This will NOT make motogp more exciting, it will make it more sellable to people who doesn't really give a shit about motogp, they just want to see crashes, controversy and off track rivalries.
@@mikedominickthis has always been my argument. people want motogp to grow yet stagnate and retreat. worries? relevant, but lets think from a business perspective- more viewers (potentially), also equates to more potential financial gain. and more financial gain means more growth for the series. i for one am looking forward to how this pans out
I could see them using MotoGP for the company brand and renaming the highest division to Moto1. So they still could use MotoGP but also simplify and align the divisions.
tbh MotoGP doesn't make sense, as Moto2 and Moto3 are also Grand Prix. MotoGP being the name of the entire thing makes way more sense. I agree that they can find a better name than Moto1 though
There's absolutely nothing in this video that allays my fears... Liberty Media has had a large hand in the great dumbing down of F1. Turning their back on traditional venues for a cash grab in the USA and Arab nations, endless race interruptions with safety cars to try and bunch the field up, nods to the woke mob (banning grid girls!) Insane entry prices that cannot be afforded by most true fans. And the embarrassing turning of the sport into an evening soap opera ('Drivel to Survive'.) If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it.
Liberty media just buys racing series and they turn them into cashgrabs aiming at people that have no idea about motorsports in general. F1 is a prime example, they wanted to push the sport more in the us, and ruined the european nature of the sport in the process. Things like lots of races in the us, american-style pre and post race stuff and netflix "documentaries" about tthe sport have ruined f1, at least for the "old" generation. I bet that when they acquire motogp they will remove races in europe and east asia, where there is a huge fanbase of the motorcycle culture just because they want to bring it to the us, thus turning motogp into a soulless competition that disregards its history and its fanbase. I get that LM is a company and companies only aim at maximising their assets and their earnings but it's sad for the fans and the sport itself, seeing the old style motogp slowly fade away.
Before liberty media, F1 teams especially the mid field and bottom ones are loosing money significantly and most go bankrupt. Now, F1 teams has almost 10x their value. As an example, Lawrence Stroll purchased Force India in 2018 for $100m. Now in 2024 the Aston Martin F1 Team is worth over $1B, Lawrence Stroll has more than 10x his investment and as an added bonus he also was able to put his son Lance Stroll into F1. Even the bottom feeder teams like Williams, Sauber, Haas is making profit from F1 which is why Andretti desperately wants to join F1, but established teams does not want that because they would get less money as the price money from F1 would get devided from 10 teams into 11 if Andretti is allowed to join.
I was a huge fan of moto gp and 500 gp for decades. As an Australian , I would sit up late at night and into the early hours of the morning watching our local heroes doing battle on the world stage . I would ride half way across the country to camp out at Phillip Island or Eastern Creek when the circus rolled in each year . Sadly Moto GP is no longer available on free to air TV in Australia . With the cost of living being what it is , i just can't justify the expence of a subscription .
As an avid F1 fan, following the sport from the Hakkinen era, I used to take pride in saying that I'm a formula 1 fan. When ever we find other fellow enthusiasts it was all pure passion and emotion. But after the Liberty Media takeover and the whole DTS crap, all you can find are people who just understand the DTS narrative and argue online, as that is currently hype or trend. This has clearly diluted the core fan experience. Also, as the number such fake fan increase, the ticket prices for races are also at point where you cannot afford. I hope Moto GP doesn't fall into the same trap as F1. Sure the viewership will increase. But the core fans will pay the price ultimately.
I paid attention to F1 from a long time ago, bailing on it when they forced 'em to race on those ridiculous grooved "tractor" tires. It's only gotten worse from there. Liberty Media will turn MOTOGP into "F1 on two wheels" and I don't mean that as a compliment.
I'm excited, but skeptical. Alot of these companies end up being so predatory it's not worth it. See the gaming industry. But I appreciate your take, hopefully we still agree in a few years from now!
This is such a naive and simplistic view of what is going to happen, borderline delusional. Look forward to a bunch of historic tracks being replaced by parking lots in the UAE, and if you thought the fan discourse around 2015 was bad, wait until liberty pushes nonsense storylines for views
Our hope is that the Arab and those shitty US tracks don't comply to the safety standards of MotoGP (remember you can't have street circuits for MotoGP, because Street Circuit+MotoGP=Death). But at least I can see this as a good oportunity to bring back Laguna Seca, which would be a nice bring back to the calendar
Yeahh... I can already see five races in the US and obnoxious charades in Las Vegas... I think the only thing that really, really annoys me of what LM did in F1 is the fact that they displaced great tracks in favor of races in the US, where there is zero tradition in high level, global motorsport and that reflects in the events (say what you want, but only the US kinda cares about Indy and nascar. Imsa, which should have more exposure, in my opinion, barely gets any attention, and they have no idea what rally is). COTA is a nice track, but Miami and Las Vegas are a joke. So let's see what they do... (and I can't understand how moto3 > moto2 > motoGP can confuse newcomers. It's not that hard to get)
You sound like a salty old head my friend...motorsport is huge in California which is bigger than most EU countries and certainly has a bigger GNP, the South in the US is a large market with great interest as well. That means huge growth potential and a future for the sport outside of 50 year olds in Manchester or Bucharest. There will be growing pains for sure as the sport grows and being a non-inclusive only causes people to lose interest or shy away imo. Sure Vegas was bad and Miami very mid but they will improve. So don't be blind to increasing market growth because you don't like change or American/Americans. It is a business after all and old fans will die out and new customers need to be brought onboard.
