The MP7, P90, UMP, and other similar weapons were not included as the subsonic ammo used with them is not used expressly because they are subsonic. I had a bit where I explained their absence, however it was cut for time.
The tan mp7 leopard remains undiscovered, but legend has it that Its glowing skin is a warning to all who would challenge its territory. Do not let it's weak strikes fool you, opponents will quickly succumb to its rapid fire rate and lowered recoil.
We're getting working ir lights and lasers in the upcoming update. I hope we also get a working subsonic ammo mechanic soon too. I don't like the current meta to use best pen, hypersonic ammunitions with a silencer.
@@WetPaperTowel1 Oh yeah. currently high tier armours are way too protective, as in reality, any bullet hurts when they find a nice gap to slip through. Even bad and/or weak bullets.
@@Ironpine27 the truth of the matter is that the differences between rounds within a caliber aside from hollow points are extremely slim, and ammo should make like half the difference it does
@@pipemong You're quite right, but the bigger problem is still some armours essentially negating damage from lower end bullets (in my opinion at least), even though irl armour plates are mostly there to protect your vitals, not entire body parts. That being said, there are examples of armour with greater coverage, but they're heavy as all hell if they've even only decent protection against rifle calibers, not to mention against purpose built armour-piercing rounds.
Not me personally, but you KNOW that if someone dies to US ammo in this game, theyre smashing that report button because that's the point people are at for coping with losing.
When paired with a rangefinder, the VSS is actually incredible at long range. Even sp5 has enough damage to kill very geared players in a couple of hits. Very fun gun to run on woods or lighthouse.
Your streamer item should be an access card that opens a room in labs with a bunch of documentarian stuff. And maybe a signed photo of David Attenborough on the desk. The name on the card is just “V.G.”
@@leviticus1132 great now I'm thinking of the cameras people put into post scriptum for people to take b&w screenshots, and the players that would insist taking photos of us hiding in a trench or bush while standing out in the open
@@mikecalkins6467 Nikita had said they want more accurate armor hit boxes. Where it fits the armor's model rather than acting off the player hit boxes. So a hexgrid is not going to protect a lot on your throax. Making it easier to get throaxed from the side.
@@dalazyworf It isn't like that already? I assumed it was because when you look at what areas the armor "covers" not all say the same places... Nikita tricked me
Long term VSS sniper here. There was a really big nerf to the weapons accuracy that shrank my effective range from 450 meters down to sub 250m. I've got plenty of long range clips ( over 200m) if you'd ever want some examples of "Apex predator sub sonic user" lol . Including a 560m ash12 kill.
@@comradesillyotter1537 as another vss main I can tell you, rangefinding is more than just recommended, it’s necessary since the low velocity means high drop. I would suggest using the PSO 1M2-1 because of its short range rangefinder built into the sight, if you need a x1 sight mount it with the combo mount and a side canter to the front of the gun. Also I’ve rebound my range up and down keys to the side mouse buttons for quick adjustments. Otherwise the leading is just practice, go out into some offline raid, check distance, shoot, and count until you see the smoke from the impact to know how much you should be leading at what ranges Edit: also remove the key binding where double tapping R drops the magazine, nothing more annoying than panic spamming R in a gunfight and accidentally leaving behind your 20k-40k magazine. It’s not even that much faster anyways
The accuracy of the VSS wasn't nerfed. I still snipe with it, and its actually easier this patch than previous. Just make sure you're not using low durability guns.
@@comradesillyotter1537 @Cut Frasier In addition to everything Cut Frasier said. You need to go out and experiment with the ammo you intend to use because of how tarkovs zeroing works, each round will impact differently (Sp-5 is the default for the VSS and val) Look into "slope angle shooting" because its relevent to any shot you take where you're dealing with more than a 15 degree incline / decline in elevation of your target. Practice , practice, practice. And most of all, keep good records. Learn how to make an effective "Dope card" or "data card" for your rifle. Consistency is key. The laser range finder and reticle range finders in tarkov lie ( they both show line of sight, not actual horizontal range, See more in slope shooting) My key binds for zeroing are ALT+W and ALT+S because I don't use blindfire ever. Long range shooting, or even just sub 150m shooting with the vss is rough if you've never sat down and really learned how to snipe.
