@@museonfilm8919 ... along with much of the rest of the country's businesses that rely so heavily on exploiting a vulnerable workforce that is stigmatised in the corporate media.
Except the problem was the smoke coming from smoking menthol cigarettes, not nicotine. And adults also like colourful things and sweet things, making life miserable for people avoiding risks is not a public health (or medical) practice, it's even a malpractice as the result is bad.
Looks like these tobacco companies have some good friends in the government seeing as they been making big losses lately due to the upsurge of vaping rather than cigs...
The big tobacco got in on vapes late but they're still heavily involved. They've also been behind the push of Zyns, which is a nicotine product that enters the bloodstream via the gums. Those will still be available.
@@Skygrey2943 Zyn has been acquired by a company also making tobacco cigarettes, there are plenty of independent companies making pouches. And if you consider "who is selling cigarettes" by identifying who makes most of the profit from the sale, tobacco companies come last behind sellers and state (mostly state, up to 85% of the profit). Of course smokers come first in the loss by giving a lot of margin to the state and paying in years of earlier death.
Vape companies are owned by tobacco companies, explain to me how it's a "big loss"? Are the profit margins of vapes lower than old fasioned cigarretes?
Yes totally agree with that I had My daughter in 1977 had terry nappys had my son in 1984 had terry nappys had my son in 2000 very late in life had to have disposable I couldn't get terry nappys no one sold them. I absolutely hated the disposables. Hated the plastic monsters with a vengeance. I had nappys washed and on the line by 8am at the latest with a twin tub washer. I wish you could still get a twin tub I hate the washers now
You've no logic. If e-cigarettes are "damaging the enviroment", tell me now HOW washing machines would save it, if the usage of electricity will increase million times?😉 Or you suggest to prohibit washing machines as well and do handwash only?😂 All this "careness" about planet - total rubbush! Power and control over people! Nothing else! What's gonna be the next step? Eating bugs and flies instead of "Sunday roast"? Or maybe these "smart heads in white collars" would order us not to breathe at all, because we're breathing CO2 out? Don't you understand, that ALL of those "demands" belongs to US - users - only! Those, who're making such a "smart" decisions, like that, would NEVER SUFFER from anything! You'll do handwashing without washing powder (of cours... washing powder is a chemical stuff, and it'll "destroy the enviroment"😉... So, use soda or sand, if THEY-ll let you), and at the same time those "smart creators" will laugh at your bottom which you'll keep up, while washing baby's nappies. I'm suggesting you to watch a "Squid game" every day - very bright example of a "bet-shop", where you're - just a horse, who's trying to survive in the "honest" run. Think about it! @@nickda1
They could of course fine all the shops illegally selling them to children and get their money back that way and the rest of us can continue to exercise our right of freedom of choice and not have to bow down to the nanny state. It is pathetic that neither the previous government nor this joke of a new one can actually uphold the laws of the land that already exist.
Ban atleast the packaging! Just like tobacco. I recon governments seeing there ars. Not raking enough in on old baccy. I mean how bad can it get £38 ish for 50g amber leaf. In spain its aroumd £8 . Thats a 5x mark up. For what and for who? Uk's a tax scandal joke
The crystal vape ,the elf bars ,the 4 IN ONE 2400 puffs all now have rechargeable of each of those poducts ,i changed over when they 1st came out and saves quite bit in money too
There's a massive reason as to why leaders are intent on restricting the publics access to nicotine.... No point in me saying why because it will just be removed so i suggest you all dig into it and research why
It's bad for your health that's why. I have never smoked. The idea of smoke going into my lungs sounds disgusting. I imagine it tastes disgusting, too. Don't try to tell me smoking/vaping is not bad for you. Come up with whatever theory you wish; it doesn't change the fact that smoking/vaping is bad for you.
Er, smoking is bad for your health. Its the fact that heart and lung disease costs the NHS millions each year, or have you got some off the wall conspiracy theory to run past us ?
Cigarettes kill people, vape is much safer and nicotine is good for you. The other ingredients in the products are the poison. Nicotine protects against various degenerative diseases. Nicotine is in: tomato, aubergine, celery, courgette, peppers, chillis etc. nicotine patches are not addictive.
I do a lot of walking along public footpaths around the countryside near my home. On one small field alone and in only 2 visits I picked up 4 disposables that had been chucked on to land that will grow the food we eat. I have tried appealing to my community via FB not to do this and the dangers of the chemicals that leach into the soil but I get nil response.
Have cancer rates dropped since vaping replaced smoking? No, I didn't think so. Vaping those chemical flavours directly into the respiratory system seems mad to me.
