For me PES19 always had the most enjoyable gameplay. I don't understand why this version was so unpopular. Maybe because KONAMI lost CL and EL licenses?
PES increases the difficulty of the game by lowering the player's stats as the they act slow and stupid compared to the AI (you can test with legend mode). It's cool for a stupid game to think it can trick players like this.
The golden era was from 03-06 on ps2. PES was always had the better game play. But too many kids liked the licensing and the packs and all that other rubbish which for me personally ruined the game and franchise.
golden era of Konami's PES was actually late 90s and early 2000s. starting with ISS/Winning Eleven games from PS1 to WE/PES games on PS2 PES ruled that era, until PES 6. after then, FIFA started to improve with 08 to 11 and totally take over with 12-13-14. altough FIFA is making same game every year polished with updated kits and rosters since the last 6-7 years, it has no competition anymore
Do you know on Pes the players run în 8 wars ? Choosing long grass rainy or snowy weather conditions the gameplay feels slower and more fluid while at short dry grass a little bit faster ? OMG you missed the best football games and simulators,not arcade pinball circus fake bubble gum football without substance with many rugby scores 9-5 8-4 etc lol where you put Ronaldo as keeper and he keeps his same rating lol like fifa ruclips.net/video/sSxNFpdtjdA/видео.htmlsi=uwvuO8TbrWkNJ9D8
Plus, updated stadiums, ratings, chants, player faces and features, gameplay, I actually thought it was too good to be true until I downloaded it. it's way better than the efootball in my opinion and 2025 is getting released October, so better features incoming, and it is all pes, not efootball
I used to read the magazine PSM2 UK it was a running joke trope on the writing team for years how Pro Evo used to slum it with no licenses but was light years beyond big old evil infinite money FIFA. They'd make masterpiece yearly games and you could tell they'd poured all their hearts into it. They seemed to spend most of their lunchtimes playing Pro Evo and were obsessed with the Master League. Then suddenly FIFA got good at gameplay (possibly due to the ridicule eventually hitting sales) and it was game over for Pro Evo.
As someone who grew up early 2000s playing both FIFA & PES (leaned more FIFA then because it was getting annoying to remember that 'Square" was to shoot instead of 'Circle' lol). I actually would be happy if PES or something similar came out to compete with FIFA! i agree, with the lack of competition; FIFA (EAFC) would begin feel like a recycled game. FUT is fun, and i like the house rules/street features. But i think if PES could get the backing, where they'll be allowed to focus on the mechanics, maybe a few important license. EAFC would have to step their game up!
It's not on unreal engine. The visuals and cut scenes are done on unreal engine, but the gameplay and physics and everything else is done on the same engine they used for every Pes game.
Apparently the FIFA license does not give you the license to all the leagues. It just gives you the FIFA name. They would have to buy the licenses separately. That is why EA could easily tell FIFA where to get off when they wanted more money for just 4 letters. Konami needs big pockets.
I think moving on from annual releases to a live service makes a lot of sense for a football game. But that's about it when it comes to positives... in it's present state the game will be dead in few years.
I'm really disappointed that they took out the become a legend mode. I used to play FIFA, but I switched to proevolution after a time. And I'll never go back to FIFA. But not having BAL is a huge step backwards IMHO. But I know everything is geared towards online gaming now and it's all about money.
PES was a more manual game than FIFA and you will only understand what I’m saying by actually playing it. PES was the standard for realistic console soccer games.
I just fires up my PES 2018 for the first time in 3 years and it's great. I'm using a file that allows me to have all the official teams, competitions and players and I was looking back at the Nottingham Forest team I took to conquer the world with years in my eyes. They were my boys. 😂
Konami spat on all the people that made the game what it was, the game that could keep up with FIFA because of the dedicated fans since PES and even ISS on nintendo. What a way to completely and shamelessly try cash in on a disgusting gaming trend. I hope the company goes bankrupt.
