Yea the man in the box is the authority who was supposed to be frail and weak. In the books, once the box was opened he apparently made a shrill sound - either happy to be released or scare - and then disappeared into dust from old age or something to that extent. The show perhaps didn’t want too much controversy so they didn’t go too deep with having ‘God’ just die
You kindly directed me here from another site. Thank you. Sadly though I had already visited this pod and remain confused. Most likely because I didn't read the third book, as I wasn't enjoying the second. You explain so much. So well. Yet I still don't get it. As a believer in God who accepts all and no religion, and as a fiction writer working so hard on a related series of books (I trained only in Playwriting), my research just fuels my curiosity. Sorry, off topic. Firstly, I love your description of Dust. Even from an evolutionary perspective all life, must eventually become self aware to servive. All life dies. Where we go must itself either develop or already be conscious. I won't go deeper into this, but I MUST read the third book! Simple questions still arise from even your terrific analysis. You say they put the primordial angel in a crystal box. Who is/are "they" ? Why did the angel who declared himself God, or Metatron need to hide but protected/imprisoned the angel he came from? A much simpler question. I can't remember where Will and Lyra found the box. It was in a public, busy place I recall. Why was it there? Everyone seemed to be ignoring it! How did they detect life inside? Are angels alive in Pullman's world? Why was the angel so ancient? - aren't they timeless? Why was he so weak, thin and crazed, as though human? Why were Will and Lyra so eager to cut through to this 'life' ? They didn't stop to question it, despite their caution in every decision before? It was to me a weak and unnecessary bit of plot as there seemed to be no reason given. If you read this can you answer my confusion? Similarly I didn't understand how lord Asriel tortured the angel he captured? One final unrelated question. I didn't understand the Scrif, sorry - Mula ? (I'm dyslexic) - the cute roller skating purple elephants? They explained about Dust, but in their appearance and role, their inclusion in the story led me to assume that the story was written for children, so would appeal to them? Or is there a deeper meaning? I find my belief in God so strange. It is something written so deep in me I cannot lose my belief. Ever. This is why I have no religion but respect those who do. My God is personal and permanent. God owns me. Even if it were proven he was evil I still belong. I am late middle-aged but realize I have no free will regarding this. It is who I am. My free will is what I do. I'm no Saint! I needed to get that off my chest. So just told the world. My questions re HDM remain, but I may delete the baring of my soul sometime. Thanks for your insights. I'm probably way overthinking this as the whole story was everything I loved.
I felt like they didn't give as much screen time to that reveal as it needed. It was literally seconds and if you don't know the books or synopsis, you'd never know it was The Authority. Seemed shoehorned in just to tick a box without actually any meaning.
@Greg Bester. I agree 100%, having read the books and thoroughly enjoyed this TV series, I must say I felt very let down with episode 7. Everything felt rushed, no real explanation and for me, there was no real empathy in the way Mrs Coulter showed redemption. Like I said, I loved the books and think that this production has been brilliant and has pretty much stayed true. I just feel very let down with s3e7.
@@nathanolson3135 Even i understood that without reading first i was confused then few seconds later even i realised it was the Authority as it makes the most sense. I only didn't understand why he was there because i didn't read the books yet.
I so hoped for this scene to be included! And it's so overlooked. I even read an 'explanation' telling that it was Alarbus in the box. I mean: Alarbus approaches the box when Metatron appears and dictates him to kneel 'before the Authority'. Yet, Alarbus refers to Metatron as 'Regent', not 'Authority'. It's a bit more subtle in the show compared to the book, but the explanation is clearly there
I know the author is an atheist. But the feeling that the book gave me was that not even the angels themselves are aware of the existence of their creator. Unlike Christianity where they know where they came from and see God, not here. In the book, it is said that the Authority was not God, but someone pretending to be him, like Lucifer who wanted to be God. My theory is that God is even beyond them, is a mystery of the multiverse and Dust is his divine signature that connects all universes and souls. And the soul is deamons, and deamons are dust.
P. Pullman's an atheist?! I like your take on God. I wondered about if the dead could move between dimensions? It would be lovely for Will & Lyra to be reunited when they die.