Our hope is that the Arab and those shitty US tracks don't comply to the safety standards of MotoGP (remember you can't have street circuits for MotoGP, because Street Circuit+MotoGP=Death). But at least I can see this as a good oportunity to bring back Laguna Seca, which would be a nice bring back to the calendar
We don’t mind having new viewers but anything that will fiddle with the performance of our riders and their machines has the potential to ruin the sport and the excitement that comes with it. We shouldn’t be looking for drama as the sport is already thrilling. Motorcycle racing riders are like gladiators first and later entertainers. Liberty Media should never forget that!
Well said! This is not a soap drama. These are 2 wheels and not 4 (on rails). They are literally risking their lives (with no HaloPod). No need to interfere with the sacredness of MotoGP. 👎🏼 LM 🤌🏼
I grew up in an America that shunned formula 1. I was 4 years old when I watched Montoya and Schumacher and mika battling it out. Formula one for me had this aura and mystique to it because Americans ignored it. Now that it's so mainstream, the cars are worse, the racing on average is less entertaining, I really don't want this happening to MotoGP. MotoGP is the best racing on the planet right now, ignoring Ducati domination, and I've been to many races. It's only going to get less accessible if it goes more mainstream. Plus the Netflix series only create a drama that didn't exist. There was real drama back in the day, instead of drivers getting fined for swearing
but that's where the real market/money is. Money talks, simples as that. If Moto GP gets more popular in the US, imagine how much it's going to spike the sales of sport bikes. Also, there's a track close by to most of Americans, lot more ppl going to start doing track days, buying merchandise, etc.
@@tharikcamilo Real market for motorcycles is in Spain and Italy - thy have strong motorcycling culture, they ride every day all year long, they use bikes for everyday travels.... Car-centered America is far from that… way too far. Just deal with it.
@@AlexHevari Spain and Italy population combined is 106 million. US 330 million, on top of that, buying power not even close. I don't ride every day and I own a Harley, a Indian and saving up to buy a Ducati. I'm middle class. Bottom line, you get your product to sell in the US, you good, thats why they pushing the F1 and MotoGP to sell here.
I have followed F1 for over 20 years, MotoGP for 12. I feel F1 died in 2014, my interest in F1 has gradually dwindled over the last 10 years, and for the 2024 season I have barely seen a race live and I have probably missed 5 or so races all together. For someone who would get up in the middle of the night to see every race live that is a staggering difference. MotoGP still has the appeal, I have see every single race, 80% live as I can stream the race when I get up rather that getting up at 5 in the morning. I think Liberty has turned F1 into dull and boring circus, not helped by FIA terrible regulations management. If they stay away from the sport itself and focus in marketing it can be good, but I really hope they don't make it into what F1 has become.
I used to watch f1 and have been to a few races until the thrown Hamilton under the bus for netflix views. As someone who goes to motoGP races. This is concerning also as it gets more popular the ticket prices will double as has with Silverstone for the f1 over the past few seasons. I get liberty media want to grow the business but as a fan go to any race in Europe and you'll realise it actuallt doesn't need any more fans. I really hope this sport isn't ruined just for a few netflix fans.
First and foremost what I want from the Liberty - stop handling the Moto2 and Moto3 like simply “feeders” for MotoGP class. Make lighter classes self-sufficient again like in the times when guys like Nieto or Ubbiali became legends while never competing or at least winning titles in heavier classes. Second. Motorcycles are not cars and must not being handled the same way, remember that! All this whining about lots of spanish and italian riders is absolute bullsh*t. In Spain and Italy motorcycle and motorcycling are part of the culture. They ride every day the all-year-long, they ride in everyday life, they have hundreds of motorcycle clubs and schools where even little kids can learn to ride the pocket- or miny-bike. That the huge part of spanish and italian culture. (Same for Latin America and Asia, but light small-displacement bikes-oriented). The car-entered USA is absolutely opposite - deal with it and stop talking this “perspective market” rubbish (Hey, how can you call “perspective” the market where even such iconic home brands like Harley and Indian are struggling and the motorcycle dealerships are closing?). Moto-community in USA is quite tiny now so nothing wrong in that the motorcycle racing is quite small sport there…
New logo = dumb, ugly, cold and like all modern art and architecture. How dumb does a person have to be to not understand the progression? I hope they don't ruin it. F1 was better with Bernie. You are socially conditioning people that don't really understand the sport.
American racing sucks thanks to the effort to make it more interesting to the stick and ball crowd, it errs too much on entertainment and not pure racing and competition and viewership is dropping rapidly.
In the world of formula cars, it wasn't the main class that was renamed, F2 used to be GP2 and F3 was GP3 except in 2011 when it was F3 International Trophy. F3 is also in use in multiple series that are not equal in tech. So should the MotoGP class keep it's name and the lower classes should be rebranded accordingly.
I disagree on rebranding Moto1, it would only destroy value without creating new. I disagree on the fact that more races, with sprint races, equals more fun, it mostly dilutes the buildup and for the sport is really bad. It could be replaced by having some new "superpole" rules. On the rest, I agree, the sport needs more modern approach to social media, allowing more content produced Independently and more materiale be available to content creators, who contribute building the story. All sports need a story to involve larger audience, since David vs. Goliath or Frazier v Alì. I don't like too much backstage, but I reckon It is good for promoting the sport.
There was a guy from LM saying some words like these: let's be honest, nobody wants to see those riders running in circles. People wanna see stories and dramas.. 😮
Moto 3 and Moto 2 and Moto GP what's so f-ing hard to understand about the classes and the structure, heaven forbid someone take to the internet and do some research on their own to educate themselves.
About RUclips content you are absolutely right, I don't know why they stopped making their best content, you see the old highlights and they are 100 times better, they stop doing the crash reels or the best overtakes that were the content that had the most views
Sounds like a pure investor perspective to me. What really counts is the thrill in each race and in the season. Here MotoGP is way ahead of F1. So that owner change looks more like a challenge to me than an opportunity.