What happened to litter pickers and public bins ? Not my fault if the government decides to remove litter pickers and refuses to empty public bins , no youth clubs either hence the batteries all over the place , vaping isn’t the end of the world maybe parents should be more forgiving instead of having their teens hide stuff , my daughter now uses the kitchen bin after finally confessing , before that she was throwing them anywhere to hide the evidence . I’ll nanny my kids myself and won’t be told how to despose if the vapes , put more public bins out and empty them .
@@SophieSunshine-hn8wd allowing your child (who is clearly quite young if she’s still living at home) to vape is such an L parenting you mfs ain’t cut out to raise a child into an adult that’s why kids keep getting “worse” because a bunch of you lot can’t raise em right in the first place, what do you expect to happen ?
The disposable vape helped millions quit smoking cigarettes. Cigarette companies losing money, this is their way of getting it back. If younger kids are vaping it’s on the shop that sold it to them, they should get banned from selling vapes.
Wonder why they never attack alcohol. This will change nothing. The none English shop ownership will just sell them under the counter like they do with real cigarettes.
this is more toxic than cigarettes. Sad to see we massively manufacture products that harm people and environment while having zero benefit (except for those who make and retail them maybe)
There is no real reason to ban cigarettes as they are less harmful than much of the food products being sold which do far more harm to health than tobacco.
for the same reason alcohol isn't banned, because if you are addicted they can tax the sh1t out of it knowing you will still buy it. They get nothing and are not able to price set with vapes or any additional taxes they apply specifically to cigarettes. They want to get rid of the convenience of disposable ones and sure, the hard smokers will go to refillable vapes or (as thts a minefield to get started in when you don't know anything) they know most people cant be done with the bother and all that comes with it, so will go back to smoking cigarettes and paying 15 quid a pack. And anyone else will just buy imported disposable ones from China off ebay instead, and then you have no idea whats in it as none of it is regulated.
@@andrewgreen1940 If we all go around scrutinising each other’s “bad choices “ we’d end up in an ultra authoritarian society where nothing enjoyable is allowed.
What is stopping you from staying away from smokers? I'll open your eyes wildly: kids are not vaping only - they're drinking alcohol as well. So?...😉 Any demands to close-down all pubs, restaurants, bars? Or maybe you'd like to see a "moral police teams" to run on X-Mas day amd check-up every single house? Or, perhaps, Waitrose amd Sainsbury's will stop selling alcohol? 😂 Maybe PARENTS and SCHOOLS should change the education way and teach properly from the beginning of baby's life, instead of prohibiting everything? Maybe our kids should have more posibilities to be busy after school-time, such as sport, art, libraries, etc...? And ALL of these facilities MUST BE FOR FREE! D'you know, how much is a ticket for 2 hours for an ice rink (for instance)? Google it! Of course, parents can't afford it! Or how much is a music lessons with REAL teacher? Or real artist?.. etc... Here is the answer on all questions. Thats why kids are "too free", so they're doing whatever they want. And however, if kids want to buy something - they'll find the way how to do it (from e-cigs to "line powder" and alcohol). @@andrewgreen1940
so you are in favour of legalizing cocaine, heroine, meth and LSD? also public nudity is a personal choice, so we should let everyone walk around in public with everything on show in front of children?
New headline: Zoomers read "Disposable vapes to be banned" and think Vapes are getting banned. Either zoomers don't know what disposable means, or they can't even read a short sentence properly.
I say: do with vaping what they do with cigarettes, Increase the age of prohibition each year. Put the items in vomit green packaging behind the counter behind sliding doors.
A very sensible move. When selling children's cigarettes in fives were banned, and it went to tens and twenties it completely stopped children from smoking. Except it didn't.
But it helped drastically reduce the number of children getting addicted. In the 1950s, vastly more people began smoking as children due to the easy availability of cigarettes. Now it's a tiny fraction of that.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I'd agree, but stopping is better than reducing. It's possibly the only thing you can legally buy to invest which has zero health benefits. Quite the opposite.
@@philc1773what about alcohol?😉 So, why then they're not prohibiting pubs, bars, restaurants or supermarkets?😉 Mega-corporations need only one thing - MONEY. And government wants another things - POWER AMD CONTROL OVER PEOPLE! Nothing else! West was laughing over N.Korea or Stalin? Now look at the mirror... D'you like it?😉
@@yuliyaavenberg7463 No not alcohol. However, they will increase the vat on it in the budget! Tip, buy now! Unlike Stalin, these actions are methodically planned over decades. A systematic approach to create a tyrannical state.....Do I like it? Is that a joke?
