Pro Tour Dark Ascension: Top 8 Semifinals
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- If you're a fan of Magic, you need to watch this video. Hall of Famers Brian Kibler and Jon Finkel battle in an epic five-game match. Also featured: Paulo Vitor Damo da Rosa vs. Mamoru Nagai.
Really good match! A little disappointed at the lack of Mesa Falcons, but I guess the Pros weren't considering that high level of tech at that time.
I see you too came to watch this game after cgb and rarran's video 😂
There will be more Mesa Flacons here in the comments :P
Mesa falcon blocks delver and infect lands, and butt breathing counteracts kessig wolf run at a more efficient rate. What a missed opportunity.
@@AbaoA_Qu BUTT BREATHING 😂
CGB sent me here. Well worth it! Mesa Falcon Gang!
After I watched the cgb vid, it was suddenly suggested to me by the algorithm
Still my favorite block and time period for MTG. I got back into MTG when Dark Ascension came out, Innistrad was sooo good, DKA kept the flavor rolling, and then Avacyn Restored had all these Angels and Griselbrand, and I was hooked again.
I watched this video when it first came out 9 years ago, and here I am, back for more.
Same here man. So good back then!
it's a shame to see how much worse MTG and WotC has become since then
Same here, mirrodin was great, then right into Innistrad. Such a great era.
I've gotten so used to Kibler shuffling, I've begun to enjoy it
Some of the best play at the top levels AND a Sheldon cameo! This video has it all!
I have lost track of how many times I have watched this match
Rewatching in 2024
Enjoying a fantastic rewind in 2015! Best match I've ever watched
11 years later and still the best match I've ever watched
Every so often I like to go back and watch this Match, I love watching these two play so seeing the two of them duke it out makes for great magic.
By far one of the best matches I've ever seen. The second Whipflare was insane.
god i miss old mtg.
take me back.
Ladies and gentlemen who are confused. This is one of the greatest Magic duels that have ever happened. It was staggering and daggering indeed.
I love how almost 300.000 people have seen this video, and not even 100.000 have seen the Finals video.
PRO TOUR GALVANIC BLAST
NEVERFORGET
Starting to learn this game at 23 (watching this to learn from the best). I'm amazed by it's complexity and style, so I can't understand how anyone could say it's "for kids". Everyone playing should try to make Magic as popular and known as poker or chess.
"I tap out and play Lingering Souls, your turn."
"I tap out and play Primeval Titan, your turn."
one of my favorite matches, the thought process between turns for finkel and kibler was amazing. great match.
this might just be generational bias but I sincerely believe Innistrad is responsible for the best standard format in the games history. Also I really miss Kibler at the pro tour 😢
inistrad RTR was heaven
@@thenoobdestroyer100 Innistrad/Mirrodin with all 6 sets was godly as well, but a little too dominated by Delver. Innistrad-RTR was incredible
Yep. I had just started playing competitively in Mirrodin/Innistrad standard. That period, plus RTR has stayed my favorite period of the format. Just such diversity in the format and so much fun.
@@patricioramosnegrete1192 the thing about the full format people started to realize delver couldn't beat green white midrange.
This match was incredible
I think it is amazing that you were able to switch games in the middle like that when there was an issue. Very good coverage.
this video was what got me into magic, and i do not regret it!!
This standard all the way til the end of the summer was probably the funnest in recent memory.
Agreed. I also liked Avacyn and m13 Standard. New standard is so lame.
that's amazing, the last play. the ONE time that Jon Finkel is a teeny bit hasty, it costs him a spot in the finals. Just absolutely stunning.
Definitely, without doubt, the most exciting match for all of PTDKA.
Sick topdeck for Kibler. Really cool to see two of the best players in the world battle it out.
One of the best matches I have seen
great match! So crazy to see the disputed wolf token be the difference! Classy pros, great games...i'm so glad I am playing Magic again!
He shuffles even more.
MIND BLOWN
This was in my recommended videos... and I have no freaking clue what's going on here.
ive never seen this game played before... but a triple galvanic blast!!?!??!?! wow amazing play
Maaaan. The double Whipflare play is just as awesome the second time.
why not block? finkel c'mon
anyone else coming back to this in 2018?
yep, gotta watch some GOOD standard every now and again
I agree 100%. Shuffling your cards in your hand like a maniac doesn't make you a better Magic player, it doesn't look cool, and it stalls the game. For example, at one point Kibler shuffled his hand for about 30 seconds straight, then played a Mountain and passed the turn. I was so furious after that. If I were Finkel, I would've raged.
That was the most self-screwed loss I've ever seen, but I don't think anyone could reasonably expect three galvanic blasts...
The fact that finkel got so far in this terrible matchup speaks volume on his greatness. It was just kibler’s time to shine, the dragonmaster’s legendary run
God, the volume sucks!!
