'm in separate building from my family, but I understand the noise issues! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Watch your master fader, you were clippin'! Thanks for sharing. Are you a fan of using an SM57 with an MD 421? I'm thinking of trying that for my band's next recording session. I love the idea of using another SM57 on the back of the cab. I'm totally going to do that.
Hi Carter, haha definitely wasn't clipping the master fader! The signal was going through the Master Bus of the SSL! Yes, the back 57 is a great way to add low mids! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey warren great video, I see in a lot of you videos your siting at that small desk, I'm guessing your using the small Genelec monitors?, do you do alot of mixing on them? How are they?
Yes I love my small Genelecs! They sound amazing!! Great for mixing and editing! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren. Thanks so much for all your tips! What has been your experience with the Andy Jonhs aproach to amp micing? 1 sm57 directly on the cone, 1 sm57 same position 45 degrees off cone: the direct controlling hi frequencies. The 45 degree controlling low frequencies?
Hi bo, I've tried that! It's very interesting! Not for me, I found it a little 'cloudy' I love the direct micing approach myself! However whatever works best for you is definitely the way to go! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I believe your right. The mic in front: the mic in back of the amp: equall in distance. with polarity flipped (on back mic) will give the best tone for any situation or style of music. I intend to experiment with your aproach asap. Thanks so much.
Great stuff Bo! Let me know how you get on! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Shared with proud!!!!! Thanks, and my next guitar recording will have a back mic!!!!!
Wow! Thanks Emerson! I am so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
speaker diaphragm movement to the front mic is inversely proportional to the rear mic . when the diaphragm moves to the side of the front microphone, it moves away from the back microphone and vice versa. is it a physical polarity reversing ? i mean the polarity is reversed by the position , and flipping one of sm57 polarity you will get the same phase from both .
If you're recording jazz from an archtop would you set it the same?
Hi Christopher! Definitely, recording guitar principles remain the same for any genre! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Warren brother, I would be very interested to se this idea expanded into double tracking a rhythm guitar. How you pan, eq, comp etc etc... CHEERS x
Hi Pua, great question! I have a full Electric Guitar Recording Playlist here:- ruclips.net/p/PLnLOmVwRMCqSiCElWzTVFsmbViXR-x3VV Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
That was brief. The precise placement of the front 57 can yield a full sound, its a bright mic and can be tweaked for realism. I would have warmed it to the side a bit. I am pretty much deaf, and have no trained ear, so this is my opine. To get them even more believable, I end up pushing the mic pre, adding input and reducing output for color. Now we have a bone dry noise, that still lacks in room feel. Massive sounds can be improved with the room mic, and post reverbs and delays. If memory serves me, a single 57 is what many engineers credit, so I have limited myself to that train of thought. What a drag, frustrating and disappointing, but eventually that sweet spot is discovered. Dyna-mount looks appealing, but I have too many channels going to pay the $$$$ for them. The amp-gains I use are always maxed, where the distortion is generated, the power sections are level matched, so not every amp is wide open. They are matched to the quietest amp I have, which is wide open, the 16ohm output reduces the db and the others are lowered to match. The preamps output levels are what determine the final db level, which is actually quite low, otherwise I would blow the doors off of my neighbors. The db levels I use are loud enough to get the speakers screaming and the cabs humming, basically what you would use in room. I used the room within a room concept and enclosed them in a multi lined chamber, 7 amps, 10 speakers, which can cross bleed so I use them mono or two channel hard panned. A side benefit of the chamber is the cats can't get in there and bump the mics, everything stays where I put it. As a very last resort I will use the outboard EQ after the preamp, I only have 2ch of it, but the 2-400 range and the 10-15k ranges are effective at returning us to in-room feel. All of this, a simulation of the wonderful experience being within firing range of rock and roll guitars. I regret my Eventide blew a fuse, and Amazon has new ones coming today, I can't wait to roll camera. You, Warren, are very inspiring.
Great comment! Yes, the mic was slightly to the outside of the cone so it was a little warmer, plus of course the rear 57 adds some great lows! Definitely, room mics are an amazing way to bring space and size to a guitar sound! I love being able to use just one or two guitar parts, drums, bass and a vocal and hearing the rooms of everything! I would very interested to see what you record! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
For me the hardest part is to shape the tone that it fits perfectly in the mix. Can you do a video about this?
Hi MatChr, yes indeed! Many of my mix breakdown videos show this! Check out this Playlist here:- ruclips.net/p/PLnLOmVwRMCqSZK-JJeiBvhYULcX7wztrB Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Oh great, didnt know them. Thanks a lot!