Good!! They were ment to use these to stop smoking tobacco but I know most vapers have never smoked real tobacco meaning that this is a issue not a remedy.
Most sell refillable liquids for vape cartridges. Thats how it started off. I have had a refillable on and off for years. Definitely helps to get off smoking but if you take it back up a vape is better. Refillables are cheaper too.
@@museonfilm8919 they are not pointless when you can turn your drug money into nice clean taxed earnings, only problem is that they make so much money they need to have 5 on every street to stop thier spare bedrooms being full to the brim with pallets of cash.
"they were meant to quit smoking", no, they were meant to avoid smoking. It's smoking, not vaping, that kills people. Would you prefer those hypothetical one million people to smoke first? (hypothetical as they don't even stay vapers, another big difference between smoking and vaping, even in ex-smokers half of them quit vaping in a couple of years…).
@@qunngiaqti well, scale, smoking/smoke (incl. wood or other plants) is, by far, more harmful and more impacting. The food itself is not causing much issues, and even the over eating, despite being a far larger issue, is still way behind smoking. Same for pollution (well, depends a bit on where).
@@claudebbg Oh dear! where are you living. 1 person in a 100 is now coeliac (and estimates say there are hundred of thousands of undiagnosed cases) which is casing massive issues with mal nutrition due to the loss of the lining of the intestines that absorbs nutrition from food. So think on next time you having a sharting incident could be you are on the way to becoming coeliac. People are not over eating they are actually undereating, too much of what is being sold as food is actually just chemically produced addictive drugs disguised as food and very dangerous to the health of people. Until people learn what is food there is going to continue to be these problems. Look up the massive symptom and effects of coeliac for yourself. Uncontrollable Diarrhoea, hair loss, eye sight problems, nasty extremely itchy bilateral rashes, fluid retention and swollen legs and feet, temper control issues and other behavioural problems. The amount of health problems which are basically mal nutrition is the major health issue we currently have.
@@qunngiaqti I live in France. I may interest you in a paper putting numbers on your statement from Mayo (DOI: 10.1016 j.mayocp.2019.02.019), the prevalence of identified cases is growing to 1%, "real" prevalence is estimated at 5%, there are multiple hypothesis about the growth (including growing diagnosis & growing exposure to factors). Let's take the 5% and suppose it's worldwide (it seems to be but not everywhere, think Japan, same industrialized processes, more processed food but far less exposure to current wheat species), smoking* remains at the same time far worse (as a YLL/YLD factor) and far more prevalent (nearly 3 times higher). For both, alternatives are a good idea (simple, easy to switch, already accessible) to eliminate an important amount of YLD/YLL and are both preventive and curative. *there are other forms of tobacco use, very regional, but very toxic. Those are also easily replaceable by already existing forms as the toxicity comes from other substances (literally adding poison) and from very dirty processing.
@@claudebbg Hmm so you think the loss of years figures are more important than real life. These figures are based on statistics rather than facts. Lung cancers are primarily industrial diseases with lungs cancer not caring if you smoke or not. The 50/50 break has ben consistent over the years and to this day shows no signs of changing. Whereas diseases caused by Mal nutrition are on the increase but because they fall into so many different categories they are not considered as one group.
Since these disposable capes came out on shelf’s all I see is kids walking along going to school smoking them it’s terrible it’s not nice to see at all them they throw them away they are lay everywhere in the streets everywhere you look there is these vapes in people’s gardens on the streets on the roads .i myself do smoke cigarettes but don’t smoke vapes they make me cough too much so god knows what it’s doing to young children’s lungs that’s not even fully developed yet .something needs to change for kids health more than anything they all think it’s cool 😎 but not realising what it can cause health wise
Catherine, we are making a much bigger deal about teens smoking. i am an elder millenial and we started smoking age 9 and some even 8 . i have since stopped because you know i don't exactly want to puff black smoke but eventually everyone stops.
I agree with this ban tbh . Disposable vapes are extremly wasteful and the amount of people who NEVER smoked a day in their life using these things is appauling . These should be an aid to stop smoking / healthier option but have become a FAD .
And how many cases of "exploding" disposable vapes have there been? I'm assuming your saying this because they use lithium-ion batteries? Like the ones that is in every single mobile phone that the majority of people carry around with them every day.
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Oh no!! No more vape shops...that means there will be double the amount of Turkish barbers on my high street!!
That's okay, they can just hang around their doorways as per usual, and wait for the next shipment of imported labour.
@@museonfilm8919 ... along with much of the rest of the country's businesses that rely so heavily on exploiting a vulnerable workforce that is stigmatised in the corporate media.
