MSG and Umami | David Chang
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- The Korean-American David Chang is the chef and owner of the Momofuku Restaurant Group, which began in 2004 with a modest East Village noodle shop and today includes some of the most iconic contemporary restaurants and bars in the world. These are Momofuku Noodle Bar, Momofuku Ssam Bar, Booker & Dax, Ma Pêche, and Momofuku Ko (which holds two Michelin stars) in New York; Momofuku Noodle Bar, Momofuku Daisho, Momofuku Shoto, and Momofuku Nikai in Toronto, Ontario; and Momofuku Seiobo in Sydney, Australia.
Chang’s work is often singled out as among the most influential in spreading a now-common restaurant philosophy that eschews pomp in favour of quality cooking, informality, and accessibility. His food is American in perhaps the most real sense of the word, harnessing the cultural exchanges that mark his home city and country.
Chang is also a founding editor of Lucky Peach, a quarterly journal of food and writing published in collaboration with McSweeney’s.
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Thanks, what an eye opener. I was told since young that MSG is bad for us and men will grow breasts if we consumed too much of it. All BS apparently.
After watching this, I went out and bought for the first time a 200 gms pack of Ajinomoto and later sprinkle a bit of it into the eggs i was making for my mushroom omelette. I am returning here to say it taste damn good.
Thanks you David for revealing the truth.
It's not 'the truth." He hardly says one thing factual.
Very informative. I recently tried a quick dry aged beef method that uses fish sauce. The whole process took 6 days and the steak was amazing. This presentation really explained to my why that worked.
I use MSG in my cooking but a really good cook will use a combo of things, for example we use Soy sauce and sugar, also using a Wok on a proper stove creates a maillard reaction that gives saltiness to a dish. We will then add MSG. A true chef will always add it at the end as it makes the wok stick when added.
My grandmother's dining table had the usual salt and pepper shakers AND msg too... She lived up to 92.
And ............. she wasn't allergic, so that proves nothing. Some people smoke a hundred cigarettes a day and live to 93.
yaay anecdotal evidence!
She would’ve went to 95 without it.
Although allegorical, and unscientific, it's nice to hear! My great uncle Buck lived to 104... And ate bacon and eggs, venison, and potatoes. He drank and chewed tobacco, too. My good friend Mike lived an exemplary "healthy" lifestyle, and died of brain cancer at 29. Eat what you want.
@@justinlong977 Troll
Have you ever eaten at Japanese Restaurants? Many of their dishes especially sushi contain high amounts of MSG especially in soy sauce. Miso soup is extremely high in MSG because seaweed and katsuo bushi contain so much MSG without adding MSG crystals. If you have eaten pizza with cheese, tomato sauce, and with cured meats, and not experience headaches or any symptoms of MSG reaction, it tells you it is all in your head. Pizza has one of the highest amount of MSG in all foods.
The bad thing about MSG in Asian food that I've found in my experience is that I can't stop eating it until it's GONE, even if I'm full, because the food tastes _soooo_ good....
Best thing about this is the comic sans font
When our family went to our fave restaurant, 2 relatives asked for no MSG. When the waiter got to me, I asked for their MSG since they don't want it. If you have a headache after eating foods with MSG, you are not allergic, you just consumed too much fucking salt! Try drinking water instead of a 2 liter jug of Coke.
False and I am the proof.
I too am a Chef and the sad thing is most people aren't aware is that MSG is added to a lot of every day commercial foods in the grocery stores. Like chips, frozen foods, various brands of seasonings, canned soups, condiments like catsup, mayonnaise, mustard...list goes on and on.
ideally people should not eat any of the garbage you just mentioned.
I put it in 90% of my dishes at my restaurant, I don't advertise MSG free, but I don't advertise that I use it either due to the stigma. Granted, I have a Filipino restaurant, so naturally there is going to be MSG.
Chinese food syndrome? What a fascinating term.
