Thanks to John, one of my Subscribers, for suggesting a video of Grant Gardens which used to be the Liverpool Necropolis. If you want to see some pictures of how it looked before it was turned into a park, check out the links in the video description. Here's a link to another video from TJ who filmed here last year, and this video also shows some of the old pictures ruclips.net/video/pKzohzXtI0I/видео.html Enjoy! 👻
Thanks Lynne, yes it's a shame it's been left to go to ruin. Hopefully one day it gets returned to an actual park that people will want to visit and spend time in. Thanks for watching.
I was born in the Scotch houses on Mill rd. we played in grant gardens, it was a lovely little park, complete with band stands and swings and rounabouts. It looks so desolate now…
Shame mate, I grew up in Old Swan and we had Rathbone Park by my house which was a Skateboard Park full of ramps and swings, footy pitch the lot. Like a scrapyard now. They are going to redo Rathbone Park soon 'apparently', but I'm not sure if there are any plans for Grant Gardens. Thanks for watching, hope you stick around.
Count 32 columns up from the Everton Road entrance. This is the specific area were people see an apparition of a young lady moving around. It is said that she is searching for the grave of her baby that was entombed in another person's burial site (a common practice as infant mortality was once a big issue in the city). This apparition was witnessed by mainly pregnant women walking through the Gardens to the extent that the local priests attended on several occasions and prayers for the lady were said for many years in St Francis Xavier's Church, Salisbury Street. Most of the people who witnessed these events have passed on now but there may well be further records of events in the church records from the surrounding churches too. I worked at Mill Road Hospital and many a person would enter the local pub, the Grapes Hotel, on their way home from work telling the clientele that they had seen a ghost in Grant Gardens and request a large scotch!
Wow! Brilliant information there David. I think I would need a full bottle of Scotch if it happened to me (or a Hennessy which is my tipple) :). Thanks for watching, hope you stick around.
I'm not from that area but when my mate John told me about it, I thought the same as you. I 'assumed' he meant that the bodies were moved somewhere else but then I found out they left them all buried there. Crazy.
Wow mate, that’s amazing, I passed that for many years before I found out it had been a cemetery. It’s really strange walking through there when you know what it used to be….. great video and very informative, thanks for sharing. 👍
Mad isn't it. I've been told of a few little pieces of Liverpool History that I drive past most days and don't even notice! Best open my eyes a bit more :) Thanks for watching.
@@tj..aworkinprogress1102 I left just before half 12 I think. Back to work on Monday so I will have to save a few more visits for a later date or at weekends.
Thanks! Really appreciated your notes. I've had a look at TJ's video as well - fascinating! The London Necropolis (and its railway) is worth looking into for those wanting to delve a bit more. The London one was out in Surrey - well out of the way of the 'metropolis', as you say. So may rabbit holes to go down! Laura
Brilliant! Thanks for the info Laura. I was based down in Surrey for a few years and there's lots of interesting buildings and villages down there. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it (my ears didn't enjoy it, serves me right for getting my hair cut this morning) :)
I think it's disgraceful that the dead were so completely disrespected in this way. It looked beautiful with all the monuments in place. Thank you for bringing this one to our attention. Be safe! Deb of Oz.
Thanks Deb, the majority of those buried in that Necropolis were Nonconformists (they didn't follow the doctrine of the Church of England), so maybe the powers that be at the time didn't care too much for the feelings of the families in question. It would've been better to just leave the headstones and structures in place after the last burial in 1898, and then close it to further internments like all of the other Cemeteries that reach capacity. Thanks for watching.
Excellent Vlog, my mum moved to the then new Henglers estate back in the early/mid 80s. The problem with moving there you had the old estate right next to it that was rundown and full of smackheads and deadbeats. I played Rugby and I use to train in that park by myself running round the outer pathway or I would run from my mums to Newsham park.if I was not training with the team. The wedding registration office was across the road and it’s now a mosque I believe. The plinth you show at the beginning in the park was the old water fountain, I remember it had the bowl on the top about 10 feet high.the newlyweds would come and get there pictures taken. its now looks half the size of what it was then. There was a play ground area ie swings and slide at the end were you can see the water tower. I remember back in the 80s being told by people the place you run and train at had bodies still in the ground. My mum made us go to school and get an education. As a teenager growing up around that area was great. I now live in the Cressington area but do still miss living there, as a teenager you knew no different. Keep up the great work
Wow! Thanks for the information Jeff, I didn't realise the entire registration office was now a Mosque but I discovered that the terraced houses to the left of the main building were Britain's first ever Mosque from back in the late 1800s. I'm happy that I've read a few comments here from people who knew it as it was from the 50s onwards. It's a crying shame that now it resembles the beginnings of a scrapyard. Thanks for watching, hope you stick around. I might film around Cressington one day, lovely buildings in Cressington Park.