You're very welcome! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Yamaha makes great instruments... Nice video, thanks Warren!
Hi noisesoundtonevibe1, I agree! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Warren from Italy 😃!! I have a question: recording electric guitar with two mics in front a tubes amp, just to get a fatter sound, at which level must be setted the master volume on the amp. For example I have already setted the gain on my Focusrite Scarlett in the way it doesn't clip, how should I set the volume on the amp?
Hi warren! This was a great video thank you so much! I was wondering why you would turn the amp down to compensate for clipping in the ribbon. Is there a reason not to adjust the trim on the pre to be less sensitive? Thanks!!
Hi Brandon Schreiner great question! The ribbon itself is distorting. It can't take the extremely high SPL. I hope that clarifies? Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
What's the model on that new Yamaha? Looks pretty sick. I'd like to check out the specs.
Hi London, it's a RevStar! I love it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren how are you. Many thanks for all your work and teaching. DO you ever record guitar using the 11 rack or similar units? Would you run the outputs of the unit to a preamp? Would you ever do a lesson on getting great guitar tones using some of the best amp sims? Again thanks for all you do.
Hi Shawn, for speed and creativity I have used 11! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I would personally use all 3 wt the same time and blend them together with volume, eq and maybe buss them into a compressor to slap them all together. But I liked the condensor with 57 together a lot
Hi Warren stupid question here but how would I reverse The polarity for the microphone in the back? I have an Sm57 and a MXL 860 which one would you put in the front and which in the rear?
After getting the tone do you blend them into a single bus? Or can you use the same take with two different mics and pan them to get a wider sound?
Great question! I keep them in mono, they are combined to create one guitar sound! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Produce Like A Pro Thank you so much for the advise Warren!
Hi Sebastian, I am so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Free guitar, good on you mate
Hi Carl, Yes, I am truly blessed my friend! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
I'm really wondering, it's pretty labour intensive(and fiddly) and with an amp sim via a preamp I'm getting some bigger tone than the 57 I have(just on the front mind you). I did an a/b the other day and I was shocked how thin the 57 was sounding in comparison? Perhaps I have to work harder on it....!
Great video!!! Those sideburns are looking slick as ever.. I never knew that samples trick with time adjuster. Gotta try that one. How could you tell it was 41 samples?
Hi Timmy, great question! I measure from waveform to another! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Today I recorded an acoustic guitar chord part for a new original Song. I played the chordprogression in the rythm and than I played the same chords over it to let it sound fuller. Wile I listened back to it on monitor (and that happends often to my recordings) The chordpattern struggels with the phase and loses its natural sound because the second part is layered nealy directly over it. I tried to correct that by timshifting the second rytmpart a view millieseconds back or forth but did not get lose of it totaly. Do you have any tip or video of yours were you explane focused on "How to get away this phaseaccident"? Thanx Warren for your answer. Ps: Every Guitarpart I played with the same guitar. Would it help to get lose of it by using another acousticguitar? - Dante Rox
Hi Dante Rox, wow that's a crazy issue for it to have the phase be so close to cancels! I would pan left and right hard and don;t be afraid to try a different mic if you have one! That would help dramatically! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Produce Like A Pro Thank you Warren! Sounds good and I will try it - Dante
Great!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Warren, Just out of Interest, What do you use for matching the impedance of the ribbon mic to the Input of the BAE312.
Great question MrFigFisher! You can use the Cloud or if using a BAE 1073 you can switch the impedance! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks Warren.
You're very welcome MrFigFisher! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great video Warren :)
One thing i see and hear you talk about in your videos is how great results you can get using inexpensive mics like the sm57 and Lewett, but then you're using a Bae 1028 mic pre. To me that's a bit more expensive. So, my question. Any chance you could make a video comparing different mic preamps (high, low and midprice) in the future? Or maybe you already did it?
Thanks
uups.. Sorry my mistake. I now heard you say Bea 312, and thats not that expensive. Sorry about that. But its still not cheap considering you have to plug it into an API compatible lunchbox or rack, and you need two for stereo recording. Anyway, my question/request still stands. I think it would be cool to hear you compare some different mic pre's if possible. :)
Hi trollstjerne, absolutely! I love both the 1073 and 312, it really depends on what I"m going for, although often I'm in a studio with less choice, so I always use the best available! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks for your reply Warren :) Have a wonderful day & evening.
Keep up the great work!
