Size does matter!! The 390 F is stationary due to maintenance, but the trucks still gotta roll..
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Stepping in with a 352 F for the 390 F, to keep the trucks rolling and to maintain some production, at a road project south in Norway.. Someone told me, that a 352 was able to load as much rock as a 390..🤪 Can't say I agree..😅 I'm used to load 772's with 4 to 5 passes in just over a minute.. Take the time on my loading cycles here and try to count number of passes with the 352, and tell me this is as fast as a 390 F can be! Or not..😄
My calculations tells me that we load and haul up to 700 tons/hour, with the 390 F I'm loading at a pace of 1600 - 1700 tons/hour!
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The 352F has the right bucket for that job. In a quarry next to me they have a 352F too and changed the Hitachi ZX 870 now with a CAT 390F. You can watch on my channel that 352F loading a 775G dump truck... oh man...
Hehe, I would like a other bucket for loading rock..😉 I feel the machine loses to much breakout force due to the length of the bucket, at the same time it is so narrow that I feel everything is sliding of the bucket when I start to turn toward the truck...🙈😄 But, it is very nice for service works like digging ditches, clearing the rock face, excavating roots and stuff that is hard to get a hold on! These 352's are used in various operations, so it's ok with tools that have a wide variety! 🙃
I will have a look at the video you refer to!👌😁
@@norwegianearthmovers You didn't have diiferent tools on site? Have a nice sunday!
We only have these types of bucket to out 50 tons excavators.. We do have buckets without teeth for stripping rock for blasting, but everyone are of the same brand! Easy when every machine has the same type of quick coupler and can just grab a bucket when needed!
Thank you, I wish you a great Sunday as well!🙂
I just realized that this is mostly limestone being loaded and handled. I like seeing blasted limestone loaded, I'm guessing that it's easier to dig and handle? Now since this limestone, do send this to the crusher to be made into cement? I can watch this all day. Good sound quality. Keep up the good work
Hehe, this wasn’t limestone, im actually not sure about the type of rock at that project..😅
I was stepping in for the 390 here, loading trucks that hauled rock to a D 8 T dozer, as I’m feeding these days! 😋😄 Keep watching, I really appreciate your deep dive in my professional history!🙏🤗
Me gustan las cañas del precorte.Buen barrenista.👍👍🙋♂️🙋♂️
Jeje, una buena plataforma de trabajo es crucial para poder hacer bien el trabajo! 😅👍 Al menos hago todo lo posible para ser estable y bueno ... ¡Es gracioso que estés en el camino correcto a través de mis videos! yo quien soy! 🙂
Muy bien.😂😂👏👏👏🙈
@@JoseAlvarez-ik4mt muchas gracias! 🙏😅
Awesome you have the best job in the world, you have the best sit down job lol lol in the world. You get to move rock all day loading it on trucks keep it up I see in the description something about 700 tons I think that’s what I read. Keep it up
Thank you, my friend!🙏 Hehe, I didn’t feel lucky at all back then, when the 390 on site broke down..😝😅
This 352 is way to small for the 772’s, almost worked my ass off to keep them rolling..😂
But I do love my job!😋
I wish this video should be long. I would like to watch the video in which you load the whole pile of rocks
the bucket at the start I knew this will take a while lol!
Hehe, that was exactly my thoughts as well, when the 390 needed maintenance..🙈😅 It works for a while to keep the wheels rolling, but it nearly kills me to load these haul trucks with such a small machine..🙉🤪
The 374 is small enough, but a little better than the '52, able to load the trucks in 7 to 8 passes instead of 10 to 12..🙈😅
Good job
Thank you very much!🙏🙂 Well, I am actually not sure about the kind of rock that was on that site. There’s a lot of granite and quartz in south eastern parts of Norway, but this sit was on the south tip of Norway. I’m not sure at all, but I think that it could remind me of “gneiss”, as I had worked with gneiss before. But I’m not sure..😅
Thanks for watching and for being curious!🙏
@@norwegianearthmovers i dont know how and when i became addicted to watch videos like mining, loading rocks etc.
