It actually fits really well with GX's lore. GX establishes that there are 12 different universes so the world where the Orichalcos comes from and the Legendary Dragons were sealed could just be from one of those universes.
I think the protection effect of the seal is that it can’t be destroyed, but it can be banished. Since the real world legendary knights’ effects are: when they are summoned they can banish 1 spell or trap on the field. This would make sense since in the anime when all 3 are summoned they each removed one layer of the seal that Dartz played.
If that's the case then would that mean that the latter levels of the seal have the additional effect of activating the previous layer from the GY if they leave the field, otherwise only one Knight would be needed but it took all 3
@@elemomnialpha Well I know tgs anime said that the 2nd and 3rd seals were also field spells that replace the previous seal but we never actually see Dartz activate them in the field spell zone, so I always thought that they were spells in the main spell and trap card zone that boosted the field spell. But if they do replace the previous field spell maybe only 1 knight would be needed.
I gotta admit, the TCG version of The Seal of Orichalcos is pretty accurate and works really well in the realm of the show: 1) Monsters you control gain 500 ATK. 7:19 2) Once per turn can't be destroyed by card effects. 4:36 3) Your strong monsters protect your weakest monsters from being attacked. 7:21 4) Destroys all of your special summoned monsters when activated. 8:27 5) Prevents you from summoning from the Extra Deck. 8:41 6) Can only be activated once per Duel. 7) The loser is humiliated to the point of feeling his soul being ripped apart. 9:53 XD
Regarding The Seal of Orichalcos making monsters the Dark attribute, I think it's more likely that they become Dark in addition to their original attribute.
As the name seems to lead to, I think the stone is actually orichalcum. In most rpgs I’ve played that involve orichalcum in some capacity, the ore is apparently one of the most durable if not unbreakable materials to exist in fiction next to mythril and adamantite. If the worshippers of the Orichalcos used the ore as the base for creating the seal cards, then it sort of makes sense why they both can’t be penetrated from either inside or outside or why you need another shard of the stone to destroy the seal.
@@arifsalahudin6673 I figured, but I never really watched too many episodes of the orichalcos arc, except maybe some of the major duels. I remember that one episode where Atem had to duel either an illusion of or an Orichalcos possessed Yugi to try regaining the trust of Timaeus and it showed that he met the former king of Atlantis and Dartz’s sister.
@@arifsalahudin6673 actually, fun fact: in the original Atlantis story, orichalcum was actually a metal, not a stone. And there was nothing overtly magical about it, it was just slightly better than the metals other people were using
9:40 Hermos doesn't fuse with spells. It fuses with monsters to create Equip Spells. So yeah, his Rocket Hermos Cannon would just turn back into Rocket Warrior.
I think, giving the statement of the Konami employe, in the show, the seal could only be broken by using another field spell. So, Bakura would be a great help in that season with his Dark Sanctuary strat.
I can't take his comments on the card seriously. If that guy was in charge of creating the card in the actual card game then of course he needs to nerf it in order to balance it. The fact that we ended up getting what we got is clear indication of that. In the anime everything needed to be busted for plot's sake to create conflict and/or tension. Dartz alone had, if not the most busted, one of the most busted cards/decks we've seen. And of course he did, we just had an entire season of watching Egyptian Gods and shadow games; what could even top that? Kinda the same problem that Dragon Ball runs into; where you need a new villain that was hidden from all up to that point and, of course, a new transformation to top what you did the season before.
That one where it negates Yugi's Puzzle abilities might explain how, despite drawing 5 cards, Yugi wasn't able to make a comeback against Raphael in their first duel. Normally he just needs 1 amazing draw, but he got nothing with 5?
@@pn2294 actually the puzzles ability is luck the more desperate atem gets the better his draws get "fulfil one single wish of the person who had solved it and heighten its owner's chance of success in a game, judging by their skill-level as well as the importance of the game at hand."
@@pn2294 No that was it's power. This much is revealed during the Ceremonial Duel. In dire situations, it Grants the user a chance to change Fate. In the case of a card game, this means a lucky draw if the out exists within the deck. Later Series would grant this as a passive ability to all of their protagonists as it made writing the duels easier. And in universe reasons were usually given each time.
I think the refrence of the monsters turning dark or evil was foreshadowing. The seal indiscriminately corrupts all by finding whatever evil is withing the person and amplifying it. This was key in all of the lackies becoming servents of the Orichalcos. Rex and Weevil were targeted for their direvt jealously over Joey and Yugi. Mia was also going through similar struggles since yugi and Co's show of friendship had her doubt her old live philosophy and independent strength. We also learn that all of Dartz henchmen from the start were secretly groomed to have negativity and be susceptible (even if these were a stretch and really dumb once shown.) We finally learn the TRUE villain was not Dartz but the parasitic Liavathan that corrupted the Atlanteans over time into monsters (both figuratively and literally..again dumb but ok..) to claim their souls for itself. It corrupted Dartz I to the maniac he was to use him as a dark puppet and spread the corruption further. This is a mirror of Zorcs tactics from millenium world as this was a filler arc character rinspired by elements form the main manga story. Again, it seems just a way to foreshadow to the main crew that none if the characters they will be fighting in the arc are actually evil but just influenced by the seal and ANYONE can be. This especially pays off when Yami is affected by the seals influence himself and his darkness becoming more heightened is what leads to the loss of Yugi's spirit. He has to soul search to figure out if he really was as evil as he was being claimed to be. The truth is that his agressive actions were the result of the seal since anyone with any small amount of darkness at all can be targeted; and he was being manipulated to think it was just his true nature surfacing.
Yeah when you think about it Waking of the Dragons/Doma Arc is figurative and literal build up to what we'll see in Millennium World basically preparing us for what's to come
The Millunium puzzle's power is the ability to change destiny. When Yugi Moto finishes the puzzle he wishes to be able to form bonds. And through his great journey to save the world, he gets exactly what he wants. Being able to change destiny also explains how Atem is able to draw whatever he wants.
@@pn2294 He literally didn't have any friends until he solved the puzzle. His current friends were literally bullying and beating him up every other day. So nah fam, boy is useless on his own.
I really like the idea of the seal having a lingering grasp on a soul that isn’t tainted. Like someone loses, their soul isn’t taken because at the time they showed good faith or w/e but for the rest of the arc the opponents are attempting to egg them on to get the seal to take them so they win by default. Could have led to some interesting interactions.
7:27 there is a weird logic about this rule which was shown in Joey's duel with Valon, according to Valon if an Armor monster is targeted for an attack he can switch the target to another Armor monster he wants, we didn't know which Armor monster was in the Main Monster Zone & in the Spell/Trap Zone since Valon was wearing the Armor monsters in his body.
Even though it is never fully shown I always assumed that the seal could not be destroyed by any effect. After all it's not like the big bad card of the season was ever going to be got rid of by a random monster effect or a mystical space typhoon.
So it surpassed even that of Gods of Asgard, or Greek, mystic powers of Dr. Strange, ghost rider, sailor Moon's silver crystal/sailor guardians power and the Cosoms of the saints, jack's sword which have the power to destroy the evil force , power of the iron fist all combined are negated
Note the spell can be returned to the hand or banished. Darz uses it in modern yugioh- Darz- Now I use- Me- Chain cosmic cyclone. Darz- Wait what?…WHAT KIND YOU D BULL(honk) MAGICAL POWERS COULD POSSIBLY OUT BULL(honk) THE BULL(honk) MAGICAL POWERS THAT I BRING TO YOU THE ORICACMALOS!? Me- It’s way too easy to find a loophole around its destruction immunity. Now Ultimate conductor attacks for game. Darz- …Crap…
@@TheSandwhichman108 in the actual card game, yes. In one of the first games I played after buying the Yugi's World set back in the day, I had someone bounce my Seal. It was one of the most frustrating things I've ever experienced in any TCG, maybe taking second place to getting my lands blown up in Magic.
I wonder if we'll ever get the great leviathan as a card someday. Always found surprising that it wasn't a card in the anime and wasn't darts final boss monster.