From what I remember, one of the earliest wide-spread usage of MSG and its synthesis is from Japan. Whilst I do think excessive usage of MSG is disgusting and is an evidence of poor cooking skills, I do not think it is as harmful as many people think. MSG has been in numerous studies and many of them failed to show coherent link between MSG consumption and the negative symptoms. Few people think just because MSG is a form of protein-amino acid- and therefore can cause allergic reaction, again many studies failed to show concrete evidence of this.
John Kang if you put too much salt you get salty food. if you put too much msg you also get salty food.
if you doesn't have good ingredient you like to eat shit food?
Now, I can finally eat pork rinds. Thanks for the video!
19:45 - The best Al Pacino impersonation I've ever heard
That's a thick sweaty boi!
Love that lol
I think he's trying to stay composed without giving away to his emotions that he's feeling right now.
its common, and thats ok theres alot of people who have stage fright...to be honest, Joaquin Phoenix just won the golden globe oscars or whatever......its a well known fact he has social anxiety or stage fright....one of the two
This is what Anthony Bourdain is talking about when he says in Medium Raw, there is DEEP FUCKING THINKING behind David Chang's cooking and food, and that the emails between him and various other cooks should be anthologized for the CIA or future generations of cooks and others.
Kiss Ass
Aw do you not appreciate complimentary hyperbole?
I'm Asian, living in Asia, and I also cook. Saying that, I oppose to using msg. The reason is because yes, I do think it's unhealthy for my body, but most of all, harmful for my tastebuds. It's basically a trick. Of course, for a chef owning a restaurant, msg would be a gift that will push the flavours forwards and appeal to customers. Especially since real Asian broth requires a lot of ingredients, like my mother never uses msg but her food has enough 'umami',
+Ceri Zin It's not about your opinion. It's about the overwhelming amount of evidence that goes against what you say.
Then is msg nutritious? We eat for gastronomic reasons but also to get stuff to function our bodies. MSG is like taste without the benefit that our body needs. It sort of tricks you that you are consuming something packed with ingredients. I do have my appetite for instant ramen which is the holy grail of msg, but what if I survive on instant ramen because my tastebuds tell my brain I'm having a full meal like soup made with a heap of veggies and meat? The reason why Asians fuss so much with msg and can't stop using it at the same time is because our diets heavily depend on soup and rice, often without other solid dishes. Sometimes a bowl of broth should supply everything we need to get us through the day- not a poverty issue or anything, it's just how our cuisine is developed around. Think of a bowl of udon.
Gabriele- Please read some other comments. Turns out, it's not about your opinion either.
Simple and accurate- "It's basically a trick." I'm posting this up top. Thanks
I don't mind MSG, however i hate it when restaurants abuse it. For example, instead of flavoring a soup by using bones of pork, lamb, and chicken, people will use MSG instead.
I can tell just pure msg flavor or meat with msg flavor
MSG has no taste. How come the soup made from msg without other ingredients.
Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall asking the first question! So cool.
Actually, I'm not surprised to find out that underneath the paranoia, it's just plain ignorance. Sad... ignorance is really to blame for many problems in the world. I heard that a lot of chefs are condoning the use of NaCl all over the world. It's been reported that people get thirsty in a strange way when they consume it larger quantities. It's just plain bizarre.
This is very interesting. Years ago, when I was eating mostly vegetables and brown rice, including NO SALT, I was never thirsty. I don't know if there was a correlation other than the result. Thanks for your comment.
Bizarre Indeed. I heard it can also cause heart problems in large amounts too. Sounds very dangerous
Heard of ppl saying they were allergic to it....I never saw how that was b/c its wasnt known well until recently (past 20 years lets say)
As one of the persons that is very allergic to MSG, I would just ask that it be labeled properly as such. As it is, I can't eat anything with natural flavors, spices, hydrolyzed proteins, and several other masking names. I do get ocular migraines from doritos and other non-asian foods and was getting these migraines for 30 years before I made the correlation between MSG and my migraines, as they didn't hit me until about 8-12 hours after eating MSG. You say I am ignorant, I say you are. MSG causes many reactions like mine, weight gain, and stresses the pancreas by making it overproduce insulin. Google msgtruth
Unless you're also allergic to table salt, you're probably not allergic to MSG. Judging from you're inclusion of "weight gain" as a side effect, you were probably just overeating. And I'm guessing you were eating a lot of junk food. Go figure, eating like shit makes you feel like shit.