There will still be vape shops, it's disposables they're getting shut of
@@museonfilm8919
You really think, govenment do not know anything. Yiur govenment is very clever. Get a life
They want us back on cigarettes cuz they losing money for tobacco.
Or. Just get a non-disposable one?
Hit the nail on the head there, all vapes made in China also so they made mega money for the years they've been on sale
Too much nicotine.....protecting the vaxed.....
Thailand bans vapes now, but cigarettes are fine coz they get huge tax revenue
I use a pod, so I’m ok for now
They stopped menthol cigarettes to stop kids from wanting to start nicotine products, then made colourful sweet flavoured nicotine sticks..
I still smoke menthol cigarettes.
@@AnnHollowell-l1v which ones? I can't get them anywhere
Except the problem was the smoke coming from smoking menthol cigarettes, not nicotine.
And adults also like colourful things and sweet things, making life miserable for people avoiding risks is not a public health (or medical) practice, it's even a malpractice as the result is bad.
@@theconspiracyfactualist.144 Sterling dual. They're in a silver packet. £6.75 for ten. They do blackcurrant flavour too.
Looks like these tobacco companies have some good friends in the government seeing as they been making big losses lately due to the upsurge of vaping rather than cigs...
It's the same major shareholders in all businesses. Im not sure they will be too bothered either way
The big tobacco got in on vapes late but they're still heavily involved. They've also been behind the push of Zyns, which is a nicotine product that enters the bloodstream via the gums. Those will still be available.
@@Skygrey2943it's about the shareholders, not the company name.
@@Skygrey2943 Zyn has been acquired by a company also making tobacco cigarettes, there are plenty of independent companies making pouches.
And if you consider "who is selling cigarettes" by identifying who makes most of the profit from the sale, tobacco companies come last behind sellers and state (mostly state, up to 85% of the profit). Of course smokers come first in the loss by giving a lot of margin to the state and paying in years of earlier death.
Vape companies are owned by tobacco companies, explain to me how it's a "big loss"? Are the profit margins of vapes lower than old fasioned cigarretes?
Banned from sale but still legal to import them……🤔 you couldn’t make it up 😂
This is a very backwards social system...how backwards you didn't ask? Well, so backwards that the backwards people are in charge.
Should ban disposable nappies and return to washing them.
Yes totally agree with that I had My daughter in 1977 had terry nappys had my son in 1984 had terry nappys had my son in 2000 very late in life had to have disposable I couldn't get terry nappys no one sold them. I absolutely hated the disposables. Hated the plastic monsters with a vengeance. I had nappys washed and on the line by 8am at the latest with a twin tub washer. I wish you could still get a twin tub I hate the washers now
Well said.
@@libbybethuk Nothing wrong with the washers today my mums washer has never had a problem with hers although she never buys cheap rubbish
Ikr
You've no logic. If e-cigarettes are "damaging the enviroment", tell me now HOW washing machines would save it, if the usage of electricity will increase million times?😉 Or you suggest to prohibit washing machines as well and do handwash only?😂
All this "careness" about planet - total rubbush! Power and control over people! Nothing else! What's gonna be the next step? Eating bugs and flies instead of "Sunday roast"? Or maybe these "smart heads in white collars" would order us not to breathe at all, because we're breathing CO2 out? Don't you understand, that ALL of those "demands" belongs to US - users - only! Those, who're making such a "smart" decisions, like that, would NEVER SUFFER from anything! You'll do handwashing without washing powder (of cours... washing powder is a chemical stuff, and it'll "destroy the enviroment"😉... So, use soda or sand, if THEY-ll let you), and at the same time those "smart creators" will laugh at your bottom which you'll keep up, while washing baby's nappies. I'm suggesting you to watch a "Squid game" every day - very bright example of a "bet-shop", where you're - just a horse, who's trying to survive in the "honest" run. Think about it! @@nickda1
It won't bloody stop kids buying them.
Yh true as a under 18 I have no plans to stop I don’t really care what the government says . My lungs my rules
@@David_Michealsonthey won’t do sh**t about it. I am 15+. And I still smoke disposable one and no one will or can tell me sh**t
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@@David_Michealsonpussy smoke😂😂
@@David_Michealson ... until you demand free treatment on the NHS, then it wasn't your fault, right?
They Tax 17% of the total value of a 20 box + an extra £6.33 per 20. They get nothing for vapes. Government is broke and need that Tax.
They could of course fine all the shops illegally selling them to children and get their money back that way and the rest of us can continue to exercise our right of freedom of choice and not have to bow down to the nanny state. It is pathetic that neither the previous government nor this joke of a new one can actually uphold the laws of the land that already exist.