Great video, didn't think many people would get the esoteric info from the show. New subscriber bc of this. My interpretation (just from the show, didn't read the book) - the man in the box is the creator or god figure, that was trapped/tricked into the box by the regent (enoch), who used the metatron box in which all things were created, to not only imprison the creator, but to harness the power of the creator. Once the box was opened, the creator was in a weakened state & chose to dissipate into the air & rejoin his creation in spirit form. Also very interesting they chose Enoch as the name of the regent. This short scene was a super interesting & a creative spin on such a big topic that explained so much of the story that i don't think many realized, so I'm glad that this channel brought it up for discussion.
The creator and the authority are the same beings but if i'm not mistaken in the show (didn't read the books yet) the angels hate calling him the creator or almighty or anything else as he too was an Angel just like them.
They had to make some tough decisions on some of the scenes because this was the last episode. Can' covered everything. Overall, I was happy with the whole season. And rewared HBO with my money for the last 4 years. Can' wait for "The Last of Us".
@@agnosticpanda6655 the book explicitly says that that character is God and is only being kept alive by Metatron to legitimise Metatron's power. So the main 2 characters of the trilogy let him go, let God out of the box, so that he can finally die like he desperately wanted to.
When Mary told them her personal story about how talking to the other woman and accepting the treat from her (much like the story of Eve) awakened feelings that she felt were worth exploring, it gave Lyra and Will the courage to explore and act on their feelings for eachother, thus awakening their hearts and discovering romantic love.
He always had one, it was established that everyone has a daemon, but they live inside most. When Will entered the land of the dead, his daemon was separated from him and she became visible
@@leticialek96 This would make sense but when they were at the land of the dead, when Will talked to his father (at the Land of the Dead), his father told him that he guided Will’s daemon to go to Asriels camp meaning Will’s daemon was already in physical form even before Will entered the Land of the dead, well at least that’s the logic that was shown in the series - could’ve been different from the book or a plot hole in the series that didn’t match up.
This was a huge failure in the series imo, passing over this in just a moment, even more so than it was in the book (but it's been a long time since my last read so I may have forgotten a lot there). That said, what I did notice very strongly (especially in the second half of the series) was that the original story was changed such a lot to shoehorn in some really occult stuff.
Lol the scene felt a bit superficial, but I don't think the book did it better. In fact, I read the book just before starting season 3 and in many aspects I prefer the series over the book in its execution, since it's less confusing and more straightforward (although in other aspects I do think the book did it better)
@@iamJamesPhelps Apart from the main plot points they changed a lot, too much to point out really. An easy one is they added a lot of Asriel/Mrs Coulter background stuff so the battle was much shorter/smaller, and a lot of people who were meant to be there weren't. A lot of it was for budget (as well as the battle, the Mulefa world was far too short for me, as was the end) but there were lots of small changes that weren't necessary. But overall because all the main plot points were there, as a fan I am just so happy that it got made :)
@@AndySola Oh what a shame! I guess that has something to do with Sony acquiring the production company from HBO/Sky just when series three finished filming (?)
And when you study law and finally understand this is ALL METAPHOR and hints that it is government as lord in this day, and a trust was set up at your birth and if you surrender the right to PROFIT (USUFRUCT), ALL DEBTS ARE PAID BY STATE..youre at the door to Heaven on earth
I feel like they had many opportunities to make Father Gomez a formidable enemy, and they didn't take any. Such a shame, this is one of the things that I disliked about the show (although I have to say that the way the book handled it wasn't much better for me)
Kinda didn't make sense when the angel killed him, because to me it seemed like father Gomez was convinced to not kill Lyra. At least that's the way he was acting. He straight up gave himself up to him.
@@PallahDaOracle I'll need to rewatch the episode but Gomez didn't seemed deterred to me. I read the situation as him being confused/bewildered that Balthamos was telling him things that were totally contradictory to what the Magisterium had drilled into his head his whole life, and so he started doubling down on proclaiming his devotion. In turn Balthamos recognized that Gomez was too fanatical to listen to reason and therefore too dangerous to be left alive.