Turn it up?
kibler seems to be a fair and a pleasant player to play with
Am I missing something? At 1:10:00 , Finkel could have played the captain, copied it with the image, and swung for lethal (12 in the air via lingering souls). I must be missing something because there is no way he would have missed that.
amazing comback at the end
1:51:03 onwards was just as funny... Gotta love how these 2 hosts the game.. seriously :)
I enjoy how the old stream layout is significantly better than the current.
+Cole Thompson I don't enjoy it, but you're not lying.
I honestly dont know why he didn't block his 2/2 at the end. I mean he knew at the very least kibler was running red in the deck, In my opinion thats enough knowledge to at least start blocking when your at 10 or less health.
Had to come here after PT Hour of Devastation top 8. Watching misplays like that just hurt, but at least the match was fantastic.
CGB didn't mention fellow Mesa Falcon Sheldon in the video!
Famous words from Rich Hagon, "There's almost no way a Game 5 can top it"
Galvanic blast you
…
Galvanic blast you
Negate
Galvanic blast you
What a moment!
Personally I found the absolute best way to get the hang of Magic was Duels of the Planeswalker. I love it and it introduces you to all the mechanics and makes it really easy to learn the turn order etc. Free to download the basic version on iPad too. Really recommend it.
1:40:02 yes i am enjoying a fantastic rewatch. What a set of games!
Rich Hagon may talk a lot, but he doesn't say much.
In older formats there are cards that specifically reference a card in the graveyard by order placed, for instance 4th card in the graveyard etc. Hence changing it effects these cards
It is, as a former Pokemon and Yu Gi Oh player, I will say magic is the most fun out there!
You can find them at the official site for Ascension under Purchase >> Official Ascension Sleeves.
@Anyguy4321: this was their first broadcast on TwitchTV. I'm sure they were worried much more about their quality of streaming more than their camera personnel's positioning and angles. Wizards has no control over that.
You're supposed to do that. It stops observant players from tracking which cards you have in your hand and where they are. There are a lot of layers to Magic beyond just playing with the cards
Congrats to both players, we probably should've seen Jon Finkel in the finals, but nobody can say that they would have expected to see three galvanics if you were in his shoes.
I would have loved to see Finkel take down another pro tour, but Kibler's a great player, he deserved it.
I love Kibler's Ascension sleeves, i've had this idea before...
finkel said in the interview after the match that he didn't block because he was expecting an inferno titan. he could mana leak the inferno titan or even if it resolves, will leave him with 2 more spirits which would have been lethal next turn with drogskoll captain. he can handle 2 galvanic blasts but lucky for kibler he had three. good match!
Thank you very much, it was confusing me.
I can remember when I used to play this, I used primarily a pure Black or Black & Blue deck, with my deck's 'powerhouse' creature being the 8/8 Nightmare Horror, Hypnox, which has Flying, and exiles every card currently in the opponent's hand as long as Hypnox is is play, though you needed so much mana to summon Hypnox that if you did summon it, chances were good that you already had your opponent on the ropes, with Hypnox requiring the player to tap 8 colorless and 3 black mana to summon it.
I don't know if I would have blocked in that situation for fear of galvanic blasts, but with knowing their hands, there was soo much tension when he said "no blocks"
I noticed that they tend to update damage not often enough. They may have just been compensating for earlier turns.
Words of wisdom. I see it all now.
this is one of my favorite and im still looking for jons deck list ten years later and yes i am an idiot
@Oiltuber He said it on his twitter account. During the game he thought he was playing around Inferno Titan, but later realized if he played Snapcaster->Mana Leak, that would tap Kibler out (9 lands) to let Finkel safely play his lord w/ Negate backup for the win.
fair point. At least wizards goes out of it's way to make sure it has relevant rulings wherever there might be confusion.
Brian Kibler - 1 colorless - legendary artifact
At the beginning of your upkeep, start shuffling your hand in a very annoying manner and put a piss off counter on Brian Kibler.
Once there is 3 counters on Brian Kibler, you may shuffle your hand at an increasing speed. If this effect persists for a full turn, you make your opponent jump over the table and try to hit you, effectively winning the game by disqualification.
rushed home from a friends after walking dead to catch this. it lived up.
@awdett Maybe slag storm+titan then? If finkel blcks, he goes down to 5 token, kibler cast titan, to maintain lethal damage, u have to manaleak it. Which which case kibler dont pay and play slagstorm instead? As to if he doesn't block, finkel lets the titan comes down, shoots down 3 tokens puts finkel on 4 tokens, still lethal?
That mistake of not blocking cost him at least 10 thousand dollars. I wouldn't be able to sleep for days. Awesome match though most exciting I have seen in a while.