Ban atleast the packaging!
Just like tobacco.
I recon governments seeing there ars. Not raking enough in on old baccy.
I mean how bad can it get £38 ish for 50g amber leaf. In spain its aroumd £8 .
Thats a 5x mark up. For what and for who?
Uk's a tax scandal joke
The crystal vape ,the elf bars ,the 4 IN ONE 2400 puffs all now have rechargeable of each of those poducts ,i changed over when they 1st came out and saves quite bit in money too
They band cannabis theres more on the streets then ever what joke
Protect the environment…..what bollocks
Refillable vapes are so much cheaper, why does anyone waste their money on these stupid devices.
I've started to notice them everywhere on the pavement, and in the gutters.
@@museonfilm8919Same. Even more than nitros cannisters.
There's a massive reason as to why leaders are intent on restricting the publics access to nicotine....
No point in me saying why because it will just be removed so i suggest you all dig into it and research why
It's bad for your health that's why. I have never smoked. The idea of smoke going into my lungs sounds disgusting. I imagine it tastes disgusting, too. Don't try to tell me smoking/vaping is not bad for you. Come up with whatever theory you wish; it doesn't change the fact that smoking/vaping is bad for you.
I've no idea. If you refuse to mention it, I'll assume it doesn't exist.
Er, smoking is bad for your health. Its the fact that heart and lung disease costs the NHS millions each year, or have you got some off the wall conspiracy theory to run past us ?
How about try and say it and see if it gets removed 😅
@GariSullivan
I didn't say smoking is good for anyone I said there's a reason why nicotine access is being restricted....
That was very quick and easy to get rid of why not do the same with cigarettes? I love a vape while driving much better than a cigarette
How extraordinary it is ok to vape but not to smoke a cigarette. hmm kettles and pots.
The man in the high castle talks to his friends
@@Ninjjadog lol
Cigarettes kill people, vape is much safer and nicotine is good for you. The other ingredients in the products are the poison. Nicotine protects against various degenerative diseases. Nicotine is in: tomato, aubergine, celery, courgette, peppers, chillis etc. nicotine patches are not addictive.
let's just ban everything, spoil sport
Ban like the XL Bully that are still being sold as puppies, still off lead no muzzle ? We really are this stupid
how many people were vapping when you was watching this lol 😂😂😂
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There is nothing to be gained by either smoking tobacco or using vapes.
But of course eating many food products available today which are far more dangerous to health than smoking is not a problem.
Bet you are the pinnacle of human health and do nothing that isn’t entirely beneficial to mind and soul you muppet
Well there is for the government if everyone goes back to smoking cigarettes.
Opens it more to the black market!!!!
How has the names Black Friday and Black Market managed to avoided the wrath of the crazed woke army in 2024?,
the thought just occured to me. HA!
@@almartin115 lmao 🤣 😂
Nope Because.
They not banning vapes. Just banning the dumb ass disposable ones priced to attract children.
Elf bars standard is 20mg 9f nicotine. For reference, a refillable vape user trying to quit after 10+ years of smoking might start on 12mg.
That's what I've done and I'm on 3mg now.
Omg the government is telling us what we can and can't do again.
If I want to smoke a cigarette puff a vape it's no one's business
:/ what if we applied the same logic to Lucy letby?
Get a non-disposable one. Hope this helps
@@sameerishaque7635 I reckon Lucy Letby could've done with a puff on a vape.
And "Asian" vape gangs...
@@sameerishaque7635Your post makes no sense.
nanny state at it again
where is the damage proof ,the environment isn't a person ,give your head a wobble
Don't worry, I can tell you're addicted to vapes
I do a lot of walking along public footpaths around the countryside near my home.
On one small field alone and in only 2 visits I picked up 4 disposables that had been chucked on to land that will grow the food we eat. I have tried appealing to my community via FB not to do this and the dangers of the chemicals that leach into the soil but I get nil response.
Fumes from aeroplanes and all trasport more damaging than cigarettes...
Ok and? That's not relevant at all
Have cancer rates dropped since vaping replaced smoking? No, I didn't think so. Vaping those chemical flavours directly into the respiratory system seems mad to me.
What happened to litter pickers and public bins ? Not my fault if the government decides to remove litter pickers and refuses to empty public bins , no youth clubs either hence the batteries all over the place , vaping isn’t the end of the world maybe parents should be more forgiving instead of having their teens hide stuff , my daughter now uses the kitchen bin after finally confessing , before that she was throwing them anywhere to hide the evidence . I’ll nanny my kids myself and won’t be told how to despose if the vapes , put more public bins out and empty them .
