Ping G400 vs Callaway Epic vs TaylorMade M1 vs Titleist 917 | Driver Test | Golf Monthly
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
- ► Watch our head-to-head test of the biggest drivers of 2017, as Golf Monthly Digital Editor Neil Tappin hits the Ping G400, Callaway Epic, TaylorMade M1 and Titleist 917 on a Foresight Sports GC2 launch monitor
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I loved how comprehensive this test was. Well done! As stated, the key is to get custom fitted!
that bit about swing change and picking the Taylormade was Golden advice, Mate. good job.
Based on drivers you chose to compare, I believe you should have tested the 917D3 and not the D2 model. Good video nonetheless.
Good point... However, that is what the Titleist guys fitted me into and I prefer to look down on the slightly bigger D2.
I've got a Ping Rapture that i have had for years, being less than consistent with my driver with direction but certainly hitting it in excess of 270 most times will i gain anything extra from a new driver in terms of forgiveness?
James hilarant I have one in 9 degree I hit straighter alonger than my 917 d 3 paid 50 in perfect condition sold d 3
I have the 2 rescue in my bag, never found anything to match
Nice, concise, & very well informed driver test. Nicely done!
love the golf ball bouncing through the bunker at :48 :)
Had the M1 and tried an Epic SZ. Both long. But I game the 917D2. I found it so so so much more accurate. In play for me far more often.
probably because the shaft is shorter
I liked the video. The Ping gave you your best numbers though, not the Epic
You mentioned that you like the fade bias in the 917 but not that the epic sz is built with a fade bias... also, you hit the sub zero 12 yards further on avg while hitting it less offline on avg in this test than the titleist (I do see where the dispersion seems tighter on the 917)... sounds to me like the fact that you grew up on titleist drivers is still swaying your opinion. That's ok though as it is exactly that... you have to play what you are comfortable with and have the most confidence gaming. Enjoy!
Thanks Kevin - its a tough call. i think perhaps some time on the course with the SZ would be useful. No doubting how powerful it is, in fact, it's a great all round driver
Kevin Coleman it's the one driver that was custom fitted to him too, had the other 3 been fitted, could be a different result
Great video!! I completely agree with the 917 D2. I played the D2 from October to February and hit the fairway 70 percent of the time during those months. Epic comes out and I was blown away with the distance. I made the switch. I gamed it up until last week when I look at my stats with It over the last 5 months. I was down to 39 percent of fairways. It goes a mile, but it is a smaller looking head and it just isn't as forgiving. That's just me though. Like you I went the most familiar
Well said. There is a significant part of golf club testing that is not about the numbers. Which driver do you feel most confident using? That's the million dollar question!
Well said. The reason of why you suggested why someone might want to get the TM for its adjustability? that is why I bought the Mizuno JPX900 :)
Good driver!
Great in-depth review! Thanks for doing the research to help my decision!
What I find interesting is you were most accurate on side angle with the m1 and least accurate on side angle with the ping and have the same average offline right between the two. Looks like ping is way more forgiving of offline shots. I tried all these same clubs today and found the ping the best for me personally.
Not sure why you didn't compare to the 917 D3 to make it fairer
I prefer the bigger head of the D2 and that's what I was fitted into. You make a good point however, as a straight comparison test perhaps the D3 would have produced better numbers... I'm just not sure the overall performance would have been better
Paul Chisholm hgg
I also have played titleist drivers for years.. so good, wouldn't change to hit it 10 yards farther. I hate looking for golfballs. My Titleist works 5 days a week. No driver works everyday! lol
For a more fair comparison, you could've used the M1 440 which is the lower spinning model.
The Callaway GBB Epic should have been in the group to compete with the M1. It had all the adjustment you need like the M! and it is just as long hitting as the Epic Sub Zero.
3 are low spinning clubs, the 917 D2 is the more forgiving head, not a distance head...??
Callaway Epic, better on distance, better on accuracy; what am I missing here other than adjustability which could be solved by going to the regular vs. sub-zero model?
I think you said it up front... Fitting, Fitting Fitting...
Epic is king! Best driver I've ever used
Nice review but wasn't the Epic more accurate in your testing than the Titliest ?
D2? If you are picking drivers for a low spin test why are you not using the d3?
Hello. Why not the Mizuno ?? It's extremely nice.
We all have the lens we focus through and that will always give a bias, but what i always find interesting about these compares is the how. It seems that you had one driver that was fitted for you and the other three were not. To make this a 'fair' comparison wouldn't all three of them have to be custom fit for you to reveal the best numbers in each performance category possible? Otherwise, it's just a random shot at performance.
Based on how I perceive this test to be conducted the Ping won the 'power' category with the most ball speed while it lacked in distance due to a less than optimal launch angle.
Yes, I have a ping lens on ... MOI rules for me.
It's a fair point Gabe especially as, during a fitting you might end up with some small tweaks (more loft, different shaft, weight position) that adds extra performance. I take your comments on board - perhaps it would have been a fairer test to put the Titleist driver back into a neutral set up just to provide some base numbers for each one. Thoughts?
I think the best test of the performance of each club is a custom fit. A distant second is an 'off the shelf' version of each down to the most common shaft and loft offered in their 'from-the-factory' setting.
Also, i want to express my appreciation for the effort behind this video and others like it. I watch them and enjoy them.
Leave the reviews to the pros!!! Golf monthly needs to fold and hurry up about it!!!