Did you not watch the video? There is no such thing as an msg allergy, you can google it, it does not exist.
I get even worse symptoms. Severe dehydration, debilitating headaches (and I never get headaches), vertigo....I've even gone to the emergency room before I felt so bad. So, its real. Just read Russell Blaylocks book Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills about how MSG goes across the blood / brain barrier. Its definitely a real thing and its definitely super bad for you
The msg is not the issue. It the amount. Some people are more sensitive to msg and salt. Just like anything else.
I think the real interesting question is: how much [quantified] msg is in natural foods like dashi, parma ham, parmesan or tomatoes?
You can talk a lot about, if it is harmful or not and if it is natural occuring in natural food...
I can't believe, that you can't extract as much MSG out of natural food, as a heavy handed "MSG cook" can put into his dish [which might also have additional natural occuring MSG].
I love how people just hate MSG when they don't know much about it. It's actually one of the most used thing in food process, you have that in pretty much every chips.
19:46 Amen!!!
is first question hugh from river cottage?
+james roca Yup.
The person that did not want to be the guinea pig really threw him off.
IM AN MSG USER IM ASIAN IM PROUD.
Everyone else is so relaxed and mellow, why does David look like he's about to have a heart attack?
He's just really out of shape so he's out of breath haha
Stage fright?
emilletich he looks coked out lol
emilletich Because he is FAT, maybe!
emilletich Maybe he is up there on stage doing a speech/presentation and all eyes are on him.
God he bombed this. He's totally right though!
I guarantee if I give a person who says he or she is very sensitive to MSG, give that person a bowl of chow mein and a bowl of spaghetti with meatbals and parmesan cheesel on separate days. Complains of headaches or symptoms of MSG reactions and blames it on the chow mein will be in a for a rude awakening. A bowl or plate full of spaghetti with meatballs and parmesan cheese, both the exact same weight of the chow mein, will have more MSG than the chow mein. Insanely more.
Ok mr.Chang let me ask you soething: For example you say tomatoes are full of glutamates and umami, why the hell do food companies add msg to tomatoe juices and sauces i see it all the time on the ingredient labels?
because tomato juice barely contains many tomatoes or its just red water with tomato flavor :) I mean have u seen tomato juice ? its this incredible red thick fluid looking anything like tomatoes. Don't even get started on ketchup...
Some dishes taste more flavorful the next day. In our home my spouse makes “Dungaree Pie” and the flavor in riches over time. Is this because the glutamate increases over time also?
Most fast food, including american style chinese food (general tso's, sweet and sour, etc.) has a LOT of salt and sugar in it. When mixed all together, it can taste good, but if you were to try and eat the equivalent amount of pure salt or sugar, you would be sick before you could finish.
Those two things alone will make you feel "heavy" and lethargic. You are probably also overeating and not drinking enough water.
That first guy to ask Chang a question was Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall, a Brtish Chef with loads of accolades. I would have expected him to be one to push back from Chang's lecture as he specializes in natural, farm raised produce and meat.
5 years late to your comment lol. Didn't know he had loads of accolades. Sounds like the 2nd questioner debunked Hugh's point.
interesting...
Have you considered that you're maybe just dehydrated from eating it?
Exactly. You’re getting headaches? Drink some water. MSG is salt.
Glutamic acid is not the same as MSG. That's the problem. Your body doesn't process them the same.
OK, I'm just going to say it...'cause it's been like, 8 years since anyone else has said it... Dude is sweating like he's in a Finnish sweat lodge. He's so nervous that I FEEL nervous watching him being nervous!
Naturally occurring MSG = good. Stuff that comes in a packet, made in a factory = bad.
