I think it's because few days back india air force extensively use this and bring Rafale from France to india. So everyone was looking for that on net and whola...I explained it
didn´t realize that before reading the comments. But on the other hand, maybe the algorithm is now actually getting better at recommending videos that I am actually interested in. Instead of repeating stuff I know I have watched before, but the Bot above already discarded that information.
If there's no geek we probably would still be using Flint and hunt animals to stay alive and were lucky if we reach the age of 35 without dying from the very common flu. I remember 30 years ago it takes weeks to send a letter to the other side of the world. Now it's instant. LOL most people just can't grasp that leap.
Explained well but background music is too high then the voice so each time when he stops talking i have to reduce my volume as soon as possible and then increase is when he starts speaking again and the process keep going until the end of the video 😊
Husky Corporation like your positive commentthough I think the approach taken is less than ideal ... ANY attempt to move understanding forward in an area of technology ... or even "rediscover" existing bodies of knowledge and refresh and codify them for re-use ... is valuable. Well said
Wow! Imagine drones that can refuel in the air. It will allow for extremely complex and efficient logistics web that makes deliveries around the world extremely cheap. What a time to be a alive!
The US Navy's X47B, which is basically a pilot-less flying computer, has already accomplished this feat autonomously, as in without any human input. It found the tanker, did the approach, hit the basket dead on, took on the required fuel while maintaining an eerily steady formation flight with the Omega refuelling aircrat, disconnected, then it pissed off and landed itself. Put the system into regular fighter aircraft and the pilots can fuel up hands free. Very handy in the dark with bad weather, wouldn't you think?
yup works well and the systems control algorithms are already well known and worked out long ago ... has been so for a long time ... has always been an issue of need and cost of deployment rather than capacity ... at least since the 60's when Northrup developed a good working automated system
Kind of double edged sword, If you automate the process for something that pilots need to constantly practice than the skill will be even harder. This is why I think booms are better than baskets.
Nice idea hope it went well, there is always using a slat inside the noseconethe flight radar signature to filter range to the tanker and transfer final docking via the comms array or alternatives and pop release emergency seal,all at the push of a sequence button wilma ,hmmm scumcious like no skydiving then.
Automating refueling was accomplished with analog systems back in the 70s at Northrup ... This is not new ... just a new approach that is MORE complicated academic exercise to the same old problem
2:35 then what you need the robot for? just use the flgihtsim - and yes, I know that simulators for scientific research don't really need highend graphics but in this case using a rendered graphics image instead of the webcam as an input to the algorithm would give it a more realistic backdrop to train and test against if you have some kind of realistic graphcis
Instead of creating a solution for computer controlling a plane to maneuver its probe to the fueling basket Id first work on stabilizing the basket itself. Adding computer control over the baskets canopy to counter the movement from turbulence and oscillating forces. A solution of the basket would improve the fueling rate of both human and computer controlled aircraft. Would make programming AE aircraft to refuel less complex.
getting a robot that can "intuitively" understand and ANTICIPATE how various flight conditions and configurations will change the flight dynamics of one or both aircraft ... center of lift due to standing waves and turbulence and etc. etc. is a very difficult programming problem ... getting a pilot to understand that ... is easy ...
+David Rahfeldt Yes, it's a difficult problem, but that doesn't stop humans from figuring it out. And they did figure it out. Despite rude people like you.
ROFL ... noting the nature of a thing ... is not rude, it is just observation ... one can argue that the world is not they way we want it ... but that does not change the nature of the physics or reality. Rude to your sensibilities or not, what is - is
Telling a fat person that they are fat is at best an unnecessary communication or observation as it is obvious ... and perhaps you are right ... noting reality is ... always RUDE to someone's sensibilities ... the damn university itself is pretty rude ... it rarely has arranged itself just as our desires or fantasies would have it. So do you blame the university or the person who notes that nature of the reality? eh ?
What does this gentleman do? What is his actully job title? I'm looking for a career to go into, and this is exactly what I want to do, but I don't know what this field is called. Design and biuld the actull robots as well as programming them all in one job.
