Same. I thought he was just evil then I saw his line of thinking, especialy when he tells Spidey no matter how much he does people will find a reason to hate him. It parallels how he did everything for Oscorp and they still gave him the axe.
Same....I've seen my ideas literally used and implemented cast out to the woods. Or people learn I've done decent and they will belittle or disregard my accomplishments.
I’m a business owner, and every time I see this scene it reminds me to never let the majority of stock into the hands of others especially people I don’t trust. This is a weird way to learn a lesson but it’s always stuck with me
So you're saying this can actually happen in real life? I could never expect an entire body of people would unanimously and selfishly agree to reject the guy who Kickstarted the business for money.
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn yes it sure can its really messed up, a famous example is with Elon Musk and Paypal he was kicked off the board and was forced to sell his shares
@TMF979Resurge during that scene, his voice goes down a pitch when he says "eventually they will hate you" to where he sounds like Norman for that line
See, none of this would have happened had he bought most of the company's shares through various charitable foundations and trusts and so forth... it's all a bit technical but had he done that, his company's future would have been secured.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Yep. The possible end-result of not owning 51% of the company's shares. He became an optics nightmare (associate found dead in a lab within his facility, etc.) so when the opponent's offer was not only generous, but their only stipulation was that the board get rid of Norman, that was a deal too good for them to pass up, especially since they weren't related to him/close to him... the fact that he created the company meant absolutely nothing.
I feel so bad for Norman in this scene. Years and years of hard work are getting destroyed and given to his principal competition. Glad he’s back in NWH
At that level its all ego and petty politics. Needless to say he likely had it coming because he pushed the envelope and the outside powers (Military, Quest Aerospace, and whatever regulating body hampering his human testing) long wanted him gone and not near the pseudo super soldier program. Norman is definitely the type to do whatever he wants regardless of who tells him otherwise including his own son. This may be useful in the early stages of the program because now you have a fall guy incase sh!t goes sideways but its clear Norman was atleast competent enough to not screw up entirely. So they did what dumb complacent rich people do to solve problems, throw money at it and hope it goes away or destroys itself. Without a doubt Norman would have received a very hefty severance pay during the buyout because he had stock in the company aswell. Just not a controlling share. They were banking on his selfishness/greed to outweigh his pride. But the dude was crazy enough to strap himself to the test table and risk his life to get even. Kinda based when you think about it lol.
“you know how much i sacrificed!!” that line says a lot. probably had to sacrifice time with Harry and vacations and all the good things that come in life just so he could make it to the top. and for him to be tossed out like nothing and have his company sold. i can see why he did the things he did.
I know saying this is easy but we should never get attached with our employers or employees It always ends badly Keeping professional and personal life seperate is today's necessity
Sometimes there's a reason why things happen and villains become who they are. I don't always blame them. When you have been stiffed . Especially in the corporate world.
If we go by the canon of the comics, Norman dedicated his life to holding up the company, corrupted his own morals, focused more time on the company more then his family, regretted how much time he neglected them when his wife died and all that effort and sacrifice to have it all be sold out from under him.
@@ExcitedAlex Oh, right. I knew that I saw that phrase before. I just can understand why Albus was so psycho with Harry in that scene. My old dog was a second away of giving Harry a cruciatus.
I love how in this scene, when Norman is saying “Do you know how much I’ve sacrificed”, you can clearly see how upset and how full of regret he is in that he didn’t spend a lot of father/son time bonding time with Harry. Brilliant acting from Willem Dafoe!
One of the reasons why i don´t want to have kids is because i know i´ll have to work several hours per week and not spending time with kids. Trust me. My parents worked 12 hours from monday to monday. I know what it feels. I struggled with depression and anxiety all my life. I don´t want my kids to suffer the same.
The older I get, the more I understand and sympathize with what Norman did. When his company was at the height of its career, those who held stock over his company sold his ENTIRE company to a rival company without even consulting with him about it. The least they could’ve done was told him weeks or months before hand instead of a day in advance especially given the fact that it’s his name on the line and not theirs. They’re literally selling his life’s work in front of him and telling him it’s nothing he can do about it. That’s enough to make a man snap
Agreed I’m not justifying his actions later on but I can certainly understand why he did what he did. And at this point, the Goblin was already in him.
But that's what happens when you take your company public, you lose control, especially if you're not a majority shareholder and so you can be outvoted. While they did sell the company without consulting him, they sold the company at its highest ever valuation. Norman's shares in the company probably went up, so it's not like he walked away with nothing.
@@ajdominguez1002 What’s the 3rd one? Is it in Spider-Man 3 when he says to Harry “You know what you must do. Make him suffer. Make him wish he were dead. FIRST, WE ATTACK HIS HEART!”
Not enough people talk about this, but I really love how No Way Home makes Norman so much more sympathetic than he already was, like seriously, you can really see how frightened and helpless he is against his alter ego. It’s just heartbreaking
Every time he was onscreen I had no clue if he was really that scared or if it was the Goblin manipulating them. That idea makes him more scary in my opinion.
@@liamoliver5848 literally was telling my girlfriend the whole time he was on screen like i kept going back and forth between “i think he’s actually scared” and “nah he’s playing dumb right now LOOK”
One of the things he mentioned searching for was his son, i found that cool because i always considered GG and Norman two different personalities and i always believed Norman always loved his son. He was basically the last person he was thinking about.o
This is where all of the Green Goblin’s morals come from. They come from Norman’s own inner feelings of betrayal, anger, disappointment, and greed, in order to create the alternate self that is Green Goblin. Norman did everything to obtain power the right way, so now that that amounted to nothing in the end, what’s stopping Goblin from obtaining it in his own vile way? This is why he tells Spider-Man he shouldn’t bother doing the right thing for others, because he believes it’ll all end up like it did for Norman, with him having nothing but disappointment, loss, and hatred from others. To him, all that really matters in a world of winners and losers… is power.
He's been nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Oscar 3 Times (For 'Platoon, 'Shadow of the Vampire' and 'The Florida Project') and a Best Actor Oscar for 'At Eternity's Gate'.
At the same time, the "academy" has been in shambles for a long long time, just remember Shawshank Redemption was nominated but never awarded, and we are talking about one the BEST films ever made.
Willem Dafoe's acting was phenomenal in this movie. This was one of the first films I ever saw. As a child I didn't fully appreciate his performance as Norman Osborn, but every time I rewatch it, it gets better. There's so much depth to his character that becomes clearer with every watch, very few except Willem Dafoe could have captured that so accurately
Imagine getting kicked out of your own company that you helped build and worked your ass off for. Also Willem Defoe's performance in this movie was incredible can't wait to see him again in No Way Home
Legit. They're selling the company that Osborn built with blood, sweat, and tears - some of it was even his - that has his _name_ on it, the company that _he_ put _them_ on the board to _help_ said company. And they're like "I know its your company and you're our boss, but we're selling it, and you're quitting in a few days, which should be less humiliating than getting fired by your own employees."
That doesn't really make since though. Norman mentions Oscorp's stock has never been higher, implying that it is a publicly traded company. Being the founder and CEO, I think it is safe to assume Norman is the majority shareholder of Oscorp. If that is the case, then everyone else can sell their shares to Quest, but that doesn't mean Norman has to. Norman can still be the majority shareholder of Oscorp and have the controlling interest in Oscorp, even if Quest buys everyone else's shares.