It's literally the same thing. Your body does not process it any differently.
He's so fucking flustered lol is he high or tripping? No judgement, just take it easy man. Everyone's there to see you, they like you.
Word. Woooooord.
I know right!
After bingeing on Uncle Roger and this show, l just went to the store and bought some Ajinomoto! Raised on it here in Hawaii then quit using it after all the hype. I just got back from the store and yip I bought a giant ass bag! haha, it was all they had. Aloha from Maui!
Where is David Choe's speech about shitting.
I love fucking food!!! period
This guy walks back and forth and doesn't speak with authority.
Spread truth!!!!!!
Because infants metabolise msg in a similar manner to adults, and therefore is not toxic to the human body. However, during pregnancy, the placental barrier stops msg from coming in contact with the unborn baby. MSG is not toxic when consumed but perinatal administration resulted in lesions of the central nervous system. This is valid scientific study conducted from the journal of nutrition.You're more than welcome to inject some into your blood and let me know how that works out for you =)
I like the guy’s presentation and I appreciate the skeptical nature of his concern around “cultural myths” but he quickly made me raise my eyebrow when he said “I’m not an expert on MSG, but I have friends with doctorates who are”… to which my initial thought is of course “then why aren’t they presenting then? Why aren’t they writing or providing scientific papers to support these conclusions?”
Unfortunately we do have new studies available to us now that weren’t available at his time 9-10 years ago: “In conclusion we would like to state that although MSG has proven its value as an enhancer of flavour, different studies have hinted at possible toxic effects related to this popular food-additive. These toxic effects include CNS disorder, obesity, disruptions in adipose tissue physiology, hepatic damage, CRS and reproductive malfunctions. These threats might have hitherto been underestimated.” - Source: “Extensive use of monosodium glutamate: A threat to public health?”, by Niaz, Zaplatic, and Spoor, EXCLI Journal, 2018
I use more msg than salt as it has about 12% sodium and salt about 40%
17.32 hugh fearnley whittingstall!
How do you account that there are so many Asian restaurants that don't use MSG?
Delete this comment. He explained it already
@@mitchelljennings1 that's not what I saw. I saw that he was putting Restaurants that don't use MSG down and that he was putting the people that prefer those types of places down as well. You may stop pestering me now.
@@kjmw33 stop being ignorant, just take your "allergic" sister to those places
They probably do, they just lie, because msg was used as a way to bully Asian restaurants for so long.
I think deliciousness of food needs no artifical flavor enhancers, but it needs fresh ingredietns for cooking and unspoiled taste buds plus positive mindsets and good health.
okay this was a really good vid and i respect David Chang a lot, but when that first question was asked, Dave totally seemed to be defending the side of adding msg salts into food.. even after saying specifically that he does not use the "crutch" form in his restaurant. I just dont get why he got so defensive over that question if he really doesnt use the salt form of msg.
He doesn't understand the facts.
Posted by Cerine Z(check below)- "It's basically a trick." Now ... basically, all you are tasting is the MSG attacking your taste buds. You ain't tasting the food and therefore don't know what different foods really taste like. That said, if you eat a lot of processed food, you're fighting from behind and might as well pour MSG on everything and call it food. I'm gonna try it now with an asphalt shingle. Taste plus fiber plus petroleum products, all in the same meal.
My sister has always been allergic. She went to the ER for it. The Doctor has given her the allergy test and there is no doubt about it. She is allergic. But there are some Chinese places that don't have msg in there food. I would like to know what they use instead. I can eat msg just fine but she can't.
She can't eat glutamic acid? Does she eat tomatoes or beef or cheese? It's literally everywhere. How does she survive in this world?
She's got real issues then, because she's allergic to herself. Does she have auto immune diseases?