Hopefully the weekend format won't change that much, actually I'd be happy if they qould do away with the sprint races or do only 1/3 of the sprint race that they are doing now. I would like to see more F2 races without the extra costs...
This is a terrible things for existing MotoGP fans unfortunately. Liberty Media made F1 targeted to those who know nothing about racing (which is a really good business model) however it is at the expense of the existing fans that have been passionate about the sport for decades beforehand
They started with changing this recognizeable, iconic logo into some minimalistic bs and I bet we're gonna get a Netflix show soon, MotoGP will just be F1 on 2 wheels, only show, zero focus on sport. I hate Liberty.
The number 1 thing Liberty Media could do that would improve the product the most by far would be to replace the TV director for Motogp. The current director is more interested in showing other people watching racing than in showing the racing. It is the worst TV coverage of anything I have ever seen and there's not a close second. There's so much exciting racing going on and they cut to someone sitting still, presumably watching the racing. Continually. Unbelievable. Just show the racing, we can see someone's girlfriend or a team manager after the race.
Dan, absolutely I dont find your facts are accurate. You said it, Bernie Ecclestone is the man of status quo. I dont think you realise that Motogp has been constantly changing the sport is presenting to the audience. They always bring in new techs (onboard cams, shoulder cam, green strip tracker, aero packages, ride heights etc), the graphics, apps etc. Look at the fans attending the race, they all coming from younger age, even babies in strollers are there! how young you want to attract more? You know, motorcycle communities are people of young age. Tickets are way affordable than F1 right now. I am open for change, but dont turn Motogp to F1.
It will bring in a lot of new viewers. Its gonna have a positive and negative effect. Time will tell the overall effect though. Thanks for your side on it Dan. Some things in here I didn't think about here!
A lot of people here talking as if Dorna hasn’t been quite bad at selling the sport. The only fact that they don’t sell out Silverstone means that the English speaking world is not onto it. It’s still mostly an Italian and Spanish audience. Plus they’ve been pretty inept at having a youtube presence: always late with their highlights which are not real highlights.
They have made F1 into the perfect story. Max the bad guy and Lewis/ Lando the good guys. It's literally a scripted story enforced by inconsistent stewarding to make sure the story stays on track. Austin Texas Lando gets a penalty and everybody is raging. He's been hard done by. Next race max gets a penalty and everybody cheers. They know what makes good telly and will suck viewers in. Most of the viewers won't actually be petrol heads. They would've come from drive to survive netflix views. Which again is a scripted story. Clever editing to make you feel a certain way about teams/drivers/people. Liberty media knows how to get viewers that's their main goal.. pure racing isn't.
I think Liberty will make a shitty soap opera like ''Drive to Survive''. I dont trust them, their focus is to sell and thats it. People like us, the real fans, are not their main focus.
So are they going to make it cheaper to watch? I can't afford a subscription to Discovery media for 30+ quid a month, especially as Moto GP is all I would watch. I currently just watch highlights on RUclips.
OK, so apart from the deviation of blaming MM for Honda decline headline, I do like where you're going with this channel. A biker for 40 years but never really bothered with watching GP, until the last few years, when my son bought me Silverstone tickets and I was hooked. Whilst I think the current team (Suzie, Neil et al) are great and I do enjoy their banter as much as the race, it rarely caters for 'the average punter'. For example, I have never heard them explain the timing sector markers once.. and I have seen 95% of the races for the last 4 years. I haven't heard them fully explain the flags And so on Now imagine if you only have a passing interest, you won't have a clue what is happening.
Liberty love street circuits over proper race circuits because their fans are too lazy to drive to remote locations most tracks are located ... so maybe MotoGP back to the IOM ... ;-)
Our hope is that the Arab and those shitty US tracks don't comply to the safety standards of MotoGP (remember you can't have street circuits for MotoGP, because Street Circuit+MotoGP=Death). But at least I can see this as a good opportunity to bring back Laguna Seca, which would be a nice bring back to the calendar
The only thing required to improve the coverage of the sport is to keep the damn cameras posted at the track and not at anything else. Nobody gives a shit about Marc Marquez's dad or Gigi Dall'Igna in the middle of a race. Throw in some commentators who care more about the race than trying to come up with cute things to say and it will all take care of itself. Hopefully Simon Carfar can curb the intervention of the race stewards and let the riders compete with each other instead of some panel of faceless nerds deciding the outcomes of races and championships.
As long as they don't make it like f1 and boring and not matter what they do, it will still be seen as no sport in the uk. bbc calls bike racing a majority sport so won't show it like they do with f1. Glad i never buy a tv license.
@der73tom Yet, you’re still commenting on said video, you "refuse" to click on. You’re still giving Dan engagement, without watching the video. So, this nonsensical outrage means nothing. Don’t blame Dan, blame social media algorithms.
Changing MotoGP for Moto1, do you think people are crazy? MotoGP is the Brand and the New Logo is the Ugliest thing I ever see. They spit on the MotoGP Iconic Logo and Traditions
Changing the class name from MotoGP to Moto1, I would probably survive, but after I saw how shit that supposed new logo looks, absolutely lifeless compared to the old logo then yeah I'd have a hard time with that 😂
Sprint races just made a world champion who only won 3 Sunday races. That's a failure. Someone wins 11 races and comes second is a disaster for the sport.
F1 is like watching paint dry. MOTOGP has more overtakes in one race than F1 has in a whole year or less overtakes than 2 laps in MOTO3. Welcome to Disney MOTO. Its all far too expensive to watch anyway. £1000 for a family for Silverstone weekend.