@@bryan1687 he's msd cuz his employees are selling _his_ company behind his back. If he cared about a payoff or similar, he wouldve sold the company himself.
Imagine starting a company, watching it grow over the years at the cost of quality time with your family, especially after your wife's death. Eventually, the company reaches its absolute peak yet the board of directors, people you genuinely considered close friends, decided to go behind your back and essentially kick you out of your own company in order to sell your magnum opus to your biggest business rival. All that hard work, all that dedication, all that missed time with your only son, all for it to go to Quest Aerospace.
Osborn just sacrificed his relationship with his son to gave the 100% of his time to the company and they literally kicked him off like NOTHING. Gobby did many bad things but killing Oscorp's board wasn't one of them.
Yes it was. If the company meant this much to him he shouldve never sold the majority of the shares. Yes, the board was ruthless when it came to business- and 1 of the members was particularly heartless about it, but they didnt rob him of his life.
@@michaelquire7940 i'm curious and i dont really understand the situations, can you tell me how is it possible for a company to kick its founder like in norman's position? 🤔 why is it legal tho
As a kid, these lines fly over our heads and we see Norman as the villain bc “he bad booo” Now after being able to understand all of this, we sympathise with him more than anyone
@@rebelfriend1818 first of all, not everyone automatically knows the underlying meaning behind corporate business practises at 8 Secondly, fly over our heads not don’t understand
@@rebelfriend1818 why are you trying to come off as smarter than you really are. you’ve the missed the entire point of his original twice already good lord
Honestly the Goblin was too goofy to hate in this movie compared to No Way Home where he was so serious. Norman, however, I’ve always felt bad for him.
Idk I’m honestly a pretty big fan of Killmonger, Ego, Mysterio, Hela, Thanos, Vulture, Winter Soldier, & Wenwu. Goblin was iconic & nostalgic, but the MCU has had some decent villains IMO post-Phase 1 & 2.
No shit dude. So many people can’t put themselves in someone else’s shoes. People kill people in this world over small drug debts, someone stole there girl, had their car stolen etc… Imagine building a company, working tirelessly, barely getting sleep, sacrificing so many things that you could have done in life like spending more time with your son, travelling settling down etc… And than in just a short meeting you get told all of that. The point I’m trying to make is to all these people that say “Ohh psychopath because he killed people.” You wouldn’t know what he’s going through because you’ve never lived that life. And even if you think you can understand what he ls going through, you don’t. You’ve never owned a multi million/billion dollar company. Idk why I’m even going on.
@@JezzaSezza people keep complain the working class suffer their life, but the truth, the upper class also suffer as well where the company you work hard and few days later it sold to other hands or worst the government. Plus the board members and thier friends backstab you.
I haven’t seen that one before as a meme, yet it has so much potential to be one! Hopefully it is and I just missed that boat. I’ve seen the quote after used plenty, though.
Honestly, the older I get, the more I appreciate Norman Osborn's character compared to Otto Octavius. The poor guy has just been screwed in every facet of his life that he develops pessimism that the Goblin takes ahold of. He isn't a clear cut good guy, he is definitely flawed. Norman continually has the door closed on him by his friends, his wife, etc. To the point where he is willing to experiment on himself just to keep any shred of importance he might have. It's truly sad. Otto felt like he was mind controlled but Norman felt like he just needed a hug.
True. Norman is basically pollar opposite of Peter Parker but also shares alot in common with the hero. They are both victims of the harsh and unfair world, with people mistreating them or not recognizing their efforts. The difference is that Peter comes from a working class background and was raised by his Uncle Ben and Aunt May that thought him to learn and adapt to his disadvantages, while Norman is rich successful businessman who takes pride of his career , refusing to admite failure. He is arrogant while Spider man is humble
@@alexandrefrauches132 Im no Tom Holland hater and I even like Garfield’s portrayal and movies but I truly wish people understood why I like Tobey’s much more. You just can’t compare to the original SpiderMan trilogy the storytelling aside from some corny MJ stuff is truly amazing.
@@jeremytoth7635 That's your opnion, I like most of the Spidey movies (except Spider man 3 and TASM 2). The first two Raimi movies are classics and have a great story, but I do belive the two reboots did improve in some points, despite not having same quality for many fans.
Otto fell as hard as he did because a simple math error spiraled out of control at the worst possible time And the arms began to mess with his brain as he began to realize he was essentially responsible for his wife's death Osborn was a victim of his own pride while Otto was more a case of mis-processed grief
1:03 When he turns to Max and begs him it is just heartbreaking ….. you can clearly see they were close friends and Norman trusted and cared for him deeply and he expects him to stay by his side but no….. business was always more important and his apology is obviously insincere…. 😞
0:26 You wait for when Tobey and Andrew will appear but the credits start 0:48 You still wait but there isn't even a after credits scene about Tobey and Andrew 0:56 When the movie is over, the text "I missed the part where thats my problem" appears on the screen
I think it was the look on that guy's face near the end when he said "You're out, Norman" that pushed him over the edge and gave him that motivation to kill the board members. Maybe he would have still killed them, but maybe he would have been able to suppress the Goblin if he'd been convinced it was just a business move and they really didn't bear any ill will to him (not that it isn't still fucked). But that guy's demeanor at the end looked almost spiteful, like he enjoyed giving Norman the news that they'd basically destroyed the last however many decades of his life and had no empathy for him at all. When he saw the look on his face, he definitely wanted to kill him specifically
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor It looks like he's some kind of rival that Norman's had for decades and he's just fucked him over in the worst way possible
"Everybody's making money, people are buying stock, and we have never been in a better position as a company". "Cool, we're selling and you're fired". Brilliant businessmen.
I literally just wrote a comment like this Like imagine throwing away the opportunity to be the *principle* supplier to the US military right as the War on Terror is getting started? Like what????
I feel so bad for this man, he really did sacrifice so much and lost so much precious time he could've had with his son just to have everything he worked for get thrown away before his eyes. You really can't blame him for going mad, when people are this cruel and uncaring, and then they wonder why people snap
This scene is even more heartbreaking when realizing that Norman Osborn probably sacrificed spending time with his son Harry in the pursuit of building up his company. And you can kind of see that they really do not connect well, in scenes they are both in together -- they are essentially estranged from each other, and do not know each other well. Norman's outburst in this scene, although seemingly over the top, is exactly an appropriate reaction one would feel on the inside, in his position. I get his frustration.
Can’t wait to see Norman Osborn played by the legendary William Dafoe, back in action in Spider-Man No Way Home. Glad he’s coming back and that he reprised his role as the true Green Goblin.
Willem Dafoe is one of the greatest actors we’ve had the pleasure to watch while he’s alive. He just ALWAYS see him give his absolute all in his roles and I hope it’s not unnoticed
The board: “You’re out, Norman”. Green Golbin asked Peter: “Are you in or are you out?” Peter: “It’s you who’s out Goblin. Out of your mind.” Masterpiece.
As a kid this didn't hit home, as an adult I completely understand him and I think i would be tempted to do the same. These people betray him, their personal gain outweighs any sense of loyalty and they fully expect him to give in without a fight. Obviously they are in for a fetal reckoning, a man who losses everything has nothing to lose.
The fact that they kicked the man who started the whole company is fucked up. all that effort and sacrifice for nothing. That literally hits hard on the nuts.