@@ScouseFarm just subscribed hope to see more Vlogs like this one from our fantastic city. Cressington has some amazing buildings. The old Church,Train station and walk down to the river front.Keep it up buddy 👍👍
@@561jeffkelly Exactly, I've been in there a few times because my mate used to go out with a girl who lived in there. Great times. Thanks for subscribing, I appreciate it.
Nice one mate, yep, I knew nothing about it until John told me it might be worth doing a video. Hopefully it looks better in Spring and Summer next year.
did you know, in the 1970,s there was a cemetery ant the end of st ann,s st just past the police station, i remember it being fenced off while the grave,s were being moved to make way for the new road., i think it was called erskin st
I had no idea, thanks for the information, I'm sure someone in that area will remember what happened and where they move the graves to. There's so much change to the fabric of our city that I fear we will lose a lot of our history with the passing of the people who remember it first hand. Thanks for watching.
Yes, I thought it was only the houses to the left but the whole building is now a Mosque apparently. Let's hope the fabric of the building is well maintained because it's a stunning piece of architecture. Thanks for watching.
That's what I thought. There should be at least an individual structure explaining what it once was near the entrance at least. As it stands today, it looks disgusting from one end to the other. Thanks for watching.
@ScouseFarm Definitely. I agree with every point you raised in this video and your concern about this site is very evident and being kind enough to film a video to highlight this is very commendable, thank you for raising awareness about this. Even if the council asked the local college art or welding department to design a modern art large steel cross similar to that on the Cathedral and a bronze commemorative plaque, surely that wouldn't cost a huge amount. Maybe even something as simple as two steel joists (I-Beams) welded into a cross maybe even just 10 feet high on a concrete plinth with some decoration weaved around it could be made to look very beautiful by a couple of art students who would also likely be familiar with bronze casting for a memorial plaque and I am sure that a whole art deparment would feel enormously proud of being asked to undertake such a task. I am sure the local reclamation yard would donate the steel for free and a concreting firm would donate a couple of Cubic Metres of concrete for a base. Wouldn't have to cost anything at all in these financially tough times for councils. Truly sent a shiver down my spine too knowing that there are the remains of 80,000 people there and no significant marker. None of us would ever want to do anything disrespectful or even just innocently play on such an important site with the knowledge of it being a mass grave. It is very clear from the video how concerned you are about the junk in the corner too. I very much doubt that the fine people of Liverpool would be so disrespectful as to be fly-tipping on that site albeit in the corner of the if the tippers in question knew of the significance of the place and I have no doubt that they had no idea. You only have to think of the fortitude and courage shown by Liverpool folk to unearth the truth about the Hillsborough disaster to know that Liverpudlians go to enormous lengths to honour, respect and defend its dead. Best wishes and thank you one again for this video, very moving indeed.
That hideous new building was built on the site of the former Gregsons Well pub. There was another pub with the same name across the road. They were both named after the well in the grounds of a mansion owned be a Mr Gregson. The reason Everton Road has the kink in it was because Mr Gregson didn't want it to run too close to the entrance to his property.
@@lesturner7888 I have no idea about the 'tech' stuff myself mate. I'll have a search online for it. Nice one for putting the info in the comments though, I'm sure other people will want to see it too. 👍
when i was about 3yrs old, I lived with my nanna n grandad in gilroy rd, kenny. I used to ask them apparently who all the bodies were under the floor boards in the back room. Eventually they did some researching and found out the entire area was built on a giant graveyard. All the bodies were meant to be exhumed and put in them gardens and the monument was put there. But, what are the chances they got them all. I have irish ancestors, and was told I had the gift. Still have it but not as strong.