@@SophieSunshine-hn8wd allowing your child (who is clearly quite young if she’s still living at home) to vape is such an L parenting you mfs ain’t cut out to raise a child into an adult that’s why kids keep getting “worse” because a bunch of you lot can’t raise em right in the first place, what do you expect to happen ?
The disposable vape helped millions quit smoking cigarettes.
Cigarette companies losing money, this is their way of getting it back.
If younger kids are vaping it’s on the shop that sold it to them, they should get banned from selling vapes.
ban off license stores from selling vapes, only big supermarket chains should sell them as they always do id checks before sale
Wonder why they never attack alcohol. This will change nothing. The none English shop ownership will just sell them under the counter like they do with real cigarettes.
For obvious reasons
Most vapes have now have added the same in a rechargeable of the same brands (i use recharagble) ,plus they worrk out cheaper just buying the pods
Terrible to see the young kids on the way home from school in the afternoon vaping and spewing out all that evil vapour
i know i rather see them to chew on the cig and spewing that angel smoke.
But will still sell tobacco and refillable vape 😂
The government have no clue it’s truly frustrating
Single use vapes are more destructive than ordinary tobacco and refillables
I work in a vape shop, we welcome this from a business sence, but they will just go to pod styles devices.
this is more toxic than cigarettes. Sad to see we massively manufacture products that harm people and environment while having zero benefit (except for those who make and retail them maybe)
Guess I'll go back to smoking lol
Tha was me tha 😂
Or just get a proper vape
That's what they want.
How about get a proper vape?
@@huxy6719exactly
Good idea. No-one needs vapes any more than they need cigarettes.
all about control ,
More power feed for the government
Health actually!
@@Cherrytune386 yes the health of the controller so they dont flip their lid
@@Cherrytune386 if it was about health don't you think they would have banned alcohol and cigarettes by now ?
Nanny says no
This just means more people will end up smoking normal cigarettes
yes and the government gets over 40% of the total sale of tobacco.
That's the idea
Good. Stop smoking and vaping. I found Jesus to help me with my addictions. ❤️🔥✝️
i don’t understand why tabacco isn’t band completely i don’t see the point in banning one thing and not the other
There is no real reason to ban cigarettes as they are less harmful than much of the food products being sold which do far more harm to health than tobacco.
@@qunngiaqtino answer because they fat and know which they would rather😂
Because the government get a fortune from the tobacco tax, they aren't going to ban that, they'll lose billions.
for the same reason alcohol isn't banned, because if you are addicted they can tax the sh1t out of it knowing you will still buy it. They get nothing and are not able to price set with vapes or any additional taxes they apply specifically to cigarettes. They want to get rid of the convenience of disposable ones and sure, the hard smokers will go to refillable vapes or (as thts a minefield to get started in when you don't know anything) they know most people cant be done with the bother and all that comes with it, so will go back to smoking cigarettes and paying 15 quid a pack. And anyone else will just buy imported disposable ones from China off ebay instead, and then you have no idea whats in it as none of it is regulated.
Cigarette sales generate significant tax revenue for the government, which is why they won’t ban them, same for alcohol
It means they will have to use non disposable ones like they were doing before.
I dont even think its for the benefits of the tobacco companies as they wanna ban that outside...its just stupidity all around
Good.
Another deal for the local dealer
People seriously need to stop being the gestapo about other peoples choices.
The pathologically authoritarian Left can't help themselves
...they're the know-it-all good guys, dontcha know?!
Because your bad choices affect other people.... and addicts don't really have choices.
@@andrewgreen1940 If we all go around scrutinising each other’s “bad choices “ we’d end up in an ultra authoritarian society where nothing enjoyable is allowed.
What is stopping you from staying away from smokers? I'll open your eyes wildly: kids are not vaping only - they're drinking alcohol as well. So?...😉 Any demands to close-down all pubs, restaurants, bars? Or maybe you'd like to see a "moral police teams" to run on X-Mas day amd check-up every single house? Or, perhaps, Waitrose amd Sainsbury's will stop selling alcohol? 😂
Maybe PARENTS and SCHOOLS should change the education way and teach properly from the beginning of baby's life, instead of prohibiting everything? Maybe our kids should have more posibilities to be busy after school-time, such as sport, art, libraries, etc...? And ALL of these facilities MUST BE FOR FREE! D'you know, how much is a ticket for 2 hours for an ice rink (for instance)? Google it! Of course, parents can't afford it! Or how much is a music lessons with REAL teacher? Or real artist?.. etc... Here is the answer on all questions. Thats why kids are "too free", so they're doing whatever they want. And however, if kids want to buy something - they'll find the way how to do it (from e-cigs to "line powder" and alcohol). @@andrewgreen1940
so you are in favour of legalizing cocaine, heroine, meth and LSD? also public nudity is a personal choice, so we should let everyone walk around in public with everything on show in front of children?