That happens a lot. Had that happen to a major family owned company where I lived. In one a guy married the owners daughter. Owner took him into his family, made him president of the company. But the owner was still CEO, so his son in law convinced him to take the company public. He did. Then he sold the company and divorced the exowners daughter and is now one of the richest men in my state. Another company was started by two brothers, one of which wanted the company to himself, he and a cop friend planted drugs in his car and got him arrested. The brother was willing to put the other in jail for life to steal all the wealth for himself but got caught. Him and the officer that helped him both are in jail. There are people out there that are just evil, they don't care who they screw over to better themselves.
@@PlanetZoidstar Unlikely. He left the chairmanship in 1960 and they didn't even replace him until Roy did it four years later. Too much name recognition I think. Also, I think he and his brotehr still owned most of the stock until after he died.
Y'know what? I gotta say it, the fact that they made Norman Osborn, one of the most unconscionable assholes in all of comicdom, actually sympathetic shows how freaking awesome these movies were. You actually feel bad for the guy, being forced out of his company, forced to take extreme measures to stay aloft, and even forced by his darker insane side to do things he probably would never even think of doing in this universe. A tragic tale all thanks to the Goblin.
I was doing an assignment in one of my college classes just now and just as I was about to turn it in ready to go, the window to submit it closes. I was annoyed and this scene playing in my head.
@@mamstarstorm I've had a similar thing happen to me a few years back, however it wasn't an assignment, it was a fully completed Exam. I had to spend another 2 hours redoing it.
He was best villain of MCU since spiderman 1. But people did not realized it. But after no way home, this man just nailed it and showed everyone why he deserves to be best MCU villain ever. No thanos, not loki.
STFU, the DCEU SUCKS and deserves to be fully REBOOTED. Even Henry Cavill is overrated. Christopher Reeve is STILL GOAT. Now take the L. #DestroyTheSnyderverse
I think there was a time when no one took superhero movies seriously and gave crappy performances... But we got things like Willem Dafoe here, we must be thankful.
William Defoe is an unbelievably, ridiculously talented actor. Just observe the range of emotions he displays both vocally, facially, and with his gestures and overall body language in this short scene alone. Many competent actors could go an entire movie and not come close to matching it.
These guys were the real villains. Yeah sure there is this 50/50 partnership in business enterprise and all that stuff but with the way they handled Norman in this scene was upsetting and I can understand his pain and motivation. He started this company, made billions and these selfish bastards had the audacity to push the guy out. Anyway, they got what they deserved later on. 😂
And he gave up family time and any time with Harry to build that company from scratch. It's literally his life's work and he gave up so many relationships and opportunities to make it this far. To get tossed aside without a second thought after that would make any man angry.
The fact that the board was still selling out to the rival company even after their main sponsor was killed in an "accident" shows that they're not just primarily motivated by money, but to also twist the knife even further into Norman at any possible opportunity. The fact that one of them gleefully sips some tea while kicking out his boss shows that this is more an act of pettiness than pragmatism.
@@MasterChiefSpartan117 Companies are often dictated by shares, the larger percentage of shares you have, the more power you have, boards will typically hire a director to work on their behalf (possibly a shareholder), however, they can remove that director by a vote. Now, I don't know how it is done in America, but from where I'm from, there is protection used to prevent this sort of abuse by shareholders which is recognised by law.
@@MasterChiefSpartan117 opening up your company to the public to have its shares bought by outside entities is something you do if you want to raise funds to expand the company, but this can often lead to you losing control over the company as other shareholders buy more pieces of it
0:27 Surprised (What?) 0:48 Denial (You can’t do this to me) 0:57 Anger (YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!?) 1:03 Bargaining (Oh, Max. Please) 1:13 Depression 1:28 Green Goblin Time (Am I?)
Wilem Dafoe, Heath Ledger and Ian McDiarmid have given some of the best villain portrayals. I think it’s safe to say that they loved those roles and that’s why they were so good at them. Also, none of those villains are particularly my favorite, I just recognize when someone does an exceptional job at playing them.
@@heavymetalfan1167 They would have been fine killing him with their own hands too to get him out if they weren't business suited assholes. They wanted this man broke and out of here. They destroyed his life work. Fuck them.
Right Norman went from “🥺😕🙁” to “😏😈🟢” his smile always made me wanna laugh so hard as hell that it gets me every damn time I watch this movie of the scene that I love him so much 😂😂😂😭❤️💚 1:31-1:32
0:37 The look on his face when he says "Why wasn't I told?" was true disappointment in how disrespect he was by his colleagues. They didn't have the balls to talk to him about HIS company, but were willing to sell it without his consent.
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As a kid I thought he was just the bad guy, as an adult I understood his motivations
Same. I thought he was just evil then I saw his line of thinking, especialy when he tells Spidey no matter how much he does people will find a reason to hate him. It parallels how he did everything for Oscorp and they still gave him the axe.
Same....I've seen my ideas literally used and implemented cast out to the woods. Or people learn I've done decent and they will belittle or disregard my accomplishments.
Makes me want to watch it again
As an adult you became a level 3 Edgelord.
"as kids we love the heroes, as adults we understand the villains."
Norman actually showed the 5 stages of grief in this scene,
0:48 Denial
0:57 Anger
1:02 Bargaining
1:16 Depression
1:27 Acceptance
And then there’s the 6th stage: **puts on Green Goblin’s mask**
*Revenge.*
Haha 😂
then there’s Revenge
😭😭😭
@@Erowax OUT AM I?!
I’m a business owner, and every time I see this scene it reminds me to never let the majority of stock into the hands of others especially people I don’t trust. This is a weird way to learn a lesson but it’s always stuck with me
This scene was a twist for me since every fiction i had seen before usually has the boss with absolute authority
So you're saying this can actually happen in real life? I could never expect an entire body of people would unanimously and selfishly agree to reject the guy who Kickstarted the business for money.
@@Ghostrider-ul7xn yes it sure can its really messed up, a famous example is with Elon Musk and Paypal he was kicked off the board and was forced to sell his shares
@@gagehoover14 man, if being a business owner means people can kick me off of the place that I MADE, then i prefer to be a normie.
@@gagehoover14 I think he was being sarcastic
"In spite of everything youve done for them, eventually they will hate you."
And that's when I don't even think that it's the Goblin talking, it's Norman subconsciously speaking through him
@TMF979Resurge during that scene, his voice goes down a pitch when he says "eventually they will hate you" to where he sounds like Norman for that line
cool deep observation 🥰
See, none of this would have happened had he bought most of the company's shares through various charitable foundations and trusts and so forth... it's all a bit technical but had he done that, his company's future would have been secured.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Yep. The possible end-result of not owning 51% of the company's shares. He became an optics nightmare (associate found dead in a lab within his facility, etc.) so when the opponent's offer was not only generous, but their only stipulation was that the board get rid of Norman, that was a deal too good for them to pass up, especially since they weren't related to him/close to him... the fact that he created the company meant absolutely nothing.
I feel so bad for Norman in this scene. Years and years of hard work are getting destroyed and given to his principal competition. Glad he’s back in NWH
At that level its all ego and petty politics. Needless to say he likely had it coming because he pushed the envelope and the outside powers (Military, Quest Aerospace, and whatever regulating body hampering his human testing) long wanted him gone and not near the pseudo super soldier program. Norman is definitely the type to do whatever he wants regardless of who tells him otherwise including his own son. This may be useful in the early stages of the program because now you have a fall guy incase sh!t goes sideways but its clear Norman was atleast competent enough to not screw up entirely. So they did what dumb complacent rich people do to solve problems, throw money at it and hope it goes away or destroys itself. Without a doubt Norman would have received a very hefty severance pay during the buyout because he had stock in the company aswell. Just not a controlling share.
