I love that you show videos and artwork of the games you are talking about, instead of only just talking to the same boring tier list screen all the time like others do.
For me PES 5 is the best PES game. PES 6 was good but not the Goat. Pes 2013 was really something, but i really loved play to PES 2011 and PES 2012 at the time (and i still play sometimes). PES 2018 was fun and give me great memories. And the worst for me was PES 2014... (I don't play PES 2008 on PS3)
i agree with you pes 5 is the best pes 6 witn adrinao ws too fast easy score u shoudl try wining eleven 9 liveware evolution is atwicked version of pes 5
PES 2011 and 2012 could have been the much better, but both are still good. They improved it in PES 2013, but unfortunately all the classic heroes and legends were gone from the game by then.
@@mohamedmontaser7494 I recently bought the PS4 disc, as I only had it on Steam and I wanted to have a physical copy of my favourite PES game. Although I'm mainly into online and play a lot of eFootball, I still enjoy PES 2019' s gameplay.
I still remember my excitement at the store buying PES2008. I was like if PES6 was so much better than the awesome PES5, I cannot imagine how good PES2008 might be! And then I played it. Once. And then got back to PES6 again.
1. PES 1 to 2013 had great gameplay. 2. PES 2014 onwards used a "different engine", the FOX engine, and the games had horrible clunky FIFA like mechanics. 3. PES 2021 was a good game but needed modding and by this time FIFA had already won due to Real names and card collecting.
I agree that pes 6 is the only one that is top tier because of the pes shop... But boy did pes 13 bring so much to the table... Also pes 2010/16 had the best music which should be a big factor.. Pes 16 isn't that good of a pes game.. It just had the second best music ( imo pes 10 still has the best music you should check out the library it exists in RUclips) great video and great ranking tho 💕
I was playing Pes 5 and my girlfriend in the other room said “what are ya playing?” Couldn’t believe it was a football game. The old school ones had some great ost 😂
PES 2017 is the last truly great pro evo game on the ps4 era. It was excellent and in my opinion one of, if not the best pes of all time. It is on par with the 2013 and 5/6 versions. The problem is that, after the disasterous 2014 version and the mediocre 2015 version, many people switched to fifa and never came back. 2016 ironically was a good game and better than the previous ones but 2017 was peak gaming, way better than 2016, the must fun and most balanced pes, hands down. 2018 made me feel weird when paying it. It was something that i just didnt like about that game. The graphics, the AI behavior, the grass which looked like a big green plastic hall, i dont know. The one that i bought (again) recently is 2019, because i think that after the datapacks and updates it became a VERY good pes indeed. It just had a rough start on the season. Efootball 2020/21 were the reason i stopped playing pes games and this says alot.
I'm 34 years old and still a hxc PES2021 fan. I've actually play them all at their release and think an actual solid tier list would be: GOAT's: - PES2013 - PES6 Very Good: - PES2021 - PES2016 - PES5 Decent: - PES2020 - PES2019 - PES2018 - PES2017 - PES2015 - PES2011 - PES2010 - PES2009 - PES4 - PES3 - PES2 - Pro Evolution Soccer Poor: - PES2012 - PES2008 Trash: - PES2014
It’s mind blowing just how far ahead PES was over FIFA. Pro evo 3 compared to FIFA 2003 is laughable. Agreed on pro evo 6 being goated though. Am playing it this weekend with an old school mate. The nostalgia is going to be epic.
Ok so about the rankings of 1-3. Trust me when I say they were really good games back then. For us back in the day Iss pro evolution 1 was decent, 2 was Very Good and 3 GOAT tier.
Does anyone remember which PES had the all time goals scorers feature in Master League, where you could see the accumulated stats across all the seasons you played?
m2, but I want to find the best PES for Playstation 4 too, because my PS3 controllers are breaking down and we are bored with PES13.. But everyone says something different! PES16 - 17 or PES20 - 21
@@UltimoGames 17 bro. Buy 17, trust me. And if u want something more realistic, an emulator, then buy 19. 16 is good but 17 is way better in everything and 20/21 both are atrocious.