Yup that sounds promising. Just research the course contents - you are looking for units for control systems, digital signal processing, and perhaps embedded systems as well.
Great! That means so far I'm still on the right track. I'm planning on going to Texas A&M, and they just teamed up with Lockheed Martin on building F-35's, that would be a dream job if I could build some sort of electrical component and install it on a F-35. Thanks!!
Eric W Well if something is smart enough to take over the world it surely can come up with a lot more advanced and efficent designs than humans could ever hope to. For the most part it would not need our tech I believe. Besides, humans make a lot more errors than machines do. As long as the rules can be well defined, a machine wins. Though to be fair, not all can be written as rules just now.
I agree with DB Brennan your wasting your time. What you should be trying to do is automating the BOOM. Using computers on each plane have the computer direct the boom to the receptacle using avionics such as used in simple quad copters and also relieve the pilot and control both the boom and the aircraft momentarily. Anything else I can help you with?
But they didn't showed anything regarding implementation of the simulated data in the robots motions. The last part where both robots move the probe and drogue "as one" is just a feature of the robots control units, where local coordinate system of one robot's tool is translated to second robot as a fixed coordinate system, which he then follows (as to stay motionless relative to that coordinate system). At lest KUKA robots have that feature, it is often used for example in welding when one robot holds a detail and the second has a welder as a tool. The local coordinate system is tied to the welding detail, while the trajectory of programmed motion for the second robot (welder) is relative to that coordinate system.
Since this is an intellectual exercise ... made vastly more complicated by the fact that the folks doing it have no experience actually doing it ... why not take it all the way to a real challenge ... lets make this a situation where the computer allows the plane to mate with and stay connected pumping as the tanker does 3-5 G random aerobatics ... changing the loads and aerodynamics wildly between the vehicles ... Do THAT and i will be impressed ... This other "make it complicated for no reason' stuff does not impress me ... standardize the approach, compensate for altitude and bow wave and automate to to remove pilot angst ... and you can have 'successful mating with nearly every thrust' just got to have sufficient confidence and authority to move directly and cleanly into a lock ... if you "tickle around the hole ... it will just keep wiggling out of your way" there is a time to get your probe out and just ram it home cleanly ... estimate where it will end up when you thrust forward and go for it ... the problem with teaching a computer to do that ... it that egghead engineers with no real experience want to approach this problem like virgins reading poetry to virgins. enough .... build a look up table of corrections and just ram it home boom simple and reliable not a metaphor
Physwe NOPE ... I refuse to stop "spamming ellipses" ... if that offends you .... tough ... learn to be less anal compulsive ... laugh a bit ... and try flexibility instead of righteousness ... ROFL ... I LIKE to do it this way ... and so will continue to do it ... this way ... Yes ... i know formal and correct grammar usage ... and choose to ignore it in favor of my personal preferences ... written many a formal paper ... and when writing casually ... i do it ... ah ... my way !
As the old joke goes ... what is the cheapest way to make a fully operational AI robot ... answer ... sex ... the old fashioned self replicating smart AI system ... make another human ... and program them ...
+David Rahfeldt Nope, once this was done (and it has since been completed), replication can be done very quickly. A human takes ages to be born, mature, learn, etc. While solving the initial problem takes time, replication of the solution is far faster in robotics.
Why trying to control a several tons airplane to hit the lightier basket? Why not control the small target to folow the big plane? It seams much simpler and easier to control the position of the basket with some controlled air surfaces. Maybe a laser in the end of the probe and a light receptor in the basket. At first laser «contact» the basket will follow the laser/probe.
+Oliver Miles It's simplistic but time and training consumming. And the flying boom is controlled by an operator, cumbersome and it still involves a lot of aiming by the plane to refuel. Put wings in the basket, add an aiming system, control it eletronically and it remains simple, compact, with multiple refuelings and mainly, with a very fast connection with minimal training.
+Nuno Girão We're talking about military here. Cost is not the only factor, the tactical advantage having multiples more aircraft continuously in the sky with fewer resources conveys is worth a lot of money.
