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Have you seen these New Seiko 5's?
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- A few weeks ago, we showed you 6 new pieces from the Seiko 5 collection. Today, we'll do another 5 :)
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I like that gun metal gray one. I wish we saw more watches in that finish.
Pretty cool, isn't it?
I love the new Seiko 5s bought two of them they do everything my old skx175 does but keeps better time hacks and hand winds with better lume. Plus the prices are down to 180 bucks! Can't go wrong with the new 5s
I love my blue SRPD52K1. Here in Norway it cost something like $324 - including our outrageous 25% VAT. It's got the same movement as a "Blue Moon" Presage, is cheaper and has better water resistance. What's not to love? If anything, it feels a bit on the small side, as the lug to lug distance is very short, but overall it's a great watch. Want to go diving? Get a diver's watch. This is not a diver's watch, so what do you need a glow pip for? If I need to wear something more sturdy than this, I put on my G-Shock. The Oyster-style bracelet is well made and beautiful - the stamped clasp is not a big drawback. As my first Seiko I feel I made the perfect choice. Next Seiko will probably be a "Blue Moon" or one of the new iterations of a "Flighty".Or maybe that black and beautiful SRPB55K1. Edit: Just remembered I had a Seiko when I was a kid - It was a gold colored Quartz with both analog and digital time. But my new Seiko 5 is the first Seiko in decades.
Islander over this hands down! The people have spoken.
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I didn't like these watches at first but now they are growing on me. Its amazing how much I misjudge the size of these watches as either too big or too small. Thank you for setting me straight with your on-the-wrist views. They are constantly changing my opinion for the better. Thanks, Marc!
Seiko should really be offering Sapphire crystal considering what Orient is providing for a similar price.
Yeah. Kamasu is much cheaper but with better specs (20bars, sapphire, threaded crown, lumed bezel pip)
Yes, I have bought a few $40 Chinese quartz cheapos that are Sapphire.
Orient brand is owned by Seiko Group!
Orient Diver's finish and small details place it in the homely step sister category.
@@jpdavis6042 Orient Triton is quite nice. Sapphire crystal, great lume, good in house movement from the saturation diver, solid bezel action, power reserve indicator, recessed lume pip, JIS diving certification, relatively original design. Only missing a ceramic bezel and the bracelet clasp is pressed rather than milled.
I wish more watches had the white day/date on black background. It stands out more and is easier to read. Thanks for sharing these new Seiko’s! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Why the us flag sekio not American
At the price I would build with online parts, superior cases are available, coated sapphire crystal, great selection of crowns that screw down with triple seals, strapcode bracelet, ceramic or sapphire bezel that are lumed,etc. I do like the movement Seiko uses on this 5 selection . I would also like a 38mm or 37mm case if it would be available at some point
How many people referring to ISO requirements know what they are? Because if any of you had bothered to look up the ISO 6425 specifications, you'd know that 200m water resistance and a screw-down crown are NOT part of the requirements! 100m is enough for an ISO dive watch. The one spec that I think these Seiko 5s fail to meet is a luminous indicator (lume pip) on the bezel.
I just bought an SRPD73K2 (the vintage-styled one with fauxtina and a silicone strap) at The Bay in Canada (an upper-end department store) on sale for only US$220. I bought it not as an SKX replacement -- which it is not -- but because it is a gorgeous watch with hacking, something that I find useful on a daily basis. It would actually cost me more to buy an SKX here in Canada, and I'd have to get it either online or at a specialty watch store, not a major retailer.
Someone has read ISO 6425!! Thank you. I bought it years ago, it's a great read.
Marc, YOUR Islander models out punch/out class these; just waiting to hear that you'll be offering a blue dialed dual time zone with a Black/Blue ceramic lumed bezel?!?!
Thx for keeping us updated!
islander watch is cool, i have to say the price is a bit unreasonable. I feel 260 is more proper.
The Islander diver is a great watch at a great price in my humble judgement. I'm very pleased with mine.
Can't see this selling in big numbers. For very little investment they could have chucked the better movement into the SKX and carried on for another 20 years.
These are all dressed up with no place to go.
robbiecox they’re going straight to my collection
robbiecox they aren’t for you, it’s that simple
They look good imo
Another of the "No screw down crown!" brigade. Get over it. You probably already own a Prospex watch or 3. You already own an SKX, which you probably modded beyond recognition. This watch is for people who want this watch. Which is a lot of people....since they're selling well.
caomhan84 haha i have a modded skx!