It kinda helps the Leviathan that it ISN'T a card. It cannot be controlled, like Zorc's true form. It gives it the feeling that it is THAT beyond us, and doesn't submit to mere duelist mortals. Don't like the season at all, but that is a nice touch.
Probably a small thing worth noting; the original Japanese name for the card is "The Barrier of Orichalcos" (Orikarukosu no kekkai) makes the fact that there is a physical barrier more obvious.
According to Raphael, the Seal doesn't even need to be played in order to take a soul, which is why Yami was so afraid of losing. Though that could've been a lie in order to tempt Yami into playing the seal himself.
@@emreekinci4258 Yes, that’s a weird one. But that’s probably because of Dartz’s insane power. He is the master of the Orichalcos, so it wouldn’t be inaccurate to say that he could literally “will” the Sacred Seal into appearing. If you recall, he did the same thing with the Orichalcos Soldiers, he was simply able to manifest it. I think this is particularly awesome because it shows that the Seal is much more than just a card.
The Seal Of Orichalcos a stone of power that is an evil power. I was amazed at its power. This stone has been around for 10,000 Years ago. The Pharaoh was around for 5,000 years. "Oh and the loser of the duel loses their soul." This card is really unique.
@@alster724 actually that is somewhat incorrect. The millennium items(namely the millennium puzzle can push back the seal but not deny it completely, we saw that when atem lost, yugi used the puzzle to repel the seal long enough to switch places. Also the Seal's power is great enough to bind the gods even to normal duelist, though it still takes a toll on the person. Leviathan itlself is more powerful than Zorc so you could kinda us that as an argument for the seal being more powerful. The difference is more like, the seal gives fewer abilities compared to the items, but the items can't really defeat the seal.
@@borisangelov8348 nah zork is the creator of darkness zork is more powerful full than the leviathan The leviathab lost against the gods but zork defeated the gods until they fused to makes the creator of light
@@blendy-_-1138 the leviathan was weakened by losing the darkness of souls that were his prisoners and boosting the gods this way, so it was amped gods beating a weekend leviathan, also zorc was on par with the gods ultimately winning after cutting them of the sunlight.
I don't think the Seal has blanket immunity for one reason: Fiber Jar. In his duel against Mai, Joey Wheeler tried to use the effect of Fiber Jar to reset the field. Mai also had 5-6 Harpie Lady cards out. She seemed to be visibly threatened by Fiber Jar's activation and the reactions from others who were watching seemed to indicate such an effect would work. Ofc Mai used Harpie's Featherstorm to Negate Fiber Jar, so idk. Also, Joey went the entire duel without drawing Giant Trunade (Heart of the Cards pshhhhh, ya right!) so, we'll never know if bouncing all Spells/Traps could have worked.
Even if it wouldn't do anything to the seal, it would mean a HUGE lose in tempo. Lose all 6 of her harpies, and letting Joey get a fresh new hand when he was struggling to keep up. So of course she would negate it. It doesn't prove or disprove Fiber Jar's ability to affect the seal.
The Seal would be untouched by Fiber Jar, that’s pretty straightforward. As already stated by the gentleman above me, What it would do is severely cripple Mai, and that’s something she couldn’t allow, hence, why she negated it. Her 6 monster-board would be wiped, and she knew she could lose quite quickly after that…
I'd like to add that the Stone of Orichalcos as a "get out of jail for free card" has a one-way application, literally. The Seal of Orichalcos is like a safe, and as such can only be opened from the outside. Therefore, the Stone of Orichalcos can only break the seal if it's slammed into the seal from the outside. It is unclear whether or not Gurimo had a Stone of Orichalcos, but as a member of Doma it is safe to say he did. Also, as you all remember he did cower out at the end of his duel with Atem, so if he had the stone, he surely would've used it to escape the seal, except he couldn't, because the stone can't break the seal from within. Furthermore, the Seal of Orichalcos "cannot be destroyed by card effects". That is why the Legendary Knights could get rid of it by "banishing" it. Back in the day "banishing" wasn't really a thing so that's why the Legendary Knights being able to "destroy" the seal was so confusing.
I'd question the claim that the Seal negates all other magic. Yugi uses the puzzle successfully when Atem loses to Raphael, and Atem blatantly uses it against Dartz. I'm guessing it suppresses other magic, but is not absolute. Much like the first mook's claim about the Seal being indestructible, I'd take that claim with a grain of salt.
Who has a feeling that Rank-Up-Magic Barian’s Force from Zexal was inspired by this card? Think about it, a card used by the lead villains and pawns of the season, related to their origin and grants them great power as well as the symbol on their forehead. This is particularly important as Shin Yoshida wrote DM Season 4 and was the showrunner of Zexal.
Zexal has lots of similar concepts with DM, so it only makes sense. Not to mention Don Thousand vs Yuma and Nash was pretty much Dartz vs Yugi and Kaiba.
I think a lot of the anime after the original take inspiration from this arc since GX, 5ds, and Zexal all had plot points relating to the darkness within people.
1) I think it doesn't stop the powers of the millennium items just the protection they provide. It's important to note that it seemed like Yami was trying to break the seal/start a shadow game when the puzzle was crapped out. 2) I think it might actually be as easy as "can't be targeted by opponents destruction effects. Unless specifically named"
Something else to consider: if the Legendary Dragons refuse to work in conjunction with it, rendering them in the same deck incompatible, or if they can command the Egyptian Gods but it's a great strain...how much further does this go? Is it easier or harder to use an Earthbound God with them? Is it more compatible with Numbers, or with CXyz? What would happen to a LIGHT being like the Wave of Destruction (in Saiou or the D, presumably) if they were to use it? What impact, if any would it have on Zorc? on Z-ONE? on Z-ARC? on any of the various A.I. or extraterrestrial beings we've seen over the years? Heck, we've seen an ape and a pigeon duel; what would it do to them?
Ok, this Is so interesting to hear about, but I have two theories also doubling as questions: 1: If the Seal can be broken with a fragment of the Orichalcos, can the cards used to activate the Seal, which are using the Orichalcos pieces, also be used as metaphorical "Keys", so to speak? 2: the writing on the card text border intrigues me: "If thou wishes to seek our power, a great power dwells within thyself. It shall dwell within." This gives me the notion that for someone who wants power, the power/potential already exists deep inside the person, it just needs to be unlocked, my theory is that the Orichalcos God/Great Leviathan, doesn't just give you It's power to crush your enemies, it gives you a fragment of It's power to unlock your latent potential/power that is inside you, and the Seal could be a type of key for to unlock it, but the price of this unlocking is a human soul. It's actually similar to how people back in the old days of Yu-Gi-Oh used to use their own spirit energy: Ba, to materialize their monsters: Ka, and also make them stronger. I don't expect you to read this, but tell me what you think about this.
The seal likely couldn’t be removed unless displaced by another field spell. I don’t know how the meta worked back then but I do know field spells weren’t very common in actually most of the anime hero or villains. I think the only protagonist that regularly uses field spells (speed world and arc v world cards don’t count) is Judai running Skyscraper and Fusion Zone.
@@pn2294 I mean, the whole point of Yu-Gi-Oh is that the cards are magical, but they follow set rules. For example, during Battle City, Fusion monsters couldn't attack the turn they were summoned. The cards are magical, sure, but they still had to follow that rule. Effectively, we're trying to break down what the fictional rules were for the Seal of Orichalcos, disregarding the magical aspects and instead determining why specific effects work and why others don't (aka Theory-Crafting), since the physical card still had to follow the game's rules.
Yami Yugi: there’s only one card in my hand that can help me right now and free my dragon Yugi: pharaoh no Yami Yugi: we’re going to lose the duel Yugi: listen to me, this card is affecting your mind Yami Yugi: but we’re going to lose the duel. We must do this now let me go Yugi: please don’t play that card Yami Yugi: now I activate the seal of oricalchos! (What have I done) NOOOO! Yugi: ahhh!