They were banking on his selfishness/greed to outweigh his pride. But the dude was crazy enough to strap himself to the test table and risk his life to get even. Kinda based when you think about it lol.
The board deserved that skeletizing bomb
@@ATP2555ify A powerful sith you will become.
@@pokeman5000 and a based explanation to back it up. many thanks, king 👑
Agreed, the Board deserved to be turned into skeletons. Especially that smug tea drinking jerk.
“you know how much i sacrificed!!”
that line says a lot. probably had to sacrifice time with Harry and vacations and all the good things that come in life just so he could make it to the top. and for him to be tossed out like nothing and have his company sold. i can see why he did the things he did.
I argee on that comment.
Villain arc
Also how he put himself as the experiment subject
I know saying this is easy but we should never get attached with our employers or employees
It always ends badly
Keeping professional and personal life seperate is today's necessity
Maybe even harry's mother, and how he couldn't spend so much time with her neither.
I don’t think they know how much he sacrificed
caught in 4K🤨📸
...i don't think they cared about how much he sacrificed
Guys, you can't do this to him.
Out is he?
one of those things he sacrified was his relationship with harry
Two decades later with adulthood under my belt, he's a sympathetic character.
Yeah until the part where he starts his genocidal crusade.
@@Gaze73 No, even then.
@@Gaze73he did typical frustrated American shit.
@@Gaze73 Genocide?
@@Gaze73
Jenn O Syde against whom?
Literally every scene in this movie is iconic. This film will truly never get old.
Like Star Wars
Kentut
@@raptornotes8411 Star Wars was amazing but it got old 😬
@@tieronehush I mean it was made in 1977 and things have definitely changed, but nonetheless it is still iconic.
“DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY SACRIFICED!?!?”
Norman: "Do you know how much I sacrificed?"
The board: "We missed the part where that's our problem."
@@venia..4529 wtf
@@venia..4529 Sorry it's still NNN
Rent?
Norman : Out am i ??
The board : 😳
"Am I?"-Norman(Speaking softly)
"What was that?"-Board Member
"Nothing. I'll show myself out."-Norman
Willem Dafoe is such a great actor. He was so good in the first Spider-Man movie and I can't wait to see him again in No Way Home
Out is he?
Sometimes there's a reason why things happen and villains become who they are. I don't always blame them. When you have been stiffed . Especially in the corporate world.
Me too I love him
He really is a great actor i can't wait to see him again too
Gb cb
This scene scared me as a kid, especially when Norman yelled, but now as an adult I really see what's going on, Dafoe is an amazing Actor.
lol how is this scene scary?
@@Landofnothing A lot of kids are trumatized from their parents yelling, that they have PTSD episodes whenever an adult yells.
Yeah same, when he’s angry he can be a bit intimidating.
@@ElBanditoI used to think that this scene was just Norman acting crazy because of the goblin serum, but ig it also scared me a bit as a kid
If we go by the canon of the comics, Norman dedicated his life to holding up the company, corrupted his own morals, focused more time on the company more then his family, regretted how much time he neglected them when his wife died and all that effort and sacrifice to have it all be sold out from under him.
_"You know how much I sacrificed?"_
Norman asked calmly.
"Harry! Harry!
Are you and Spider-man best friends? Hmm!?
Passing notes in class about my plans, huh?"
@@ExcitedAlex Wait I know that quote but can't remember where...
@@diclonius2108 Brace yourself, mate.
ruclips.net/video/IdoD2147Fik/видео.html 😂
@@ExcitedAlex Oh, right. I knew that I saw that phrase before. I just can understand why Albus was so psycho with Harry in that scene. My old dog was a second away of giving Harry a cruciatus.
@@ExcitedAlex ( me, yet to have watched NWH)
👀👀😶
Willem Dafoe is a god tier actor so happy he’s back.
Me too!!! Hehehehe🙌🔥💯💯💯
Who said ?
@Dan Nice
@Dan NWH will be out this week.
He's back! Oh my back.
I love how in this scene, when Norman is saying “Do you know how much I’ve sacrificed”, you can clearly see how upset and how full of regret he is in that he didn’t spend a lot of father/son time bonding time with Harry.
Brilliant acting from Willem Dafoe!
i dont even know how many times i've watched this movie
and that never connected with me
great catch dude
Yeah he put so much emotion in that line its like you can see that he thinks everything is over with
One of the reasons why i don´t want to have kids is because i know i´ll have to work several hours per week and not spending time with kids. Trust me. My parents worked 12 hours from monday to monday. I know what it feels. I struggled with depression and anxiety all my life. I don´t want my kids to suffer the same.
@@1997residente do you ever wonder if your anxiety and depression was rooted from your parents not being around or some other life factors?
@@1997residente sad way of looking at life and giving up. wish you the best i guess
Willem Dafoe got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Now we know how much he sacrificed
Hopefully nobody makes the stupid mistake of taking his Star "Out" from that walk...
He displayed the 5 stages of grief perfectly
Whats the name of the final stage you know the one When he started smiling at the end.
@@alvarowilson5355 Acceptance
That's the point.
@@prettyradhandle No, that was the option 6th stage. Revenge
Yep, that was definitely written in the script!
"as kids we love the heroes, as adults we understand the villains..."
Corny
@@johnbaxton1872.
Not corny.
*Based*
As a kid I love Superheroes.
As a teen I understood the Villains.
But as an adult, Anti-Heroes are more relatable.
Edit: Aka The Punisher.
Scary
@@ryujisusapphire9511
Next step: Antivillains for the win.
The older I get, the more I understand and sympathize with what Norman did. When his company was at the height of its career, those who held stock over his company sold his ENTIRE company to a rival company without even consulting with him about it. The least they could’ve done was told him weeks or months before hand instead of a day in advance especially given the fact that it’s his name on the line and not theirs. They’re literally selling his life’s work in front of him and telling him it’s nothing he can do about it. That’s enough to make a man snap
Agreed
I’m not justifying his actions later on but I can certainly understand why he did what he did.
And at this point, the Goblin was already in him.
Now I get why Musk absolutely refuses to make SpaceX public and regrets doing so for Tesla.
@Awoken777
True. Musk is smarter and a better business man.
@@MrNote-lz7lh*laughs in Twitter/X purchase and cybertruck*
But that's what happens when you take your company public, you lose control, especially if you're not a majority shareholder and so you can be outvoted. While they did sell the company without consulting him, they sold the company at its highest ever valuation. Norman's shares in the company probably went up, so it's not like he walked away with nothing.
2001: American pyscho
2002: spider man
Willem dafoe is a walking art machine.
Don’t forget Finding Nemo.
Boondock saints and platoon
2007:Mr. Bean's Holiday
You forgot Dr. Dolittle
American psycho is 2000
When you realize two of Osborn’s greatest lines start with “You know”
This one is more funnier
Actually, there are 3
@@ajdominguez1002 What’s the 3rd one? Is it in Spider-Man 3 when he says to Harry “You know what you must do. Make him suffer. Make him wish he were dead. FIRST, WE ATTACK HIS HEART!”
@@densereaper I think that I was joking at the time. I honestly forgot
@@ajdominguez1002 Probably in reference to there "There's 3, actually" meme?