It also helps to promote their rider, like i remember when F1 racing at Imola (this year i guess) and Pecco Bagnaia attended that race, the camera pan at him and in the monitor does not show up his name. I mean he is two time MotoGP World Champion, none of them recognise him.
Moto1😂. MotoGP is a brand name and this name is twice the 100 times better than the whole F1. If they change everything in MotoGP I may watch it but change the gp to 1 and I'm done.
lets listen to some fools for an hour before the race first i turn the crap off like a million others moto3 and moto2 like it never happened and this fool thinks it will be good?
I’m new to go this year and I think the renaming makes sense. Moto3, moto2, why not moto1? And if MotoGP is the class, what is the series? I don’t like change as much as anyone else but as long as the racing is good, the drama is good, then I’m ok with new name and logo etc.
Thanks for wasting the viewers time with this video, you just drone on and on about shareholders perspective and dumping down of the sport for the "wider audience". Unless you're getting paid by Liberty to say these things, it's not even interesting to listen to. The product is already good, it's not broken and doesn't need to be fixed. Some tweaks is okay but it only need more coverage options across the world and a little marketing, no need to screw with the formula. "What LM did worked." Yes but for whom and at what cost. Seems like you care more about your LM shares price than the quality of the sport and its heritage.
people have to understand that the main problem of f1 is the FIA not liberty media, this guys would only change the marketing stuff not the sport because they dont have the powers
I thought the current guise, MotoGP name was goofy already. I’m from the 500s era and we called it the Bike Grand Prix or the 500s. Then the 250s, 125cc “Grand Prix”. The moto bit sounds cringe. The Spanish did it when they took over. I hate it and hate physically saying “MotoGP”. Wish they’d change it. And they should bring back 125s and 250s. Main class is fine, but moto2 bikes are whack, stupid things that sound awful to ride. Lots of guys just can’t come to terms with the things. Moto3 are cool but not as powerful as the 125s.
Yea the names 125s 250s and 500s are terrible for marketing. Bike Grand Prix sounds like a bicycle league or something. It's like f1 calling their divisions 300s 600s and 1000s. And calling the series Car Grand Prix 😂😂
Moto2 seems like a promotion cup, all bikes fitted with the same engine (Honda 600 before, Triumph now). I really miss the 250cc with different engine manufacturers (Yamaha, Honda, Rotax ...)
@ yeah absolutely. It was an awesome class, probably my favourite as I had an Aprilia RS250 and it was a hoot. Problem with 250s in GP became the cost. The leading factory bike became uber expensive. But even if they put them all on the same bike to reduce costs like moto2 but made them 250s, it would be heaps better imo. At least they were real race bikes, not these current abominations. I have real trouble getting interested in moto2.
How are you going to convince a bunch or angry pissed of "true fans". I'm not worried change is part of life. Or worried about "woke mobs" like some narrow-minded people.
Moto GP sucks, they are turning it into Formula 1 ( which people hates ) they should go back to the years 2000s bikes and let talent flourish instead of engineers and all that aerodynamics and electronics crap winning races. Now , the best pilot don't win but the best engineers.
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This will NOT make motogp more exciting, it will make it more sellable to people who doesn't really give a shit about motogp, they just want to see crashes, controversy and off track rivalries.
u think wanna see bs drama n not good production and competition? 😹😹😹
There are MILLIONS of ppl who know nothing of MotoGP. More exposure will be great for the sport.
@@mikedominickthis has always been my argument. people want motogp to grow yet stagnate and retreat. worries? relevant, but lets think from a business perspective- more viewers (potentially), also equates to more potential financial gain. and more financial gain means more growth for the series. i for one am looking forward to how this pans out
@@mikedominick exposure is exposure but who tryna see schoolgirl drama
Pride helmets now?
Changing Motogp to Moto 1 is the worst thing that could happen to motogp
How? It’s not a great name but as Dan reminded it’s not like “MotoGP” is that much of a legacy name.
I could see them using MotoGP for the company brand and renaming the highest division to Moto1.
So they still could use MotoGP but also simplify and align the divisions.
yea right.. gp to 1 is gonna kill the sport 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
tbh MotoGP doesn't make sense, as Moto2 and Moto3 are also Grand Prix. MotoGP being the name of the entire thing makes way more sense. I agree that they can find a better name than Moto1 though
@@hugolouessard3914 maybe M1? 🤷♂️
I thought this was bad, now I think it's way worse
For me this is BAR NONE, WORST EVER. Seems like it matches EA terms of making moves on F1 22 by making EA SPORTS F1 as a whole, MILLIONS TIMES WORSE!
There's absolutely nothing in this video that allays my fears... Liberty Media has had a large hand in the great dumbing down of F1. Turning their back on traditional venues for a cash grab in the USA and Arab nations, endless race interruptions with safety cars to try and bunch the field up, nods to the woke mob (banning grid girls!) Insane entry prices that cannot be afforded by most true fans. And the embarrassing turning of the sport into an evening soap opera ('Drivel to Survive'.)
If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it.
❤ agree!!!
Dude, it is broke… it needs fixing
@@DrPepperone Which bit is broken exactly?
Liberty media just buys racing series and they turn them into cashgrabs aiming at people that have no idea about motorsports in general. F1 is a prime example, they wanted to push the sport more in the us, and ruined the european nature of the sport in the process. Things like lots of races in the us, american-style pre and post race stuff and netflix "documentaries" about tthe sport have ruined f1, at least for the "old" generation. I bet that when they acquire motogp they will remove races in europe and east asia, where there is a huge fanbase of the motorcycle culture just because they want to bring it to the us, thus turning motogp into a soulless competition that disregards its history and its fanbase. I get that LM is a company and companies only aim at maximising their assets and their earnings but it's sad for the fans and the sport itself, seeing the old style motogp slowly fade away.