@@korylinne2101 In the book, Balthamos was already dying when he approached Gomez. He lured him away with the knowledge that Gomez could easily overpower and destroy an Angel of his status, so he hoped to keep Gomez impressed/frightened. There was even a small brawl between the two after which Balthamos drowns Gomez. His overall motivation in the book was to make amends with especially Will after he left him earlier.
I guess the HBO series left out that the two "lesser" angels who help Lyra and Will are a gay couple? Philip Pullman even addresses this in an interview done shortly after The Amber Spyglass was published. Comments?
They were angels, not human. They assumed the form of men but can't be judged as people. The kiss was a sign of their profound love for eachother. It was acted so well. I didn't see homosexuality, but a sign of their union as spiritual brothers.
Whether the author would appreciate it or not, the author seems to establish a parallel undermining his own blasphemous themes: his couple cut into the box with the consequence that their impulsive curiosity killed the cat; while another famous couple cut an apple from a tree with the consequence that they got separated from the tree of life. #irony.
So if I understand this show correctly God is the evil person and the serpent is the good one and everything in the bible is flipped?? So we can say this is blasphemy?
It is one of the most blasphemous stories I have ever heard due to it not explaining the details of its mythos. Like who is the Creator of the worlds, the Dust, the angles etc. The gay angels wtf every show has to have gay as the norm in them. Like the ex-nuns forbidden love is her lesbian lust. It twist the Bible in so many ways. It never mentions Jesus Christ but shows a necklace of the cross with him on it. Lyra could use the aletheometer because of "Grace" but when she becomes an adult she has to do "works"
Is it fair to say this story is a referendum on religion? maybe the Catholic Church and it's strange/false power it holds over people and the wrongs it has brought upon humanity in the name of a god.
Yes, but trust me there'd be alot more wrong being done in a Godless society. This story does a good job at framing God as a controlling authority & if he weren't to exist people would be liberated. But ask yourself, liberated to do what? Kill? Engage in depravity? In the final episode mary speaks about innocence becoming experience, & how all forms of love are beautiful & there's basically no right or wrong. There are predators out there who love taking advantage of others... is that beautiful? I think there's good to be taken from this story but also alot of good to be taken from religion. Trust me if we weren't a Christian society most people would be killing & thieving from each other, because there's no one there to sent in judgement. Yes religion is meant to control you, but control you from your basest primal impulses (which is a good thing imo, that's what separates us from animals)
@@gavinclements482 That's just BS. I don't need a god to tell me what's right or wrong. We can decide that for ourselves. The bible is full of clearly gruesome stuff done in the name of god.
@@agnosticpanda6655 God telling you what's right & wrong in the Bible is men deciding morals as you said... I don't think God himself wrote the Bible. I think men wrote the Bible. So the Bible is literally men "deciding for themselves" what's right & wrong. It was used as a way to pacify some of the pagan religions. Before that humans were being sacrificed... to God's that don't exist. I'd rather live in a Christian nation than any other, that's my point. Not that God is real or not, but the idea of God has kept alot of people from acting out heinous shit
@@meisbackforever overall crime or crime rates according to population? Today's Christian nations are somewhat different than the past since not many people ACTUALLY believe in God anymore. In the past however, Christianity allowed nations to thrive. The Renaissance happened under Christianity. People can argue the damage Christianity has done as well & I don't deny some of that, but the arts & sciences boomed in Christian nations particularly
Does the authority really rule the multiverse with tiranny, like in the world is will I think they have much freedom in terms of their religious belief.
it's not THE God, not even A god, the book says this directly, it's the first angel who tricked everyone into thinking he was God, and no-one actually knows where God is, or even if He exists at all
The ending is so stupid, so lord asriel is the only one smart enough to use technology to get to other words? He created a machine that we see him use with his demon where he is able to open a portal to other worlds and travel through it and then close the portal. So Asriel is the only one smart enough to figure this out? Everyone else is just an idiot then and they are really only trapped there because they are stupid? I am so mad and hate this ending.
He was the only one who had studied with and experimented with the technology, because 1) he was one of the few people in the world with the status, the means and knowledge to do so, and 2) he was one of the few people who were curious enough about dust to not only question the church, but outwardly defy it. Kind of like Galileo and Sir Issac Newton. Not that hard to believe at all, I don't see what your problem is.