Hey Warren, at 7:20 into the video you measured the wave form to find the sample to apply to the Time adjuster. Where do you look to find the sample time in pro tools as the top of your PT session is not visible to me. Thanks as always!
hello!!! great your channel!!! i have followed the steps you show, i have a Scarlet interface , my laptop with Mac and an amplifier connected with a microphone that goes directly to the interface. The problem I have is that it does not record as it appears in the Amplifier, it comes out with less volume and I must increase the gain a lot to be heard but with that you hear the hum of the speaker, I do not know how to improve this, it will be because of the interface that is simple or because of the DAW that in my case some Garagaband, the microphone is a sure sm57. I appreciate the help
How would you pan the two mic's for the chorus, to get that massive wide sound if the one guitar was the only guitar playing? Would you pan the mic's opposite, together and double them, or try to add different parts to back-up the lead guitar like we talk about in the academy?
What are your dB levels when recording in this session? It looks like they are really hot. I've been following the -12dB peak level when recording.
Thanks Warren. I thought you might try the rear 57 with the ribbon and front 57. Do you avoid using 3 mics?
Yes indeed! That would be A LOT of low mid mud! The back 57 has wonderful low mids, but combined with the extra low mids from the Ribbon it is very dark indeed! I like to use the least amount of mics possible! Most of the time I use just a 57! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thank you Warren. I have learned a lot from your productions. I always look forward to listening in.
You're very welcome jbstrummer! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Nice demo.
Guitar by itself it's easy to pick favourites, but unless the guitar is the central feature of your song, that perspective might change if you're looking for a sound that doesn't occupy too much of the stage, right ?
thanks for this great video.. let me ask one question. how to record 3 mic as diferent line track on same time?
Hi Warren,
Thanks for the video. It would have been great to have some kind of context for that sound. Most of the times I thought, wow, that's bright ;-).
Absolutely Markus!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren, Great video!!
For the next video, can you talk about dynamics in the mix?
I really don't know what it is and why you need to be bothered..
It just sounds very important but I can't find any tutorials online..
Thanks ;)
Hi Ram, that's a wonderful subject! I do try to cover that a lot! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
+Produce Like A Pro thanks :)
You're very welcome! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
great video as always...I would love to see eqing that guitar sound in a mix.... yes this is my request please and thank you. most of us nowadays are using amp Sims where micing isn't an issue.... the bedroom recording producer. cheers
Hi Tavares, great question! Check out this playlist of Mix Breakdowns where you see how I blend guitars and other instruments in a mix:- ruclips.net/p/PLnLOmVwRMCqSZK-JJeiBvhYULcX7wztrB Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
You rock, Warren:)
Aw shucks thanks very much Kitchen Table Tunes! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
@@Producelikeapro Hi Warren just bend your ear I’ve been using 57 on my combo all my life but was just thinking to myself do you think D5 AKG do would be better noise rejection ?
I am planning get 2 notes captor load box then run wall sound app Logic pro eventually I’ll have all access to software mic choice on various cabs.
Thanks kind regards
James
Is the rear mic the same distance from the cone as the front mics?
Warren, love your playin' man! btw, what model is that Yamaha guitar? It sounds great!!
Aw shucks thanks ever so much!! The guitar is a Yamaha RevStar! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks again!
You're very welcome! I am so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Why didn’t you try, 57 back with the ribbon mic front..?
Warren,
Thought your go-to mic pre was the BAE 1073 ? Why the 312 ?
Hi John Lyell, If I only had one choice it would definitely be the BAE 1073, that is a great mic pre! Since I also have the 312, I decided to use that, it just sounds absolutely fantastic on guitars! Hope this helps! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Warran! You have to share the model of that Revstar!
I'm a bit confused about reversing(phase invert??) the back sm57 mic! Need a little help please! :)
That's a nice guitar! great to hear the different tones by just changing the mic or the mic combination. I usually take my Shure 545 (Unidyne 3), which I think is the predecessor of the SM57, and put it on the same spot of my speaker cabinet everytime (marked it using tape). Took me some time to find the sweet spot!
If you use multiple mics, do you also pan them differently sometimes to get a bit of stereo effect?
Thanks for the video again!
Hey man. A silly question here. Some of us just plug the guitar straight into the audio interface. No amp. Amps are noisy things. Tell me why this is crazy?
Lots of great tones there. And much more fun than using guitar amp sims, especially when you have a classic JMP to use. Nice to get a cool new guitar from Yamaha too :-) Which model is it?
Thanks Richard! Yes, always fun to record a real amp when you can! That's a Yamaha RevStar! I LOVE it!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Cheers Warren - just out of interest, what year JMP you have? Lovely RevStar too :-)
Great question Richard! Mine is a 1978, so it has a Master Volume on it. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Wow, you don't want that guitar Warren, you have tons of guitars... Don't you want to gift it to a really needy fellow and show your philanthropy? Awe, I'm just joking, that's very nice of them and it's seriously going to a very deserving fellow for all he does to help all of us out on the webs of cloudy internets... :-) Thanks for all you do Warren!