Before liberty media, F1 teams especially the mid field and bottom ones are loosing money significantly and most go bankrupt.
Now, F1 teams has almost 10x their value.
As an example, Lawrence Stroll purchased Force India in 2018 for $100m. Now in 2024 the Aston Martin F1 Team is worth over $1B, Lawrence Stroll has more than 10x his investment and as an added bonus he also was able to put his son Lance Stroll into F1.
Even the bottom feeder teams like Williams, Sauber, Haas is making profit from F1 which is why Andretti desperately wants to join F1, but established teams does not want that because they would get less money as the price money from F1 would get devided from 10 teams into 11 if Andretti is allowed to join.
Typical americans.
Would moving from a area with lots of fans make it more profitable?
I was a huge fan of moto gp and 500 gp for decades. As an Australian , I would sit up late at night and into the early hours of the morning watching our local heroes doing battle on the world stage . I would ride half way across the country to camp out at Phillip Island or Eastern Creek when the circus rolled in each year . Sadly Moto GP is no longer available on free to air TV in Australia . With the cost of living being what it is , i just can't justify the expence of a subscription .
Try to get inside racing4me page and download the races
I mean, it's like $10-15 a month. That doesn't seem that expensive relative to how important you claim it is to you...
you can just pirate it. they will make a hefty profit either way.
As an avid F1 fan, following the sport from the Hakkinen era, I used to take pride in saying that I'm a formula 1 fan. When ever we find other fellow enthusiasts it was all pure passion and emotion. But after the Liberty Media takeover and the whole DTS crap, all you can find are people who just understand the DTS narrative and argue online, as that is currently hype or trend.
This has clearly diluted the core fan experience. Also, as the number such fake fan increase, the ticket prices for races are also at point where you cannot afford.
I hope Moto GP doesn't fall into the same trap as F1.
Sure the viewership will increase. But the core fans will pay the price ultimately.
I paid attention to F1 from a long time ago, bailing on it when they forced 'em to race on those ridiculous grooved "tractor" tires. It's only gotten worse from there. Liberty Media will turn MOTOGP into "F1 on two wheels" and I don't mean that as a compliment.
I'm excited, but skeptical. Alot of these companies end up being so predatory it's not worth it. See the gaming industry. But I appreciate your take, hopefully we still agree in a few years from now!
chasing quarterly earnings...
This is such a naive and simplistic view of what is going to happen, borderline delusional. Look forward to a bunch of historic tracks being replaced by parking lots in the UAE, and if you thought the fan discourse around 2015 was bad, wait until liberty pushes nonsense storylines for views
Our hope is that the Arab and those shitty US tracks don't comply to the safety standards of MotoGP (remember you can't have street circuits for MotoGP, because Street Circuit+MotoGP=Death). But at least I can see this as a good oportunity to bring back Laguna Seca, which would be a nice bring back to the calendar
Yeahh... I can already see five races in the US and obnoxious charades in Las Vegas... I think the only thing that really, really annoys me of what LM did in F1 is the fact that they displaced great tracks in favor of races in the US, where there is zero tradition in high level, global motorsport and that reflects in the events (say what you want, but only the US kinda cares about Indy and nascar. Imsa, which should have more exposure, in my opinion, barely gets any attention, and they have no idea what rally is). COTA is a nice track, but Miami and Las Vegas are a joke. So let's see what they do... (and I can't understand how moto3 > moto2 > motoGP can confuse newcomers. It's not that hard to get)
You sound like a salty old head my friend...motorsport is huge in California which is bigger than most EU countries and certainly has a bigger GNP, the South in the US is a large market with great interest as well. That means huge growth potential and a future for the sport outside of 50 year olds in Manchester or Bucharest. There will be growing pains for sure as the sport grows and being a non-inclusive only causes people to lose interest or shy away imo. Sure Vegas was bad and Miami very mid but they will improve. So don't be blind to increasing market growth because you don't like change or American/Americans. It is a business after all and old fans will die out and new customers need to be brought onboard.
Our hope is that the Arab and those shitty US tracks don't comply to the safety standards of MotoGP (remember you can't have street circuits for MotoGP, because Street Circuit+MotoGP=Death). But at least I can see this as a good oportunity to bring back Laguna Seca, which would be a nice bring back to the calendar
We don’t mind having new viewers but anything that will fiddle with the performance of our riders and their machines has the potential to ruin the sport and the excitement that comes with it. We shouldn’t be looking for drama as the sport is already thrilling.
Motorcycle racing riders are like gladiators first and later entertainers. Liberty Media should never forget that!
Well said! This is not a soap drama. These are 2 wheels and not 4 (on rails). They are literally risking their lives (with no HaloPod). No need to interfere with the sacredness of MotoGP. 👎🏼 LM 🤌🏼
Yeah they already killed it... They even change the logo into some dumb simple tittle to let everybody know they are gonna not do anything better
Yep. Somehow these idiots still think minimalism is the way to go for logos. It’s ruined it
I grew up in an America that shunned formula 1. I was 4 years old when I watched Montoya and Schumacher and mika battling it out. Formula one for me had this aura and mystique to it because Americans ignored it. Now that it's so mainstream, the cars are worse, the racing on average is less entertaining, I really don't want this happening to MotoGP. MotoGP is the best racing on the planet right now, ignoring Ducati domination, and I've been to many races. It's only going to get less accessible if it goes more mainstream. Plus the Netflix series only create a drama that didn't exist. There was real drama back in the day, instead of drivers getting fined for swearing
The whole idea is to get AMERICANS to watch it. Not just any new viewers.... Hence the simplification and branding push.
but that's where the real market/money is. Money talks, simples as that. If Moto GP gets more popular in the US, imagine how much it's going to spike the sales of sport bikes. Also, there's a track close by to most of Americans, lot more ppl going to start doing track days, buying merchandise, etc.