All monsters you control gain 500 ATK. This card cannot be destroyed or negated by card effects. Your Spell & Trap Card Zones are also treated as Monster Card Zones. Monsters in your Spell & Trap Card Zones cannot be selected as attack targets unless your original Monster Card Zones are unused. During your Main Phase, you can move monsters from your original Monster Card Zones to your unused Spell & Trap Card Zones, and vice-versa. When this card is activated, destroy all cards you control that list "The Eye of Timaeus", "The Claw of Hermos", or "The Fang of Critias" in their texts, and return any other cards listed in their card texts to the field.
4:31 - Technically it's still possible. Balrog gets summoned, Balrog is Fire Attribute, Seal activates chain to summon, Balrog's effect activates, chain to seal. Balrog gains attack points, turn into a Dark Attribute, chain resumes.
3:00 what about when Yugi was facing Rafael for the first time Yugi was pushed out so he could not interact with Atem, as the seal was stopping him. Yugi used the Power of the Millennium puzzle to break the seal of Orichalcos he then pushed Atem out of the way before his soul was taken.
I think a OPT (once per turn) type protection makes the most sense given how few easy to use means of destroying spells and traps existed at the time. In addition, you could also count on one hand how many people actually played field spells outside of this arc in the DM series. They are Mako with Umi and Leon with the Golden Castle of Stromburg! Plus with how much those who used it hyped it up, they have to be compensating for something other than the soul losing part of it!
I think the Legendary Dragons used their power to reinstate Atem’s “Destiny Draw” ability. Since it doesn’t happen with Joey and Kaiba I’d say it is more likely the dragon’s counteracted the power of the Orichalcos rather than having their own version of “Destiny Draw”.
I'd think the protection effect on the seal in the anime was this card cannot be destroyed by card effects. Now when it comes to legend of heart it was able to negate all of the seals effects then destroy it.
@@pn2294 Yes, exactly. It’s a hierarchy issue (similar to how it works with the Egyptian Gods). Anything besides the Atlantean Knight’s magic is useless against the Sacred Seal.
4:12 Perhaps the seal of Oreichalcos doesn’t change the original attribute of the monster to dark, it actually ADDS the dark attribute in addition to the attribute the monsters already posses. Taking for example that fire monster you mentioned, it conserves its original attribute but thanks to the seal it can also be treated as a dark type. Dual attribute monsters are not a rare thing in Duel Monsters, so this could be a valid argument.
Hey Sam, I hope you read this comment. So, about the first of the Orichalcos evolutions. It is pronounced "thėfteros", with the "the" syllable being thick like in the word "thus". It's from the greek word δεύτερος, which means second. The next evolution is called tritos (in greek τρίτος), pronounced treetos and not traeetos, which means third. Hence them being the second and third forms! Also, fun fact: Hermos, Timaeus and Critias are the protagonists in one of Plato's hypothetical dialogues trilogy. As a greek I was really surprised that this arc of yugioh had these references! That is all, just wanted to let you know how to pronounce them correctly for the future :)
The seal of Orichalcos also has another hidden effect. "Whoever uses this card will lose the duel." The only time that someone other than the person who played the seal lost was in the three way duel against Dartz (Mr. Screw the rules). But even in that duel Dartz the user ultimately lost.
As for the level of protection that the Seal had to prevent destruction, it likely would be immune to opponent's destruction effects and couldn't be targeted, but could be bounced or banished by non-targetting effects possibly. This means that you could play another field spell to remove it from your own side of the field, but to remove it from the opponent's side of the field, you'd need something like Giant Trunade or some such. Or playing your own field spell since that wasn't a destruction effect, per say (although that wouldn't work anymore after they made each player's field spell zone able to be used simultaneously).
You forgot that the seal could also be broken (at least partially) by at least the MIllennium Puzzle, as Yugi did when he substuted his soul for The Pharaoh's.
@@borisangelov8348 his exact words were that he was using all the power of the millennium puzzle to break the seal, and the barrier did crack and break, allowing him in.
7:02 it's probably can't be destroyed by spell/traps and can be only replaced by a higher tier of a field spell card. That being said. Monster effects are fair play.
9:48 Now that you mention that Kaiba could very well have had his own Majin Vegeta moment against Yugi if he had been under the influence of the Orichalcos, but I guess they already did that sort of thing with Weevil and Rex.
That Konami interview about being able to remove the Seal is such BS; it was a transparent attempt to justify the gimped version of the card that they created for the OCG/TCG. It's absurd to think that activating Umi could have invalidated the whole arc and that the anime characters were just lying while explaining the Seal's abilities.
"It may be able to steal souls and negate the powers of the Millennium Items, but two Dust Tornadoes would have been too much for it to withstand! Oh, and it loses to Mako Tsunami." STFU
I have to say that the Seal can't be destroyed, I would include via game mechanics which would mean that at the time it would either be the only way to get 2 field spells or it would pop the other field spell. Most likely you could just say that it can't be destroyed by card effects and that neither player can activate Field spells, except "Oricalchos" spells, since otherwise you could just throw your own field spell on top of the Seal which is definitely against the concept that it's going for and you would THINK that if that was possible that everyone in Doma would run a field spell as a potential escape button in addition to the ring. If it couldn't be targeted then Dust Tornado wouldn't have been able to be activated. The Deuteros/Tritos effects would presumably be tributing or sending the Seal to the GY instead of destroying it via game mechanics since they need to be placed in sequence instead of being able to just pop Deuteros onto the field without putting the Seal first. The statement by McHale certainly doesn't read like something that is written by someone who is actually privy to anime information trying to give accurate effect text and more is him talking about translating the effect to the card game. He's specifically talking about the ruling issues putting monsters in your back row cause (inb4 Valiants) and thus why they didn't give the TCG Seal that effect. Unless McHale actually spoke with the anime writers for the episodes (most likely Yoshida, although he clearly doesn't talk with people involved with the TCG...) then his claim on the anime card's effect is honestly LESS valid than the character he claims is "just lying."
To be honest during season 4 I think it would have been cool to see Atem’s soul be taken and Yugi has to go through the whole season trying to rescue the pharaoh which also shows he is also good at card games and its not just Atem and the puzzle
I always imagined the seal to be a spell speed 4 field spell, but since atem chained dust tornado to it that can't be the case. Which then also means the seal could be negated with a higher speed effect
The Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki makes no mention of monsters become DARK attribute. It does seem they become corrupted. This would make sense for the legendary dragons to leave the field, as they then avoid the seal's corruption.
As far as the Seal of Orichalcos destruction question, I would say the effect would read something like "cannot be destroyed except by "Orichalcos" or "Legendary Knight" cards", since those are the only things we see able to destroy it. Like normal destruction cards won't destroy it, it has to specifically be another Orichalcos card or the Legendary Dragons/Knights, that's what I think Gurimo meant by "you can't destroy it like that" or whatever he said in response to Dust Tornado.
I think the seal had something like a Divine hierarchy like the Egyptian and wicked gods did. Making it unaffected by everything except by a card with a hierarchy that equals or beats it. I assume the base form has the lowest and the upgraded forms raise the hierarchy. The only cards to match the hierarchy of the final upgrade are the legendary knights.
You kinda semi-missed one thing: It's heavily implied that the Seal of Orichalcos betrays its user by boosting several character traits that increase the likelihood of misplays, such as arrogance for example.
It would seem that the Seal of Orichalcos can't be _destroyed_ by card effects, but I wonder if it could be removed from the field otherwise? Say, sent directly to the Graveyard with no destruction (like Chaos Emperor Dragon or Gandora), or returned to the hand (like Giant Trunade).
the way that this was beat in duel links was that. The seal of orichalchos can only be played once per duel. I just found a way to return it back it to person's hand. They could not use it again due to the once per duel effect.