As a owner of a nato strap business I would advise people to buy the bracelet version of the watch (if it has solid endlinks) and buy the nato strap aftermarket. Its much harder to source a bracelet later than it is to source a nato strap.
Seiko 5s were always budget watches ,now they are 300 bucks . No ISO,no screw down crown and Mineral crystal and good to like 50 feet
No glow pip on bezel when cheap $30 Chinese watches can offer it. Telling that it is missing.
They're not actually 300 dollars. You can find them for 200-229.
@@bigfootsburneraccount9160 should be 99.00
@@excelerater should be 50. Should be 25. Yada yada. No one likes it, we get it. Buy a turtle or a samurai, that's what I'll be doing.
What people are not getting is market sets the price..
More people are choosing to pay what Seiko is asking vs a chinese/micro brand is asking even if the micro is better made and cheaper.
Seiko is looking at the main market who doesn't delve into details like WIS do. They care about brand recognition and aesthetics not ISO/hx, screw Down, etc...
The WIS is 1% of the intended target so Seiko makes what appeals to the other 99%.
I was always sceptic of the SKX 007. But now I have one with Sapphire and an aligned bezel I really like it. Should have bought one earlier. It is a classic . There is no need for those new 5 's to be more than 200 dollars when I can pick up a brand new "old" 5 Sports for 150 dollars with solid en links.
Love the brown version very earthy look, will look great with my hunting attire 😂
I think this will be a big winner for Seiko. It has good movement in the 4R36 and looks good. The see through back is cool and since most people don't go deeper then 4 ft of H2O in their backyard pool it is WR enough.
Got the black one in silver stainless steel casing on a metal bracelet as a B-day present and it is amazing ^^
Love all the comments about turning what used to be a dive watch into a colorful fashion watch. I would really like to know who still uses a dive watch for diving?? I have several friends who are divers. They all use dive computers. Modern dive watches are about a sporty style. Who really really cares how deep they can go?
I like them and have no issue with the 100m diving rating (especially for everyday as if I needed to actually dive I'd switch to one of my many ISO certified watches), but they're not going to be worth it until the price settle down in the typical Seiko 5 price point.
These watches look beautiful however for the price I am not fully sold on them... Any chance we can get a video comparing to the old 5 & skx
just get an skx, its a legit dive watch for less $
@@nhayes927 thats what im thinking
I think they look really good, and despite the larger diameter it wears pretty well for folks with smaller wrists due to decent 46mm lug height. My only real complain is the lack of a sapphire crystal.
These five Seiko 5 watches are little more than Submariner homages. Seiko 5 formerly sold for $50 to $150, but these will soon retail for $225 to $375! I have to be impressed with the nerve of Seiko to market these ho-hum watches through large department stores where they can parlay their once-good-name at new obscenely higher prices to unsuspecting buyers. Seiko is relegating themselves to be the fashion watch of 2020. Little more than a pretty face.
James H. Nazarian, Ph.D. I’m through buying Seiko. They have sold out. There are so many much better options for the price of their watches today. They are now a second rate watch company!
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They looking nothing like a submariner though?
Why do you think they're ho-hum?
Thank you for another awesome watch video Mark. I'm glad you said that you can swim with a 100 m water-resistant rated watch. I've got plenty of 200m watches to swim with so I've always been a little hesitant.
Isn't 100m. equal to 300ft?
yup
I just saw the orange one in store. The color is much prettier in real life than on videos. Strange, I don-t like orange color, nor I would wear orange watch, but that 5kx looked so nice.
Yes the prices gone down alright and I got myself the Black with Blue indices the SRPD81K1 for only US200. But definitely I'm going to mod it maybe by putting a dome Sapphire and change the Bezel Insert.
I got the black bezel one with the offwhite cream dial and chain bracelet.
The clasp engagement was very weak when I got it, bent the tab in the claps and its great now, but at almost $300 it should've come with better QC considering the chain bracelet was more expensive
I’m glad to have my skx009j
Me too...
Same.
Just bought one a couple of days ago great watch.
I'm okay with it being more expensive, however I've always felt a Seiko 5's big appeal has always been it's affordability. And if they were going to make it more expensive, then I see absolutely no reason why it should be functionally inferior to the SKX.
And I know you can swim with 100m depth rating but do so at your own risk. I learned the hard way with my own Seiko 5 that 100m actually means less then 3 meters :/
But it has a better movement so its not so inferior surly?
ElliotDrinksWater I swim with my $17 Casio Luminox knockoff......