@@BlindxSide YT seems to be eating my linked comment, so if you get spammed I'm sorry. I have proof the VSS did get nerfed. the old system had it clocked at 0.01 degree accuracy , 1 MOA is 0.016 degrees meaning the rifle was sub moa compared to the new system at ~3.2 moa Radius which now prints a group that is about 7.4" per 100m. If you'd like the photos from pre 12.0 showcasing this i'll happily send them
Does make me wonder, does subsonic ammo vs non-subsonic ammo make a audible difference in tarkov? IRL of course it does, but in the wacky world of tarkov does it, and if so how substantial? Edit: Also a Elite level covert Subsonic user is the most horrifying thing of all though.
The only difference made now is the range at which people hear you from. Subsonic rounds in Tarkov reduce the range from which your shots are heard from just like suppressors do. Other than that though, there's no noticeable difference. This will probably change in the future, as Nikita has stated before that he wants to work on bullets more.
man ive been using US bullets on AKMs and im having the time of my life. Yea sure i dont kill geared people very fast, but landing so much bullets on someone and then watching him drop like a sack of potatoes on the floor makes my soul ascend
I've been running a ton more high damage low pen rounds like these examples this wipe. It's been a ton of fun! and nothing is like the feeling of striking terror into the hearts of chads when you take out their knees on the way to the extract with 5.45 SP or 5.56 HP before they can extracat wtih all that delicious gear!
Where's the love for my cobra comrades? Using ammo with the highest bleed chance to kill *any* target. HP ammo ftw. I don't need armor penetration when my enemy didn't bring 5 hemostats.
back when i started tarkov (a year or two ago) I tried to use subsonic ammo in a night raid. not sure if they did anything or if it was the suppressor. ended up somehow killing 2 pmcs but getting killed by a scav who somehow say me in the night
With the recent changes the leopards have become more formidable turning them into tigers.. still relatively stealthy but with the recent recoil reductions they are able to use higher tier ammo at lower lvls making them very ferocious
A little late with this, but if you mount the laser rangefinder on the right of the VSS barrel mount, you can see the distance reading while looking down the PSO scope
The best part about subsonic ammo, Elite Covert Movement. You can practically shoot right beside someone and they won't hear it because of how the skill reduces Noises produced by weapons and equipment are quieter (+60% at elite level). A VSS/AS-VAL which is already very quiet, with a -60% loudness, becomes like a *PIP* to other players. Beware the covert Subbies, they're why I am afraid of dark corners.
though audibly quieter it still suffers from the same in game mechanic of all silence weapons can be heard at 100m or less. so. it may be a more silent round. it still audible with in that range. you are relying on your opponent being deaf.
I'm planning on doing other games on wednesdays. Probably short little snippets at first but maybe longer vids will come. Hunt Showdown has priority after tarkov though
I am this player, I play mostly night and play solo. I attack and move quickly if I don't kill my opponent(s) I re-position. I maintain a 70+ SR as a solo I used to consider myself a honeybadger, now i'm a leopard lol
The MP7, P90, UMP, and other similar weapons were not included as the subsonic ammo used with them is not used expressly because they are subsonic. I had a bit where I explained their absence, however it was cut for time.
u missed mcx chad
I’m assuming that ash 12 was also not included with that list?
yea sb193 is still sick
What about the 45 Vektor its subsonic with all ammo and is op as fuck.
@@colgate1249 that's just an MP5 Leopard with money 💰😃
The voice guy is also evolving. He went from Bad to Eh and Ive never been more proud
news anchor
he extract camped someone so i think hes still bad
@@jofus9861 I mean hunting exit campers is easy
@@jofus9861 Old comment but when did I extract camp?
@@leviticus1132 bro probably forgot to take his vita gummies
The tan mp7 leopard remains undiscovered, but legend has it that Its glowing skin is a warning to all who would challenge its territory. Do not let it's weak strikes fool you, opponents will quickly succumb to its rapid fire rate and lowered recoil.
There's unconfirmed sightings of them lurking in factory, slow crouching in the tunnels waiting for the perfect ambush.
I didn't realise he was looking for Writers 😃
I love tan mp7
it's only a matter of seconds before your body gets filled with 9mm subsonic rounds
Mp7a1 - 50-60k
3 40-rounders full of subsonic 60k
Ratrig 55k
Kills any and all chads.
We're getting working ir lights and lasers in the upcoming update. I hope we also get a working subsonic ammo mechanic soon too. I don't like the current meta to use best pen, hypersonic ammunitions with a silencer.
It's already in place, partially. They have the foundation for it put it atleast.
I think that when the armor update comes and armor only protects the places that there are actual plates that lots more ammo will become viable.
@@WetPaperTowel1 Oh yeah. currently high tier armours are way too protective, as in reality, any bullet hurts when they find a nice gap to slip through. Even bad and/or weak bullets.