The Seal on the field is tight to the Stone too. As long as the power source is still on, the Seal remains indestructible and cannot be replaced by other field cards unless a counter power on the field
Also I just love the fact that you did a whole video speculating on the true effects of a card that was created for a non Canon filler arc of an anime based on a children's card game that was in turn based on a manga about a children's card game that was itself based on a supernatural horror manga themed around various different games with deadly consequences
Whenever I hear the "Great Leviathan" in this arc, I always think of the _Dreadnought Leviathan_ airship from FFXII, where you get to take out Judge Ghis on your first arrival and Vossler onboard the _Shiva_ after the events of the Tomb of the Wraithking. 🤣
2:51 All Of those theories could work, Atem did put way more effort into that destiny draw than he normally does. In fact that could be your next video, top 10 most epic destiny draws. I will definitely put that one as my number one pick. Please do it, if you reply to this comment and tell me that you’ll do it if I become a Patreon member first then I’ll do it.
This is a good topic in the Yu-Gi-Oh series. Although the Orichalcos existed way before the Millennium Items, it is revealed that the Millennium Puzzle is way more powerful than the Seal of Orichalcos as it is revealed at the end of the first Atem/Yami Yugi-Rafael due to the fact that the Puzzle can break the Seal causing Yugi to interfere the Seal's power and sacrifice himself to save the Pharaoh.
Technicaly the puzzle only pushed the seal back long enough for the two to switch, also the seal was able to keep yugi and the puzzles power negated for a long time so you could argue the two powers to be on similar level, and take into consideration that was oy 1 out of the 3 levels of the seal.
Orichalco was a material described in Plato's narrative about the atlantis and is a mysthical material, similar to copper (plato describe it as mountain copper)
The Card Destruction effect was only tested once, and I believe I mentioned this in another video of yours, as if you did this a second time, it will happen. Same for the real life version. Well, technically, Kaiba & Joey can be considered originally evil due to their actions. Kaiba, with....everything in episode 1. Joey, with the time that he and Tristan bullied Yugi.
One thing also that I found kind of weird was the seal's soul-capturing ability. It could only steal one soul per duel. However, as we know you have to lose the duel to lose your soul. When Joey duels Mai the second time around. Joey doesn't lose the duel. Yes, Mai could have won and had the win there, but she did not attack. Joey's life points did not drop to zero. He collapsed due to the intense duel he had with Valon and was weakened going into the Mai duel. Overall, he didn't lose the duel yet his soul was still captured. So maybe the seal can capture your soul if you are weakened enough to see the duel out. Similar to Alistar when he threatened Kaiba that he was going to stall until the plane crashed. He said that the seal would capture all 3 of us. I think the seal's soul-capture effect should have been explained better in the anime itself. Lastly, one thing I found really odd that was never explained was when Atem duels Raphael the second time. After Eotas is destroyed. The seal starts on Raphelas forehead turns red and the seal on the field starts sending out shockwaves of some kind.
I assume anime version has at least destruction protection. However you can still out it. Like to me it makes sense you can giant trunade it away. Also if you summon Trish you can banish it or use cosmic cyclone since it’s not immune to targeting.
there is a thing "it can't be destroyed" but playing another field would remove it. Could play sole judgment to negate it first. Grand trade than card destruction.
Hmph. Nothing to be unexpected when it comes to 1 of Satan's creations, still ironic that the Leviathan would share the same fate as its creator, but by the very power it used to control and devour people.
My person headcannon, even though it probably doesn't make sense, is that the Orichalcos are condensed fragments of the Light of Destruction. No reason really, I just think it's a cools idea
I'd argue the seemingly REAL ACTUAL world-threatening monster from which the powers of the seal originate might have given it full protection while the creature lived, perhaps only able to be bypassed by having a legitimate supernatural force of your own to counter the Leviathan, or the Leviathan hypothetically choosing to drop that protection if it ever were to decide its wielder should no longer have it's aid.
"If you lose the duel, you lose your soul" will forever be one of the most iconic things about Yu-Gi-Oh
Yugi if you lose the fuel you lose your soul
Zeus Alternative!!! If you lose the duel, you lose your SOUL!!!
Just like "iF yOu diE iN thE gAmE yoU diE iN rEAl liFe"
Shut up tristan
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series certainly loves to remind everyone what happens when the Seal of Orichalcos is activated. 😅
Waking the Dragons, despite being "filler", is a great arc. Yami legitimately losing scarred me as a child lol.
Yeah, I was on 6th grade, about 12.....and I was in utter disbelief when I saw yugi lose his soul in place for Yami.
@@milehighgambler I was like 3rd grade
I still have the tshirts from when I was a kid
(They're all boxed up, tho)
@@leecrawford6560 Awesome!!!! Ima have to get your ebay name if you ever decide to sell them
It actually fits really well with GX's lore. GX establishes that there are 12 different universes so the world where the Orichalcos comes from and the Legendary Dragons were sealed could just be from one of those universes.
@WiiManElite it's a filler lol
I think the protection effect of the seal is that it can’t be destroyed, but it can be banished.
Since the real world legendary knights’ effects are: when they are summoned they can banish 1 spell or trap on the field. This would make sense since in the anime when all 3 are summoned they each removed one layer of the seal that Dartz played.
So basically a cosmic cyclone can out it?
@@Blazecap probably yeah, that would make sense
If that's the case then would that mean that the latter levels of the seal have the additional effect of activating the previous layer from the GY if they leave the field, otherwise only one Knight would be needed but it took all 3
@@elemomnialpha Well I know tgs anime said that the 2nd and 3rd seals were also field spells that replace the previous seal but we never actually see Dartz activate them in the field spell zone, so I always thought that they were spells in the main spell and trap card zone that boosted the field spell. But if they do replace the previous field spell maybe only 1 knight would be needed.
Dartz lost to Imperial Order. Then he invented Mystic Mine. XD
I gotta admit, the TCG version of The Seal of Orichalcos is pretty accurate and works really well in the realm of the show:
1) Monsters you control gain 500 ATK. 7:19
2) Once per turn can't be destroyed by card effects. 4:36
3) Your strong monsters protect your weakest monsters from being attacked. 7:21
4) Destroys all of your special summoned monsters when activated. 8:27
5) Prevents you from summoning from the Extra Deck. 8:41
6) Can only be activated once per Duel.
7) The loser is humiliated to the point of feeling his soul being ripped apart. 9:53 XD
Seal of Oricalchos should be turned into Yu-Gi-Oh poker game where stakes are actual money in place of 'souls'
it's good with macro monarch !
What ever the ane of the card that pay 1000 to banish a card if the counter to the seal
Regarding The Seal of Orichalcos making monsters the Dark attribute, I think it's more likely that they become Dark in addition to their original attribute.
Wouldn't that just make shadow imprisoning mirror OP?
@@zacharyhawley1693 It would functionally become Skill Drain at that point.
Yeah, I was thinking the same, an Elemental Mistress Doriado-style effect
@@Blah3210 Yep, without paying lifepoints and not effecting your monsters. You've essentially locked them down.
it could also mean "dark" in the sense of "evil". Kuribabylon was already DARK, but became "dark" on top of that.
As the name seems to lead to, I think the stone is actually orichalcum. In most rpgs I’ve played that involve orichalcum in some capacity, the ore is apparently one of the most durable if not unbreakable materials to exist in fiction next to mythril and adamantite. If the worshippers of the Orichalcos used the ore as the base for creating the seal cards, then it sort of makes sense why they both can’t be penetrated from either inside or outside or why you need another shard of the stone to destroy the seal.
It is, and orichalcum actually refer to mythical stone of Atlantis. And this card backstory is about the fall of Atlantis
@@arifsalahudin6673 I figured, but I never really watched too many episodes of the orichalcos arc, except maybe some of the major duels. I remember that one episode where Atem had to duel either an illusion of or an Orichalcos possessed Yugi to try regaining the trust of Timaeus and it showed that he met the former king of Atlantis and Dartz’s sister.
@@spenserfarman3045 me neither, I saw similar video couple days ago lol.
@@arifsalahudin6673 actually, fun fact: in the original Atlantis story, orichalcum was actually a metal, not a stone. And there was nothing overtly magical about it, it was just slightly better than the metals other people were using
Jim Cook had an artificial eye made of orichalcum in GX, so that's definitely a real material within the setting.