They switched from Fox engine to Unreal Engine so they had to redo most of the work they did in PES 21. We're going to have to wait for them to bring back the missing features.
I appreciate the quality and substance of your content, which is both informative and well-researched. However, I would suggest varying your tone and pitch to enhance listener engagement. A more dynamic vocal delivery could significantly elevate the overall impact of your presentation and maintain audience interest throughout.
Pes was the best football game to me. Despite the sales. The mechanics of the game were simple enough to make me drop fifa for it. Well, there is still hope. Now that EA and Fifa have parted ways, Konami has a chance to make a comeback. If Fifa will help them out.
Dude claiming the name change was a big deal... the problem was the game... PES was not always PES... It used to be Winning Eleven until they decided to make one called Winning Eleven Pro Evolution Soccer... and you can guess what happned after.
Great video…I really hope Konami can get back to what made PES great…it would be good to have 3 companies now fighting to get players (2K, EA, and Konami)… I played FIFA 23 and FC24 on gamepass and seeing how they literally just recycle everything from year to year makes me mad confused how ppl can actually spend money on this series
Well, I just play pes 2021 on the pc with modern patches. Solves all licencing issues. Fifa will always be shit and I'll never give it the time of day! E Football 2022 was indeed the worst piece of crap Konami have ever produced! Utter dogsht so although I'll always be greatfull for 2021, that's it for me! I'm only interested in the Master league, it's a deal breaker for me!
Konami is absolute trash. They dont give any resources or permission to the pes team to improve it and then they abandon it. They lost the people who knew how to work on pes so they couldnt continue it and had to go all in on their mobile version and skip a year to bring it to pc. Do a video on football life 25 !!!!! Love and blessings!
They removed master league so no there's no redeeming this franchise without that, all they care about is shitty ultimate team that's not why I bought pes, its a disgrace
I really love pro evolution soccer, the gameplay and graphics were awesome, they were just supposed to have a better marketing strategy may be by region instead of competing with fifa, I miss PES, I still play the PES 19 even today for most part it's more realistic to me than fifa with its cartoon gameplay... PES was a masterpiece
Maybe its because you young but there is a much bigger backstory. To start with one of the biggest problem. “seabass” left after 2018. Up until then he was like a senior director or something like that, more or less every success (alot of it) and failure of pes was down to him. He received alot of criticism over pes 2014 and since then there was shakey ground. Since he left it was very clear that the direction/culture within pes games had changed instantly. Just go look at the 2 trailers…night n day. They begun to want to appeal to more western demographics, they ditched asian pop songs from their menus in favour of indie. Gameplay features were fading away, aswel as player i.d. ….it all became about bridging the move towards myclub n online play. Seabass i’ll admit was very stubborn. However i strongly feel given the time he would’ve gotten pes back to where it needed to be. Master league was their golden ticket yet yr after yr they never took advantage. - poor valuations of players compared to real life made transfers feel fake. Or teams having poor transfer budgets when in real life its clear it should be more. - they took way too long to make their skill moves more fluid and easy to use. - the integration to the fox engine was also a huge factor, pes 2014 was a shit show for the first 3 months. Ive never seen a worse release. Several big name stars didn’t have real faces and there was this jitter bug that would cause a lag if you had too many players in the box. 😮 i could go on and on. But what i hated was the fact that konami saw seabass as being too technical when in fact the very things that made pes stand out are exactly what fifa has implemented into their newer games. pes 2014 was their downfall. Even me as a lifelong pes fan it was the beginning when i started to entertain buying both fifa n pes games because i felt pes just were never innovative enough. It took until pes 2016/17 before we saw full 360 degree movement with the left stick…by that point fifa had been doing that for 2-3 years.
dont get me started on pace not feeling like pace. You could have mertasaker catch up with walcott - goalkeepers were a problem for many years, they’ve never got this right on next gen.