David seems like a great guy, but I didn't really learn anything from this vid.
so there is a stigma on msg that has been socially constructed in western palette
6:41 Answer: Sugar is bad
msg is addictive. try eating a whole bag of small fritos compared to the small bbq fritos which contains msg. The bottom of the bag is found much quicker with MSG. I love chef David Chang and i understand his presentation regarding prejudice in the culture of food. The ad campaign "Try Eating Just one Chip!" was based on the addictive nature to flavoring. Salt is already addictive. I teach this as a substitute teacher in low-income neighborhoods where the MSG is attached to the worst foods found at the corner store. Chef Chang is talking about naturally harnessing MSG which is a talent. This should not be compared to the chips that ad MSG that lead to health problems because of the high-sodium.
You're correct that we shouldn't eat careless amounts of MSG. Pretty much too much of everything can lead to some sort of health problem. I don't know what your definition of natural is, but MSG is a chemical that is found in nature and is vital to biological processes in living organisms. Also, eating a tablespoon of sugar equivalent to the same amount of sugar from fruits is digested the same way, as long as they are the same sugar, fructose.
RIP Lucky Peach. It was amazing while it lasted.
Indeed!
My sister has little many strokes throws up and blacks out. She is definitely allergic to MSG. So how do you get the same taste without the MSG.
Sorry to hear that... just out of curiosity tho, is she formally diagnosed with this? It's most likely she's experiencing something other than msg allergy...
so it's impossible to get high blood pressure from too much MSG?
Only as much as regular table salt.
Where is your source?
when u use MSG in substitute for your salt then yes it may be harmful just like anything else out of moderation. use MSG early in the seasoning stages of cooking/marinating. NOT AS A FINISHING GARNISH SALT. try Himalayan pink salt for stuff like that.
I prefer it as a finishing salt, because using it before, you may over use it, and over doing it can have a metallic taste.
I think its fairly simple: its about balance. Adding msg to shitty food just to make it taste savory is stupid and u probably need a lot. Using little msg in already well made food to enhance the flavors and overall experience isn't bad or harmful. I believe that there are people who have tolerance issues with msg and cannot eat it - that sucks for them. But like in any allergy its just who the body reacts to it. We all eat lactose altho there are people with lactose intolerance (not an allergy btw) or we eat gluten altho there are people with gluten allergy ( yes its an allergy) . So we can eat msg altho there are ppl with this intolerance. Just find it out yourself.
MSG synthetically made, many mixed ideas and also scientifically proven. If you try lit taste like salt and a little more...for me there’s a slight metallic after taste for it, and I kinda can taste it when added to food because of the after taste. If I take too much of this it has an dehydrating effect and I get thirsty... I didn’t mind eating food with MSG as I grew up in an environment that almost all restaurants, cafe, street food store uses it, until... I started to get eczema. Natural Umami like cheese...Parmesan cheese does make me thirsty but not to the same extent, I dont get dehydration effect on my skin.., tomatoes...yes so I eat that in moderation as I love sun dried tomatoes, mushrooms and seaweed no reaction. Potato chips...can’t have too much maybe just a pack in a week but eating too much will result in eczema on my face...maybe its a myth but my reactions are very real, I just eat things in moderation and I’m good... I do try to avoid places that uses MSG Asian or Western but an occasional binge will not kill me...just have to make sure I hydrate well! Mind you i have had a steak at a restaurant that made me soooo thirsty too much MSG (I did check with the kitchen to confirm), taste is not the same as steak with sea salt...it is also why I avoid having any sauces with my steak when I go out to eat, just salt and pepper, i love my chips but these days more chips have chicken salt on it...when it does again I get very thirsty...but a clever chef made chips with seaweed... Thank you 🙏, I can Umami without having effects.
Too much salt in the food will make you thirsty
@@thecook8964 I’ve learnt to add flavours other ways rather than add salt 😊 dried mushrooms, anchovies, seaweed, tamarind, sometimes a little sugar or fruit brings flavours out.
MSG increases your sensitivity to insulin.
Some practical advice from a long-time MSG believer( conspiracy theorist),. If you're looking for MSG on your grocer's shelf, look for products that read "Food Enhancer", etc.... Most companies won't put MSG anywhere on their product, except in Ingredients list...
David does tend to see racism in many places.