Haha funny Buddy! This is probably the best guitar I've EVER owned!! It plays so well!! AMAZING!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
What plugin do you use to move the tracks in phase?
Hi Goofy, I use time adjuster! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
that guitar kinda sounded awesome even over the camera mic
3:06 Technically, a lot less mid-highs make it out through the back, but one could argue the effect "for the ear" is rather the same...
Definitely! But it sounds great blended! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I didn't say it didn't sound good, i'm just nitpicky about what could arguably be called "scientific" :) Misinformation is much too easily spread these days...
The open back and closed back cabs obviously offer different low ends, for a tighter low end the closed back is great! It's just horses for courses, obviously it depends on what are you going for. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Is a Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 good enough interface to start with?
Yes, tbey are not expensive and sound great.
I don't know if I missed it, but what is the speaker used?
Tone Tubby Speaker
Does Di box matter
Reverse the polarity of the (neutron flow) back 57! haha'
Haha yes the Dilithium crystals!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I do dead center on a pretty bright amp... dynamic mic :). Rock! (Please ship me the guitar, I'll pay the shipping cost.)
Thanks Jean-Philippe! Haha It's ok I'll keep it! I love it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Is that a new desk?
Hi Mel! Yes!! It's a Flexispot desk! It's fantastic! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
excellent. We could all use more Yamaha in our lives. 😤
Hi Adam, haha yes indeed! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
amp sims please
We wont admit it in America! but The Japenese might make better guitars then us! Fact! Japenese do everything good!
My name is Eric and when he started saying “Eric... Eric... Eric...” i was like, this feels strange what’s happening.
3:32 That phase trick works really well on girls too.
looooool
Yeah distortion is cool but how about demonstrating micing on a clean sound like a jazz guitar.
so he bassicly changed microphone settings ?
Nothing in the settings changed, except when he slightly tweaked the volume of the mics and switched them on and off in various pairs.
ohh okey
Yes exactly lkb3rd! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
1:16 that companion …what an expression….wow new guitar huh ? Fk it….
I was disappointed in this video because I thought you were going to go beyond just tweaking the different mics into how you placed the tracks into the MIX in your DAW. Now, that would be a helpful part 2 to this video.
to me, far and away the single condenser was the best sound.
and the single 57 the worst.
which is why I have NEVER got why people like, or start with, a 57.
That's totally fine! We all have our preferences! Most of the guitar tones we grew up with, the classic tones were captured with a dynamic mic such as a SM57 or an equivalent such as the AKG D19. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I don't think that's true. I grew up listening to The Beatles. The Kinks. The Who.
Not a 57 in sight.
Hi weedywet, the SM57 would have become used significantly, post 1965-66 when it was introduced. Per Geoff Emerick he didn't use it on Beatles records initially but of course used the AKG D19 (another inexpensive dynamic mic) on just about everything at the period, drums, guitars you name it! The SM57 was standard fair in England by the early 70's, my CADAC console from PYE where they did many Kinks and The Who recordings had plenty of SM57's used with it. My friend Jack Douglas who recorded John Lennon and worked on Who's Next used SM57's and also their cheaper cousin the 546. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The d19C wasn't all THAT inexpensive (and unlike a 57, doesn't suck!). But of course pre Geoff, up until Revolver, Norman Smith was using u47s and 67s on guitar amps. As was Glyn Johns. As was Ken Scott. Etc.
I feel the same about snare drums.
I'm not using a $100 mic on anything I care about!
Haha The D19 was definitely cheap! It was marketed by AKG and sold under many different labels as a 'semi professional' microphone! Luckily I bought mine for $50 before the Recording Beatles book came out and they rocketed in price! It's interesting, talking to Geoff he says a lot of choices were made for speed of creativity! He said one very famous piece of equipment that is claimed to be used on Beatles records they barely ever used. FYI you'll find the KM53-54-56 was a big favourite at Abbey Road for guitars along with the D19. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
why working at 1:15 am ? crazy fools
Could you make a video that describes the elements of a shit recording?
My dislike for 1x12" cabs for rock and heavy guitars just got stronger.
this guy always fails to show how is his guitar plugged in (the basics: wires going into preamp, etc) for newbies. doesnt talk about the cabinet, or which preamp, what pedals?, or should it be a combo amp? show behind the setup how is all wired.