Rewatching this scene years later really shows me that Norman wasn't wrong. Loosing everything he's spent his life on
It was quite tight to begin with
Losing*
When I was a kid I thought it was a random shouty scene, now I'm older I see it for the heavy kick in the balls it is
Damn right…
Someone’s gotta show a cable cars worth of kids why upper management sucks
He did what a man must do in such situation
0:48 Denial
0:57 Anger
1:03 Bargaining
1:12 Depression
1:27 Goblin
Beautifully spotted 🫡
He has now entered "goblin mode"
Impressed
@@IllIllIllIllIII ok you know deep boy
Norman doesn’t accept shit. He legit scratched out stage 5 and made his own stage of grief
Spider-Man 1: Best villain
Spider-Man 2: Best story
Spider-Man 3: Best music
Spider-Man 3: Best memes
@Pivot35 Look at little Pivot30 jr. Gonna cry?
And No Way Home?
@@SeriousDragonify I think OP is only talking about the Sam Raimi trilogy, not the other movies
I feel Spider Man 3 takes Best Action, but the other 2 are on point.
So many emotions in just 10 seconds. Willem is such a phenomenal actor
Right!!..it's his unique voice and facial expression that truly makes him one the greatest villan actors
0:57
Not enough people talk about this, but I really love how No Way Home makes Norman so much more sympathetic than he already was, like seriously, you can really see how frightened and helpless he is against his alter ego. It’s just heartbreaking
Every time he was onscreen I had no clue if he was really that scared or if it was the Goblin manipulating them. That idea makes him more scary in my opinion.
@@liamoliver5848 literally was telling my girlfriend the whole time he was on screen like i kept going back and forth between “i think he’s actually scared” and “nah he’s playing dumb right now LOOK”
@@liamoliver5848 literally the same thing they did in this movie.
One of the things he mentioned searching for was his son, i found that cool because i always considered GG and Norman two different personalities and i always believed Norman always loved his son.
He was basically the last person he was thinking about.o
The green goblin is evil, but Norman Osborn is genuinely a good guy
This is where all of the Green Goblin’s morals come from. They come from Norman’s own inner feelings of betrayal, anger, disappointment, and greed, in order to create the alternate self that is Green Goblin. Norman did everything to obtain power the right way, so now that that amounted to nothing in the end, what’s stopping Goblin from obtaining it in his own vile way? This is why he tells Spider-Man he shouldn’t bother doing the right thing for others, because he believes it’ll all end up like it did for Norman, with him having nothing but disappointment, loss, and hatred from others. To him, all that really matters in a world of winners and losers… is power.
Wow. Spot on. Took me decade to understand
And that does technically happens to spidey in the second film
"Struggling to have everything you want, while the world tries to make you choose. Gods don't have to choose. We take."
@@silverrath "Strong enough to have it all. Too weak to take it"
Yup
Willem Dafoe is a criminally underrated actor! How doesn't he have an Oscar
He's been nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Oscar 3 Times (For 'Platoon, 'Shadow of the Vampire' and 'The Florida Project') and a Best Actor Oscar for 'At Eternity's Gate'.
My thoughts exactly. He is FANTASTIC.
At the same time, the "academy" has been in shambles for a long long time, just remember Shawshank Redemption was nominated but never awarded, and we are talking about one the BEST films ever made.
Please do not call a critically acclaimed actor underrated
Hyperbole people…..
Willem Dafoe's acting was phenomenal in this movie. This was one of the first films I ever saw. As a child I didn't fully appreciate his performance as Norman Osborn, but every time I rewatch it, it gets better. There's so much depth to his character that becomes clearer with every watch, very few except Willem Dafoe could have captured that so accurately
Willem Dafoe is such a great actor
William Dafoe was phenomenal in his role as both Norman and the Goblin he stole every scene he was in
Willem drip foe**
@@josiahgonzalez942cringe
@@claymathewselevator8121 yeah in florida project he plays the good man and he does it amazingly too
“You’re out, Norman.”
“Am I?” He asks the Goblin,
and the Goblin smirks.
🥺🙁☹️😏😈🟢😂😂😂😂😂😂 1:31-1:32
He's still not Goblin yet.
@@Meghnaaad no he’s goblin at this point
It’s like that sentence alone triggered the Goblin on the spot.
Green Goblin is the true story , they exist
Imagine getting kicked out of your own company that you helped build and worked your ass off for.
Also Willem Defoe's performance in this movie was incredible can't wait to see him again in No Way Home
Papa John
Legit.
They're selling the company that Osborn built with blood, sweat, and tears - some of it was even his - that has his _name_ on it, the company that _he_ put _them_ on the board to _help_ said company.
And they're like "I know its your company and you're our boss, but we're selling it, and you're quitting in a few days, which should be less humiliating than getting fired by your own employees."
That doesn't really make since though. Norman mentions Oscorp's stock has never been higher, implying that it is a publicly traded company. Being the founder and CEO, I think it is safe to assume Norman is the majority shareholder of Oscorp. If that is the case, then everyone else can sell their shares to Quest, but that doesn't mean Norman has to. Norman can still be the majority shareholder of Oscorp and have the controlling interest in Oscorp, even if Quest buys everyone else's shares.
He would’ve got an amazing payoff though so I dunno why he’s so mad
@@bryan1687 he's msd cuz his employees are selling _his_ company behind his back.
If he cared about a payoff or similar, he wouldve sold the company himself.
Imagine starting a company, watching it grow over the years at the cost of quality time with your family, especially after your wife's death. Eventually, the company reaches its absolute peak yet the board of directors, people you genuinely considered close friends, decided to go behind your back and essentially kick you out of your own company in order to sell your magnum opus to your biggest business rival. All that hard work, all that dedication, all that missed time with your only son, all for it to go to Quest Aerospace.
Whos here after watching Willem Dafoes absolutely AMAZING reprising performance in No Way Home?
Movie was Amazing. A. Fucking. Mazing.
I gotta watch that movie.
Willem Dafoe steals the show.
He got better. Best Spidey movie hands down.
In the new movie he gives me straight up joker vibes
Osborn just sacrificed his relationship with his son to gave the 100% of his time to the company and they literally kicked him off like NOTHING. Gobby did many bad things but killing Oscorp's board wasn't one of them.
Yes it was. If the company meant this much to him he shouldve never sold the majority of the shares. Yes, the board was ruthless when it came to business- and 1 of the members was particularly heartless about it, but they didnt rob him of his life.
@@michaelquire7940 Incorrect.
@@michaelquire7940 but they robbed him of his company, which he put his life to.
@@michaelquire7940 i'm curious and i dont really understand the situations, can you tell me how is it possible for a company to kick its founder like in norman's position? 🤔 why is it legal tho
@@laffein Founder has 100% of the company.
Sells 20% to three different people.
All three people say you aren't making decisions any more.
As a kid, these lines fly over our heads and we see Norman as the villain bc “he bad booo”
Now after being able to understand all of this, we sympathise with him more than anyone
Idk if you couldn’t understand what he was saying as a kid then I worry for your intelligence
@@rebelfriend1818 first of all, not everyone automatically knows the underlying meaning behind corporate business practises at 8
Secondly, fly over our heads not don’t understand
@@rebelfriend1818 That's ignoring that not all watchers have English as their first language.
@@etikhad4754 I meant understand what he meant by his words, not his words. By all means listen in your native language, doesnt change anything
@@rebelfriend1818 why are you trying to come off as smarter than you really are. you’ve the missed the entire point of his original twice already good lord
He was more scary without mask, seriously.