Driver reviews must always be taken with a pinch of salt, as anyone who has ever had a 'real' fitting done should know it is the shaft that primarily dictates how a driver performs for you. Don't decide on a driver from a review or from simulators in shops, you need to see the actual flight and true distance by hitting with several different shaft and loft options. I spent years wasting money on drivers because the simulator gave me good numbers, save yourself money and get a proper fitting.
0:48 whoops! (background)
Man LonG 9
I sold and fitted golf clubs for years. HMT and other golf sims love low spinning shots. The lower the spin the farther they go. But there is a point where it's too low spinning and all of those averages with the exception of the Titleist are right on the border of being too low. Take those out on the course and I'll bet big money they don't carry that far.
yes yes yes...im a 112mph swinger 2 cap. simulators all day favor lower spin, but outside not as much. if you are fitted in a simulator, please go for the driver that seems to have a tad tad too much spin. so for me the perfect hit on trackman and gc2 is about 1800-2000 spin... in reality the perfect driver is about 2200-2400 on gc2. trackman same thing. how does this translate........on gc2 my best driver length was easily 2017 m1. 917 d2 and mizuno were 20 yards behind easily. my nut with m1 was 325 gc2. nut 917 280.....outside d2 with the wind longer and against slight wind about 5 yards behind the m1. any mishit with m1 was way worse too low spining. ive had 25 drives in last 3 years. i have enough experience to have developed sim drivers and real course drivers....
why didn't u use a regular gbb epic? it would be more comparable
agree
Well done.
Used the low spin model in every brand except Titleist? D3 instead of D2
well done!
Your fitted driver was ten yards shorter than all the rest. Add 5-10 yards to the others once fitted and you’re choosing a driver 15-20 yards shorter? Accuracy of the others once fitted should be better... hmmmm...
Not really a fan of this test, I don't play any of these I play the ping G, but I'd of either tested all of them together or at least tested the less Adjustable ones against each other and the more Adjustable agaisnt each other. And had 1 that was fitted for in the test, just doesn't make a lot of sense.
Also you have the callaway SUB_ZERO spinning at 1600 and then a D2 at 2000. Equalize spin man
Looks like Ping wins hands down
I totally disagree with you,i think you should of got a couple of golfers in this Video then got an overview. I like your FJ top are you sponsored by Titleist?????
sounds like you wanted to say Epic !!
Why don't you try the rouge
G400 LST hands down the best driver I've ever hit. It is amazing. Im hitting 340 dead straight. I'm a taylormade fan. Got rid of my M1 and it doesn't even compare to this. Go try one out, you will not be disappointed I promise! Swing speed around 120 with a 10 degree turned up to 11
340? Damn man you’re bombing it!
Benjamin Burton your swing speed is also impressive. The average on tour (which is subjective to holes) is a very high swing speed. I swing around 111-115 and it’s funny, I hit my 913 D3, R15, and XR16 Pro basically the same
Benjamin Burton your swing speed is also impressive. The average on tour (which is subjective to holes) is a very high swing speed. I swing around 111-115 and it’s funny, I hit my 913 D3, R15, and XR16 Pro basically the same
How is the feel of the g400? I have an old ping i20 driver that feels as good as it looks. So solid. The G400 is maybe a replacement with getting.
Titleist drivers get no hype these days
Because they don't come out every six months with 'revolutionary, groundbreaking, add 150 yards to your drive and 3 inches to your penis' technology. They may be losing out among the masses but it also carves out a niche market that prefers strong brand recognition over extensive advertising. You don't see endless advertising for Mizuno irons or Ferrari, because they don't need them. As long as the ProV1 monopolises the premium ball market, Titleist seem content with their marketing strategy.
I'd play a driver that gave me an extra 3 inches on my penis.
The only time my girlfriend would be encouraging me to buy new clubs.
Inches on their penis(es)? They always do.
James Grant so that would give you total of 4 inches
Imagine that...you picked the driver you were fitted for
Titleist 917D2 Launch angle is too low (1.1~3.4) compared to the others'
Hmm £400 odd quid to get what.. an extra 10 yards perhaps? I bet £400 on lessons would yield a much larger improvement!
mizuno?
Who noticed the ball @0:51 😂😂
Think u need to calibrate your machine how can u have a further carry than overall distance 😂 backspinning drivers superb
Flip a coin new drivers are all awesome
917
The M1 looks good if you like to eat b&w cookies
917 all the way...
This video is no help.. at all. Incredibly Titleist bias. Of course the one you were fitted for will be the best. Should have been taken out of the test.
Should have been D3
FFFOOOORRREEE!!!! @ 0:49
interesting but i don't buy you are hitting it 290 with that swing. no chance.
Subzero all day long
M1 all day long
Your swing is not going to deliver 300yards on a course, that's for sure :)
Aaaaaand heres the Troll ^
John jsmit that's not trolling, it's fact.
Look Troll ... 1... Go to one of his tests , take a trackman plus Laser range finder , measure each shot he does . After 10 hits , look at the numbers and post your findings here , The results of your tests will be more fact than the idiotic comment you posted above ....2... Go look up the definition of the word "Fact " ..3.. Now go look up the definition of the world "Troll " , disregard your picture next to the def . Dumbass
John jsmit strange response, are you in love with him?
Such a typical response from a Troll .
Yep and stating that Epic couldnt be adjusted... Bollocks just get the normal Epic... Please lord remove this man from youtube... So thankful for the other youtube stars