Sadly this is not news as a child I played with my friends in Grant Gardens regularly in the 1940/50s. I was brought up not far from the place in West Darby Road. And we all a where that its real name was Metropolis Cemetery. Saturday we would play there then cross the road for the Saturday morning Cinema at the Hippodrome. All now nearly a lifetime away.
The Mosque is the Terraced Houses (numbers 8-10) which are to the left of that massive building mate. It was the first Mosque in Britain when a convert opened it as a place of worship back in the late 1800s. Thanks for watching.
There was a lot of sickness through the 1800s in Liverpool due to the poor sanitation and the overcrowding in places. A lot of the graveyards are said to house those who supposedly died of Typhus, Cholera etc. Thanks for watching.
Agreed! A complete waste of space with nothing of worth on the entire 5 acre plot. As has been mentioned by others in the comments who live around there, they used to play on the swings and other playground apparatus in Grant Gardens. Now it is just a dumping ground and a patch of sketchy grass, shameful.
Thanks to John, one of my Subscribers, for suggesting a video of Grant Gardens which used to be the Liverpool Necropolis. If you want to see some pictures of how it looked before it was turned into a park, check out the links in the video description. Here's a link to another video from TJ who filmed here last year, and this video also shows some of the old pictures ruclips.net/video/pKzohzXtI0I/видео.html Enjoy! 👻
Thank you for sharing and for bringing this to our attention. It's so sad but the people must never be forgotten x
Thanks Lynne, yes it's a shame it's been left to go to ruin. Hopefully one day it gets returned to an actual park that people will want to visit and spend time in. Thanks for watching.
I was born in the Scotch houses on Mill rd. we played in grant gardens, it was a lovely little park, complete with band stands and swings and rounabouts. It looks so desolate now…
Shame mate, I grew up in Old Swan and we had Rathbone Park by my house which was a Skateboard Park full of ramps and swings, footy pitch the lot. Like a scrapyard now. They are going to redo Rathbone Park soon 'apparently', but I'm not sure if there are any plans for Grant Gardens. Thanks for watching, hope you stick around.
Count 32 columns up from the Everton Road entrance. This is the specific area were people see an apparition of a young lady moving around. It is said that she is searching for the grave of her baby that was entombed in another person's burial site (a common practice as infant mortality was once a big issue in the city). This apparition was witnessed by mainly pregnant women walking through the Gardens to the extent that the local priests attended on several occasions and prayers for the lady were said for many years in St Francis Xavier's Church, Salisbury Street. Most of the people who witnessed these events have passed on now but there may well be further records of events in the church records from the surrounding churches too. I worked at Mill Road Hospital and many a person would enter the local pub, the Grapes Hotel, on their way home from work telling the clientele that they had seen a ghost in Grant Gardens and request a large scotch!
Wow! Brilliant information there David. I think I would need a full bottle of Scotch if it happened to me (or a Hennessy which is my tipple) :). Thanks for watching, hope you stick around.
I was born just down the the road in Hughes St. We used to play in there as kids, i always thought the remains were removed. Nice video.
I'm not from that area but when my mate John told me about it, I thought the same as you. I 'assumed' he meant that the bodies were moved somewhere else but then I found out they left them all buried there. Crazy.
Wow mate, that’s amazing, I passed that for many years before I found out it had been a cemetery. It’s really strange walking through there when you know what it used to be….. great video and very informative, thanks for sharing. 👍
Thanks for giving me the tip. I just wish it was Summer so I could see some flowers as well. Nice one mate.
Lost count how many times I have been past this , Great peace of local history.
Mad isn't it. I've been told of a few little pieces of Liverpool History that I drive past most days and don't even notice! Best open my eyes a bit more :) Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the shout out😁 - definatly go back in the spring 😊my parents were married in Brougham Terrace
You're very welcome TJ. Yep, poor little ears got a bit chilly there today :)
@@ScouseFarm what time were you there , i went past approx 1pm
@@tj..aworkinprogress1102 I left just before half 12 I think. Back to work on Monday so I will have to save a few more visits for a later date or at weekends.
Wow , interesting mate . You just never know what’s below 😬
Thanks for sharing 👍
Lots of fascinating stuff going on in our fair City that's for sure. Have a good weekend Glenn.