@@tharikcamilo except those Trump tariffs might put a dampener on that :) - Harley in MotoGP? LOL
@@cameronmale83 not Harley’s, but I’m sure if sport bikes sales increase in the US, manufactures will be VERY happy, it’s a huge market
@@tharikcamilo Real market for motorcycles is in Spain and Italy - thy have strong motorcycling culture, they ride every day all year long, they use bikes for everyday travels.... Car-centered America is far from that… way too far. Just deal with it.
@@AlexHevari Spain and Italy population combined is 106 million. US 330 million, on top of that, buying power not even close. I don't ride every day and I own a Harley, a Indian and saving up to buy a Ducati. I'm middle class. Bottom line, you get your product to sell in the US, you good, thats why they pushing the F1 and MotoGP to sell here.
MotoGP in the hands of Liberty Media is doing EXACTLY like EA does with F1 games since 22! 👎
I have followed F1 for over 20 years, MotoGP for 12.
I feel F1 died in 2014, my interest in F1 has gradually dwindled over the last 10 years, and for the 2024 season I have barely seen a race live and I have probably missed 5 or so races all together. For someone who would get up in the middle of the night to see every race live that is a staggering difference.
MotoGP still has the appeal, I have see every single race, 80% live as I can stream the race when I get up rather that getting up at 5 in the morning.
I think Liberty has turned F1 into dull and boring circus, not helped by FIA terrible regulations management.
If they stay away from the sport itself and focus in marketing it can be good, but I really hope they don't make it into what F1 has become.
Also, make the race pass much cheaper.
F1TV price is going up next year. So I doubt race pass will be cheaper.
I used to watch f1 and have been to a few races until the thrown Hamilton under the bus for netflix views. As someone who goes to motoGP races. This is concerning also as it gets more popular the ticket prices will double as has with Silverstone for the f1 over the past few seasons. I get liberty media want to grow the business but as a fan go to any race in Europe and you'll realise it actuallt doesn't need any more fans. I really hope this sport isn't ruined just for a few netflix fans.
First and foremost what I want from the Liberty - stop handling the Moto2 and Moto3 like simply “feeders” for MotoGP class. Make lighter classes self-sufficient again like in the times when guys like Nieto or Ubbiali became legends while never competing or at least winning titles in heavier classes.
Second. Motorcycles are not cars and must not being handled the same way, remember that! All this whining about lots of spanish and italian riders is absolute bullsh*t. In Spain and Italy motorcycle and motorcycling are part of the culture. They ride every day the all-year-long, they ride in everyday life, they have hundreds of motorcycle clubs and schools where even little kids can learn to ride the pocket- or miny-bike. That the huge part of spanish and italian culture. (Same for Latin America and Asia, but light small-displacement bikes-oriented).
The car-entered USA is absolutely opposite - deal with it and stop talking this “perspective market” rubbish (Hey, how can you call “perspective” the market where even such iconic home brands like Harley and Indian are struggling and the motorcycle dealerships are closing?). Moto-community in USA is quite tiny now so nothing wrong in that the motorcycle racing is quite small sport there…
New logo = dumb, ugly, cold and like all modern art and architecture. How dumb does a person have to be to not understand the progression? I hope they don't ruin it. F1 was better with Bernie. You are socially conditioning people that don't really understand the sport.
not sure if someone noticed, around 6:04, you say "youger". keep up the good work.
the 2024 championship shows that nothing need to be change
American racing sucks thanks to the effort to make it more interesting to the stick and ball crowd, it errs too much on entertainment and not pure racing and competition and viewership is dropping rapidly.
Like low brow
Which kind of american racing you mean? MotoAmerica, Pro Motocross, Supercross? Or Nascar, IndyCar?
Nascar primarily but it has infected all of American racing
@@cmajaa1 Hmm.... How has it infected MotoAmerica, Motocross, Flat Track?
King of the Baggers 😂
Thank God they didn't change it to Moto1, thank, bloody, God.
Yet.
They are going to ruin it just how they have for formula1. What a joke
In the world of formula cars, it wasn't the main class that was renamed, F2 used to be GP2 and F3 was GP3 except in 2011 when it was F3 International Trophy. F3 is also in use in multiple series that are not equal in tech. So should the MotoGP class keep it's name and the lower classes should be rebranded accordingly.
I disagree on rebranding Moto1, it would only destroy value without creating new. I disagree on the fact that more races, with sprint races, equals more fun, it mostly dilutes the buildup and for the sport is really bad. It could be replaced by having some new "superpole" rules. On the rest, I agree, the sport needs more modern approach to social media, allowing more content produced Independently and more materiale be available to content creators, who contribute building the story. All sports need a story to involve larger audience, since David vs. Goliath or Frazier v Alì. I don't like too much backstage, but I reckon It is good for promoting the sport.
There was a guy from LM saying some words like these: let's be honest, nobody wants to see those riders running in circles. People wanna see stories and dramas.. 😮
and he aint wrong. The masses dont care about just the sport. It worked in the past because the pie was smaller. Now theres a lot more to gain
Moto 3 and Moto 2 and Moto GP what's so f-ing hard to understand about the classes and the structure, heaven forbid someone take to the internet and do some research on their own to educate themselves.
F1 situation is different than motogp, the dorna is doing really good rather than f1 before acquisition
They can start by not having subscribers to pay extra to watch the testing!!! Terrible policy.
About RUclips content you are absolutely right, I don't know why they stopped making their best content, you see the old highlights and they are 100 times better, they stop doing the crash reels or the best overtakes that were the content that had the most views
Sounds like a pure investor perspective to me.