@@Ironpine27 the truth of the matter is that the differences between rounds within a caliber aside from hollow points are extremely slim, and ammo should make like half the difference it does
@@pipemong You're quite right, but the bigger problem is still some armours essentially negating damage from lower end bullets (in my opinion at least), even though irl armour plates are mostly there to protect your vitals, not entire body parts. That being said, there are examples of armour with greater coverage, but they're heavy as all hell if they've even only decent protection against rifle calibers, not to mention against purpose built armour-piercing rounds.
Not me personally, but you KNOW that if someone dies to US ammo in this game, theyre smashing that report button because that's the point people are at for coping with losing.
Happened to me when i was wearing a slick and bastion
@@ZEMMER070skill issue
I dont even know what us ammo is so it doesn't hurt me
@@Mecha_Hitler7.62x39 US
@@Jacknease-q1p Why would you tell me now it will hurt me
When paired with a rangefinder, the VSS is actually incredible at long range. Even sp5 has enough damage to kill very geared players in a couple of hits. Very fun gun to run on woods or lighthouse.
SPP is devastating on Woods with it's Accuracy increase. Even BP would work.
SPP is amazing long range
Did you see when he was on the train and shot the guy sixty seven times? He died at 68 yeah but..
isnt there like a built in range finder with the PSO scope of the VSS and Dragunovs?
@@mahogany7712 yes
Agent 47 called he wants his weapons back
6:13 truly a magnificent rare sighting of a recently ripened scav fruit, beautiful
Never in my life have I considered using us ammo before this video. Now I'm kind of curious
Use it not for its subsonic ability, but for the -20 recoil, it can make 762 have pretty much no recoil.
You're late to the party man but enjoy it!!!! the -recoil is pretty strong
us better for early wipe but it still do funny now
Drum mag recoil meta ak + 70 rounds of us scares even the Chadliest chads
@@thenamesdrew2 + i play that on night fac with a laser, dont even ads.
this is literally the most actual gameplay footage-based and usefull guides, thank you for your content
3:27 so good at escaping he makes his way from Reserve to Customs in a matter of seconds
Impressive.
Quiet as a whisper, swift as the wind
Your streamer item should be an access card that opens a room in labs with a bunch of documentarian stuff. And maybe a signed photo of David Attenborough on the desk. The name on the card is just “V.G.”
I was thinking a Camera that goes into your melee slot and has Geographic on the side or something. Really its just a range finder
@@leviticus1132 great now I'm thinking of the cameras people put into post scriptum for people to take b&w screenshots, and the players that would insist taking photos of us hiding in a trench or bush while standing out in the open
@@pnutz_2bruh just seeing post scriptum makes me wanna download it. miss squad leading
Only this series can make me want to play the game again
Subsonic SX is a fire round, the lack of MP7's in this video disturbs me greatly
Same goes for the mcx
They remained too sneeki breeki to be found
I think when the armor hitboxes get implemented, this play style will be more and more adopted. Shooting people’s pits is gonna be dope as fuck
I’ll be coming for your pickle
@@asdasd-ty9se Many nuts and guts will be eviscerated
@@ChristAcolyte Armor hitboxes?
@@mikecalkins6467 Nikita had said they want more accurate armor hit boxes. Where it fits the armor's model rather than acting off the player hit boxes. So a hexgrid is not going to protect a lot on your throax. Making it easier to get throaxed from the side.
@@dalazyworf It isn't like that already? I assumed it was because when you look at what areas the armor "covers" not all say the same places... Nikita tricked me
Long term VSS sniper here. There was a really big nerf to the weapons accuracy that shrank my effective range from 450 meters down to sub 250m.
I've got plenty of long range clips ( over 200m) if you'd ever want some examples of "Apex predator sub sonic user" lol . Including a 560m ash12 kill.
Advice on vss sniping,
@@comradesillyotter1537 as another vss main I can tell you, rangefinding is more than just recommended, it’s necessary since the low velocity means high drop. I would suggest using the PSO 1M2-1 because of its short range rangefinder built into the sight, if you need a x1 sight mount it with the combo mount and a side canter to the front of the gun. Also I’ve rebound my range up and down keys to the side mouse buttons for quick adjustments. Otherwise the leading is just practice, go out into some offline raid, check distance, shoot, and count until you see the smoke from the impact to know how much you should be leading at what ranges
Edit: also remove the key binding where double tapping R drops the magazine, nothing more annoying than panic spamming R in a gunfight and accidentally leaving behind your 20k-40k magazine. It’s not even that much faster anyways
The accuracy of the VSS wasn't nerfed. I still snipe with it, and its actually easier this patch than previous. Just make sure you're not using low durability guns.