None of these Seiko 5 models should be over 200 dollars. I bought an SKX009 three years ago for 169.00 shipped. I am not used to these lower-tier Seiko's being much more than 150 dollars. Not even Safire Crystal. I think your long Islander is much nicer looking, better water resistance, Safire crystal, probably a similar movement. Are these new Seiko 5 selling well, or are you getting resistance because of the higher pricing Seiko has done?
It's part of the pricing model; Islander and Seiko are very very different corporate structures.
@@islandwatch Yes when you have your own watches to sell, you cut out the middle man from big cooperate Seiko. Or whomever. I am curious how the new Seiko 5 watches are selling or not selling from a retailer's point of view. Seiko 5's for years have been around 70 to 150 dollars, maybe a little more and a little less depending on where and when you get them. Seiko 5 has 5 things which it is named for. 1. Day and Date. 2. Automatic 3. Water Resistant. 4 Value for your money. 5. Shock resistant. Not in any order.
I like the way you say sapphire "safire"
@@wooferjr169 Ever since I installed this spell and grammar checker, it does some really weird stuff when I type and changed what I had typed and I did not notice until too late. Safire has some military definitions and some urban ones but none of them are a gem. I probably spelled it wrong. Thanks, I don't mind being corrected so I don't repeat it.
In 1990 Seiko 5 was $35 on Canal Street in Chinatown. Made in Japan. Now it is $300 and made in China? Way to go! But it looks extremely nice, I must admit.
I don't really care about the discontinuing of the SKX - it never struck me as a watch worth the $200 asking price, but the move by Seiko here leaves a bad taste in my mouth. They're dumbing down all the specs of the original SKX, popping in an updated $50 movement, and then charging $100 more. I will admit, however, that I appreciate the hell out of the new style direction - that all-black with blue indexes really stood out to me.
These are nice watches I can't wait to see one out and about....
Hi Mark ! We still are waiting for some update on Orient Triton bezel insert.
I hear so many people complaining about the new srpd Sekio 5 being only 100m and not iso certified. The new Seiko 5 srpd is not a replacement for the skx, it's a replacement for the snzf series (sea urchin). The old snzf 7S movement did not have hacking or manual wind, so the new 4R is an improvent. Also the snzf was rated for 100m and sold for around 180 dollars which is in line with what these new srpd Seiko 5's are selling for in department stores. So for all those complaining how about how the new srpd's are inferior to the old skx's, do some research. The turtle and the samurai are the true replacement for the skx.
These watches look great and it might not sit well with people because its such a major change.
Regarding complaints about the non-screw-down crown and 100-meter water resistance on these Seiko 5's, most people who buy dive watches like these aren't divers. And those who do dive don't need every watch they own to be suitable for that purpose. Really, one will do. When I go into the water with a watch, I wear my $75 Casio Duro, for the simple reason that I don't need to stress about whether it gets water-damaged, broken, scuffed, lost, or stolen. I save my more expensive watches for less punishing activities. Each to his/her own.
Thanks!
$200 tops.
Not more.
Wish App has them for under 60$ lol
Really cool blackout/blue. Nice lineup. Love the orange dial, might swap the insert though
i like the orange dial better than the rest, i have an older seiko not a grand seiko but similar and the former owner put an aftermarket dial in it its gold with a blue dial
Pretty sharp, especially the blacked out version.
First time watching one of your videos. Great job! Perfect pacing, info, zoom in on details.
These Seikos are nice - but have a few divers.
You just earned a new customer - will be ordering a Bambino.
The last two are really nice I actually like the whole idea of these. The only watches I wear in the water are a couple of my casio-g-shock watches... Plus I'm 65 and I'm only in the water a few times a year, a couple relaxing tube trips down a slow river and swimming in a friends pond, usually with a beer or some wine. So I'm totally good with these, also I rather like your Islander watches too! Thanks for the video Marc! 👍👍
Do you know what happened to the srpd83? The black and pink one. Did they not release it stateside? It was on Seikos site when they announced the new 5s but is gone now
They're nice but I'd rather have an Islander😉
I wish Orient would do the exhibition window thing on the case back that a Seiko does. I like seeing the movement. Only thing stopping me from getting a Kamasu
Forever waiting for an skx013 sized Islander
Me too, LOL
I mean, it’s basically an SKX with a better movement, and no screw down crown and 100M less water resistance - but you do get drilled lugs. Price is OK for this. Would prefer Sapphire at this price point, though.
I like these seiko 5 watches... great gateway drug into mechanical watches. Cheap enough to give as a gift with lots of choices to find something for anyone! Also, like porsche with the Cayenne, these ensure Seiko can invest in the interesting watches into the future.