Is guy is out of breath and he’s hardly moving.
Is he a chef or a sweat champion?
does naturally occurring glutamic acid have sodium in it?because MSG does....i wonder what are the symptoms of high sodium(the other half of MSG) intake are
That's not the Chinese food syndrome, it is the Crapy Food Syndrome...
I am 100% ok with addressing the racial issues attached to msg in the US (which is an US issue, not an issue outside the US).
but don't agree in promoting more sodiums into our diets. Looks like this guy is just a lobbyist for the msg industry?
People with auto-immune disorders and other etc (cancers, rheumatoid arthritis, celiac disease, lupus, scleroderma ,irritable bowel syndrome etc etc ), are very sensitive to msg (and other substances) but specially with msg and like, and do experience negative effects after consuming foods with msg.
Read about Inflammation.
East "Asian" foods can be much saltier than western food.
Salt dehydrates you, dehydration leads to headaches.
Did I just figure it out?
Look at the evidence around artificial colorings.... Yet we vilify MSG, and scarf down the Taki's...SMH.
"Gluten-free" needs to go away too
disagreed. gluten has actual detrimental health effects
That's just plain ass stupid
Dude... gluten is horrible for you. Cut it out from your diet and you’ll be shocked how much better you feel. You don’t even know how much it affects you.
This presentation could have been delivered in about 1 minute.
love Chang, not a great speaker though.
kris reed so? At least his talk actually has a substance. Way better than great presenter no substance
Msg stands for my Satan's garnish.
But instead the ratio of solid ingrediant vs water is at least 1:4 and ahe often mixes multiple layers of different broth... which means money. Of course, I understand that it is iresistable for restaurants to use it, but this effort of trying to make a positive image for it is, sorry but a no. I have pride in my own food and prefer 'using real cheese to plastic bottle flakes'. Besides, if you say it all goes down to white powder... why eat real food? We can just go with stuff like protein pills
I appreciate the info but is this dude stoned?
No, he's baked.
Chinese food/restaurant in America =/= Food in China
super sweaty!
It is called Chinese restaurant syndrome, as Chinese restaurants are adding msg powder to their dishes. Not all - but a lot. I have seen in several very good restaurants, that the chefs adding chicken powder, maggi sauce and yes - concentrated MSG to their dishes. And that you won't have at all in most Japanese or Italian restaurants.
Why is it bad for you? Increases the response to sweet and salty tastes allowing you to use less salt and sugar, stimulates glutamate receptors in the stomach signalling a satiated or full feeling,essential building block of man important proteins, needed in neurons to promote healthy neural signalling and tastes so damn good? Sounds more like it could have potentially huge health benefits, I love Asian food but while I could easily gorge myself on Indian food I feel full and satisfied very quickly with Chinese, it initially tastes good and you eat more but you feel satisfied and stop sooner! You use less salt and sugar so your intake of salt and sugar can go down, it makes sour foods less harsh and enhances their profile without needing sweetness so allows more citric acid, vitamin-c etc to be taken in in those who find sour foods unpalatable and the glutamic acid will be used in the same way that the stuff in your meat, dairy, fish and fermented vegetable products. Cultures that eat a lot of umami tend to have less issues with obesity, heart disease etc and longer life expectancies , for example Japan, the Mediteranean (tomatoes, olives). And a fair bit of that, at least in Asian cooking, comes from MSG whether natural or processed. We process sugar out of cane and it is known to be bad for you in excess, why not ferment seaweed or tomatoes and process out the natural MSG? There's no proof that any reasonable amount of MSG is bad for you and when it is, sodium (think table salt) is the culprit, I would suspect that anything umami could have potential health benefits for it's ability to make you feel full alone, never mind it's ability to reduce the need for salt and sugar which, especially in the case of sugar, actually encourage gorging without ever making you feel satisfied! I would suspect that MSG may actually encourage healthier eating when used appropriately!