@@comradesillyotter1537 @Cut Frasier
In addition to everything Cut Frasier said. You need to go out and experiment with the ammo you intend to use because of how tarkovs zeroing works, each round will impact differently (Sp-5 is the default for the VSS and val)
Look into "slope angle shooting" because its relevent to any shot you take where you're dealing with more than a 15 degree incline / decline in elevation of your target.
Practice , practice, practice.
And most of all, keep good records. Learn how to make an effective "Dope card" or "data card" for your rifle.
Consistency is key.
The laser range finder and reticle range finders in tarkov lie ( they both show line of sight, not actual horizontal range, See more in slope shooting)
My key binds for zeroing are ALT+W and ALT+S because I don't use blindfire ever.
Long range shooting, or even just sub 150m shooting with the vss is rough if you've never sat down and really learned how to snipe.
@@BlindxSide YT seems to be eating my linked comment, so if you get spammed I'm sorry.
I have proof the VSS did get nerfed. the old system had it clocked at 0.01 degree accuracy , 1 MOA is 0.016 degrees meaning the rifle was sub moa compared to the new system at ~3.2 moa Radius which now prints a group that is about 7.4" per 100m.
If you'd like the photos from pre 12.0 showcasing this i'll happily send them
Does make me wonder, does subsonic ammo vs non-subsonic ammo make a audible difference in tarkov? IRL of course it does, but in the wacky world of tarkov does it, and if so how substantial?
Edit: Also a Elite level covert Subsonic user is the most horrifying thing of all though.
It does, when you get shot at with it there's no snap. Just a whizz
I don't hear any difference
someone made a video about it couple of months back (I think it was gigabeef) and came to the conclusion that it makes no difference
The only difference made now is the range at which people hear you from. Subsonic rounds in Tarkov reduce the range from which your shots are heard from just like suppressors do. Other than that though, there's no noticeable difference. This will probably change in the future, as Nikita has stated before that he wants to work on bullets more.
slightly lower audible range, no supersonic crack
HES IMPROVED ITS NOW “EH” VOICE GUY ITS NOT BAD NOW LETS GOOOOO
"they can be found traversing rat routes searching for the plump unarmored vermin that make for easy sustenance" 🤣🤣🤣
here we can see a watchful cameraman waiting for the perfect shot amongst the bushes of Tarkov
I will be aware of these silent but deadly creatures. Thank you Leviticus.
The mp5 leopard likes to keep the mp133 'handy, for close encounters'.
such a high quality video, keep up the work man
it's just astonishing how those wildlife videographers always catch those crazy shots.. well done! :)
I absolutely love the intro, how it's like some animal showcase.
4:32 take that intel bro !
Please do a video on the creature seen at 6:16, I am very curious about that one!
Pretty sure that’s just a gravitational anomaly
@@yourlocalasleeponioperativ4095 stalker fan ?
hey, nice vid. can you make one about the extinct or on the line of extinction species.
8:05 that scav played dead well lol. he got you to stop shooting at him. I wonder if he got away
man ive been using US bullets on AKMs and im having the time of my life. Yea sure i dont kill geared people very fast, but landing so much bullets on someone and then watching him drop like a sack of potatoes on the floor makes my soul ascend
every vid of this type is a k.o. for my diaphragm xD
keep up the good work m8
Man I love this geographic types of videos
Pro tip: you can use an acog 3.5 with quad nods.
Us ASh-12 specimens are rare, but we exist as well! All our shots (except a few that are not in the game) are subsonic.
I've been running a ton more high damage low pen rounds like these examples this wipe. It's been a ton of fun! and nothing is like the feeling of striking terror into the hearts of chads when you take out their knees on the way to the extract with 5.45 SP or 5.56 HP before they can extracat wtih all that delicious gear!
You extract camp factory. Get outta here loser
Two years later but the Uzi has replaced the MP5 for my stealthy ambushing and quick get aways
mmm sphongle in the background to send me for a trip during the vid nice
Thank you for showing these elusive creatures in their natural habitat.
Where's the love for my cobra comrades? Using ammo with the highest bleed chance to kill *any* target. HP ammo ftw. I don't need armor penetration when my enemy didn't bring 5 hemostats.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……..
So many good ones missed!! Parr 2, maybe, please?
this is my niche in every shooter, love having a whole group look around confused all insta killed
this made me want to play Tarkov again and I found a slick in the cache behind giving tree
first time watching and i was not disappointed with this amazing nature documentary
I love the background music great choice
Always look forward to new vids!