9:40 Hermos doesn't fuse with spells. It fuses with monsters to create Equip Spells. So yeah, his Rocket Hermos Cannon would just turn back into Rocket Warrior.
@@BKBK-yo1zz false. Hermos fuses with monsters too. Hermos + Rocket Warrior = Rocket Hermos Cannon. Hermos + Red-Eyes = Red-Eyes Black Dragon Sword. Hermos + Queen's Knight = Goddess Bow.
Timaeus fuses with monsters to be a monster,
Critias fuses with spells/traps to be a monster,
Hermos fuses with monsters to be an equip spell.
I still get chills when I hear _the Seal of Orichalcos theme._ It didn't need to go so hard
I think, giving the statement of the Konami employe, in the show, the seal could only be broken by using another field spell. So, Bakura would be a great help in that season with his Dark Sanctuary strat.
And it would be useless in GX.
Considering TCG orichalcos is very nerfed in almost all effects, I really wouldnt believe the protection is that weak.
I can't take his comments on the card seriously. If that guy was in charge of creating the card in the actual card game then of course he needs to nerf it in order to balance it. The fact that we ended up getting what we got is clear indication of that.
In the anime everything needed to be busted for plot's sake to create conflict and/or tension. Dartz alone had, if not the most busted, one of the most busted cards/decks we've seen. And of course he did, we just had an entire season of watching Egyptian Gods and shadow games; what could even top that? Kinda the same problem that Dragon Ball runs into; where you need a new villain that was hidden from all up to that point and, of course, a new transformation to top what you did the season before.
That one where it negates Yugi's Puzzle abilities might explain how, despite drawing 5 cards, Yugi wasn't able to make a comeback against Raphael in their first duel. Normally he just needs 1 amazing draw, but he got nothing with 5?
That just means that Yugi’s BS doesn’t come from the Puzzle.
Even before the Puzzle, Yugi was portrayed as being an expert at games.
@Mister Perfection ehh the Puzzle destiny part was just fan speculation anyways
@@pn2294 actually the puzzles ability is luck the more desperate atem gets the better his draws get
"fulfil one single wish of the person who had solved it and heighten its owner's chance of success in a game, judging by their skill-level as well as the importance of the game at hand."
@@pn2294
No that was it's power. This much is revealed during the Ceremonial Duel. In dire situations, it Grants the user a chance to change Fate. In the case of a card game, this means a lucky draw if the out exists within the deck.
Later Series would grant this as a passive ability to all of their protagonists as it made writing the duels easier. And in universe reasons were usually given each time.
That was Atem’s power by himself. Not the Puzzle since he wasn’t wearing it in the final duel.
I think the refrence of the monsters turning dark or evil was foreshadowing. The seal indiscriminately corrupts all by finding whatever evil is withing the person and amplifying it. This was key in all of the lackies becoming servents of the Orichalcos. Rex and Weevil were targeted for their direvt jealously over Joey and Yugi. Mia was also going through similar struggles since yugi and Co's show of friendship had her doubt her old live philosophy and independent strength. We also learn that all of Dartz henchmen from the start were secretly groomed to have negativity and be susceptible (even if these were a stretch and really dumb once shown.) We finally learn the TRUE villain was not Dartz but the parasitic Liavathan that corrupted the Atlanteans over time into monsters (both figuratively and literally..again dumb but ok..) to claim their souls for itself. It corrupted Dartz I to the maniac he was to use him as a dark puppet and spread the corruption further. This is a mirror of Zorcs tactics from millenium world as this was a filler arc character rinspired by elements form the main manga story. Again, it seems just a way to foreshadow to the main crew that none if the characters they will be fighting in the arc are actually evil but just influenced by the seal and ANYONE can be. This especially pays off when Yami is affected by the seals influence himself and his darkness becoming more heightened is what leads to the loss of Yugi's spirit. He has to soul search to figure out if he really was as evil as he was being claimed to be. The truth is that his agressive actions were the result of the seal since anyone with any small amount of darkness at all can be targeted; and he was being manipulated to think it was just his true nature surfacing.
Yeah when you think about it Waking of the Dragons/Doma Arc is figurative and literal build up to what we'll see in Millennium World basically preparing us for what's to come
The Millunium puzzle's power is the ability to change destiny.
When Yugi Moto finishes the puzzle he wishes to be able to form bonds. And through his great journey to save the world, he gets exactly what he wants.
Being able to change destiny also explains how Atem is able to draw whatever he wants.
Nope, getting friends was something Yugi did on his own.
@@pn2294 He literally didn't have any friends until he solved the puzzle. His current friends were literally bullying and beating him up every other day. So nah fam, boy is useless on his own.
And controlling what he draws is just dark magic.
He believe he could do that without the puzzle as well.
In the manga, yugi wishes for friends while completing the puzzle. Yes, he did everything on his own, but that was still his wish.
I really like the idea of the seal having a lingering grasp on a soul that isn’t tainted.
Like someone loses, their soul isn’t taken because at the time they showed good faith or w/e but for the rest of the arc the opponents are attempting to egg them on to get the seal to take them so they win by default. Could have led to some interesting interactions.
7:27 there is a weird logic about this rule which was shown in Joey's duel with Valon, according to Valon if an Armor monster is targeted for an attack he can switch the target to another Armor monster he wants, we didn't know which Armor monster was in the Main Monster Zone & in the Spell/Trap Zone since Valon was wearing the Armor monsters in his body.
That's kinda true; I guess that one armor monster with the redirection ability overwrites the seal's restriction.
Even though it is never fully shown I always assumed that the seal could not be destroyed by any effect. After all it's not like the big bad card of the season was ever going to be got rid of by a random monster effect or a mystical space typhoon.
Yami does try to Dust Tornado the Seal in his first duel with Gerumo.
So it surpassed even that of Gods of Asgard, or Greek, mystic powers of Dr. Strange, ghost rider, sailor Moon's silver crystal/sailor guardians power and the Cosoms of the saints, jack's sword which have the power to destroy the evil force , power of the iron fist all combined are negated
You know what Yugi never tried? Vinegar and elbow grease. Guarantee it'll rub that seal right off. Isopropyl alcohol will also work in a pinch.
Note the spell can be returned to the hand or banished. Darz uses it in modern yugioh- Darz- Now I use- Me- Chain cosmic cyclone. Darz- Wait what?…WHAT KIND YOU D BULL(honk) MAGICAL POWERS COULD POSSIBLY OUT BULL(honk) THE BULL(honk) MAGICAL POWERS THAT I BRING TO YOU THE ORICACMALOS!? Me- It’s way too easy to find a loophole around its destruction immunity. Now Ultimate conductor attacks for game. Darz- …Crap…
@@TheSandwhichman108 in the actual card game, yes. In one of the first games I played after buying the Yugi's World set back in the day, I had someone bounce my Seal. It was one of the most frustrating things I've ever experienced in any TCG, maybe taking second place to getting my lands blown up in Magic.
I wonder if we'll ever get the great leviathan as a card someday. Always found surprising that it wasn't a card in the anime and wasn't darts final boss monster.
Honestly, I thought the divine serpent geh was it before I saw the real one.
There is Divine Serpent Geh, although retaining it into the Orichalcos archetype could make it closer to its anime counterpart
It kinda helps the Leviathan that it ISN'T a card. It cannot be controlled, like Zorc's true form. It gives it the feeling that it is THAT beyond us, and doesn't submit to mere duelist mortals. Don't like the season at all, but that is a nice touch.
@@RiukuCresent
I think zorc has a card. its atk is like 666 or 1000 in the dub.
I think.
That’s Monster World Zorc.
Don’t forget that it magically teleports it’s self to the top of the users deck at the start of the game
Yeah exactly. It immediately top decks itself
Probably a small thing worth noting; the original Japanese name for the card is "The Barrier of Orichalcos" (Orikarukosu no kekkai) makes the fact that there is a physical barrier more obvious.
According to Raphael, the Seal doesn't even need to be played in order to take a soul, which is why Yami was so afraid of losing. Though that could've been a lie in order to tempt Yami into playing the seal himself.