Link to their decklists should really be in the video description! I can't post a URL in a RUclips comment, but search for "Pro Tour Dark Ascension Top 8 Decks" on Google.
Really liking Brian's sleeves!
It wouldn't as both doubling season and parallel life are replacement effect ( they don't put the token themselves but state that the source put double what it should).
In a similar the 2 PL +1DS will create 8 of the tokens and not 6 ( X*2*2*2=x*8) Basically it's goes up in powers of 2(if you got the full 8 pieces set you'll get 256 times the original amount of tokens).
No because he either targeted the captain while the spirit was on the stack or he used slagstorm to deal 3 damage to everything. Slagstorm doesn't target so that would work too.
I stand corrected good sir. Thank you for the clarification.
Ok forget my earlier train of thought, I had a look at finkel's hand. The cars he was playing around is as follows: autumn's veil+titan+untap land+g-blast and combus(the last 2 he knows about.)
To elaborate: Magic may have more overlap, but it also has way more cards, a much broader range of abilities (such as abilities that cause subgames, control opponent's turns, bring cards into play from outside the game, etc) and a superior economics system. The game state is also subject to a lot more change as a lot of cards straight up change the rules of the game. finally, has a lot more multiplayer associated with it. Just a few reasons why i say it's more complex.
I want “I should’ve blocked” written on my gravestone
The judge said this was the first time they ever rolled back a game state before. What is DCI policy if something like this happened and it wasn't on camera?
+7mean7bunny7 They must have recently changed policy about making that kind of review. Pro Tour Dragons of Tarkir, Patrick Chapin received a game loss after he failed to reveal a card off of Ajani, Mentor of Heros. He urged the judges to review the recording to prove that the card he was identifying was the card off Ajani. It was clear from video which card he got off the Ajani, yet he received a game loss for something like 'drawing extra cards'. Judges made a statement afterwards that the feature area does not receive extra benefits, such as review of recording.
@zhengjing1 Kudos, on coming up on that scenario I hadn't considered; for a moment I thought you were right, but I realized it still doesn't make Kibler win the game. Finkel also had a Dungeon Geists in hand, so this is what would've happened:
For all those saying "stop shuffling your hand!" shut up and get over it. He won the PT.
he plays the combust in response to the phantasmal image on the stack. If you watch it he is contemplating it for a bit, to combust now or to blow slagstorm to live.
24:45 is the wolf token misplay, it seems both players forgot about the Drogskull trigger even when Jon double blocked with the first wolf when he could have straight traded.
@advisoralbedo Wrong, if Finkel blocks with both Captains then one whipflare will take them both out. Dungeon Geist will lose it's +2/+2 bonus and go back to being a 1/1 (3/3 with two -1/-1 counters) with two damage on it and die. If he blocks with just one, the result is the same, if he does not block he then needs two whipflares but takes 4.
this is the mtg world equivalent of the austin river's shot in the carolina duke game last week:)
Thank you good sir.
They reset the board state because they had cameras. Finkel just won when they continued to play and the casters didn't show or talk about it. They simply mentioned there was a Drogskull at the end.
Actually, not blocking was the correct decision, it was playing around an inferno titan. Which would you rather play around, an inferno titan, or 3 galvanic blast?
AN epic five game match! oh yeah PVR Mamoru nagai are playing to
Just want to say these games were really interesting.
Far more interesting than the argument in the comments ¬_¬
I may be late, but the wolf should have been dead after being blocked by the spirit. It was not removed from the board and Kibler then added a second wolf. Although, when the Inferno Titan resolved, I believe it would have not really made much of a difference.
How to be good at magic.
1. Be skinny.
2. Have a good deck.
3. Win.
Lots of people are missing that Finkel had 7 spirits in play at the time he chose not to block (two are offscreen). Finkel admitted that even if Kibler had Inferno Titan, Finkel could Snapcaster ->Mana Leak it to tap out Kibler to still win.
Crazy end result there. Wow.
@TheSzczyt Greater chance for combust/Inferno Titan than 3x Blast. Made the correct play.
I like the whole idea of commercials, however, i think it would be better if they were recorded before. Like mute the studio, go to commercial, and back to studio. The way it is now it is kinda interrupting when BDM is talking and out of nowhere Rich starts reading the commercial.
he actually played the Rootbound Crag one turn one, Copperline Gorge turn 2. so when his turn 2 started, he was able to untap Rootbound Crag and had 2 mana available to him for his Rampant Growth
@Drecon84 Finkel had a sick topdeck not in the video. To answer that Inferno Titan game 2, he ends up using Ponder, shuffling it all away, and topping Celestial Purge. 2 turns of flying later the game was over.
double Whipflare game 4, triple Galvanic Blast and some luck game 5 lol but it was a lot of fun to see
WOW, i wasn't expecting the ending.