@@yasmeenbegum8682 hehe, does it even matter?😄👌 I’m just glad to be able to show something interesting enough, that you want to see what I’m doing!🙏
The cycle times on the 352 seems to be faster though. That's a quick machine.
Oh, yeah it’s much faster than the 390!🥵😅
That results in me, twice as tired due to twice as many cycles a day..🤪
But, it did an amazing job, now all these E and F series are gone from my company, and replaced by even faster and stronger 352 Next Gen’s!🙃
Eso se llama preparar bien una plataforma para poder trabajar bien.Eres un crak tío.🙈😂🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️👍
Hi Bill, would love to see you beside or in front of the bucket, the max reach and tonnage because, most of us, the machine or the dumper # means didly squat.
One more info,, what is material you're removing for?
Thanks.
Hi!🙋♂️ Well, there are footage of me in and next by the bucket and machine in other videos, prior and after this video!😅
This machine weighs close to a 100 tons. The bucket holds 6,5 cubic meters of mass, and the machine have a reach of about 13 meters with this Mass Excavation setup!🙂
Thanks for your curiosity!🙏😊
So you got through this project with the smaller bucket 😆. I read in your description something about 1500 tons per hour, do I have that right? Wow with that size bucket, I'm guessing that you had to make a lot of trips to the hall trucks. I would even say that if you had a bigger bucket, that maybe you could increase the per hour count to 1800 to 2000 tons per hour who knows huh 😆. Keep up the good work
Hehe, this was just a guest artist task, as I was waiting for a new project for my 390..😅 Was only here for two shifts, the first one 3 months earlier than the shift I was filming this, and this one..😄 Had an old 349E the first shift, and had this 352 F this turn! Jepp, the bucket is small, but a 50 ton excavator doesn’t handle our materials with any larger buckets..🤪 Heavy and hard materials, you know!😂
Jepp, I wrote something about production on a 390 compared to this one! I might add that the 390 won’t handle any larger buckets than we already have either..🥵😅
I nearly exhausted myself trying to hold these trucks rolling back then, 11 to 14 passes per load is insanely hard to do fast 12 hours a day, for 7 days!😝😄 I van manage to load between 500 and 700 tons per hour with a 352, and up to about 1600 tons per hour with the 390!😅 Some difference huh?😂
Hello brother I wish we can see you operate an Cat 6090 FS in the future❤️
Hey!🙂 Well, larger equipment gives one something to dream towards, but if I'm going to get the opportunity to operate something that big, I will have to leave Norway to find one..😅 Well se what happens in time, but for now I am settled with what I have!😉
Excellent videos no boring music to listen to just the sound of the rock material hitting the truck bed, will this be crushed and made into gravel or road base material?
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What type of rock are these?
The 352 absolutely can load as much rock as the 390, no question. It just takes a lot longer.........🙃
Haha, you are right about that!😅👍 Twice the time actually, and twice as much effort from the operator..😝😂
Management points at the average production between sizes sometimes, but keeps forgetting that a 390 needs over twice as much materials available to keep the average up..🤪 When loading with a 352, there is sufficient with one drill rig to keep feeding rock, with the 390 I need 3 large rigs!😄
The main issue when it comes to larger equipment, is better haulroads, larger and several more places to dump materials, more equipment to make ready the blasts - to get higher frequencies of the blasts!😄
On narrow sites, a 352 can be more efficient than a 390 because of lack of space, and the 390 won’t load any faster when waiting for trucks or more materials..🤪😅
My best shift (14 days) with the 390 is 140 000 m3’s in a large quarry with full flow, my best ever with a 352 was about 75 000m3’s..😅 Some statistics to bring to the table, for planning ahead!🤪😄
@@norwegianearthmovers It is truly amazing at all of the variables that you need to exam to determine which equipment is the most economical on a job site, especially in mining! You just mentioned a few but there must be so many more variables but the common denominator is downtime kills profits. Doesn't matter if you're sitting on a 390 waiting for a haul truck or material. But at the same time, you don't want too small of equipment or you are missing cycles. In your industry, the P&L is really having the right equipment for the right job. That is why I'm grateful that I get to bid our work (although 90% of our work I negotiate) and hire a contractor to do it. Thanks for the great insight and Happy New Year!!!!!