You too Anthony 😊👍
Thanks! Really appreciated your notes. I've had a look at TJ's video as well - fascinating! The London Necropolis (and its railway) is worth looking into for those wanting to delve a bit more. The London one was out in Surrey - well out of the way of the 'metropolis', as you say. So may rabbit holes to go down! Laura
Brilliant! Thanks for the info Laura. I was based down in Surrey for a few years and there's lots of interesting buildings and villages down there. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it (my ears didn't enjoy it, serves me right for getting my hair cut this morning) :)
Interesting video mate, never knew this 👍
Thanks mate, finding out a lot of stuff about Liverpool that I didn't know myself. Nice one.
ta lad,jus subscribed,keep giving fond memories to uz all
Nice one mate, appreciate it!
I think it's disgraceful that the dead were so completely disrespected in this way. It looked beautiful with all the monuments in place. Thank you for bringing this one to our attention. Be safe! Deb of Oz.
Thanks Deb, the majority of those buried in that Necropolis were Nonconformists (they didn't follow the doctrine of the Church of England), so maybe the powers that be at the time didn't care too much for the feelings of the families in question. It would've been better to just leave the headstones and structures in place after the last burial in 1898, and then close it to further internments like all of the other Cemeteries that reach capacity. Thanks for watching.
Excellent Vlog, my mum moved to the then new Henglers estate back in the early/mid 80s. The problem with moving there you had the old estate right next to it that was rundown and full of smackheads and deadbeats.
I played Rugby and I use to train in that park by myself running round the outer pathway or I would run from my mums to Newsham park.if I was not training with the team.
The wedding registration office was across the road and it’s now a mosque I believe.
The plinth you show at the beginning in the park was the old water fountain, I remember it had the bowl on the top about 10 feet high.the newlyweds would come and get there pictures taken. its now looks half the size of what it was then.
There was a play ground area ie swings and slide at the end were you can see the water tower.
I remember back in the 80s being told by people the place you run and train at had bodies still in the ground.
My mum made us go to school and get an education. As a teenager growing up around that area was great. I now live in the Cressington area but do still miss living there, as a teenager you knew no different.
Keep up the great work
Wow! Thanks for the information Jeff, I didn't realise the entire registration office was now a Mosque but I discovered that the terraced houses to the left of the main building were Britain's first ever Mosque from back in the late 1800s. I'm happy that I've read a few comments here from people who knew it as it was from the 50s onwards. It's a crying shame that now it resembles the beginnings of a scrapyard. Thanks for watching, hope you stick around. I might film around Cressington one day, lovely buildings in Cressington Park.
@@ScouseFarm just subscribed hope to see more Vlogs like this one from our fantastic city. Cressington has some amazing buildings. The old Church,Train station and walk down to the river front.Keep it up buddy 👍👍
@@561jeffkelly Exactly, I've been in there a few times because my mate used to go out with a girl who lived in there. Great times. Thanks for subscribing, I appreciate it.
in the 50s it was my local park it had swings and other stuff, i lived just across the road in job street. what memories.
Brilliant! At least now we know it was used as an actual park and not just left as a patch of grass. Thanks for watching.
Great video,Brougham terrace once known as St Brougham's(weddings)👏
Nice one mate, glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
Interesting mate I never even knew this does make you think though wow
Nice one mate, yep, I knew nothing about it until John told me it might be worth doing a video. Hopefully it looks better in Spring and Summer next year.
did you know, in the 1970,s there was a cemetery ant the end of st ann,s st just past the police station, i remember it being fenced off while the grave,s were being moved to make way for the new road., i think it was called erskin st
I had no idea, thanks for the information, I'm sure someone in that area will remember what happened and where they move the graves to. There's so much change to the fabric of our city that I fear we will lose a lot of our history with the passing of the people who remember it first hand. Thanks for watching.
Brougham Terrace Registry office is now a Mosque .....
Yes, I thought it was only the houses to the left but the whole building is now a Mosque apparently. Let's hope the fabric of the building is well maintained because it's a stunning piece of architecture. Thanks for watching.
Even a big wall like that is difficult to explain construction. Where did all the ornate bits go? Why?
Shame they destroyed it. Thanks for watching.