Thanks!
That gun metal one looks pretty nice. Unfortunately not ready to buy another 5kx.
Thank you.
Not quite sure how many deep sea divers actually buy these watches. XD
100m is fricking fine for jumping in the pool or wearing in the shower.
These are great watches. Good weight, design, size, and colour options.
Yes, I have seen them... no thanks. I went for a vintage Seiko (7a28-7040) and couldn’t be more happier.
It is your money. Look at what features and quality you can get for $375 from other brands. Luminox, Bulova, Citizen, even a few Hamilton models... and none of them will have misaligned indexes. Check out an Invicta diver, often found selling for $70 with the very same Seiko automatic movement as the Seiko watches, but without the Seiko assembly defects. If the Seiko hasn’t been marked down or discounted, don’t buy it.
I like the brown version, but that textured dail is not for me.
I purchased SRPD83K1 the red one..and i like it..
I have the rose gold one with the leather strap... Beautiful watch! 😊👌👍✌️
Sporty looks overloaded! :D
Hi Marc,
Do you sell "Made in Japan" Seiko 5 watches on demand ? Here in France the new "5KX" comes in "K" and not in "J"...
Big improvement on the SKX- I'd swap mine in a heartbeat!
even tho it is upgraded movement I don't get the price? I'll wait for the 38mm islander
I can appreciate the new range but I strongly disagree with the prices, skx’s are still available for less, and you can still get an sarb033 for £360 !!
Yeah, the SARB033. A ladies sized, poorly lumed watch available in any colour you want as long as it's black. Great choice!
The price point on these watches is DOA to be honest. You can get 5X the dive watch from anywhere for that money!
@@metatechnologist
No you can't. No other manufacturer offers you such a varied choice of just one model. Your options are greatly limited to, at best, a handful. The Seiko 5 offers 27.
@@markcynic808 Good point. But if I just want a standard dive watch with a sapphire crystal (which these new seiko 5s arguably are not) those are easy to find. Really they seem to have entered the "fashion watch" category here. Not that I do not like and enjoy some fashion watches tbh.
Ladies size 😂😂😂!
It’s an outstanding watch for the money, better finish and movement, sapphire glass and nice bracelet for a £10 more than the new 5! They are overpriced for what you get. And yes it’s a dress watch not a “dive” (if you can call the 5’s dive watches)so yes there isn’t as much loom, well spotted. 😂
I really like that gun metal one.
The burgundy red one with gold hands and indices is really nice!! it's a shame you don't have that model.. I have one and it's gorgeous!!
I kinda understand all the hate for these but the burgundy and the full black one are really awesome!!
Thanks!
I ended up purchasing the blacked out SBSA025. I like it. The lume isn’t great like a turtle’s. For a sub-$200 piece it is excellent. The SKX is cool but I can’t wait to see people modding these new Seiko5s.
I want the daydate to match the dial. Sold a (not sports) blue Seiko 5 and bought a black because I wanted the daydate to match.
Might be picking up one of these later for a lower price. Sure the price is good but you can pick up a mini turtle for example for around the same and that's a better watch. Seiko is the greatest brand in the world
Love the Maroon, I will buy it … love the colour, stylish cheap beater 👍
I think they're good looking watches. I can see where Seiko are going with these - trying to appeal to the mass market, as in people buying from a jeweller and not necessarily an afficionado.
Marc very honestly and in a polite way stated Seiko doesnt give a shit what we want. They have snubbed us in a big way. That's what makes Marc cool besides a watch seller he is a true enthusiast and tells the truth
They look good but now it's starting to become more apparent to me why microbrands are so strong, in terms of the features and the price points they are able to provide
If the other Seiko 5 are any indication like the Baby Monsters these prices might fall.
Thanks for the presentation. It's always interesting to see what Seiko is doing in the market place and I get their strategy as you have explained it. I'm also glad they will be getting a market share here in department stores. But.... Considering the Bottle Cap I bought from you a little less than a year ago, these 5's are over-priced. The Bottle Cap has a unique design and the same hacking and winding movement. These are SKX clones.... I'd rather have my authentic SKX with inferior movement any day.... OR, your Islander!
Hello Mark. Great looking watches.
Am I misstaken or does the new 5 come in green and one blacked out with red hands and indecies?
Oh yes,, 100 m wr is fine to swim with.
Yes they're nice Seiko 5's , but they're not an SKX (ISO diver) and for slightly more money you can get a turtle.