Just ban vapes altogether and only make available them on the NHS to smokers 5hat have to prove they smoke and want to give up.
Will people not just get them online? 🧐
Yes they are banning the "sale" of vapes, they cant ban people from buying from outside UK. Vaping is not becoming illegal.
New headline: Zoomers read "Disposable vapes to be banned" and think Vapes are getting banned.
Either zoomers don't know what disposable means, or they can't even read a short sentence properly.
I say: do with vaping what they do with cigarettes, Increase the age of prohibition each year. Put the items in vomit green packaging behind the counter behind sliding doors.
A very sensible move.
When selling children's cigarettes in fives were banned, and it went to tens and twenties it completely stopped children from smoking.
Except it didn't.
But it helped drastically reduce the number of children getting addicted. In the 1950s, vastly more people began smoking as children due to the easy availability of cigarettes. Now it's a tiny fraction of that.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I'd agree, but stopping is better than reducing.
It's possibly the only thing you can legally buy to invest which has zero health benefits. Quite the opposite.
Black market vapes gonna be huge, stockpile now. Business will be booming 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
So many dumb comments here! Most things produced with a one time use should be banned.
Not seen one comment on how wasteful it is. Mindless people
Population must be on the rise.
Its not declining fast enough, hence the action being taken.....nicotine affecting MRNA, who would have thought?
@@philc1773what about alcohol?😉 So, why then they're not prohibiting pubs, bars, restaurants or supermarkets?😉 Mega-corporations need only one thing - MONEY. And government wants another things - POWER AMD CONTROL OVER PEOPLE! Nothing else! West was laughing over N.Korea or Stalin? Now look at the mirror... D'you like it?😉
@@yuliyaavenberg7463 No not alcohol. However, they will increase the vat on it in the budget! Tip, buy now! Unlike Stalin, these actions are methodically planned over decades. A systematic approach to create a tyrannical state.....Do I like it? Is that a joke?
Buy in bulk , sell for more when there banned. Thank me later
Didn’t say anything when they came out. In fact you thought it was a good idea 🙄
Good!! They were ment to use these to stop smoking tobacco but I know most vapers have never smoked real tobacco meaning that this is a issue not a remedy.
Look at all the kiddies being mad they cant smoke their cotton candy bs and completely litter the public with the disposables lmao
Unregulated = tax dodged😂😂😂
Can’t wait to be a millionaire half the country are hooked
Can any politician please explain.
No more european vape shots
Why not just BAN EVERYTHING.
Oh don't worry they will never ban alcohol and cigarettes.
Good, streets are littered with the bloody things. I see them everywhere, all over the pavement, grasses verges, gutters, when I'm walking the dog.
I dont vape but feel sorry for the wee vape shops that have popped up everywhere in the past 5yrs. They be screwed now.
Most sell refillable liquids for vape cartridges. Thats how it started off. I have had a refillable on and off for years. Definitely helps to get off smoking but if you take it back up a vape is better. Refillables are cheaper too.
That's okay, they can become pointless barber shops or fast food chicken outlets.
@@museonfilm8919 they are not pointless when you can turn your drug money into nice clean taxed earnings, only problem is that they make so much money they need to have 5 on every street to stop thier spare bedrooms being full to the brim with pallets of cash.
@@museonfilm8919 you think they are pointless ?
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They will still sell them in their corner shops though, they dont care
why can ban a cigarette?
The government get too much money from tobacco and not vapes.
A bit late why wait to next summer
Oh dear, ban everything
There's probably billions already made that need to be sold first.
What is the sense of banning something but importing the same thing??!😮
I’m the Scouse lad 😂😂☠️
your accent is pretty. But you overdid it for effect . i know what you are tryna do lol!
Half hearted, HMG still cannot get the act right.
What will they use in prisons
I saw a pregnant woman vaping this week. Another SEN child .
the current crop of young gals. can't tell them NOTHING until its too late
Ban Horses on British Streets. Clean up Campaign!💩💩💩
Yes yes bann. 500.000.000
All those batterys
Yeah I'm sure this'll work, when every 2nd shop I see sells dodgy tobacco how in the hell are they expecting to control vapes as well 🤣
And yet they thought it was good to use them.. 🤦👎
15% is the majority?
There be on the black market then!