@@rockkitty100 no doubt about that!😄 We do have a lot of different equipment, and the large ones are meant for the big blasts! The challenges comes up when we enter narrow parts of the projects, and it’s then these statistics seems to be brought up..🤪 At a project with 200 - 300 men, there will sometimes be some struggles, but the smaller machines will keep up production since they don’t handle that amount of materials. The 390 will suffer fast, if blasts get smaller than planned, or it suddenly gets difficult to maintain maximum ability to process the materials at the reception! Without a 390, we wouldn’t be able to push production that hard when we do get to it, so it is a pretty heavy burden on those who does the planning, both in equipment and in the project!😄
For me, all these factors makes the job interesting and fun, to participate in overcoming obstacles or issues - finding alternative methods and ways to push forward, and to find the optimal combination of machines at site do get the job don profitable!😁
Not an easy job, and sometimes the decisions are taken way above me! But those times I’m included, I really gives all to be a part of the solution!!😅
Happy new year to you as well!✨✨🍾 Thank you too, for the discussion and for your thoughts!🙏😋 I really enjoy debating with people that understands the game!!
Awesome footage even tho the bucket is not that big but the job gets done. I wonder if this rock and dirt was sent to a crusher to be made into gravel or road base material??
Will you be getting a new cat 395 when it becomes available ? Great vids.
Hi!🙂 Well, only time will tell..😅 I'm assigned to one of our 3, 390 F's. Mine has roughly 7200 hours now, it will probably be close to 8000 hours in October when it turns 3 years old. I'm guessing that we will keep them until 12-13000 hours, then we'll see who gets a new one, and what it will be!😉 The market runs what we buy, it depends on what kind of projects we have in the future! We also have 4 374 F's, so we have a rather large capacity at earthmoving! 😉
Thank you for watching!
Maybe if you had bigger bucket on 352 F the same size that's on the 390 F enjoying the video's from Australia 👍🏼🇦🇺😃
Hehe, I do dream of a bigger bucket on this one, but I don't think the 352 would handle a 8,5 ton heavy 390 bucket..🤪😅 However, a 3,2 m3 - instead of this 3 m3 would be nice, allowing me to load the trucks in 8 passes instead of who knows how many it takes now..😆
Thanks for your comment, and thank you for enjoying my videos! 😁🇧🇻
Yes, this video shows how fast machine is, also a lot more movement to operator. You must be beat by days end.
Yeah, 12 buckets on truck @19.07
Looked like 10 would do it but hard to judge on vid. Two more fit with ease!
@@digndurt6936 Aaahh, a day in this is quite exhausting indeed...🥵🙈😅 I would never survive an entire shift at two weeks at this tempo!😄 6 days was quite enough, but I am so weird that even though I finally got to load smaller ADT's in the end, I kept on about the same pace further on..🤪😆
@@digndurt6936 10 to 12 passes are way to much for my taste and preferences..🙈😅 If you search my channel, you will find me in a 352 F XE, with another - way better - bucket that would load these trucks in 8 passes!😉 Not my choice of bucket on this machine, I would always choose a shorter and wider bucket, that supports breakout force instead of suppressing the machines power outlet! Just love the Cat bucket on my 390, I am really looking forward to unite with my machine on a larger industrial site this fall! 😋
At least you're not stuck with a 3 ton mini lol,😁 our big daddy Hitachi 870 threw a rod out of the engine😣😥 so the 320 is filling in for now.
Hehe, I guess I'm lucky at least having a 352..🤪😆 In a mini, I think I would have need for both physical and psychiatric help by now...🙉😅
Oh, that's sad!🙈 Hope the 870 will be on its tracks again soon.!😜 A 320 is a bit less productive, my condolences to the operator 🥵😄
@@norwegianearthmovers Haha, it's not too bad we'll have a new big machine tomorrow, we were working with a small skeleton crew for touching up the draw roads and stuff.