For me that's because fifa got waaaaaaay better than pes back then. Pes wasn't realistic, it was arcade football, especially 2008 and 2009. I went then from 2010 to fifa and it was night and day. And i think many people think the same and that's why pes died so quickly. Pes4-pes6 DESTROYED fifa 05-07. It wasn't even a competition. Pes was ways ahead of it's time with these 3 games but then lost track somehow, at least for me.
I’ve never gotten the chance to try pes I only got into football games after Pes got discontinued So I downloaded FL25 since it’s a pes 2021 mod and it’s SO MUCH better than the fifa games It’s a shame fifa ended up being the winner out of the two competitors
today,i tried efootball after 4 yeays not playing games.at first its look like mobile games,with gatcha or draw something like that.. Ignored, just playing casual..until my friends came up and say, how about online match... so we try..F2P..well..its disaster, 2222 power point vs 377+- something like that in matchmacking... got wreck🥲🥲..japanese team with maradona?😯 beckham?😲 Messi?😳 CR7?😧 and lots more...full team with glither bling bling card.😣.Gold.well..i say..goodbye Efootball..my friends refuse to play too.Playing FC25 is better..Now Efootball is Pay 2 Win games..Sorry not for casual player. Miss PES21 (ignore my bad English)😅
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I really miss pro evolution soccer. I've tried my level best to get on with FIFA but simply can't. PES was always more fun and easy to get on with.
i miss it i swear pes 2018 and 2019 the best
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right???????? I feel like im playing stick football when im playing fifa. PES is much more realistic and enjoyable
That means you were not good at FIFA
@@ebenezersiaw935 no that means we doesn't understand the complex mechanic of fifa
For me PES19 always had the most enjoyable gameplay. I don't understand why this version was so unpopular. Maybe because KONAMI lost CL and EL licenses?
PES football manager at mobile also so much fun, but already closed now
The Best PES is by far PES 6
after PES 8 things got worst
@@zlouga i was pes6 fan too. You really need to try pes 17 or 19!
PES increases the difficulty of the game by lowering the player's stats as the they act slow and stupid compared to the AI (you can test with legend mode). It's cool for a stupid game to think it can trick players like this.
Konami is an embarrassment,Japan is usually known for quality and its ability to deliver great product but i wonder why konami fell off
I rate PES 2009 to this day because it was my first football game. 2016 and 17 also gave me good times
Same
Yes! I even remember they called it winning eleven
The golden era was from 03-06 on ps2. PES was always had the better game play. But too many kids liked the licensing and the packs and all that other rubbish which for me personally ruined the game and franchise.
golden era of Konami's PES was actually late 90s and early 2000s. starting with ISS/Winning Eleven games from PS1 to WE/PES games on PS2
PES ruled that era, until PES 6. after then, FIFA started to improve with 08 to 11 and totally take over with 12-13-14.
altough FIFA is making same game every year polished with updated kits and rosters since the last 6-7 years, it has no competition anymore
Loool since Pes 15 to 21 Pes won everywhere ! Loool
Do you know on Pes the players run în 8 wars ? Choosing long grass rainy or snowy weather conditions the gameplay feels slower and more fluid while at short dry grass a little bit faster ? OMG you missed the best football games and simulators,not arcade pinball circus fake bubble gum football without substance with many rugby scores 9-5 8-4 etc lol where you put Ronaldo as keeper and he keeps his same rating lol like fifa ruclips.net/video/sSxNFpdtjdA/видео.htmlsi=uwvuO8TbrWkNJ9D8
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But fifa was more popular@@alessandrodelpierojuventus8156
This is it. I can't believe people don't see it. Fifa was bad till 07. Pes 5 and pes 6 was peak pes. Since pes 2008 it began to decline sharply
PES 2 for the PS1 is one of the best football games ever, to me it’s that and sensible soccer for the mega drive, I still play both games to this day
I recommend Football Life 2024 for PES career mode fans, it's a fan project with original leagues/clubs based on PES 2021.