The book by Russell Blaylock Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills thoroughly explains why MSG is bad for you in very scientific terms and with evidence and data to prove it. I'm highly allergic to it, I wish I wasn't but I'm afraid to go into asian restaurants, especially from this guy David Chang since he doesn't know the science behind it. He clearly hasn't done his homework.
Hmm that sound interesting but highly unfounded. My theory is baded on the chemistry realities of artificial MSG. Yes Mono Sodium Glutamate is contained in natural foods. But the problem I believe is not MSG it self but not the problem. It is the Hydrolysis process of creating artificial MSG nusing harsh acids that creates a substance close to natural msg, but corrupted by the hydrolysis process. So it's not the exact MSG molecule, but the process and adulterates.
I've been using artificial msg in my cooking my whole life, I've given it to people who claim to be allergic, it's never been a problem once.
Whenever I eat chinese food that has MSG in it I am definitely unquestionably affected. I feel like crap and very very thirsty. Not because of any placebo effect either... I actually don't even think about MSG when eating at a chinese restaurant, I completely forget about it... It's only later when I get home and notice how thirsty I am and the headaches, etc. that I remember oh that's right I just ate chinese food from a particular restaurant. Just because something occurs naturally in our bodies doesn't mean it's ok for us... Hydrochloric Acid is produced naturally in our bodies... Not so sure if it's safe to drink!!! Poisonous mushrooms occur naturally... doesn't make them safe to eat. Salt with an extra molecule doesn't mean it's as safe to eat as salt.... Water is H2O but add an extra oxygen atom H2O2 it becomes Hydrogen Peroxide! PS I love Chinese food. PS MSG when combined with a purple shirt makes you sweat!
Dom... What's with the 'smartass' comment? What's your problem kid you've got issues.
You think I am going to go researching scientific papers to prove to you that I am affected when I eat something with MSG... You're an idiot!
Anytime you eat something that's too salty you can feel like this. It's not just MSG, we just put too much salt in everything. I have this problem at some Mexican restaurants. Do they use MSG? I doubt it.
when we use very fresh ingredients in our cooking, we DO NOT NEED TO USE MSG.
As you already said most food has its natural glutame acid in it. BUT if it is a Processed glutame, it is different..cos the strength is intense N concentrate..and it also has other
chemicals aded on in it.
Bullshit. The only other "chemical" added to MSG apart from the glutamic acid is literally just the sodium ion. It couldn't be any simpler. Yes, we can get sick from too much sodium in our diet. Maybe you should blame that before you vilify a relatively benign substance. Toxicity is dose-dependent. The amount of glutamic acid you'd need to even start to have morbidities is crazy. If you can eat tomato-based pasta sauce, you can eat MSG with no consequences other than the nocebo effect you place on yourself.
He looks like me after a dose of msg
I think if it’s natural MSG which gets from food like mushrooms and so on it’s totally fine.
However, if it’s the synthetic one which contains heaps of Chemical substances then it’s not ok ig; packaged or mass produced store bought.
You clearly know nothing about chemistry.
David looks like he just consumed a tasty ramen with excessive amount of MSG. Seriously go easy on the msg. It’s not bad for you as long as you’re using 2-3 pinch of umami. No more than that.
I get migraines from MSG and fermented foods too.
Drink more water, dingus.
i don't care if you've made millions in the culinary industry. noone wants to hear if MSG is bad or good for them from a dude whos struggling to breathe and not sweat while giving a oral standing presentation.
MSG isn't naturally occurring in a pure refined form… It is naturally occurring in very low concentration as glutamic acid and salts combined with other kind of molecules like proteins, sugar, lipids, amino acids, etc. Only in RARE exceptions, it is occurring in high concentration… But naturally occurring doesn't mean it is good or safe!
STFU
Rob Tyler FU
i agree with what ur saying about just b/c its natural doesnt mean its safe ...EX: water....too much water can kill u ......but i believe if u can consume a balance diet then i think u'll be fine
you're 100% right
msg 'salt' is also not natural umami
You must know something the experts in that video dont know then.
Not the same. Study more ramen boy.