About 5 years too late.
Unregulated? Prevention is key!
Means bugger-all to me...
It means underground vapes stupid
"they were meant to quit smoking", no, they were meant to avoid smoking. It's smoking, not vaping, that kills people. Would you prefer those hypothetical one million people to smoke first? (hypothetical as they don't even stay vapers, another big difference between smoking and vaping, even in ex-smokers half of them quit vaping in a couple of years…).
Why worry about smoking when so much of the food chain is now causing health problems which a way way worse than smoking.
@@qunngiaqti well, scale, smoking/smoke (incl. wood or other plants) is, by far, more harmful and more impacting.
The food itself is not causing much issues, and even the over eating, despite being a far larger issue, is still way behind smoking. Same for pollution (well, depends a bit on where).
@@claudebbg Oh dear! where are you living. 1 person in a 100 is now coeliac (and estimates say there are hundred of thousands of undiagnosed cases) which is casing massive issues with mal nutrition due to the loss of the lining of the intestines that absorbs nutrition from food. So think on next time you having a sharting incident could be you are on the way to becoming coeliac. People are not over eating they are actually undereating, too much of what is being sold as food is actually just chemically produced addictive drugs disguised as food and very dangerous to the health of people. Until people learn what is food there is going to continue to be these problems. Look up the massive symptom and effects of coeliac for yourself. Uncontrollable Diarrhoea, hair loss, eye sight problems, nasty extremely itchy bilateral rashes, fluid retention and swollen legs and feet, temper control issues and other behavioural problems. The amount of health problems which are basically mal nutrition is the major health issue we currently have.
@@qunngiaqti I live in France.
I may interest you in a paper putting numbers on your statement from Mayo (DOI: 10.1016 j.mayocp.2019.02.019), the prevalence of identified cases is growing to 1%, "real" prevalence is estimated at 5%, there are multiple hypothesis about the growth (including growing diagnosis & growing exposure to factors).
Let's take the 5% and suppose it's worldwide (it seems to be but not everywhere, think Japan, same industrialized processes, more processed food but far less exposure to current wheat species), smoking* remains at the same time far worse (as a YLL/YLD factor) and far more prevalent (nearly 3 times higher).
For both, alternatives are a good idea (simple, easy to switch, already accessible) to eliminate an important amount of YLD/YLL and are both preventive and curative.
*there are other forms of tobacco use, very regional, but very toxic. Those are also easily replaceable by already existing forms as the toxicity comes from other substances (literally adding poison) and from very dirty processing.
@@claudebbg Hmm so you think the loss of years figures are more important than real life. These figures are based on statistics rather than facts. Lung cancers are primarily industrial diseases with lungs cancer not caring if you smoke or not. The 50/50 break has ben consistent over the years and to this day shows no signs of changing. Whereas diseases caused by Mal nutrition are on the increase but because they fall into so many different categories they are not considered as one group.
Back on Cigarette...!
Since these disposable capes came out on shelf’s all I see is kids walking along going to school smoking them it’s terrible it’s not nice to see at all them they throw them away they are lay everywhere in the streets everywhere you look there is these vapes in people’s gardens on the streets on the roads .i myself do smoke cigarettes but don’t smoke vapes they make me cough too much so god knows what it’s doing to young children’s lungs that’s not even fully developed yet .something needs to change for kids health more than anything they all think it’s cool 😎 but not realising what it can cause health wise
Catherine, we are making a much bigger deal about teens smoking. i am an elder millenial and we started smoking age 9 and some even 8 . i have since stopped because you know i don't exactly want to puff black smoke but eventually everyone stops.
I agree with this ban tbh . Disposable vapes are extremly wasteful and the amount of people who NEVER smoked a day in their life using these things is appauling . These should be an aid to stop smoking / healthier option but have become a FAD .
Because now they realise the damage they can do o ye lungs
GOOD!
FINALLY!
More nanny state!
Welcome to the vape black market 🤑 that will be £11.99 my bro
Can’t wait for those schweet discounts on bulk purchases 🙏🙏
Daft
Thank God, the amount of fat unemployed teenagers outside my shop is ridiculous.
Aaaahhhhhh!!!!
them vapes are explosive
And how many cases of "exploding" disposable vapes have there been? I'm assuming your saying this because they use lithium-ion batteries? Like the ones that is in every single mobile phone that the majority of people carry around with them every day.
@@mikeyh78 yep 100% agree. Also don’t forget they are also in all those new EVs driving about too.
Ve vill take ze vapes mien fuher
Woof woof
Now there will be more fruit and vegetable eaters. Good for your health and ❤