Plus, updated stadiums, ratings, chants, player faces and features, gameplay,
I actually thought it was too good to be true until I downloaded it.
it's way better than the efootball in my opinion and 2025 is getting released October, so better features incoming, and it is all pes, not efootball
The reason because EA was a lot smarter to destroy PES, and Konami gave it up very quickly. Konami was very lazy to rescue its game.
Not lazy ..the employees need to be paid and with so much less sales..not even reaching 1 million, they failed and gave up
One thing I will say is alot more people played PES more than fifa because it was easily cracked and played free
efootball is still a joke after 2 years, very minimal actual content and all they do is releasing the same cards weekly
I used to read the magazine PSM2 UK it was a running joke trope on the writing team for years how Pro Evo used to slum it with no licenses but was light years beyond big old evil infinite money FIFA. They'd make masterpiece yearly games and you could tell they'd poured all their hearts into it.
They seemed to spend most of their lunchtimes playing Pro Evo and were obsessed with the Master League.
Then suddenly FIFA got good at gameplay (possibly due to the ridicule eventually hitting sales) and it was game over for Pro Evo.
As someone who grew up early 2000s playing both FIFA & PES (leaned more FIFA then because it was getting annoying to remember that 'Square" was to shoot instead of 'Circle' lol). I actually would be happy if PES or something similar came out to compete with FIFA! i agree, with the lack of competition; FIFA (EAFC) would begin feel like a recycled game. FUT is fun, and i like the house rules/street features. But i think if PES could get the backing, where they'll be allowed to focus on the mechanics, maybe a few important license. EAFC would have to step their game up!
haha square and circle...back those days,,,actualy PES was my first game over FIFA
The reason efootball is so different from the pes games is because it's on a new engine, they rebuilt the game from ground up on unreal engine
It's not on unreal engine. The visuals and cut scenes are done on unreal engine, but the gameplay and physics and everything else is done on the same engine they used for every Pes game.
Well, they tried to become the game for e-sports and failed miserably.
The last good pes was pes 2021 with the euros. With "efootball" 2022 everything went downhill.
Efootball 2022 ruined everything. People still think the player models are trash because of this game and don't bother to give it another try
Best Video explaining PES's demise. I really hope they pick up the FIFA license they honestly deserve it.
Bruh?
I hope too
Apparently the FIFA license does not give you the license to all the leagues. It just gives you the FIFA name. They would have to buy the licenses separately. That is why EA could easily tell FIFA where to get off when they wanted more money for just 4 letters. Konami needs big pockets.
I think moving on from annual releases to a live service makes a lot of sense for a football game. But that's about it when it comes to positives... in it's present state the game will be dead in few years.
PES allowed you to download EVERY player/roster/kit/everything!!!!
I'm really disappointed that they took out the become a legend mode. I used to play FIFA, but I switched to proevolution after a time. And I'll never go back to FIFA. But not having BAL is a huge step backwards IMHO.
But I know everything is geared towards online gaming now and it's all about money.
I loved pes 2011 where you could slate each other on the text 😂
I think it is the best one in my opinion
😂
PES was a more manual game than FIFA and you will only understand what I’m saying by actually playing it. PES was the standard for realistic console soccer games.
I just fires up my PES 2018 for the first time in 3 years and it's great. I'm using a file that allows me to have all the official teams, competitions and players and I was looking back at the Nottingham Forest team I took to conquer the world with years in my eyes. They were my boys. 😂
Konami spat on all the people that made the game what it was, the game that could keep up with FIFA because of the dedicated fans since PES and even ISS on nintendo. What a way to completely and shamelessly try cash in on a disgusting gaming trend. I hope the company goes bankrupt.
a little harsh bro. it's a free to play game and they give people free coins and players.
the last pes game i willing to spend was pes 2018 where they have ucl...after that i stop and keep downloading patch
They switched from Fox engine to Unreal Engine so they had to redo most of the work they did in PES 21. We're going to have to wait for them to bring back the missing features.