I interpreted the man in the box to be the actual Authority that Enoch had tricked into the box in the first place.
Ye my dumb ass that didn’t read the book thought the same 🤣.
You are right. It’s “God”/the Authority.
@@tofadeawayagain You are both wrong. There is no god. That's the whole jist of it. The authority pretended to be god.
Yea the man in the box is the authority who was supposed to be frail and weak. In the books, once the box was opened he apparently made a shrill sound - either happy to be released or scare - and then disappeared into dust from old age or something to that extent. The show perhaps didn’t want too much controversy so they didn’t go too deep with having ‘God’ just die
You kindly directed me here from another site. Thank you.
Sadly though I had already visited this pod and remain confused. Most likely because I didn't read the third book, as I wasn't enjoying the second.
You explain so much. So well. Yet I still don't get it. As a believer in God who accepts all and no religion, and as a fiction writer working so hard on a related series of books (I trained only in Playwriting), my research just fuels my curiosity. Sorry, off topic.
Firstly, I love your description of Dust. Even from an evolutionary perspective all life, must eventually become self aware to servive. All life dies. Where we go must itself either develop or already be conscious. I won't go deeper into this, but I MUST read the third book!
Simple questions still arise from even your terrific analysis.
You say they put the primordial angel in a crystal box.
Who is/are "they" ?
Why did the angel who declared himself God, or Metatron need to hide but protected/imprisoned the angel he came from?
A much simpler question. I can't remember where Will and Lyra found the box. It was in a public, busy place I recall. Why was it there? Everyone seemed to be ignoring it! How did they detect life inside? Are angels alive in Pullman's world? Why was the angel so ancient? - aren't they timeless? Why was he so weak, thin and crazed, as though human?
Why were Will and Lyra so eager to cut through to this 'life' ? They didn't stop to question it, despite their caution in every decision before?
It was to me a weak and unnecessary bit of plot as there seemed to be no reason given.
If you read this can you answer my confusion?
Similarly I didn't understand how lord Asriel tortured the angel he captured?
One final unrelated question. I didn't understand the Scrif, sorry - Mula ? (I'm dyslexic) - the cute roller skating purple elephants? They explained about Dust, but in their appearance and role, their inclusion in the story led me to assume that the story was written for children, so would appeal to them? Or is there a deeper meaning?
I find my belief in God so strange. It is something written so deep in me I cannot lose my belief. Ever. This is why I have no religion but respect those who do. My God is personal and permanent. God owns me. Even if it were proven he was evil I still belong. I am late middle-aged but realize I have no free will regarding this. It is who I am. My free will is what I do. I'm no Saint!
I needed to get that off my chest. So just told the world. My questions re HDM remain, but I may delete the baring of my soul sometime.
Thanks for your insights. I'm probably way overthinking this as the whole story was everything I loved.
I felt like they didn't give as much screen time to that reveal as it needed. It was literally seconds and if you don't know the books or synopsis, you'd never know it was The Authority. Seemed shoehorned in just to tick a box without actually any meaning.
Even without reading the story it was easy for me to guess that that’s Authority - it’s the only sensible guess in my opinion
@Greg Bester.
I agree 100%, having read the books and thoroughly enjoyed this TV series, I must say I felt very let down with episode 7. Everything felt rushed, no real explanation and for me, there was no real empathy in the way Mrs Coulter showed redemption.
Like I said, I loved the books and think that this production has been brilliant and has pretty much stayed true. I just feel very let down with s3e7.
@@thegimbeer no you didn’t, stop lying
@@nathanolson3135 Even i understood that without reading first i was confused then few seconds later even i realised it was the Authority as it makes the most sense. I only didn't understand why he was there because i didn't read the books yet.
I have a question. Is there any explanation in the books or series that explains how Xaphania discovered the Authority wasn't really God?
I so hoped for this scene to be included! And it's so overlooked. I even read an 'explanation' telling that it was Alarbus in the box.
I mean: Alarbus approaches the box when Metatron appears and dictates him to kneel 'before the Authority'. Yet, Alarbus refers to Metatron as 'Regent', not 'Authority'. It's a bit more subtle in the show compared to the book, but the explanation is clearly there
But he IS telling him to kneel before the Authority. The box containing the Authority is right there.