How awful that there isn't a suitable monument reinstalled there to commemorate these 80,000 dead.
That's what I thought. There should be at least an individual structure explaining what it once was near the entrance at least. As it stands today, it looks disgusting from one end to the other. Thanks for watching.
@ScouseFarm Definitely. I agree with every point you raised in this video and your concern about this site is very evident and being kind enough to film a video to highlight this is very commendable, thank you for raising awareness about this.
Even if the council asked the local college art or welding department to design a modern art large steel cross similar to that on the Cathedral and a bronze commemorative plaque, surely that wouldn't cost a huge amount. Maybe even something as simple as two steel joists (I-Beams) welded into a cross maybe even just 10 feet high on a concrete plinth with some decoration weaved around it could be made to look very beautiful by a couple of art students who would also likely be familiar with bronze casting for a memorial plaque and I am sure that a whole art deparment would feel enormously proud of being asked to undertake such a task. I am sure the local reclamation yard would donate the steel for free and a concreting firm would donate a couple of Cubic Metres of concrete for a base. Wouldn't have to cost anything at all in these financially tough times for councils.
Truly sent a shiver down my spine too knowing that there are the remains of 80,000 people there and no significant marker. None of us would ever want to do anything disrespectful or even just innocently play on such an important site with the knowledge of it being a mass grave.
It is very clear from the video how concerned you are about the junk in the corner too. I very much doubt that the fine people of Liverpool would be so disrespectful as to be fly-tipping on that site albeit in the corner of the if the tippers in question knew of the significance of the place and I have no doubt that they had no idea.
You only have to think of the fortitude and courage shown by Liverpool folk to unearth the truth about the Hillsborough disaster to know that Liverpudlians go to enormous lengths to honour, respect and defend its dead.
Best wishes and thank you one again for this video, very moving indeed.
@@Handlebar-MustDash Thank you very much, some great ideas there. Take care.
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That hideous new building was built on the site of the former Gregsons Well pub. There was another pub with the same name across the road. They were both named after the well in the grounds of a mansion owned be a Mr Gregson. The reason Everton Road has the kink in it was because Mr Gregson didn't want it to run too close to the entrance to his property.
Brilliant. Thanks for the info Les, I'm sure the Pubs looked a lot better than that thing they replaced them with. Thanks for watching.
@ScouseFarm I've got a picture of it, but I don't know how to attach it to the comments
@@lesturner7888 I have no idea about the 'tech' stuff myself mate. I'll have a search online for it. Nice one for putting the info in the comments though, I'm sure other people will want to see it too. 👍
@ScouseFarm it was a lovely building
when i was about 3yrs old, I lived with my nanna n grandad in gilroy rd, kenny. I used to ask them apparently who all the bodies were under the floor boards in the back room. Eventually they did some researching and found out the entire area was built on a giant graveyard. All the bodies were meant to be exhumed and put in them gardens and the monument was put there. But, what are the chances they got them all. I have irish ancestors, and was told I had the gift. Still have it but not as strong.
A fair few mysteries from the past that's for sure. Thanks for watching.
Sadly this is not news as a child I played with my friends in Grant Gardens regularly in the 1940/50s. I was brought up not far from the place in West Darby Road. And we all a where that its real name was Metropolis Cemetery. Saturday we would play there then cross the road for the Saturday morning Cinema at the Hippodrome. All now nearly a lifetime away.
It was certainly better when it had the swings in by the look of it. Shame how it looks today. Thanks for watching.
and Brougham Terrace is now a Mosque !
The Mosque is the Terraced Houses (numbers 8-10) which are to the left of that massive building mate. It was the first Mosque in Britain when a convert opened it as a place of worship back in the late 1800s. Thanks for watching.
Wasn't there a major cholera epidemic in Liverpool in the 1830s?
There was a lot of sickness through the 1800s in Liverpool due to the poor sanitation and the overcrowding in places. A lot of the graveyards are said to house those who supposedly died of Typhus, Cholera etc. Thanks for watching.
What a pathetic park a sad place.
Agreed! A complete waste of space with nothing of worth on the entire 5 acre plot. As has been mentioned by others in the comments who live around there, they used to play on the swings and other playground apparatus in Grant Gardens. Now it is just a dumping ground and a patch of sketchy grass, shameful.