I'm excited that Willem Dafoe is returning to Spiderman No way home as a Green Goblin and that I'll see him again
nous sommes le vrai venom
@@venomlecommuniste9022 бююее
@@venomlecommuniste9022 2
Same here he was fantastic as goblin
2002: You’re out Norman.
(19 years later)
2021: OUT AM I !!!
You can hate him, but you can also understand his motivations.
I could never hate him.
What kind of person can hate this guy
I hate the Goblin, not Norman. They're a split personality.
Honestly the Goblin was too goofy to hate in this movie compared to No Way Home where he was so serious. Norman, however, I’ve always felt bad for him.
Watching this video makes it hard to hate him honestly. It's scary when there's one guy you can't hate that turns evil.
He's more memorable than most villains from the MCU
Well, now he will be one of the villains from the MCU
Well if you give the MCU villains a couple more years I’m sure they’ll be in the same area of remembrance, especially Mysterio.
@@bloxidy8752 hahahahah, no...
Yeah most. Thanos not being memorable though? Doubt. Purple ballsack chin man is kinda hard to forget huh.
Idk I’m honestly a pretty big fan of Killmonger, Ego, Mysterio, Hela, Thanos, Vulture, Winter Soldier, & Wenwu. Goblin was iconic & nostalgic, but the MCU has had some decent villains IMO post-Phase 1 & 2.
"You're out Norman."
Drinks his tea like an evil secondary character.
Imagine that shit thou? You start a company only to be backstabbed by the entire board. That would turn anyone into the green goblin lol
No shit dude. So many people can’t put themselves in someone else’s shoes. People kill people in this world over small drug debts, someone stole there girl, had their car stolen etc…
Imagine building a company, working tirelessly, barely getting sleep, sacrificing so many things that you could have done in life like spending more time with your son, travelling settling down etc… And than in just a short meeting you get told all of that. The point I’m trying to make is to all these people that say “Ohh psychopath because he killed people.”
You wouldn’t know what he’s going through because you’ve never lived that life. And even if you think you can understand what he ls going through, you don’t. You’ve never owned a multi million/billion dollar company. Idk why I’m even going on.
@@JezzaSezza yeah the movie has portrayed more of ruthless goblin than of helpless and desperate Norman
luckily for steve jobs, he got rehired
@@JezzaSezza people keep complain the working class suffer their life, but the truth, the upper class also suffer as well where the company you work hard and few days later it sold to other hands or worst the government. Plus the board members and thier friends backstab you.
He killed the competition though in a previous scene. So his company is thriving from his murders.
0:27 That part always kills me of how Willem asks: “What??”🤣
Okay I know that sounds bad
Mood tbf
@@jaxixteen 💀
I haven’t seen that one before as a meme, yet it has so much potential to be one! Hopefully it is and I just missed that boat. I’ve seen the quote after used plenty, though.
Very subtle but it’s great acting
Honestly, the older I get, the more I appreciate Norman Osborn's character compared to Otto Octavius. The poor guy has just been screwed in every facet of his life that he develops pessimism that the Goblin takes ahold of. He isn't a clear cut good guy, he is definitely flawed. Norman continually has the door closed on him by his friends, his wife, etc. To the point where he is willing to experiment on himself just to keep any shred of importance he might have.
It's truly sad. Otto felt like he was mind controlled but Norman felt like he just needed a hug.
True. Norman is basically pollar opposite of Peter Parker but also shares alot in common with the hero. They are both victims of the harsh and unfair world, with people mistreating them or not recognizing their efforts. The difference is that Peter comes from a working class background and was raised by his Uncle Ben and Aunt May that thought him to learn and adapt to his disadvantages, while Norman is rich successful businessman who takes pride of his career , refusing to admite failure. He is arrogant while Spider man is humble
@@alexandrefrauches132 Im no Tom Holland hater and I even like Garfield’s portrayal and movies but I truly wish people understood why I like Tobey’s much more. You just can’t compare to the original SpiderMan trilogy the storytelling aside from some corny MJ stuff is truly amazing.
@@jeremytoth7635 That's your opnion, I like most of the Spidey movies (except Spider man 3 and TASM 2). The first two Raimi movies are classics and have a great story, but I do belive the two reboots did improve in some points, despite not having same quality for many fans.
@@alexandrefrauches132 Oh noe, Spiderman 3 is goldmine and a gift that keeps on giving. All hail the raise of Bully Maguire!
Otto fell as hard as he did because a simple math error spiraled out of control at the worst possible time
And the arms began to mess with his brain as he began to realize he was essentially responsible for his wife's death
Osborn was a victim of his own pride while Otto was more a case of mis-processed grief
0:48 the scene we all have been waiting for
1:03 When he turns to Max and begs him it is just heartbreaking ….. you can clearly see they were close friends and Norman trusted and cared for him deeply and he expects him to stay by his side but no….. business was always more important and his apology is obviously insincere…. 😞
Fun fact : Tobey Norman finally has Andrew max support.
"Never mix business with friendship"
@@JuanGomez-bs6ue why not?
@@sridrawings4510cuz this happens
@@nickjaxon1317 yeah but still you need to care about them right, you need to be side with them so they won't go in the darker path
0:26 You wait for when Tobey and Andrew will appear but the credits start
0:48 You still wait but there isn't even a after credits scene about Tobey and Andrew
0:56 When the movie is over, the text "I missed the part where thats my problem" appears on the screen
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Mcu troll
@@Mr.Filmaker_Here Ew
😭😭😭
I would be livid and Kevin Feige would be crowned the world's greatest troll lol!!
He apparently begged for this role. The world is so grateful for the casting of this movie. Truly well done. This will always be a great great movie.
Should be the other way around.
I think it was the look on that guy's face near the end when he said "You're out, Norman" that pushed him over the edge and gave him that motivation to kill the board members. Maybe he would have still killed them, but maybe he would have been able to suppress the Goblin if he'd been convinced it was just a business move and they really didn't bear any ill will to him (not that it isn't still fucked). But that guy's demeanor at the end looked almost spiteful, like he enjoyed giving Norman the news that they'd basically destroyed the last however many decades of his life and had no empathy for him at all. When he saw the look on his face, he definitely wanted to kill him specifically
Yeah, the way Henry delivers that "you're out, Norman" and takes such a calm sip from his mug is so hurting
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor It looks like he's some kind of rival that Norman's had for decades and he's just fucked him over in the worst way possible
Henry was the biggest dick about it. They were all assholes, but he was the worst.
Yep definitely and the man who spoke before him was definitely about business he explained it to him and still said he’s sorry
Henry is pretty much the Obadiah Stane in this movie, but a much softer move unlike Obadiah who wanted Tony Stark dead to get his "throne".
"Everybody's making money, people are buying stock, and we have never been in a better position as a company".
"Cool, we're selling and you're fired".
Brilliant businessmen.
I literally just wrote a comment like this
Like imagine throwing away the opportunity to be the *principle* supplier to the US military right as the War on Terror is getting started?
Like what????
typical capitalist
They didn't even give him a gift basic with a 400 dollar Applebee's gift card
@@wilsonweiseng6485 wut
@@superheriber27 they use you and throw you away when they're done, very environmentally unfriendly
That guy, Willem Dafoe, stole the show in no way home. All the actors did a great job but green goblin was on another level. 👏
Yeah well no spoilers please some of us are still looking forward to it haha
@Mr.M that isn’t the stupid part. The stupid part is looking at the comment section of said video
No wonder rumors are on set some actors bow to him before playing the scene.