What really counts is the thrill in each race and in the season. Here MotoGP is way ahead of F1.
So that owner change looks more like a challenge to me than an opportunity.
Hopefully the weekend format won't change that much, actually I'd be happy if they qould do away with the sprint races or do only 1/3 of the sprint race that they are doing now. I would like to see more F2 races without the extra costs...
This is a terrible things for existing MotoGP fans unfortunately. Liberty Media made F1 targeted to those who know nothing about racing (which is a really good business model) however it is at the expense of the existing fans that have been passionate about the sport for decades beforehand
They started with changing this recognizeable, iconic logo into some minimalistic bs and I bet we're gonna get a Netflix show soon, MotoGP will just be F1 on 2 wheels, only show, zero focus on sport. I hate Liberty.
The number 1 thing Liberty Media could do that would improve the product the most by far would be to replace the TV director for Motogp. The current director is more interested in showing other people watching racing than in showing the racing. It is the worst TV coverage of anything I have ever seen and there's not a close second. There's so much exciting racing going on and they cut to someone sitting still, presumably watching the racing. Continually. Unbelievable. Just show the racing, we can see someone's girlfriend or a team manager after the race.
Dan, absolutely I dont find your facts are accurate. You said it, Bernie Ecclestone is the man of status quo. I dont think you realise that Motogp has been constantly changing the sport is presenting to the audience. They always bring in new techs (onboard cams, shoulder cam, green strip tracker, aero packages, ride heights etc), the graphics, apps etc. Look at the fans attending the race, they all coming from younger age, even babies in strollers are there! how young you want to attract more? You know, motorcycle communities are people of young age. Tickets are way affordable than F1 right now. I am open for change, but dont turn Motogp to F1.
It will bring in a lot of new viewers. Its gonna have a positive and negative effect. Time will tell the overall effect though. Thanks for your side on it Dan. Some things in here I didn't think about here!
The upcoming season will see some great changes. Nice Explanation ❤
A lot of people here talking as if Dorna hasn’t been quite bad at selling the sport.
The only fact that they don’t sell out Silverstone means that the English speaking world is not onto it. It’s still mostly an Italian and Spanish audience.
Plus they’ve been pretty inept at having a youtube presence: always late with their highlights which are not real highlights.
I wish I could watch it without getting HBO or buying the MotoGP race pass. They should work on that.
Liberty media have ruined F1 I literally can't stand F1 now and they are going to ruin MotoGP.
They have made F1 into the perfect story. Max the bad guy and Lewis/ Lando the good guys. It's literally a scripted story enforced by inconsistent stewarding to make sure the story stays on track. Austin Texas Lando gets a penalty and everybody is raging. He's been hard done by. Next race max gets a penalty and everybody cheers. They know what makes good telly and will suck viewers in. Most of the viewers won't actually be petrol heads. They would've come from drive to survive netflix views. Which again is a scripted story. Clever editing to make you feel a certain way about teams/drivers/people. Liberty media knows how to get viewers that's their main goal.. pure racing isn't.
I think Liberty will make a shitty soap opera like ''Drive to Survive''. I dont trust them, their focus is to sell and thats it. People like us, the real fans, are not their main focus.
Dracula taking over hospitals is the best and should be embraced. JP in boxing, LM in Motorsports.🤣😂
So are they going to make it cheaper to watch? I can't afford a subscription to Discovery media for 30+ quid a month, especially as Moto GP is all I would watch. I currently just watch highlights on RUclips.
I really hope it works!!!! Good luck
Raise a hand if you watched MotoGP Unlimited on Amazon Prime 🙋♂️ I kinda liked it and I’m sure Liberty Media is gonna do an even better job
Change the name. get ship to shore radio comms. And make a ride to survive series to show the riders personalities.
that is even with them owning not 100% of the racing
OK, so apart from the deviation of blaming MM for Honda decline headline, I do like where you're going with this channel.
A biker for 40 years but never really bothered with watching GP, until the last few years, when my son bought me Silverstone tickets and I was hooked.
Whilst I think the current team (Suzie, Neil et al) are great and I do enjoy their banter as much as the race, it rarely caters for 'the average punter'. For example, I have never heard them explain the timing sector markers once.. and I have seen 95% of the races for the last 4 years.
I haven't heard them fully explain the flags
And so on
Now imagine if you only have a passing interest, you won't have a clue what is happening.
I thought its good news as soon as this got announced, F1 got way better to watch since '17, but people are blinded by nostalgia
If it ain't broken? ...don't try and fix it!
Liberty love street circuits over proper race circuits because their fans are too lazy to drive to remote locations most tracks are located ... so maybe MotoGP back to the IOM ... ;-)
Our hope is that the Arab and those shitty US tracks don't comply to the safety standards of MotoGP (remember you can't have street circuits for MotoGP, because Street Circuit+MotoGP=Death). But at least I can see this as a good opportunity to bring back Laguna Seca, which would be a nice bring back to the calendar
The only thing required to improve the coverage of the sport is to keep the damn cameras posted at the track and not at anything else. Nobody gives a shit about Marc Marquez's dad or Gigi Dall'Igna in the middle of a race. Throw in some commentators who care more about the race than trying to come up with cute things to say and it will all take care of itself.
Hopefully Simon Carfar can curb the intervention of the race stewards and let the riders compete with each other instead of some panel of faceless nerds deciding the outcomes of races and championships.
Are we
going to have a dumb Netflix series to create or exaggerate the drama.
As long as they don't make it like f1 and boring and not matter what they do, it will still be seen as no sport in the uk. bbc calls bike racing a majority sport so won't show it like they do with f1. Glad i never buy a tv license.