The golden era of PES was late 90s up to about 2006. Certainly not after that
I appreciate the quality and substance of your content, which is both informative and well-researched. However, I would suggest varying your tone and pitch to enhance listener engagement. A more dynamic vocal delivery could significantly elevate the overall impact of your presentation and maintain audience interest throughout.
PES was the best football game between in the 2009 - 2013 years and suddenly in the 2014, FIFA became the leader.
Fifa took over most consoles because of fifa 09 and reigned supreme as the more commonly player game ever since. That is just 1000% a fact aswell
@@R10Dawkinsits opinion
Pes is still the king because it has good controls
I don't understand how people preferred fifa over the old PES before changes the engine ! PES 2013 was one of the best games I ever played.
pes 18 gameplay was the best I ever played. Advanced shooting was superb but now Advanced shooting in efootball 24 is now terrible 😳 😕
Pes18 was my last game and till today for me the best Part
I feel you bro.
Pes was the best football game to me. Despite the sales. The mechanics of the game were simple enough to make me drop fifa for it. Well, there is still hope. Now that EA and Fifa have parted ways, Konami has a chance to make a comeback. If Fifa will help them out.
You deserve more views bruh
I wished the efootball developers should add real tattoo features of every players and also fit body status
The golden era was 00 to 06. Shite after that.
FIFA is a great game but, prime Pes was definitely superior.
In my eyes, "Manager Career" is always inferior to "Master League".
Missed that game.
Dude claiming the name change was a big deal... the problem was the game... PES was not always PES...
It used to be Winning Eleven until they decided to make one called Winning Eleven Pro Evolution Soccer... and you can guess what happned after.
i still play pes 2018 with my bro🤘
👍
How?
Gave up playing football games in general ..😢
can you give me your efootball account?
am i the only one who still plays pes 2018, pes 2019 and fifa 19?
Us bro😢
Great video…I really hope Konami can get back to what made PES great…it would be good to have 3 companies now fighting to get players (2K, EA, and Konami)… I played FIFA 23 and FC24 on gamepass and seeing how they literally just recycle everything from year to year makes me mad confused how ppl can actually spend money on this series
Pes 06-10 was the best time for them imo. After that FIFA took over, however from Pes 15 til 2019 it was making a comeback. Then EFootball happened🙃
Replacing PES with E-Football is sad 😂
Well, I just play pes 2021 on the pc with modern patches.
Solves all licencing issues. Fifa will always be shit and I'll never give it the time of day!
E Football 2022 was indeed the worst piece of crap Konami have ever produced! Utter dogsht so although I'll always be greatfull for 2021, that's it for me! I'm only interested in the Master league, it's a deal breaker for me!
Konami is absolute trash. They dont give any resources or permission to the pes team to improve it and then they abandon it.
They lost the people who knew how to work on pes so they couldnt continue it and had to go all in on their mobile version and skip a year to bring it to pc.
Do a video on football life 25 !!!!!
Love and blessings!
i play pes on my nokia when i was young
what a good memories
Not true, PES started to decline after PES 06(which was actually their best game), after which their next good game was actually pes 16
FIFA can suck ass PES was the greatest football game ever
Pes is just a ripoff of fifa
They removed master league so no there's no redeeming this franchise without that, all they care about is shitty ultimate team that's not why I bought pes, its a disgrace
I really love pro evolution soccer, the gameplay and graphics were awesome, they were just supposed to have a better marketing strategy may be by region instead of competing with fifa, I miss PES, I still play the PES 19 even today for most part it's more realistic to me than fifa with its cartoon gameplay... PES was a masterpiece
after pes 2013 everything went to the wrong direction
In my opinion, pes 17 was last good pes
Konami could of gave us a Pes game every few years..
Maybe its because you young but there is a much bigger backstory.
To start with one of the biggest problem. “seabass” left after 2018. Up until then he was like a senior director or something like that, more or less every success (alot of it) and failure of pes was down to him. He received alot of criticism over pes 2014 and since then there was shakey ground.