In my personal opinion I think PES5 should be ranked Very Good, PES6 is obviously GOAT. PES2009 was quite decent and 2011 probably the best they every made. I don't think you actually know a whole lot about these games at all because 2011 had groundbreaking tactical progress, for example, which you aren't even mentioning as a change or improvement over 2010.
Very Good : PES 3, PES 2, Good : PES 6, PES 4, PES 2017, PES 1, PES 5 Fair : PES 2015, PES 2011, PES 2012, PES 2013 (i believe this one was a bit overrated) Bad : PES 2010, PES 2016, PES 2014, Trash : PES 2008, PES 2009, any PES after 2017
You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about lmao, PES 2008 was made the year after PES 6 and the last half of the video you just talk about Fifa and rank games you haven't played, PES 2009, 2010 and 2011 are all amazing games
You're talking about PES but you keep mentioning Fifa! That's mad. PES 11 deserved better tbh.... It had different mechanics from the previous one. PES 11, 12 and 13 was pretty much same mechanics, only that I'd rank PES 13 ahead of 11 and 12.
PES 3 poor? PES 4 and 5 decent? Judging by the fact that PES 6 is on top says a lot. PES 6 is prob the most famous PS2 PES game for some reason even though PES 5 is better. But ive never enjoyed more while playing PES 3 because of the variety of games
Someone isnt old enough to have played pes1,2 and 3 when that ahit was the pinnacle of football games and everyone would laugh at you for even suggesting fifa (i still remember fifa 98 and how by spamming the sprint button which was triangle for some reason, you could phase through players just run into the goal. I remember winning 38-0 and scoring from mid field. It was just a shit broken game). Me and my stepbrot would play this shit on vacation and they would bring their modded japaness winning eleven copies and fighting sticks (good old time when arcade sticks were used for pes) and they had all the current jerseys and shoes and teams, all the latest and coolest nike and adidas shoes like the total 90 II abd total 90 III, which i actually used myself while playing football in the little leagues.. Pes 2 was good but pes 3 and 4 were the GOAT. Hands down the golden age of football and football videogames.
what are you talking about pes was better all the way up until the pes 14,pes 14 was horrible and sinca that game fifa surpased pes,and also the pes 13 is goat tier
Ce n'est pas du tout un commentaire haineux comment tu peux dire ça ? C'est une critique et un avis constructif et je ne t'ai pas insulté ou rabaissé hein ! Ton classement est assez mauvais tout simplement c'est hallucinant de voir ça c'est mon avis et autour de moi toutes les personnes que je côtoie sont d'accord , personnellement je me demande si tu as bien joué à tous ces jeux tellement que ton classement est lunaire , si tu as mal pris mon commentaire c'est que tu as vraiment un problème tu dois te faire une autocritique pour voir ce qui ne vas pas, je pense que tu es susceptible ou alors tu es de mauvaise fois pour prendre mon commentaire de base comme haineux c'est assez dingue de me dire ça apparemment tu n'aime pas te faire critiquer alors que justement ça doit te servir pour être meilleur, refait ton classement avec d'autres joueurs (expérimenté) débat avec eux et tu verras ton classement sera + logique parce que là il est tout juste catastrophique
Pes 6 and Pes 2013 .. all rest is trash.. Speaking as PC player, for us is not that hard to use mods and add licenced clubs, for console players.. can be tricky.
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Stopped watching the minute you dropped Pes 3 into the poor category. No point going any further. 😂
The whole second half of the video you’re just talking about fifa and what you ‘heard’ what’s the point of making a tier list?
I wonder
Dude.
i mean you can compare i started with PES games than around 2015 went to FIFA games,now i want to play all pes games i missed after 2013-14
ranking games you didn't even play...fucking lol, lmao even
Haha, raking pes 5 in decent but pes 6 (which is basically the same game but faster) on the top... he probably didn't even play pes 5 or 6 recently.