So- let's pretend I'm a fighter pilot who has been on patrol for 4 hours. I need to "top off" to finish my patrol. I'm ready to refuel, so, I set the computer to refuel. The comuter guides my jet towards the refueling tanker. As I approach, I get the natural buffeting from the tanker. As my plane is about to make contact, a gust throws the refueling "basket" off-point. Would the computer jerk the plane to "catch" the basket? I've seen videos where HUMAN plots back off anf start over. Have these guys taken that into account- or are they still working "in a perfect world"?
The refueling drogue baskets are quite primitive in today's technology. Is this program looking to design control fins on the basket so it's position is controlled compared to just flapping around in front of a 100million f35
Of course he uses an F-16 which receives boom refueling to demonstrate Probe and Drogue refueling with an A340 which wasn't converted into a real tanker
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One of the best videos out there, explains everything in brief without making it too technical or difficult for the viewer to understand
RUclips algorithm: 'Why ofcourse this video is seven years old. Just the ripe age to show it to you.'
It's still interesting. I just wonder how they've progessed.
i actually came from a link
I think it's because few days back india air force extensively use this and bring Rafale from France to india. So everyone was looking for that on net and whola...I explained it
I'm glad youtube has been doing this lately. The information has been getting lost for a while now.
didn´t realize that before reading the comments. But on the other hand, maybe the algorithm is now actually getting better at recommending videos that I am actually interested in. Instead of repeating stuff I know I have watched before, but the Bot above already discarded that information.
He did a great job explaining the whole thing imo!
My thoughts exactly
So u did understand
My thought also
Thank God there are smart people like this in this world. Us dumb ones would be screwed without them.
I said the same inside n saw your comment
Hi dump guy
How the pandemic going
@@nakulsri242 dumb*
You be the real dumb guy.
If there's no geek we probably would still be using Flint and hunt animals to stay alive and were lucky if we reach the age of 35 without dying from the very common flu. I remember 30 years ago it takes weeks to send a letter to the other side of the world. Now it's instant. LOL most people just can't grasp that leap.
Computer Algorithm: "Hey nice shoes, want to refuel?"
Why RUclips recommended a 2012 video in 2020, bcoz the video quality and explanations is ahead of its time
Explained well but background music is too high then the voice so each time when he stops talking i have to reduce my volume as soon as possible and then increase is when he starts speaking again and the process keep going until the end of the video 😊
This kind of technology is very helpful in the aviation and fueling industry. Great job on making a huge difference!
Husky Corporation like your positive commentthough I think the approach taken is less than ideal ... ANY attempt to move understanding forward in an area of technology ... or even "rediscover" existing bodies of knowledge and refresh and codify them for re-use ... is valuable. Well said
Hey I went to college for electrical engineering and instrumentation, this is some cool stuff!
Wow! Imagine drones that can refuel in the air. It will allow for extremely complex and efficient logistics web that makes deliveries around the world extremely cheap. What a time to be a alive!
i wonder this video was made 7 years ago... just in my suggestion during this boring lockdown
your still locked down? i've been back to work for the last 3-4 months. everything is opening back up here, but we still have to wear masks.
@@darkshadowsx5949 yes here in india,specially in north eastern india the condition is serious.But little better now.We need to stay home:(
4:37 When the robots takeover, thats the first thing they will avenge.
The US Navy's X47B, which is basically a pilot-less flying computer, has already accomplished this feat autonomously, as in without any human input.
It found the tanker, did the approach, hit the basket dead on, took on the required fuel while maintaining an eerily steady formation flight with the Omega refuelling aircrat, disconnected, then it pissed off and landed itself.
Put the system into regular fighter aircraft and the pilots can fuel up hands free. Very handy in the dark with bad weather, wouldn't you think?
yup works well and the systems control algorithms are already well known and worked out long ago ... has been so for a long time ... has always been an issue of need and cost of deployment rather than capacity ... at least since the 60's when Northrup developed a good working automated system
Makes you wonder what else they have laying around waiting its turn....
Seriously did no one notice that a340 has 4 engines!!!
Ton of math going behind that control system mechanism...he made it fairly simple to understand
This is great - also needed for UAVs to be able to refuel.