I know the author is an atheist. But the feeling that the book gave me was that not even the angels themselves are aware of the existence of their creator. Unlike Christianity where they know where they came from and see God, not here. In the book, it is said that the Authority was not God, but someone pretending to be him, like Lucifer who wanted to be God. My theory is that God is even beyond them, is a mystery of the multiverse and Dust is his divine signature that connects all universes and souls. And the soul is deamons, and deamons are dust.
P. Pullman's an atheist?!
I like your take on God. I wondered about if the dead could move between dimensions? It would be lovely for Will & Lyra to be reunited when they die.
Has anyone mentioned how excellent the musical anthology was for the HDM series?
It was phenomenal asf.
No definitely, it’s actually incredible
100%.
It's a shame that the full season soundtracks aren't available on CD.
I think it’s available on lodestone
Great video, didn't think many people would get the esoteric info from the show. New subscriber bc of this.
My interpretation (just from the show, didn't read the book) - the man in the box is the creator or god figure, that was trapped/tricked into the box by the regent (enoch), who used the metatron box in which all things were created, to not only imprison the creator, but to harness the power of the creator. Once the box was opened, the creator was in a weakened state & chose to dissipate into the air & rejoin his creation in spirit form. Also very interesting they chose Enoch as the name of the regent.
This short scene was a super interesting & a creative spin on such a big topic that explained so much of the story that i don't think many realized, so I'm glad that this channel brought it up for discussion.
The creator and the authority are the same beings but if i'm not mistaken in the show (didn't read the books yet) the angels hate calling him the creator or almighty or anything else as he too was an Angel just like them.
They had to make some tough decisions on some of the scenes because this was the last episode. Can' covered everything. Overall, I was happy with the whole season. And rewared HBO with my money for the last 4 years. Can' wait for "The Last of Us".
I can't wait for a day when a TV adaptation of Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky one of my favorite book so far
I'm much less of a fan after reading the third book in the series.
The first two are great though.
The Authority, the third book clearly explains it
No it's not. It's just implied, much like in the show.
The authority was the main angel before the one that Asriel kills?
@@Johnatan_Perez_Lopez No, that was Mettatron, the Authority's regant
@@agnosticpanda6655 No it's explict.
@@agnosticpanda6655 the book explicitly says that that character is God and is only being kept alive by Metatron to legitimise Metatron's power. So the main 2 characters of the trilogy let him go, let God out of the box, so that he can finally die like he desperately wanted to.
Would be dope if y’all could breakdown the “serpent” and Mary’s role. It’s a bit confusing
yes!!
I think her role was to help them realize their feelings for each other which causes the dust flow to slow. Just my opinion though
@@kenyotaylor166 Yes, absolutely! It's a bit vague in the TV series though.
When Mary told them her personal story about how talking to the other woman and accepting the treat from her (much like the story of Eve) awakened feelings that she felt were worth exploring, it gave Lyra and Will the courage to explore and act on their feelings for eachother, thus awakening their hearts and discovering romantic love.
How? She is the temptation who tempts lyra into loving Will more by telling that story
I was sorta disappointed. Expected him to say something before he just died.
there are 2 Enochs from the Bible/Cepher. FYI there is one that you spoke of and another from Cain's line.
You guys notice how the boxs reflection looks like a forest on fire? 😮 5:19
no
YES I DID NOTICE 😮
is balthamos the authority (in both the books and the show)?????
William Blakes ethos & ideas run throughout the books/series
Alice in Chains - that's what came to mind at first looking at the title 😀
great analysis
People who read the books : *yes we know*
yall probably figured it out by now but Man in the box is an Alice in Chains song 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣thank you for the deep dive😊😊😊😊😊
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How did Will get a demon all of a sudden
I missed that myself. Was wondering the same.
His daemon lived inside him. When he went to the land of the dead that part of him was left behind in physical form
He always had one, it was established that everyone has a daemon, but they live inside most. When Will entered the land of the dead, his daemon was separated from him and she became visible
It lived in him as his soul, when in separated from him on the boat it formed into a daemon
@@leticialek96 This would make sense but when they were at the land of the dead, when Will talked to his father (at the Land of the Dead), his father told him that he guided Will’s daemon to go to Asriels camp meaning Will’s daemon was already in physical form even before Will entered the Land of the dead, well at least that’s the logic that was shown in the series - could’ve been different from the book or a plot hole in the series that didn’t match up.