You have said everything with that sentance. Guy is a casual, his voice too
@@pafoneto1275bro pes 6 with the shop it was away funnier pes 6 definitely top tier pes of all time
I remember playing PES 3 for the first time scoring a free kick with Del Piero. Dude I was so blown away by the graphics, no kidding.
Pes 2017 is the best of the recent pes games, 2013 and 2017
agree and the goat is pes5
@@2dgamecity yes pes 5 was very good
Exactly m8. The 2 best pes games ever along with 5.
@@SpideyTheMighty 6 is better than 5
but pes 2017 in PC is very awful
I love that you show videos and artwork of the games you are talking about, instead of only just talking to the same boring tier list screen all the time like others do.
For me PES 5 is the best PES game. PES 6 was good but not the Goat. Pes 2013 was really something, but i really loved play to PES 2011 and PES 2012 at the time (and i still play sometimes). PES 2018 was fun and give me great memories.
And the worst for me was PES 2014... (I don't play PES 2008 on PS3)
i agree with you pes 5 is the best pes 6 witn adrinao ws too fast easy score u shoudl try wining eleven 9 liveware evolution is atwicked version of pes 5
PES 2011 and 2012 could have been the much better, but both are still good. They improved it in PES 2013, but unfortunately all the classic heroes and legends were gone from the game by then.
@psibrunojusto 2011 2012 graphics and how player run its really funny u don't see that like thy are handicapped specially tall player not like ps2
When you put PES 2019 in the poor category, then your list sucks and you have no clue.
Indeed, it's arguably the best game of the PES era.
@@prodigy84bg It is! I still play it.
@@mohamedmontaser7494 I recently bought the PS4 disc, as I only had it on Steam and I wanted to have a physical copy of my favourite PES game. Although I'm mainly into online and play a lot of eFootball, I still enjoy PES 2019' s gameplay.
PES2019 has one of the best gameplay recently indeed. And the graphics are awesome, too.
@@nguyenminhanh8954 but its gameplay feel hard man
How do you rank something you never played.
I still remember my excitement at the store buying PES2008. I was like if PES6 was so much better than the awesome PES5, I cannot imagine how good PES2008 might be! And then I played it. Once. And then got back to PES6 again.
1. PES 1 to 2013 had great gameplay.
2. PES 2014 onwards used a "different engine", the FOX engine, and the games had horrible clunky FIFA like mechanics.
3. PES 2021 was a good game but needed modding and by this time FIFA had already won due to Real names and card collecting.
Pes 1 to 6 are the best pes I’m still playing them all of them and IMO the best football games ever made
I agree that pes 6 is the only one that is top tier because of the pes shop... But boy did pes 13 bring so much to the table... Also pes 2010/16 had the best music which should be a big factor.. Pes 16 isn't that good of a pes game.. It just had the second best music ( imo pes 10 still has the best music you should check out the library it exists in RUclips) great video and great ranking tho 💕
Facts 🤝💯
I was playing Pes 5 and my girlfriend in the other room said “what are ya playing?” Couldn’t believe it was a football game. The old school ones had some great ost 😂
PES 2017 is the last truly great pro evo game on the ps4 era. It was excellent and in my opinion one of, if not the best pes of all time. It is on par with the 2013 and 5/6 versions. The problem is that, after the disasterous 2014 version and the mediocre 2015 version, many people switched to fifa and never came back. 2016 ironically was a good game and better than the previous ones but 2017 was peak gaming, way better than 2016, the must fun and most balanced pes, hands down. 2018 made me feel weird when paying it. It was something that i just didnt like about that game. The graphics, the AI behavior, the grass which looked like a big green plastic hall, i dont know. The one that i bought (again) recently is 2019, because i think that after the datapacks and updates it became a VERY good pes indeed. It just had a rough start on the season. Efootball 2020/21 were the reason i stopped playing pes games and this says alot.