Well, even after the legendary knights destroy the seal, the seal appears again when Atem's LP hit 0.
@@emreekinci4258 Yes, that’s a weird one. But that’s probably because of Dartz’s insane power. He is the master of the Orichalcos, so it wouldn’t be inaccurate to say that he could literally “will” the Sacred Seal into appearing.
If you recall, he did the same thing with the Orichalcos Soldiers, he was simply able to manifest it. I think this is particularly awesome because it shows that the Seal is much more than just a card.
The Seal Of Orichalcos a stone of power that is an evil power. I was amazed at its power. This stone has been around for 10,000 Years ago. The Pharaoh was around for 5,000 years. "Oh and the loser of the duel loses their soul." This card is really unique.
And it is revealed that the Millennium Items are more powerful than the Seal.
Oh well, I guess the old saying is true.
The younger, the more powerful.
@@alster724 actually that is somewhat incorrect. The millennium items(namely the millennium puzzle can push back the seal but not deny it completely, we saw that when atem lost, yugi used the puzzle to repel the seal long enough to switch places. Also the Seal's power is great enough to bind the gods even to normal duelist, though it still takes a toll on the person. Leviathan itlself is more powerful than Zorc so you could kinda us that as an argument for the seal being more powerful. The difference is more like, the seal gives fewer abilities compared to the items, but the items can't really defeat the seal.
@@borisangelov8348 nah zork is the creator of darkness zork is more powerful full than the leviathan
The leviathab lost against the gods but zork defeated the gods until they fused to makes the creator of light
@@blendy-_-1138 the leviathan was weakened by losing the darkness of souls that were his prisoners and boosting the gods this way, so it was amped gods beating a weekend leviathan, also zorc was on par with the gods ultimately winning after cutting them of the sunlight.
@@borisangelov8348 The seal is stronger than the millenium items but leviathan is not stronger than zork.
Maybe the Seal does turn monsters into Dark. Cards can be multiple attributes at once if it's through card effects.
Clear world would have a field day against this...
No, when they say “Dark”, they mean evil.
That’s different from DARK attribute.
I don't think the Seal has blanket immunity for one reason: Fiber Jar. In his duel against Mai, Joey Wheeler tried to use the effect of Fiber Jar to reset the field. Mai also had 5-6 Harpie Lady cards out. She seemed to be visibly threatened by Fiber Jar's activation and the reactions from others who were watching seemed to indicate such an effect would work. Ofc Mai used Harpie's Featherstorm to Negate Fiber Jar, so idk. Also, Joey went the entire duel without drawing Giant Trunade (Heart of the Cards pshhhhh, ya right!) so, we'll never know if bouncing all Spells/Traps could have worked.
Even if it wouldn't do anything to the seal, it would mean a HUGE lose in tempo. Lose all 6 of her harpies, and letting Joey get a fresh new hand when he was struggling to keep up. So of course she would negate it. It doesn't prove or disprove Fiber Jar's ability to affect the seal.
The Seal would be untouched by Fiber Jar, that’s pretty straightforward. As already stated by the gentleman above me, What it would do is severely cripple Mai, and that’s something she couldn’t allow, hence, why she negated it. Her 6 monster-board would be wiped, and she knew she could lose quite quickly after that…
I'd like to add that the Stone of Orichalcos as a "get out of jail for free card" has a one-way application, literally. The Seal of Orichalcos is like a safe, and as such can only be opened from the outside. Therefore, the Stone of Orichalcos can only break the seal if it's slammed into the seal from the outside.
It is unclear whether or not Gurimo had a Stone of Orichalcos, but as a member of Doma it is safe to say he did. Also, as you all remember he did cower out at the end of his duel with Atem, so if he had the stone, he surely would've used it to escape the seal, except he couldn't, because the stone can't break the seal from within.
Furthermore, the Seal of Orichalcos "cannot be destroyed by card effects". That is why the Legendary Knights could get rid of it by "banishing" it. Back in the day "banishing" wasn't really a thing so that's why the Legendary Knights being able to "destroy" the seal was so confusing.
I'd question the claim that the Seal negates all other magic. Yugi uses the puzzle successfully when Atem loses to Raphael, and Atem blatantly uses it against Dartz. I'm guessing it suppresses other magic, but is not absolute. Much like the first mook's claim about the Seal being indestructible, I'd take that claim with a grain of salt.
Do you mean when he summons Yami and they communicate? I feel like that would happen regardless of a seal because their soul are co-existing?
Who has a feeling that Rank-Up-Magic Barian’s Force from Zexal was inspired by this card? Think about it, a card used by the lead villains and pawns of the season, related to their origin and grants them great power as well as the symbol on their forehead. This is particularly important as Shin Yoshida wrote DM Season 4 and was the showrunner of Zexal.
Dark Synchros and Earthbound Gods acted in a similar manner.
Hilariously, Normal Fusion acted as this for ARC-V.
Zexal has lots of similar concepts with DM, so it only makes sense. Not to mention Don Thousand vs Yuma and Nash was pretty much Dartz vs Yugi and Kaiba.
@@pn2294 White Veil in GX might count too
I think a lot of the anime after the original take inspiration from this arc since GX, 5ds, and Zexal all had plot points relating to the darkness within people.
@@brandonc5061 It's mostly because they're written by the same person and he loves to recycle their ideas.
1) I think it doesn't stop the powers of the millennium items just the protection they provide. It's important to note that it seemed like Yami was trying to break the seal/start a shadow game when the puzzle was crapped out.
2) I think it might actually be as easy as "can't be targeted by opponents destruction effects. Unless specifically named"
You forgot when yugi used the puzzle to unlock the seal to save atem by pushing him out of the way and having his soul sealed instead.
Something else to consider: if the Legendary Dragons refuse to work in conjunction with it, rendering them in the same deck incompatible, or if they can command the Egyptian Gods but it's a great strain...how much further does this go? Is it easier or harder to use an Earthbound God with them? Is it more compatible with Numbers, or with CXyz? What would happen to a LIGHT being like the Wave of Destruction (in Saiou or the D, presumably) if they were to use it? What impact, if any would it have on Zorc? on Z-ONE? on Z-ARC? on any of the various A.I. or extraterrestrial beings we've seen over the years? Heck, we've seen an ape and a pigeon duel; what would it do to them?
Ok, this Is so interesting to hear about, but I have two theories also doubling as questions:
1: If the Seal can be broken with a fragment of the Orichalcos, can the cards used to activate the Seal, which are using the Orichalcos pieces, also be used as metaphorical "Keys", so to speak?
2: the writing on the card text border intrigues me: "If thou wishes to seek our power, a great power dwells within thyself. It shall dwell within." This gives me the notion that for someone who wants power, the power/potential already exists deep inside the person, it just needs to be unlocked, my theory is that the Orichalcos God/Great Leviathan, doesn't just give you It's power to crush your enemies, it gives you a fragment of It's power to unlock your latent potential/power that is inside you, and the Seal could be a type of key for to unlock it, but the price of this unlocking is a human soul.
It's actually similar to how people back in the old days of Yu-Gi-Oh used to use their own spirit energy: Ba, to materialize their monsters: Ka, and also make them stronger.
I don't expect you to read this, but tell me what you think about this.
The seal likely couldn’t be removed unless displaced by another field spell. I don’t know how the meta worked back then but I do know field spells weren’t very common in actually most of the anime hero or villains. I think the only protagonist that regularly uses field spells (speed world and arc v world cards don’t count) is Judai running Skyscraper and Fusion Zone.
I find it funny whenever people try to use real life rules to explain magic.
@@pn2294 I mean, the whole point of Yu-Gi-Oh is that the cards are magical, but they follow set rules. For example, during Battle City, Fusion monsters couldn't attack the turn they were summoned. The cards are magical, sure, but they still had to follow that rule.
Effectively, we're trying to break down what the fictional rules were for the Seal of Orichalcos, disregarding the magical aspects and instead determining why specific effects work and why others don't (aka Theory-Crafting), since the physical card still had to follow the game's rules.