This guy is a natural! Very interesting thing!
If RUclips algorithm has control over this system it'll be pouring 7 years old Chivas into my car and drowning me in petrol
Some smart people working there.
Thanks u sir very nice information .thanks to showing.
Should be called: Teaching a computer to refuel 'FROM' an aeroplane
Amazing video.
I saw robots like that working in CNC machinery.
Great job in control theory...very nyc though
Aeroplane? Those are some hi-tech computers for 1911!
+Red Priest what are you talking about
good explain smart boi😀
Kind of double edged sword, If you automate the process for something that pilots need to constantly practice than the skill will be even harder. This is why I think booms are better than baskets.
Thank you so much. Nice explanation.i was wondering how mid air refuel takes place.
Men , machine, science and technology 😯
Great. Perfect training video for China's PLA.
Nice idea hope it went well, there is always using a slat inside the noseconethe flight radar signature to filter range to the tanker and transfer final docking via the comms array or alternatives and pop release emergency seal,all at the push of a sequence button wilma ,hmmm scumcious like no skydiving then.
Why would you want to take this skill away from a pilot? Doing things like AAR is what makes them so good in a sticky situation.
Automating refueling was accomplished with analog systems back in the 70s at Northrup ...
This is not new ... just a new approach that is MORE complicated academic exercise to the same old problem
Good job
A crystal glass of water...cheers
2:35
then what you need the robot for?
just use the flgihtsim - and yes, I know that simulators for scientific research don't really need highend graphics
but in this case using a rendered graphics image instead of the webcam as an input to the algorithm would give it a more realistic backdrop to train and test against if you have some kind of realistic graphcis
I think their just testing the sensors, not the actual algorithms.
@@honkhonk8009 if you wanna test wether a webcam or lase ranger works on an airplane you'd want to put it in a windtunnel or strap it to an airplane
Instead of creating a solution for computer controlling a plane to maneuver its probe to the fueling basket Id first work on stabilizing the basket itself. Adding computer control over the baskets canopy to counter the movement from turbulence and oscillating forces. A solution of the basket would improve the fueling rate of both human and computer controlled aircraft. Would make programming AE aircraft to refuel less complex.
All Air Forces should adopt boom air refueling
great work!
After watching I started typing 'aerial refueling fails' in RUclips
are you using tcp connections mid air to refuel. Good luck.
a video from 2012 that is uploaded in 1080p and there are still ppl today who upload in 720p
this was 7 years ago...
getting a robot that can "intuitively" understand and ANTICIPATE how various flight conditions and configurations will change the flight dynamics of one or both aircraft ... center of lift due to standing waves and turbulence and etc. etc. is a very difficult programming problem ... getting a pilot to understand that ... is easy ...
+David Rahfeldt Yes, it's a difficult problem, but that doesn't stop humans from figuring it out. And they did figure it out. Despite rude people like you.
ROFL ... noting the nature of a thing ... is not rude, it is just observation ... one can argue that the world is not they way we want it ... but that does not change the nature of the physics or reality. Rude to your sensibilities or not, what is - is
Telling a fat person that they are fat is at best an unnecessary communication or observation as it is obvious ... and perhaps you are right ... noting reality is ... always RUDE to someone's sensibilities ... the damn university itself is pretty rude ... it rarely has arranged itself just as our desires or fantasies would have it. So do you blame the university or the person who notes that nature of the reality? eh ?
dudes got a pretty fly fit on i must admit
Tq for sharing ..kissair here. Possible to have tanker approaching receiver from behind so airliner crew need little training
What about the points of reference? huge difference between that lab and outside..
Cooool, Such minor details will not be revealed on RUclips dude.
Literally looks like the unit seen in Stealth that E.D.I. shoots off the hose when it denies him fuel.
What does this gentleman do? What is his actully job title? I'm looking for a career to go into, and this is exactly what I want to do, but I don't know what this field is called. Design and biuld the actull robots as well as programming them all in one job.
mechatronics engineer, or a control system engineer
Ok thanks! I found that there is a degree call electronic system engineering technology. Is that similar to this?