I feel so bad for this man, he really did sacrifice so much and lost so much precious time he could've had with his son just to have everything he worked for get thrown away before his eyes. You really can't blame him for going mad, when people are this cruel and uncaring, and then they wonder why people snap
psss hey you mr clouding. its called acting lol
@@joeyweston9001 he knows
@@joeyweston9001you're part of the reason why we can't enjoy anything in this world
@@bunnitomoe3866 nailed it
@@bunnitomoe3866bingo
When they do something to you without knowing how much you've sacrificed.
Norman: “You know how much I sacrificed?”
Board: “You should’ve thought of that earlier”
@Bully Maguire they said “c ya chump” 😂
I wanna put some dirt in your eye 👁
Look at little Goblin Jr. Gonna Cry?
want forgiveness? Get religion
Stings, doesn’t it.
This scene is even more heartbreaking when realizing that Norman Osborn probably sacrificed spending time with his son Harry in the pursuit of building up his company.
And you can kind of see that they really do not connect well, in scenes they are both in together -- they are essentially estranged from each other, and do not know each other well. Norman's outburst in this scene, although seemingly over the top, is exactly an appropriate reaction one would feel on the inside, in his position. I get his frustration.
He kinda didn't like him much. He'd prefer a son like Peter Parker. Someone who was a science nerd.
@@bern9642 Despite Peter being influenced by the Symbiote, him telling Harry that Norman despised him and saw him as an embarassment wasn't a lie.
I remember as a kid when he screamed “you know how much i sacrificed!” It scared the hell out of me 😂
Me too I never understood why he got mad lol
@@mev7709 Yep. Me too. But now it makes all sense.
I don’t recall being phased
0:04 I call this painting "Adolfin". It´s a dolphin with my face on it, making it Adolfin."
???
Bro this video was just the last one I Saw on auto-queu 😂😂😂
Lol
I just saw that video few minutes ago before watching this one 😂😂
Because of all video that channel did, i cant watch this scene without crack
Can’t wait to see Norman Osborn played by the legendary William Dafoe, back in action in Spider-Man No Way Home. Glad he’s coming back and that he reprised his role as the true Green Goblin.
Goblin is spider man’s true arch rival
My guess is that he will be the leader of the Sinister Five (From what we know it is Five)
@@professionalgamer6522 from recent trailers they’re making it seem like doc ock is trying to help spider man
Yeah but I think that we are expecing his role and green goblin because we are fans of toby and og spidy
@@BlackOmEga_2099 facts he ain’t my favorite tho The Symbiotes are my favorite
Willem Dafoe is one of the greatest actors we’ve had the pleasure to watch while he’s alive. He just ALWAYS see him give his absolute all in his roles and I hope it’s not unnoticed
My uncle met him 15/20 years back one of his flight journey
Yah and very underrated/underused I would love to see more of him now more than ever.
yeah he got like 5 minutes in Justice League movie and I felt his passion in his short acting
0:26 when you run out of money before the 20th
Can you explain the joke I'm an idiot 😢😂
@@__.4sdhzx.__ oh its the 'whaat' response Osborn gives
@1dustbranch111 ohhhhh ok
It’s been 20 years since Williem Dafoe played Green Goblin in the first Spider-Man film. I can’t wait for his reprise in No Way Home.
Willem*
@@labturtle2978 willam*
@@mrlillywhite8374 willem
@@ENBFroggie willum
@@mrlillywhite8374 willim
The board: “You’re out, Norman”.
Green Golbin asked Peter: “Are you in or are you out?”
Peter: “It’s you who’s out Goblin. Out of your mind.”
Masterpiece.
Green Goblin: Wrong Answer!
@@emmanuelharris6445 Spider-Man: Oh Great!
No one says no to me!
@@emmanuelharris6445Spiderman : I missed the part where that's my problem .
Don’t forget:
The board: “You’re out, Norman.”
Norman (to himself): “am I?”
Green Goblin to the board: “Out, am I?”
This dude was entirely justified in his reaction to this.
Honestly this scene is so unforgettable and it doesn’t involve spider man or any high action. It’s just seeing a man turn into the villain
Just watched No Way Home last night. He still killing it as Goblin. Amazing actor!
I haven’t seen the movie
He even scarier too
I’m assuming it’s either before he “dies” in the first movie or some weird portal brought him there
You're right. Willem Dafoe will always be the ONE and ONLY Green Goblin.
He was absolutely terrifying
As a kid this didn't hit home, as an adult I completely understand him and I think i would be tempted to do the same. These people betray him, their personal gain outweighs any sense of loyalty and they fully expect him to give in without a fight. Obviously they are in for a fetal reckoning, a man who losses everything has nothing to lose.
*Fatal
but what norman dosent get is no matter how many times the man is beaten he is not the loser not when he becomes the green goblin of course😂
And as an adult, you realize that there's No Way Home
I love a movie where the hero and villain are equally compelling
@@ajdominguez1002 a kid
Just remember, we existed in a time to witness this man's incredible acting
Seeing him as Vulko in Aquaman was surreal
The older you get, the more villains become your heroes.
Palpatine and Carnage beg to differ
@@Jackferrett6781Don't forget about High Evolutionary, this dude just wanna play god and change things to fit his view
Not Carnage or Palpatine
@@Jackferrett6781Jack Horner:
Turbo from Wreck it Raplh begs to differ.
The fact that they kicked the man who started the whole company is fucked up. all that effort and sacrifice for nothing. That literally hits hard on the nuts.
That happens a lot.
Had that happen to a major family owned company where I lived.
In one a guy married the owners daughter.
Owner took him into his family, made him president of the company.
But the owner was still CEO, so his son in law convinced him to take the company public.
He did.
Then he sold the company and divorced the exowners daughter and is now one of the richest men in my state.
Another company was started by two brothers, one of which wanted the company to himself, he and a cop friend planted drugs in his car and got him arrested.
The brother was willing to put the other in jail for life to steal all the wealth for himself but got caught. Him and the officer that helped him both are in jail.
There are people out there that are just evil, they don't care who they screw over to better themselves.
I imagine had he lived longer this would have happened to Walt Disney.
@@PlanetZoidstar Unlikely. He left the chairmanship in 1960 and they didn't even replace him until Roy did it four years later. Too much name recognition I think. Also, I think he and his brotehr still owned most of the stock until after he died.
Happened to Steve Jobs, no?
Would have happened to Howard Stark
Y'know what? I gotta say it, the fact that they made Norman Osborn, one of the most unconscionable assholes in all of comicdom, actually sympathetic shows how freaking awesome these movies were. You actually feel bad for the guy, being forced out of his company, forced to take extreme measures to stay aloft, and even forced by his darker insane side to do things he probably would never even think of doing in this universe. A tragic tale all thanks to the Goblin.
0:57
When you study day and night for a college test yet you still fail
I was doing an assignment in one of my college classes just now and just as I was about to turn it in ready to go, the window to submit it closes. I was annoyed and this scene playing in my head.
@@mamstarstorm
Teacher: you're out, Norman
@@mamstarstorm I've had a similar thing happen to me a few years back, however it wasn't an assignment, it was a fully completed Exam. I had to spend another 2 hours redoing it.