I'm 34 years old and still a hxc PES2021 fan. I've actually play them all at their release and think an actual solid tier list would be:
GOAT's:
- PES2013
- PES6
Very Good:
- PES2021
- PES2016
- PES5
Decent:
- PES2020
- PES2019
- PES2018
- PES2017
- PES2015
- PES2011
- PES2010
- PES2009
- PES4
- PES3
- PES2
- Pro Evolution Soccer
Poor:
- PES2012
- PES2008
Trash:
- PES2014
Very solid!
This comment is better than video!
I totally agree. 2013 is the best ever PES game!
You are definitely not an OG.
just add 2017 to the top list
My favourite PES games of the Franchise, especially from the old but gold Era of PS2 are PES 4, 5 and 6. 🤷🏻♂️✌️
It’s mind blowing just how far ahead PES was over FIFA. Pro evo 3 compared to FIFA 2003 is laughable. Agreed on pro evo 6 being goated though. Am playing it this weekend with an old school mate. The nostalgia is going to be epic.
Pes 6 is still the best one
Facts 💯
No
Ok so about the rankings of 1-3. Trust me when I say they were really good games back then. For us back in the day Iss pro evolution 1 was decent, 2 was Very Good and 3 GOAT tier.
Does anyone remember which PES had the all time goals scorers feature in Master League, where you could see the accumulated stats across all the seasons you played?
PES 6 has that feature, I’ve always liked that
Pes6/5/4 and pes 12/13/16/17 this ones are the best ones I played all of them if u wonder I like 21 with mods aswell on pc
Having played all the Pes games, i personally disagree with the majoriy of this list, some games that you listed as trash were really fun
Yeah PES 2009 is not bad at all, and 2011 is better than 2010
I am still playing pes 13
m2, but I want to find the best PES for Playstation 4 too, because my PS3 controllers are breaking down and we are bored with PES13..
But everyone says something different! PES16 - 17 or PES20 - 21
@@UltimoGames 17 bro. Buy 17, trust me. And if u want something more realistic, an emulator, then buy 19. 16 is good but 17 is way better in everything and 20/21 both are atrocious.
@@SpideyTheMighty So many opinions about what is the best PES.. I like PES 6, 13 and 20.
PES5 PES6 and that PES2020 demo are the best for me. Second tier PES13, PES17, PES11 and PES21.
PES 3 its actually the best. you should try it.
guys i realli miss pes uefa vibes, what in your opinion is the latest and best game with that vibe?
good i like this choosing but pes 2 and pes 3/4 deserve to be at decent tier. and pes 11 very good tier
PES 2004 just like my birth day 😊
In my personal opinion I think PES5 should be ranked Very Good, PES6 is obviously GOAT. PES2009 was quite decent and 2011 probably the best they every made.
I don't think you actually know a whole lot about these games at all because 2011 had groundbreaking tactical progress, for example, which you aren't even mentioning as a change or improvement over 2010.
Pes 2008 on the psp was legendary
Facts 💯
PES6 was good but not the best... PES3 has the best gameplay of all football games.
Interesting opinion
Spent lot of a great time playing PES3❤❤❤
Which PES's allowed you put in a picture of yourself as the manager rather than having to design it yourself in a editor?
Pes 5 was the best man . Ahead of its time
dunno about PES, but i used to play winning eleven. Awesome game.
You sayin PEZ instead of P.E.S is a major factor that show you are a casual player.
I really don't agree with PES 2008. The World tour was one of the coolest game modes in football games.
PES 6 and PES 2008(good music) was the best for me.