Yup that sounds promising. Just research the course contents - you are looking for units for control systems, digital signal processing, and perhaps embedded systems as well.
Great! That means so far I'm still on the right track. I'm planning on going to Texas A&M, and they just teamed up with Lockheed Martin on building F-35's, that would be a dream job if I could build some sort of electrical component and install it on a F-35. Thanks!!
Good luck, Texas A&M is a good choice
any follow up to this project 7 years later? wonder whats the current state of this tecnology.
So that's why the basket didn't go whip like crazy
OR ROOFTOP EM DOCKING FOR REARM/REFUEL?
Wonderful
mid air fornification
Was that simulink you used?
All of this testing could have been done in the simulation, The robot arms / physical hardware is redundant
0:46 i wonder where they got that explosion sound from, sounds like arma
Lol
So shaggy left the mystery gang and got a PhD?
Or we could just train our pilots to do this, and avoid giving the future terminator air craft the ability to refuel themselves. Just an thought!
Eric W
Well if something is smart enough to take over the world it surely can come up with a lot more advanced and efficent designs than humans could ever hope to. For the most part it would not need our tech I believe.
Besides, humans make a lot more errors than machines do. As long as the rules can be well defined, a machine wins. Though to be fair, not all can be written as rules just now.
I agree with DB Brennan your wasting your time. What you should be trying to do is automating the BOOM. Using computers on each plane have the computer direct the boom to the receptacle using avionics such as used in simple quad copters and also relieve the pilot and control both the boom and the aircraft momentarily. Anything else I can help you with?
+Iver Jacobsen My ideia too. Control the basket, not the airplane. Am I missing something or these guys are trying to do the hard thing?
Its people like you why the future job of the pilot is uncertain.
But they didn't showed anything regarding implementation of the simulated data in the robots motions. The last part where both robots move the probe and drogue "as one" is just a feature of the robots control units, where local coordinate system of one robot's tool is translated to second robot as a fixed coordinate system, which he then follows (as to stay motionless relative to that coordinate system). At lest KUKA robots have that feature, it is often used for example in welding when one robot holds a detail and the second has a welder as a tool. The local coordinate system is tied to the welding detail, while the trajectory of programmed motion for the second robot (welder) is relative to that coordinate system.
That delay almost caused one of the space shuttles to crash.
Very impressed.
Hacker nerd: I have there up time to boot them😈😈
6:31 quiet impressive. looks asif they were locked
Not all receivers have to shoot the drogue. Sometimes the boomer in the tanker does the probing.
Imagine how this could be done now in 2020.
is P.I.D. used to minimize the error?
keep up these videos!
Very Cool wow!! 😁😁😀
I don't get it. He purposely created the algorithm with a delay..and then fixed it?
Brilliant
Since this is an intellectual exercise ... made vastly more complicated by the fact that the folks doing it have no experience actually doing it ... why not take it all the way to a real challenge ... lets make this a situation where the computer allows the plane to mate with and stay connected pumping as the tanker does 3-5 G random aerobatics ... changing the loads and aerodynamics wildly between the vehicles ...
Do THAT and i will be impressed ...
This other "make it complicated for no reason' stuff does not impress me ...
standardize the approach, compensate for altitude and bow wave and automate to to remove pilot angst ... and you can have 'successful mating with nearly every thrust'
just got to have sufficient confidence and authority to move directly and cleanly into a lock ... if you "tickle around the hole ... it will just keep wiggling out of your way" there is a time to get your probe out and just ram it home cleanly ...
estimate where it will end up when you thrust forward and go for it ...
the problem with teaching a computer to do that ... it that egghead engineers with no real experience want to approach this problem like virgins reading poetry to virgins.
enough ....
build a look up table of corrections and just ram it home
boom simple and reliable
not a metaphor
David Rahfeldt Could you STOP spamming ellipses like that.
Physwe NOPE ... I refuse to stop "spamming ellipses" ... if that offends you .... tough ... learn to be less anal compulsive ... laugh a bit ... and try flexibility instead of righteousness ... ROFL ... I LIKE to do it this way ... and so will continue to do it ... this way ...