This was a huge failure in the series imo, passing over this in just a moment, even more so than it was in the book (but it's been a long time since my last read so I may have forgotten a lot there). That said, what I did notice very strongly (especially in the second half of the series) was that the original story was changed such a lot to shoehorn in some really occult stuff.
I didn’t read the books, what did they change?
Lol the scene felt a bit superficial, but I don't think the book did it better. In fact, I read the book just before starting season 3 and in many aspects I prefer the series over the book in its execution, since it's less confusing and more straightforward (although in other aspects I do think the book did it better)
@@iamJamesPhelps Apart from the main plot points they changed a lot, too much to point out really. An easy one is they added a lot of Asriel/Mrs Coulter background stuff so the battle was much shorter/smaller, and a lot of people who were meant to be there weren't. A lot of it was for budget (as well as the battle, the Mulefa world was far too short for me, as was the end) but there were lots of small changes that weren't necessary. But overall because all the main plot points were there, as a fan I am just so happy that it got made :)
@@kimchi_b The showrunner wanted two seasons to adapt the final book, but they only got one. That's why they had to cut out a lot of things.
@@AndySola Oh what a shame! I guess that has something to do with Sony acquiring the production company from HBO/Sky just when series three finished filming (?)
And when you study law and finally understand this is ALL METAPHOR and hints that it is government as lord in this day, and a trust was set up at your birth and if you surrender the right to PROFIT (USUFRUCT), ALL DEBTS ARE PAID BY STATE..youre at the door to Heaven on earth
Does anyone like or loved Father Gomez's ending I clearly didn't🥱🥱
That actor was not a good fit in S3, weakest link am glad he got offed the way he did.
I feel like they had many opportunities to make Father Gomez a formidable enemy, and they didn't take any. Such a shame, this is one of the things that I disliked about the show (although I have to say that the way the book handled it wasn't much better for me)
Kinda didn't make sense when the angel killed him, because to me it seemed like father Gomez was convinced to not kill Lyra. At least that's the way he was acting. He straight up gave himself up to him.
@@PallahDaOracle I'll need to rewatch the episode but Gomez didn't seemed deterred to me. I read the situation as him being confused/bewildered that Balthamos was telling him things that were totally contradictory to what the Magisterium had drilled into his head his whole life, and so he started doubling down on proclaiming his devotion. In turn Balthamos recognized that Gomez was too fanatical to listen to reason and therefore too dangerous to be left alive.
@@korylinne2101 In the book, Balthamos was already dying when he approached Gomez. He lured him away with the knowledge that Gomez could easily overpower and destroy an Angel of his status, so he hoped to keep Gomez impressed/frightened. There was even a small brawl between the two after which Balthamos drowns Gomez. His overall motivation in the book was to make amends with especially Will after he left him earlier.
I guess the HBO series left out that the two "lesser" angels who help Lyra and Will are a gay couple? Philip Pullman even addresses this in an interview done shortly after The Amber Spyglass was published. Comments?
They were angels, not human. They assumed the form of men but can't be judged as people. The kiss was a sign of their profound love for eachother. It was acted so well. I didn't see homosexuality, but a sign of their union as spiritual brothers.
And you cannot trick a bear!
It's the authority!
I was like if they do a Voldemort soul thing I’m gonna laugh so hard I was dead on haha I’ve read the books
Whether the author would appreciate it or not, the author seems to establish a parallel undermining his own blasphemous themes: his couple cut into the box with the consequence that their impulsive curiosity killed the cat; while another famous couple cut an apple from a tree with the consequence that they got separated from the tree of life. #irony.
Like the song
So if I understand this show correctly God is the evil person and the serpent is the good one and everything in the bible is flipped?? So we can say this is blasphemy?