Very Good : PES 3, PES 2,
Good : PES 6, PES 4, PES 2017, PES 1, PES 5
Fair : PES 2015, PES 2011, PES 2012, PES 2013 (i believe this one was a bit overrated)
Bad : PES 2010, PES 2016, PES 2014,
Trash : PES 2008, PES 2009, any PES after 2017
anyone give me recommendation top 5 pes games for ps2 please 😁
You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about lmao, PES 2008 was made the year after PES 6 and the last half of the video you just talk about Fifa and rank games you haven't played, PES 2009, 2010 and 2011 are all amazing games
Winning Eleven on n64 was the foundation
I played it many times but Pes 6 isn't goat, Konami skipped 2007 to make pes 2008, and fifa just wasn't good back then 😂
You do know you have to actually play a game to be eligible to rank it,
Because i can tell you've never played pes2020 and pes2021
Pes 2009 deserves more
bro pes 2012 is one of the best at least in my opinion
You're talking about PES but you keep mentioning Fifa! That's mad. PES 11 deserved better tbh.... It had different mechanics from the previous one. PES 11, 12 and 13 was pretty much same mechanics, only that I'd rank PES 13 ahead of 11 and 12.
PES 3 poor? PES 4 and 5 decent? Judging by the fact that PES 6 is on top says a lot. PES 6 is prob the most famous PS2 PES game for some reason even though PES 5 is better. But ive never enjoyed more while playing PES 3 because of the variety of games
Someone isnt old enough to have played pes1,2 and 3 when that ahit was the pinnacle of football games and everyone would laugh at you for even suggesting fifa (i still remember fifa 98 and how by spamming the sprint button which was triangle for some reason, you could phase through players just run into the goal. I remember winning 38-0 and scoring from mid field. It was just a shit broken game).
Me and my stepbrot would play this shit on vacation and they would bring their modded japaness winning eleven copies and fighting sticks (good old time when arcade sticks were used for pes) and they had all the current jerseys and shoes and teams, all the latest and coolest nike and adidas shoes like the total 90 II abd total 90 III, which i actually used myself while playing football in the little leagues..
Pes 2 was good but pes 3 and 4 were the GOAT. Hands down the golden age of football and football videogames.
PES 3 all day...
Lol... I looked and saw PES 3 second from lowest tier. 3 & 5 are Tier 1, all day long.
You already lost me When you talked about PES 1-3 to be poor !
You didn’t played it 😅
goat = pes 5, pes 13, pes 18
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Pes 5 is goat lol
what are you talking about pes was better all the way up until the pes 14,pes 14 was horrible and sinca that game fifa surpased pes,and also the pes 13 is goat tier
C'est une mauvaise tiers list c'est n'importe quoi voir même débile
laisser un commentaire haineux sur une vidéo c'est un peu pathétique vous ne trouvez pas
Ce n'est pas du tout un commentaire haineux comment tu peux dire ça ? C'est une critique et un avis constructif et je ne t'ai pas insulté ou rabaissé hein ! Ton classement est assez mauvais tout simplement c'est hallucinant de voir ça c'est mon avis et autour de moi toutes les personnes que je côtoie sont d'accord , personnellement je me demande si tu as bien joué à tous ces jeux tellement que ton classement est lunaire , si tu as mal pris mon commentaire c'est que tu as vraiment un problème tu dois te faire une autocritique pour voir ce qui ne vas pas, je pense que tu es susceptible ou alors tu es de mauvaise fois pour prendre mon commentaire de base comme haineux c'est assez dingue de me dire ça apparemment tu n'aime pas te faire critiquer alors que justement ça doit te servir pour être meilleur, refait ton classement avec d'autres joueurs (expérimenté) débat avec eux et tu verras ton classement sera + logique parce que là il est tout juste catastrophique
Pes 6 and Pes 2013 .. all rest is trash.. Speaking as PC player, for us is not that hard to use mods and add licenced clubs, for console players.. can be tricky.
Looks like youve never played 3 or 5 my guy...
@@The1nOnlyJohnDoe Maybe i did.. was long time ago, i know i played so many winning eleven's all on japanese tho.. even text lol
PES 6 PES 13 PES 20 .. 🏆🏆🏆
Pes 2009 ps2 e o 6 é top
Pes3 was a dope
Old but Gold
Wrost rank ever u didn't play 1,2,3
PES 6 is good but not the best in my opinion
Lol 2021 is goated better than decent
Worst list ever
en tu cas te gorrean
Never rank games
Pes 16 is shit
Poor comparison!
Just delete this video
Trash review