Yes ... i know formal and correct grammar usage ... and choose to ignore it in favor of my personal preferences ... written many a formal paper ... and when writing casually ... i do it ... ah ... my way !
David Rahfeldt No, it doesn't offend me, you're just an idiot. Which, on the other hand, was clear from the start. Goodbye!
David Rahfeldt
How weak and pathetic you are ... Rethink your miserable life.
This was done nearly 8 years ago and where is the follow up. why have we not seen this progress
they are drones refuelling autonomously,thats the follow up.Sorry,no Air Force newsletter to sign up.
It's hard because you have to keep in position and have just the right speed
I think Refueling Helicopter is more scary!
Basically PID control on a large scale
pretty cool
The way he pronounces "Controller" 🎶🎵
Very cool
YES, IT'S CALLED CAMERAS/ELECTROMAGNET GRAPPLING PATCH/RC PROBE. NO EXPENSIVE CPU NECESSARY. WINGTIP DEPLOYMENT IS MUCH BETTER.
Soon: Ace Combat esque Arsenal Birds
What types of loop for loop while do while loop.
Time waiting video
So you're teaching robots how to copulate
As the old joke goes ... what is the cheapest way to make a fully operational AI robot ... answer ... sex ... the old fashioned self replicating smart AI system ... make another human ... and program them ...
+David Rahfeldt Nope, once this was done (and it has since been completed), replication can be done very quickly. A human takes ages to be born, mature, learn, etc. While solving the initial problem takes time, replication of the solution is far faster in robotics.
Good
I wouldn't like being on a plane and the another plane coming that close I'd rather take a boat
Why?
plopyorange8100 be afriad it chrashes into the other plane haha
That's why think positive
Why trying to control a several tons airplane to hit the lightier basket? Why not control the small target to folow the big plane? It seams much simpler and easier to control the position of the basket with some controlled air surfaces. Maybe a laser in the end of the probe and a light receptor in the basket. At first laser «contact» the basket will follow the laser/probe.
+Oliver Miles It's simplistic but time and training consumming. And the flying boom is controlled by an operator, cumbersome and it still involves a lot of aiming by the plane to refuel. Put wings in the basket, add an aiming system, control it eletronically and it remains simple, compact, with multiple refuelings and mainly, with a very fast connection with minimal training.
+Nuno Girão We're talking about military here. Cost is not the only factor, the tactical advantage having multiples more aircraft continuously in the sky with fewer resources conveys is worth a lot of money.
+Nuno Girão You still have to have the pilot of the smaller craft flying perfectly relative with the larger tanker craft. That's what this does.
at last someone who has a systems view of the problem
this is the first insightful comment here ... well done !
i would like to understand english enough to apreciate this video... but thanks !
He's smart.
The movie termanator might come true.
So- let's pretend I'm a fighter pilot who has been on patrol for 4 hours. I need to "top off" to finish my patrol. I'm ready to refuel, so, I set the computer to refuel. The comuter guides my jet towards the refueling tanker. As I approach, I get the natural buffeting from the tanker. As my plane is about to make contact, a gust throws the refueling "basket" off-point. Would the computer jerk the plane to "catch" the basket? I've seen videos where HUMAN plots back off anf start over. Have these guys taken that into account- or are they still working "in a perfect world"?
The refueling drogue baskets are quite primitive in today's technology. Is this program looking to design control fins on the basket so it's position is controlled compared to just flapping around in front of a 100million f35
It Takes A Team,
did they forgotbtheres also Copy and Paste buttons
Flying an arrow plane is really tough. Stick to flying airplanes. Unless it's a Piper. Piper makes an Arrow that is pretty good.
How you can simulate turbulent algorithm.? ,
flightsims exist
with turbulence, yes
Of course he uses an F-16 which receives boom refueling to demonstrate Probe and Drogue refueling with an A340 which wasn't converted into a real tanker
Why we need this
Now I can refuel my bike in mid-air.. 😌
0:32 shows f16 model refuelling using a basket