It is one of the most blasphemous stories I have ever heard due to it not explaining the details of its mythos. Like who is the Creator of the worlds, the Dust, the angles etc. The gay angels wtf every show has to have gay as the norm in them. Like the ex-nuns forbidden love is her lesbian lust. It twist the Bible in so many ways. It never mentions Jesus Christ but shows a necklace of the cross with him on it. Lyra could use the aletheometer because of "Grace" but when she becomes an adult she has to do "works"
Removing God from authority is the fallen’s cause which is death
Metatron came from Gnostic books.
The Talmud
They didn't want ppl to read certain back then, the church hide up a lot of books that thing the public should get their hands on..
Is it fair to say this story is a referendum on religion? maybe the Catholic Church and it's strange/false power it holds over people and the wrongs it has brought upon humanity in the name of a god.
Yes, but trust me there'd be alot more wrong being done in a Godless society. This story does a good job at framing God as a controlling authority & if he weren't to exist people would be liberated. But ask yourself, liberated to do what? Kill? Engage in depravity? In the final episode mary speaks about innocence becoming experience, & how all forms of love are beautiful & there's basically no right or wrong. There are predators out there who love taking advantage of others... is that beautiful?
I think there's good to be taken from this story but also alot of good to be taken from religion. Trust me if we weren't a Christian society most people would be killing & thieving from each other, because there's no one there to sent in judgement. Yes religion is meant to control you, but control you from your basest primal impulses (which is a good thing imo, that's what separates us from animals)
@@gavinclements482 That's just BS. I don't need a god to tell me what's right or wrong. We can decide that for ourselves. The bible is full of clearly gruesome stuff done in the name of god.
@@agnosticpanda6655 God telling you what's right & wrong in the Bible is men deciding morals as you said... I don't think God himself wrote the Bible. I think men wrote the Bible. So the Bible is literally men "deciding for themselves" what's right & wrong. It was used as a way to pacify some of the pagan religions. Before that humans were being sacrificed... to God's that don't exist. I'd rather live in a Christian nation than any other, that's my point. Not that God is real or not, but the idea of God has kept alot of people from acting out heinous shit
@@gavinclements482 actually some of the most non-religious countries are the countries with the least amount of crimes committed.
@@meisbackforever overall crime or crime rates according to population? Today's Christian nations are somewhat different than the past since not many people ACTUALLY believe in God anymore. In the past however, Christianity allowed nations to thrive. The Renaissance happened under Christianity. People can argue the damage Christianity has done as well & I don't deny some of that, but the arts & sciences boomed in Christian nations particularly
Man in the Box by Alice in Chains
Great song for a funeral
Iiiim the maaaaaan in the box
No it needs to be more 90s. Eyaaaarmah the maayaaaarn in a bwuarx-ah
Does the authority really rule the multiverse with tiranny, like in the world is will I think they have much freedom in terms of their religious belief.
I feel like your videos would benefit from you figuring out what you're going to say and even looking a few things up before you start recording...
The man in metatrons cube is God..really doesn't need explaining
it's not THE God, not even A god, the book says this directly, it's the first angel who tricked everyone into thinking he was God, and no-one actually knows where God is, or even if He exists at all
Alice In Chains
Soundgarden - Man in the Box
It’s giving final fantasy xiii lcie falcie stuffffff
The ending is so stupid, so lord asriel is the only one smart enough to use technology to get to other words? He created a machine that we see him use with his demon where he is able to open a portal to other worlds and travel through it and then close the portal. So Asriel is the only one smart enough to figure this out? Everyone else is just an idiot then and they are really only trapped there because they are stupid? I am so mad and hate this ending.
He was the only one who had studied with and experimented with the technology, because 1) he was one of the few people in the world with the status, the means and knowledge to do so, and 2) he was one of the few people who were curious enough about dust to not only question the church, but outwardly defy it. Kind of like Galileo and Sir Issac Newton. Not that hard to believe at all, I don't see what your problem is.
The show has many many flaws it's meant to be entertaining not perfect.
So god dies? The end lol😂
Zzzzzzzzzzz…
Man in the box Metatron’s cube anyone the universe is really so lazy as to create a coincidence yet all seek to conspire🎉
The show really failed on explaining all of this.
Such a terrible last season 😂
Thinking the exact same. Was annoyed with pacing, but those last two episodes... really disappointed.
Couldn't even watch the last one episode.
Alice in Chains