Since he left it was very clear that the direction/culture within pes games had changed instantly. Just go look at the 2 trailers…night n day. They begun to want to appeal to more western demographics, they ditched asian pop songs from their menus in favour of indie. Gameplay features were fading away, aswel as player i.d. ….it all became about bridging the move towards myclub n online play.
Seabass i’ll admit was very stubborn. However i strongly feel given the time he would’ve gotten pes back to where it needed to be. Master league was their golden ticket yet yr after yr they never took advantage.
- poor valuations of players compared to real life made transfers feel fake. Or teams having poor transfer budgets when in real life its clear it should be more.
- they took way too long to make their skill moves more fluid and easy to use.
- the integration to the fox engine was also a huge factor, pes 2014 was a shit show for the first 3 months. Ive never seen a worse release. Several big name stars didn’t have real faces and there was this jitter bug that would cause a lag if you had too many players in the box. 😮
i could go on and on. But what i hated was the fact that konami saw seabass as being too technical when in fact the very things that made pes stand out are exactly what fifa has implemented into their newer games.
pes 2014 was their downfall. Even me as a lifelong pes fan it was the beginning when i started to entertain buying both fifa n pes games because i felt pes just were never innovative enough. It took until pes 2016/17 before we saw full 360 degree movement with the left stick…by that point fifa had been doing that for 2-3 years.
dont get me started on pace not feeling like pace. You could have mertasaker catch up with walcott
- goalkeepers were a problem for many years, they’ve never got this right on next gen.
For me that's because fifa got waaaaaaay better than pes back then. Pes wasn't realistic, it was arcade football, especially 2008 and 2009. I went then from 2010 to fifa and it was night and day. And i think many people think the same and that's why pes died so quickly. Pes4-pes6 DESTROYED fifa 05-07. It wasn't even a competition. Pes was ways ahead of it's time with these 3 games but then lost track somehow, at least for me.
I’ve never gotten the chance to try pes I only got into football games after Pes got discontinued
So I downloaded FL25 since it’s a pes 2021 mod and it’s SO MUCH better than the fifa games
It’s a shame fifa ended up being the winner out of the two competitors
is this guy sleeping
I do really regret pirating the game every version since 2010 😢 now
Early pes was far better than fifa 2005 to 2013 were great for pes after that went downhill for me personally
its a downfall since they decide to make messi their BA
eFootball is a disgrace. It's a PS3 game. I believed in the project, but now I think Konami should off the game and put an end to this scandale.
Efootball sucks man
In your opinion, which is the best/favorite PES ever ?
PES 2021
Great video
pes 21 was the best game
You are the only one who saw the real reason of this downfall
PES the goat>>>>> Efootball series
EFootball now is not that bad
I played my first pes 2011
PES 2016-2019 was the best
This is the best time Konami can come back with PES 2025... EAFC is trash
PES was fun
PES looks like a mobile game now.😂. R.I.P
😂
today,i tried efootball after 4 yeays not playing games.at first its look like mobile games,with gatcha or draw something like that.. Ignored, just playing casual..until my friends came up and say, how about online match... so we try..F2P..well..its disaster, 2222 power point vs 377+- something like that in matchmacking... got wreck🥲🥲..japanese team with maradona?😯 beckham?😲 Messi?😳 CR7?😧 and lots more...full team with glither bling bling card.😣.Gold.well..i say..goodbye Efootball..my friends refuse to play too.Playing FC25 is better..Now Efootball is Pay 2 Win games..Sorry not for casual player. Miss PES21
(ignore my bad English)😅
Efootball on the console is way to slow it sucks on mobile it’s fun
I'm glad it's dead. PES 21 was a trainwreck of a game.
2:55 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔
Konami still my best football all time
I miss pes
Efailball the end of konamee...
Worst control & gameplay than pes
Why is the passing and dribbling so shit???
Pes 2002 and 2006 was good I don’t like 13 16 18 21
Konami ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ya saying crap
Pro Evo 6 was the last great game plus it's hard to watch your jerky game videos
😅😅😅😅😅PES