If they had sapphire crystal and a ceramic bezel then yeah I may have bought one but at around 260 quid for mineral and aluminium, I think I'll pass.
Not from a main brand.
In my opinion hand winding and hacking are more important than a screw down crown
I’ll admit, they are gorgeous, but not making it a screw-down crown was a misguided decision. The good news for modders is that we will probably be able to buy those cool new dials from their parts dealers.
They do come in great colours!
They do.
The Orient Kamasu is a better watch at more affordable prices
Not a better watch if the design/fit doesn't speak to you. It can be better in every objective way but its not better if it gathers dust in a drawer or just meh on the wrist..
Lawrence S. Sure it is but this is just Seikos 5 line which are more for looks , Seiko PADI and Samurai and scores of other divers they make go head to head with anything out there in there price range , Orient is Orient my friend
Lawrence S. nooo way....the Orient might have better glass and doesn’t have display glass back so Seiko wins for me every time 😂 no pun intended.
Orient kamasu for me are ranged from 360$ to 500$ can and seiko 5 are around 335$. I got mine at 280$ so its not more affordable
I want a root beer bottle cap 5, but I can’t seem to ever pull the trigger on it
Those black-out and gun-metal platings will look awful once they get scratched. Polished silver is the only finish I would choose for taking out scratches.
Was not a fan untill you got the black and blue one out 👍stunning . Still waiting on a stealth bomber Islander . All blacked out would be such a nice look
Thank you.
I think the new 5's are stunning! Well done Seiko.
Thank you
Ok I admit to liking the green one I saw somewhere. This orange one has hands that are... way too cute.
I won't whine about Islander wait time since you see it all day long! Happy Halloween.
LOL, thank you.
Forget these Seiko 5, have you seen the new Alpinist? Black, cream and green dial. Two of which have cyclops. All with Prospex logo, probably around 700 USD.
That for 700 is worth it, but this for 300 isn't? I don't see how that is 2x the watch, from a seller's perspective.
@@islandwatch That's the thing, I don't think the new Alpinist is worth the 77,000 yen Seiko is asking for either. I don't see that watch being 2x the old Alpinist.
Good morning - thanks for all the great Seiko videos! What is the difference in quality of a clear back versus the standard enclosed metal back?
I may have the perfect slogan for Seiko's new marketing strategy: Seiko: Less for More.
Also, these next to a Longines, my arse. Better hope Switzerland will not sue.
They should have just done screw down crown - it couldn’t have cost them much more to do that. I’m not worried about 100M, though. I’m not a diver.
They're beautiful, solid watches that will serve their owners for many years. However, it seems to me the Orient Mako/Ray/Kamasu are a much better value, for roughly similar features. Orient Ray II is going for $125-150 right now. And going up to a sapphire crystal on a Kamasu is $220-250. Thoughts?
Still have my gsar from long island. Love it.
Do these models use the same case as the SKXs, because they look similar?
I think they are cool. This coming from a guy that has a few luxury pieces, Id rock it.
I have the ISL-02 and love it. Better than the SKX.
4R36 movement is better than the 7S36 movement.
I didn't mind these when i thought they were gonna be like $100-$150 but the fact that these go for close to $300 is insane. Why would anyone pay $300 for one of these when they can get a turtle for around the same price.
I’m waiting for your smaller islander!!!!!!!!
Me too
4R36 movement with hacking and manual winding plus new styling ---> huge hike in price.
There is no 38mm version, I went to try them in a shop and I really did not like them.
Great reviews, i like watching your videos. I'm new in watches, and i like Seiko SNZH57, but in my country i can find only SRPD57. Can you please do review and comparison of these two watches. Thanks anyway, keep it up.
I have two Invicta divers here with nh35 internals. They work fine, they look okay I guess if you van forgive the mirror finish on the link centres that seems to be magnetic to scratching stuff. The Grand diver cost me £106 from Amazon, the 3045 roughly the same. They too have a non sapphire crystal that seems as scratch resistant as Hardlex so far. These Seiko 5 prices are comedy level when you consider what they contain.
The current US-only priced Orient crazy bargain $199 Makos looks like Epson doesn't want to have the 5 range in cabinets beside existing-priced Orient stock as it'll make them look just what they are. Cheap watches pitched far too high $value.
I’ve now seen them, and I don’t want one!
Mark :-P Seiko is no longer my favorite watch brand. Their good watches are overpriced and getting rid of the skx was a major downer. There are so many better options compared to their cheaper watches. I wouldn’t give you $100 for the 5!
Randy benton times change and apparently a lot, A LOT, of people don’t.