Stefano Domenicali liberty media’s biggest yes man to leave F1 & join MotoGP to turn that into nothing but a popularity contest as well!!!
Terrible Video, no real content with link to next video, i refuse to click it because it will be CLICKBAIT like this one.
@der73tom
Yet, you’re still commenting on said video, you "refuse" to click on. You’re still giving Dan engagement, without watching the video. So, this nonsensical outrage means nothing.
Don’t blame Dan, blame social media algorithms.
Changing MotoGP for Moto1, do you think people are crazy?
MotoGP is the Brand and the New Logo is the Ugliest thing I ever see. They spit on the MotoGP Iconic Logo and Traditions
Maybe it's time to let it go.
Ride to survive incoming 💔
Changing the class name from MotoGP to Moto1, I would probably survive, but after I saw how shit that supposed new logo looks, absolutely lifeless compared to the old logo then yeah I'd have a hard time with that 😂
oof, that looks pretty lame. The old logo is not only iconic, but also actually good
Sprint races just made a world champion who only won 3 Sunday races. That's a failure. Someone wins 11 races and comes second is a disaster for the sport.
Pecco was far less consistent compared to Jorge. Why so many people doesn't take this important factor into consideration is baffling.
A win is a win bro
@@kosztypatrik7028Nicky Hayden only had 2 wins when won the title. That was way before sprint races
F1 is like watching paint dry. MOTOGP has more overtakes in one race than F1 has in a whole year or less overtakes than 2 laps in MOTO3.
Welcome to Disney MOTO. Its all far too expensive to watch anyway. £1000 for a family for Silverstone weekend.
Maybe, but that logo is not what I'd consider a good start. It looks awful.
Just have a spoiler free social media and harcore fans won't have to unsubcribe 😑
It also helps to promote their rider, like i remember when F1 racing at Imola (this year i guess) and Pecco Bagnaia attended that race, the camera pan at him and in the monitor does not show up his name. I mean he is two time MotoGP World Champion, none of them recognise him.
Agree 100%
Moto1😂. MotoGP is a brand name and this name is twice the 100 times better than the whole F1. If they change everything in MotoGP I may watch it but change the gp to 1 and I'm done.
💯 and they will add an American writer due to ESG and DEI. 👍🏼
This is not a good thing
lets listen to some fools for an hour before the race first i turn the crap off like a million others moto3 and moto2 like it never happened and this fool thinks it will be good?
400cc moto bikes!!
oh no.
how much did they pay you?
I’m new to go this year and I think the renaming makes sense. Moto3, moto2, why not moto1? And if MotoGP is the class, what is the series? I don’t like change as much as anyone else but as long as the racing is good, the drama is good, then I’m ok with new name and logo etc.
Cause you are new
i'm just waiting for Ride to survive😂
Haha true
Thanks for wasting the viewers time with this video, you just drone on and on about shareholders perspective and dumping down of the sport for the "wider audience". Unless you're getting paid by Liberty to say these things, it's not even interesting to listen to. The product is already good, it's not broken and doesn't need to be fixed. Some tweaks is okay but it only need more coverage options across the world and a little marketing, no need to screw with the formula.
"What LM did worked." Yes but for whom and at what cost. Seems like you care more about your LM shares price than the quality of the sport and its heritage.
Noooo!! Xd they already ruined the logo
Theyre not cars jus yet .
U fool more money doesn’t mean better racing it jst means better profits 👎👎👎
Moto1 😂😂😂😂😂
people have to understand that the main problem of f1 is the FIA not liberty media, this guys would only change the marketing stuff not the sport because they dont have the powers
M1
A MotoGP reality program would be interesting.....
I thought the current guise, MotoGP name was goofy already. I’m from the 500s era and we called it the Bike Grand Prix or the 500s. Then the 250s, 125cc “Grand Prix”. The moto bit sounds cringe. The Spanish did it when they took over. I hate it and hate physically saying “MotoGP”. Wish they’d change it. And they should bring back 125s and 250s. Main class is fine, but moto2 bikes are whack, stupid things that sound awful to ride. Lots of guys just can’t come to terms with the things. Moto3 are cool but not as powerful as the 125s.
I thought the Moto was short for Motorcycle cause it’s a motorcycle gp so MotoGP
Yea the names 125s 250s and 500s are terrible for marketing. Bike Grand Prix sounds like a bicycle league or something.
It's like f1 calling their divisions 300s 600s and 1000s. And calling the series Car Grand Prix 😂😂
@ well, no, it’s the Latin languages word for motorbike.
Moto2 seems like a promotion cup, all bikes fitted with the same engine (Honda 600 before, Triumph now). I really miss the 250cc with different engine manufacturers (Yamaha, Honda, Rotax ...)
@ yeah absolutely. It was an awesome class, probably my favourite as I had an Aprilia RS250 and it was a hoot. Problem with 250s in GP became the cost. The leading factory bike became uber expensive. But even if they put them all on the same bike to reduce costs like moto2 but made them 250s, it would be heaps better imo. At least they were real race bikes, not these current abominations. I have real trouble getting interested in moto2.
Boo
JORGE MARTIN & PRIMA PRAMAC RACING DID AN AMAZING JOB TO BECOME THE 1st EVER INDEPENDENTTEAM RIDER TO WIN THE TITLE
How are you going to convince a bunch or angry pissed of "true fans". I'm not worried change is part of life. Or worried about "woke mobs" like some narrow-minded people.
Moto GP sucks, they are turning it into Formula 1 ( which people hates ) they should go back to the years 2000s bikes and let talent flourish instead of engineers and all that aerodynamics and electronics crap winning races. Now , the best pilot don't win but the best engineers.
First comment!
We all want MOTO GP version of Drive to survive
Id_0ts like you are bringing this sport to dirt