Can you try to catch an extract camper specimen and study its genes?
My guess is that they are presumably a result of genetic defects among standard rats.
Loved the content man! All I need is subsonic and I'm there lol! Guess is time to try it out!
this is a really fun concept! please keep it up!
I only Saw this vidéo now and it's really funny because I have exactly the first playstyle you describe hahaha
I've been using subsonic ammo this wipe with great success, especially with the mp7 and the akm
back when i started tarkov (a year or two ago) I tried to use subsonic ammo in a night raid. not sure if they did anything or if it was the suppressor. ended up somehow killing 2 pmcs but getting killed by a scav who somehow say me in the night
You know you are using the vss exactly like how the spetsnaz would have used it. The full auto was just a good feature if they were in a bad situation
Full auto IRL is not used a lot anyway on all weapons. Much less than in games.
@@AnotherSpaceCowBoy « if they were in a bad situation »
cant wait for the grenade launcher user species video!
Thank you for allowing me to find your channel.
Thank you for allowing me to entertain you.
6:15 what the sniper scav doin?
The content i needed to get through waiting for wipe.
I'm not subsonic user...but this gameplay , daym...as if you filmed me in a wild nature :D
5:25
Too satisfying to hear the 'plink'
Love this series! Keep it up.
This was basically a commercial to try to get people to use mostly bad ammunition in Tarkov
The David Attenborough of Tarkov right here
Awesome video as always.
i love this series
Proud vss user
Lmao the "Eh voice guy" intro reminded me of Danny Sexbangs dad lmao.
mmm love national geographic as you get older, perfect for old tarkovians
All you need is David Attenborough to do the voice over and boom a typical David Attenborough Documentary...
This reminds me of the old TF2 ones and I’m in love
Back before Muselk converted to fortnite. His Gaming geographic vids were gold.
This guy has singlehandedly made this "experience" almost seem like a fun videogame that I should reinstall...
With the recent changes the leopards have become more formidable turning them into tigers.. still relatively stealthy but with the recent recoil reductions they are able to use higher tier ammo at lower lvls making them very ferocious
love your vids man :)
finally us gets the respect it deserves
Dude you just described my playstyle but im dumb so I rush players when my cover is blown
A little late with this, but if you mount the laser rangefinder on the right of the VSS barrel mount, you can see the distance reading while looking down the PSO scope
my man forgot the mcx.
good vid tho keep it up
man you pass a inteligence in Reserve Bunker Offices
I feel like watching some good National Geographic documentary voiced by David Attenborough...
The best part about subsonic ammo, Elite Covert Movement. You can practically shoot right beside someone and they won't hear it because of how the skill reduces Noises produced by weapons and equipment are quieter (+60% at elite level). A VSS/AS-VAL which is already very quiet, with a -60% loudness, becomes like a *PIP* to other players. Beware the covert Subbies, they're why I am afraid of dark corners.
Yeah but by the time your skill is Elite the wipe is over or you are really fed up.
Enjoyed this very much
love the david attenborough appeal
Suppressed p90 with subsonic is goated.
All I used last wipe… or the wipe before it’s been almost a year since I played
though audibly quieter it still suffers from the same in game mechanic of all silence weapons can be heard at 100m or less. so. it may be a more silent round. it still audible with in that range. you are relying on your opponent being deaf.
THIS LOOKS LIKE SO MUCH FUN!
This video literally describes my entire play style, wtf
Would love to see you do a spin off of the cycle: frontier for this. Trench gun rats in starport ugh
I'm planning on doing other games on wednesdays. Probably short little snippets at first but maybe longer vids will come. Hunt Showdown has priority after tarkov though
I am this player, I play mostly night and play solo. I attack and move quickly if I don't kill my opponent(s) I re-position. I maintain a 70+ SR as a solo I used to consider myself a honeybadger, now i'm a leopard lol
I need a video on the STIM EPIDEMIC. Drugs are everywhere!!!
the US 7.62 user is a guy who just wants to turn his rifle into a lazar
Finally someone who appreciates me
yooooooo the bad voice guy is back!
ayo my good sir could we please get a stimmy tier list?
This was freaking hilarious!!!
Can't wait until it becomes good voice guy
thought this was an unturned video by the thumbnail
love the content can u do a special on the mk 18
I thought I am just aggressive rat, turns out I am a leopard...
9:08 I felt this in my soul.
With the recoil changes, this is basically lasers for regular guns.
Sounds like crash bandicoot music in the background
A man of culture.