XD wait. That actually did happen to me once >:[
The smirk at the end was like " so be it " 🩸🔥☠️
Did you know? Norman Osborn is something of a scientist himself!
I missed the part where that's my problem
I read all his research on nanotechnology, really brilliant
he did mention that, again :D
Even Otto thought of him as brilliant
0:57 Me when Im waiting for food to get done and my mom comes in and I get up and tells me food isn’t ready yet
It's staged
@@SubscriberStatsMY MAN, NO SHIT.
@@SubscriberStatsnahhhhh it’s real and it’s not a movie
That’s why he’s “Willem DaFoe” and not “Willem DaFriend!” Great actor! 💯
badum tsss
The main guy has the audacity to sip his tea in front of someone getting resigned.
He was best villain of MCU since spiderman 1. But people did not realized it. But after no way home, this man just nailed it and showed everyone why he deserves to be best MCU villain ever. No thanos, not loki.
Even with his relatively short screen time, he floored everybody with his performance. Definitely top 5 MCU villains imo, too
I still say thanos is the best but Green goblin is definitely the best out of the solo hero movies.
@@pooch72 hehe, yeah he really floored some people.
Yeah, thank God people are opening their eyes!
Whatchu talking about whiteboy even as a kid I thought he was badass fuck thanos
0:48 Henry Cavil, finding out he's not Superman anymore.
Henry: You know how much muscle I’ve built?
*"YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'VE WASTED ME?!?!?!?!?!?!"*
*"DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH [Witcher role] I SACRIFICED?"*
@@BullyMaguiree 😂
STFU, the DCEU SUCKS and deserves to be fully REBOOTED. Even Henry Cavill is overrated. Christopher Reeve is STILL GOAT. Now take the L.
#DestroyTheSnyderverse
0:26 This gets me every time 🤣
…WAT???
exactly🤣😭
W H A T
Guys, it's scripted and staged
@@SubscriberStats00:26
I think there was a time when no one took superhero movies seriously and gave crappy performances... But we got things like Willem Dafoe here, we must be thankful.
That guy with gray hair and glasses is the real villian in this movie.
And the one in the wheelchair. So fake
@@billyjoecobra2517 Who? You mean the bald guy that told Norman he was sorry after he got kicked out of his own Company?
William Defoe is an unbelievably, ridiculously talented actor. Just observe the range of emotions he displays both vocally, facially, and with his gestures and overall body language in this short scene alone. Many competent actors could go an entire movie and not come close to matching it.
These guys were the real villains. Yeah sure there is this 50/50 partnership in business enterprise and all that stuff but with the way they handled Norman in this scene was upsetting and I can understand his pain and motivation. He started this company, made billions and these selfish bastards had the audacity to push the guy out. Anyway, they got what they deserved later on. 😂
And he gave up family time and any time with Harry to build that company from scratch. It's literally his life's work and he gave up so many relationships and opportunities to make it this far. To get tossed aside without a second thought after that would make any man angry.
@@Blobbyo25 Exactly and that’s how somebody turns into a villain.
Not to mention if it wasn't for Norman starting Oscorp, they wouldn't even be where they were up until they died.
@@thelordofsalem3044 Exactly.
What would you do in his shoes?
The fact that the board was still selling out to the rival company even after their main sponsor was killed in an "accident" shows that they're not just primarily motivated by money, but to also twist the knife even further into Norman at any possible opportunity. The fact that one of them gleefully sips some tea while kicking out his boss shows that this is more an act of pettiness than pragmatism.
Truth
How can they throw him out if he owns the company though?
@@MasterChiefSpartan117 They own the majority stock, meaning they have more power than him.
@@MasterChiefSpartan117 Companies are often dictated by shares, the larger percentage of shares you have, the more power you have, boards will typically hire a director to work on their behalf (possibly a shareholder), however, they can remove that director by a vote.
Now, I don't know how it is done in America, but from where I'm from, there is protection used to prevent this sort of abuse by shareholders which is recognised by law.
@@MasterChiefSpartan117 opening up your company to the public to have its shares bought by outside entities is something you do if you want to raise funds to expand the company, but this can often lead to you losing control over the company as other shareholders buy more pieces of it
As an adult i now realise why villians become villians
I love a movie where the hero and villain are equally compelling
So do I
As kids, we hate the bad guy.
As adults, we feel sorry for the bad guy.
Cliche line. As adults I still hate the bad guys.
More like we understand the bad guy
He’s more broken than evil
As an adult, I still don't justify his actions (mostly), but I do understand where he's coming from.
@@rizkydewansyah6791 he knew the side effects of the performance enhancers and he chose to take the risk.
0:27 Surprised (What?)
0:48 Denial (You can’t do this to me)
0:57 Anger (YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!?)
1:03 Bargaining (Oh, Max. Please)
1:13 Depression
1:28 Green Goblin Time (Am I?)
Goblinpilled
@Diplomatic_1mmunity ultra based
That anger was the Goblin working his way to the top
@@Spanner249 based Goblin
I thought Green Goblin surfaced (briefly) when he went to anger.
1:15 You're out, Norman. ☕️
out am i ???
Wilem Dafoe, Heath Ledger and Ian McDiarmid have given some of the best villain portrayals. I think it’s safe to say that they loved those roles and that’s why they were so good at them.
Also, none of those villains are particularly my favorite, I just recognize when someone does an exceptional job at playing them.
Alfred Molina?
@@ДЖОКЕР-в8ш I’m talking about villains who were psychotic. Doc Ock was just trying to finish an experiment with the best intentions.
How about Michael B Jordan
Now we can add Homelander's actor to the mix.
James Earl Jones?
As a kid i thought he was evil, as an adult i realized he was right and they deserved what came to them
They were dicks but you're a psychopath if you think it's okay to kill them
@@heavymetalfan1167 its a movie dont get to dramatic of course id hate this in real life🤣
@@heavymetalfan1167 They would have been fine killing him with their own hands too to get him out if they weren't business suited assholes. They wanted this man broke and out of here. They destroyed his life work. Fuck them.
@@heavymetalfan1167 the only psychopath here is you.
Unless you can read their thoughts shut up
That smile in the end was enough for the Board members to know they’re fucked 😂
Right Norman went from “🥺😕🙁” to “😏😈🟢” his smile always made me wanna laugh so hard as hell that it gets me every damn time I watch this movie of the scene that I love him so much 😂😂😂😭❤️💚 1:31-1:32
OUT, AM I!?
I understand completely where he’s coming from. When you reach such a high place, so many sacrifices are made.
0:37 The look on his face when he says "Why wasn't I told?" was true disappointment in how disrespect he was by his colleagues. They didn't have the balls to talk to him about HIS company, but were willing to sell it without his consent.
It's staged
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This was the first major superhero movie made during my lifetime. Blew my mind as a kid..still timeless!
First one I saw as a kid at 5!
@@andrewburgemeister6684 First one I saw at age 9 or 10
0:56 that change from a goofy smile to a anger filled outburst gets me
Poor Norman. He wasn't always bad. He was just broken.
I've waited 19 years to see this man back as Osborn
the wait was worth it
He was amazing in this movie and he took it to another level in NWH. He was even more menacing in that film!
"Out am I?" One of the greatest lines in the movie.
Not the sip of coffee at the end to add the insult to injurryyyy 🤣🤣🤣
Only legends remember this scene
Then I must be a legend
The original trilogy has its charm
Agreed!
Yep I’m a legend!
I am legend 😂