I’ve loved this arc ever since I saw it on Kids WB when I was 6. The music REALLY stands out in this season.
The Seal arch/storyline was I one the most wildest/weirdest archs/storylines in the Yu-Gi-Oh anime.
Yami Yugi: there’s only one card in my hand that can help me right now and free my dragon
Yugi: pharaoh no
Yami Yugi: we’re going to lose the duel
Yugi: listen to me, this card is affecting your mind
Yami Yugi: but we’re going to lose the duel. We must do this now let me go
Yugi: please don’t play that card
Yami Yugi: now I activate the seal of oricalchos! (What have I done) NOOOO!
Yugi: ahhh!
All monsters you control gain 500 ATK. This card cannot be destroyed or negated by card effects. Your Spell & Trap Card Zones are also treated as Monster Card Zones. Monsters in your Spell & Trap Card Zones cannot be selected as attack targets unless your original Monster Card Zones are unused. During your Main Phase, you can move monsters from your original Monster Card Zones to your unused Spell & Trap Card Zones, and vice-versa. When this card is activated, destroy all cards you control that list "The Eye of Timaeus", "The Claw of Hermos", or "The Fang of Critias" in their texts, and return any other cards listed in their card texts to the field.
4:31 - Technically it's still possible. Balrog gets summoned, Balrog is Fire Attribute, Seal activates chain to summon, Balrog's effect activates, chain to seal. Balrog gains attack points, turn into a Dark Attribute, chain resumes.
I wish they added the rest of the cards cause I would love to make the deck in Duel links
First add Dartz to Duel Links and then we can talk about his cards.
3:00 what about when Yugi was facing Rafael for the first time Yugi was pushed out so he could not interact with Atem, as the seal was stopping him.
Yugi used the Power of the Millennium puzzle to break the seal of Orichalcos he then pushed Atem out of the way before his soul was taken.
I think a OPT (once per turn) type protection makes the most sense given how few easy to use means of destroying spells and traps existed at the time. In addition, you could also count on one hand how many people actually played field spells outside of this arc in the DM series. They are Mako with Umi and Leon with the Golden Castle of Stromburg! Plus with how much those who used it hyped it up, they have to be compensating for something other than the soul losing part of it!
I think the Legendary Dragons used their power to reinstate Atem’s “Destiny Draw” ability. Since it doesn’t happen with Joey and Kaiba I’d say it is more likely the dragon’s counteracted the power of the Orichalcos rather than having their own version of “Destiny Draw”.
I'd think the protection effect on the seal in the anime was this card cannot be destroyed by card effects. Now when it comes to legend of heart it was able to negate all of the seals effects then destroy it.
It’s more because LoH’s magic was created specifically to counter it.
@@pn2294 Yes, exactly. It’s a hierarchy issue (similar to how it works with the Egyptian Gods). Anything besides the Atlantean Knight’s magic is useless against the Sacred Seal.
Tristan: "JOEY! Don't forget if you lose the duel you lose your sOooUlll"
The Seal has 2 weaknesses.
1.) The Millennium Puzzle (post-Duel)
2.) Legend of Heart (can be destroyed in a Duel)
4:12
Perhaps the seal of Oreichalcos doesn’t change the original attribute of the monster to dark, it actually ADDS the dark attribute in addition to the attribute the monsters already posses.
Taking for example that fire monster you mentioned, it conserves its original attribute but thanks to the seal it can also be treated as a dark type.
Dual attribute monsters are not a rare thing in Duel Monsters, so this could be a valid argument.
Incorrect: it has nothing to do with attributes.
It just makes the monster evil.
If it had to do with attributes they would’ve said Yamizokusei.
Hey Sam, I hope you read this comment. So, about the first of the Orichalcos evolutions. It is pronounced "thėfteros", with the "the" syllable being thick like in the word "thus". It's from the greek word δεύτερος, which means second. The next evolution is called tritos (in greek τρίτος), pronounced treetos and not traeetos, which means third. Hence them being the second and third forms!
Also, fun fact: Hermos, Timaeus and Critias are the protagonists in one of Plato's hypothetical dialogues trilogy. As a greek I was really surprised that this arc of yugioh had these references!
That is all, just wanted to let you know how to pronounce them correctly for the future :)
I could only imagine everyone's reactions if Jaden went up against the Seal and his Skyscraper field spell destroyed it
The seal of Orichalcos also has another hidden effect. "Whoever uses this card will lose the duel." The only time that someone other than the person who played the seal lost was in the three way duel against Dartz (Mr. Screw the rules). But even in that duel Dartz the user ultimately lost.
Also, Mai vs. Pegasus (off screen) and Mai vs. Joey round 2, Mai used the Seal and won both duels.
@@Warrior_of_Fire I think Joey had Hermos in his hand. He intentionally held back, so he technically could have won if he chose to.
As for the level of protection that the Seal had to prevent destruction, it likely would be immune to opponent's destruction effects and couldn't be targeted, but could be bounced or banished by non-targetting effects possibly. This means that you could play another field spell to remove it from your own side of the field, but to remove it from the opponent's side of the field, you'd need something like Giant Trunade or some such. Or playing your own field spell since that wasn't a destruction effect, per say (although that wouldn't work anymore after they made each player's field spell zone able to be used simultaneously).
You forgot that the seal could also be broken (at least partially) by at least the MIllennium Puzzle, as Yugi did when he substuted his soul for The Pharaoh's.
Yugi more like pushed the seal, rather than break it as the soul stealing effect didn't change, oy the target switched places. But you are correct.
@@borisangelov8348 his exact words were that he was using all the power of the millennium puzzle to break the seal, and the barrier did crack and break, allowing him in.
@@johnryanjosey6368 yeah I agree.
7:02 it's probably can't be destroyed by spell/traps and can be only replaced by a higher tier of a field spell card. That being said. Monster effects are fair play.
9:48 Now that you mention that Kaiba could very well have had his own Majin Vegeta moment against Yugi if he had been under the influence of the Orichalcos, but I guess they already did that sort of thing with Weevil and Rex.
I think this was a great story arc.
My second favorite after battle city.
That Konami interview about being able to remove the Seal is such BS; it was a transparent attempt to justify the gimped version of the card that they created for the OCG/TCG. It's absurd to think that activating Umi could have invalidated the whole arc and that the anime characters were just lying while explaining the Seal's abilities.
"It may be able to steal souls and negate the powers of the Millennium Items, but two Dust Tornadoes would have been too much for it to withstand! Oh, and it loses to Mako Tsunami." STFU
I loved the old school dialup inet sound at the end (11:50)
I have to say that the Seal can't be destroyed, I would include via game mechanics which would mean that at the time it would either be the only way to get 2 field spells or it would pop the other field spell.
Most likely you could just say that it can't be destroyed by card effects and that neither player can activate Field spells, except "Oricalchos" spells, since otherwise you could just throw your own field spell on top of the Seal which is definitely against the concept that it's going for and you would THINK that if that was possible that everyone in Doma would run a field spell as a potential escape button in addition to the ring. If it couldn't be targeted then Dust Tornado wouldn't have been able to be activated. The Deuteros/Tritos effects would presumably be tributing or sending the Seal to the GY instead of destroying it via game mechanics since they need to be placed in sequence instead of being able to just pop Deuteros onto the field without putting the Seal first.
The statement by McHale certainly doesn't read like something that is written by someone who is actually privy to anime information trying to give accurate effect text and more is him talking about translating the effect to the card game. He's specifically talking about the ruling issues putting monsters in your back row cause (inb4 Valiants) and thus why they didn't give the TCG Seal that effect. Unless McHale actually spoke with the anime writers for the episodes (most likely Yoshida, although he clearly doesn't talk with people involved with the TCG...) then his claim on the anime card's effect is honestly LESS valid than the character he claims is "just lying."
To be honest during season 4 I think it would have been cool to see Atem’s soul be taken and Yugi has to go through the whole season trying to rescue the pharaoh which also shows he is also good at card games and its not just Atem and the puzzle
I always imagined the seal to be a spell speed 4 field spell, but since atem chained dust tornado to it that can't be the case. Which then also means the seal could be negated with a higher speed effect
It’s magic.
The Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki makes no mention of monsters become DARK attribute. It does seem they become corrupted. This would make sense for the legendary dragons to leave the field, as they then avoid the seal's corruption.
As far as the Seal of Orichalcos destruction question, I would say the effect would read something like "cannot be destroyed except by "Orichalcos" or "Legendary Knight" cards", since those are the only things we see able to destroy it. Like normal destruction cards won't destroy it, it has to specifically be another Orichalcos card or the Legendary Dragons/Knights, that's what I think Gurimo meant by "you can't destroy it like that" or whatever he said in response to Dust Tornado.
The waking the dragons arc was and is still very underrated. 20 years later and it still doesn’t get the praise it deserves in my opinion
I think the seal had something like a Divine hierarchy like the Egyptian and wicked gods did. Making it unaffected by everything except by a card with a hierarchy that equals or beats it. I assume the base form has the lowest and the upgraded forms raise the hierarchy. The only cards to match the hierarchy of the final upgrade are the legendary knights.
I don’t see how ppl can even Think this arc was “filler”. If they made it . It clearly exists.
You kinda semi-missed one thing: It's heavily implied that the Seal of Orichalcos betrays its user by boosting several character traits that increase the likelihood of misplays, such as arrogance for example.
It would seem that the Seal of Orichalcos can't be _destroyed_ by card effects, but I wonder if it could be removed from the field otherwise? Say, sent directly to the Graveyard with no destruction (like Chaos Emperor Dragon or Gandora), or returned to the hand (like Giant Trunade).
the way that this was beat in duel links was that. The seal of orichalchos can only be played once per duel. I just found a way to return it back it to person's hand. They could not use it again due to the once per duel effect.
"You're finished! You can't stop my Seal Of Orichalcos!"
This is before both players get a field spell, right?"
"... Don't"
"I set Mystic Plasma Zone"
Its still my head cannon that the seal was meant for a hero who was pure of heart that wouldnt be corrupted by its power.
That's amazing that I heard the Dial Up sound effect at the end of the video
Oh man, haven't heard that in a long time
The Seal on the field is tight to the Stone too. As long as the power source is still on, the Seal remains indestructible and cannot be replaced by other field cards unless a counter power on the field
Also I just love the fact that you did a whole video speculating on the true effects of a card that was created for a non Canon filler arc of an anime based on a children's card game that was in turn based on a manga about a children's card game that was itself based on a supernatural horror manga themed around various different games with deadly consequences
If the Seal negates the powers of the Millennium Items then technically shouldn't it also keep Atem from taking over Yugis' body?
Whenever I hear the "Great Leviathan" in this arc, I always think of the _Dreadnought Leviathan_ airship from FFXII, where you get to take out Judge Ghis on your first arrival and Vossler onboard the _Shiva_ after the events of the Tomb of the Wraithking. 🤣
2:51 All Of those theories could work, Atem did put way more effort into that destiny draw than he normally does. In fact that could be your next video, top 10 most epic destiny draws. I will definitely put that one as my number one pick. Please do it, if you reply to this comment and tell me that you’ll do it if I become a Patreon member first then I’ll do it.
03:34 mabye he meant his monsters is now dark and the monster’s attribute(s). So dark earth, dark earth fire, ect.
This is a good topic in the Yu-Gi-Oh series.
Although the Orichalcos existed way before the Millennium Items, it is revealed that the Millennium Puzzle is way more powerful than the Seal of Orichalcos as it is revealed at the end of the first Atem/Yami Yugi-Rafael due to the fact that the Puzzle can break the Seal causing Yugi to interfere the Seal's power and sacrifice himself to save the Pharaoh.
Technicaly the puzzle only pushed the seal back long enough for the two to switch, also the seal was able to keep yugi and the puzzles power negated for a long time so you could argue the two powers to be on similar level, and take into consideration that was oy 1 out of the 3 levels of the seal.
Mokuba "So the Orichalcos can steal souls, make monsters turn real and create illusions of hundreds of people?"
Kaiba "Welcome to season 4"
Just imagine that the only thing that Yugi & Co needed to do in order to deal with the seal was just setting a random field spell 😂😅
The seal can probably only be replaced by another field spell, but not destroyed by spells/monster effects
The Seal of Orichalcos has nothing on DA SEAL OF DA ORICHAKAMALOS
Orichalco was a material described in Plato's narrative about the atlantis and is a mysthical material, similar to copper (plato describe it as mountain copper)
The Card Destruction effect was only tested once, and I believe I mentioned this in another video of yours, as if you did this a second time, it will happen. Same for the real life version.
Well, technically, Kaiba & Joey can be considered originally evil due to their actions. Kaiba, with....everything in episode 1. Joey, with the time that he and Tristan bullied Yugi.
I just realized how nutty the Seal of Orichalcos would be with links, since they'd now point to your Spell & Trap Monster Zones
@7:15 C++ : Is unaffected by other card effects that do not mention "The Seal Of Orichalcos" specifically
Gurimo lying about the effects of a card would actually make him the most cunning villian in YuGiOh
One thing also that I found kind of weird was the seal's soul-capturing ability. It could only steal one soul per duel. However, as we know you have to lose the duel to lose your soul. When Joey duels Mai the second time around. Joey doesn't lose the duel. Yes, Mai could have won and had the win there, but she did not attack. Joey's life points did not drop to zero. He collapsed due to the intense duel he had with Valon and was weakened going into the Mai duel. Overall, he didn't lose the duel yet his soul was still captured. So maybe the seal can capture your soul if you are weakened enough to see the duel out.
Similar to Alistar when he threatened Kaiba that he was going to stall until the plane crashed. He said that the seal would capture all 3 of us. I think the seal's soul-capture effect should have been explained better in the anime itself.
Lastly, one thing I found really odd that was never explained was when Atem duels Raphael the second time. After Eotas is destroyed. The seal starts on Raphelas forehead turns red and the seal on the field starts sending out shockwaves of some kind.
Joey: You gave me the seal of Orichalcos? Your in for a world of hurt now as I fuse my legendary dragon with the seal!
I like the seal being largely unaffected by other card effects, with the exception of the Legendary Knights and stuff like that.
You forgot to cover one thing. Yugi did use the millennium puzzle to break the seal to save Yami.
Timmy , you cant play that game, it takes your soul if you lose.
Timmy: but mommm, i have exodia
9:49, Joey combined a monster with the dragon to make a spell.
In response to orichalcos negating millennium item effects, i remember it was said that Atlantis was older than Egypt
I honestly want more orichalcos cards to be released with revised effects
I assume anime version has at least destruction protection. However you can still out it. Like to me it makes sense you can giant trunade it away. Also if you summon Trish you can banish it or use cosmic cyclone since it’s not immune to targeting.
The legendary dragons was liking man, being emotional and touchy. Say how could you betray me!
To be fair, he never said “it can’t be destroyed in any way” he said “it can’t be destroyed THAT WAY” which implies that there is a way.
there is a thing "it can't be destroyed" but playing another field would remove it. Could play sole judgment to negate it first. Grand trade than card destruction.
Hmph. Nothing to be unexpected when it comes to 1 of Satan's creations, still ironic that the Leviathan would share the same fate as its creator, but by the very power it used to control and devour people.
My person headcannon, even though it probably doesn't make sense, is that the Orichalcos are condensed fragments of the Light of Destruction. No reason really, I just think it's a cools idea
Let's keep it 💯. The Orichalcos is really Kryptonite. Also W Consistency.
Just imagine how much trouble the characters could have avoided had they just played a different damn field spell.
Consider the old rule of field spell that is probably a smart play
I'd argue the seemingly REAL ACTUAL world-threatening monster from which the powers of the seal originate might have given it full protection while the creature lived, perhaps only able to be bypassed by having a legitimate supernatural force of your own to counter the Leviathan, or the Leviathan hypothetically choosing to drop that protection if it ever were to decide its wielder should no longer have it's aid.