Hi, excavator look like faster.. good job, each move is made with a great précision.. very nice vidéo to watch.. what consumption rate for this cat 352 and bucket capacity?
Hey!🙂 Yes it's a lot faster than the 390F, since it has half the weight and size..😅 Thank you for a kind comment!
This machine has a 3 m3 bucket from a company called "Klepp". I don't know exactly the consumption rate for this machine since I have only operated it for 3 days.. But the one I had before I started to operate the 390, had a consumption at around 55 litres/hour. Quiet thirsty, but yet it produces its fare share during a day. In this video, I guess we load and haul between 600 and 700 tons/hour, moving around 12 tons of rock per litres of fuel!
If you have a look at some of my older videos at my channel, I operate a 352 F XE with a red boom! This one was full of new specs, like the same electronic hydraulic as 374 and 390's have! This made the machine even more efficient, with a consumption of only 32 litres of fuel per hour, moving up to 16 tons of material per literoffuel!!💪 That one had a 3,2m3 bucket from a another producer called Gjerstad, allowing me to fill both semi trucks and ADT's much faster with fewer cycles! 👌😋
Yeahhh great.. thank you very much for this precisions.. you operate the Cat machine so easily.. very pleasant to watch.. haha ;)
@@terahitiarii thank you for your kind comment, it is messages like this that inspires me to share these videos! 🙂 Must admit reading this gives a sense of pride, I'm just grateful that my way to work is appreciated! 🤗
Is that a one piece front windshield? Or can I just not see the bottom part due to the angle
Yes, it's one piece! We don't use those separated windshields, never opens them on machines this size anyway! 😅 It is also a blast proof windshield - Hammerglass - designed to outstanding the blastwave of 3 kg TNT at 3 meters range! The one closest to me is 22 millimetres thick, and the wear glass on the outside is 4 millimetres 😉
Hæhren driver vel fullt oppi Svalbard nå, men vet du noe om hvordan det er å få seg arbeid opp dit? Har lurt litt på å starte hos Hæhre innen graving, så hørtes det veldig arti ut å reise til Svalbard nå som dei driver der.
Men hvis jeg vil starte hos Hæhre, hva slags gravejobb blir det da? Er det mest lastejobbing med større maskiner?
Hei!🙂 Joda, vi har en styrke på Svalbard vi nå ja!
Artig å høre at arbeid i Hæhre frister da!😃 Må bare anbefale deg å gå inn på vår nettside, finne utlyste stillinger og dermed søke! Ligger det ikke ute noen stilling som maskinfører, så er det en egen post der som heter åpen søknad!
Hva du evt ville få av arbeidsoppgaver, grunner jo ut i evt ferdigheter du har da!😉 Her har vi hjulmaskiner, og ellers beltegravere fra noen og 20 tonn og opp til 100 tonn! Mange arbeidsoppgaver som utføres, dette er jo noe du i tilfelle må bli enig med ledelsen om ved en evt ansettelse!
Takk for svar!
Har kjørt for det meste 12-25 tons gravere. Men har fått lysten til å prøve 40-100 tons gravere en del, Eller drive med bergsprenging. Tok maskinførerfagbrevet i fjor, så kan drive litt mer fritt da :)
Vet du hva slags arbei de driver med på svalbard? Vet bare at det er rydding, men er det mye graving og dumperkjøring? Så en video at de flytta ein Cat D11 ikkje lenge siden.
Hehe, det skulle bare mangle..😉 Gratulerer med fagbrev da! Vel, hvilke maskiner en evt blir satt på, bestemmes av faglederen for maskiner. Man får en maskin etter hva som bedømmes som riktig etter evner og erfaring, så får man jo se om en rykker opp i størrelse med tiden!😉 Jeg begynte på en 352 her, så fikk jeg spørsmål om å ta over den ene 390en da behovet meldte seg, og de hadde fått et inntrykk av hva jeg kunne være god for!
Vel, har ikke så mye detaljer om hva som skjer på Svalbard, men vet at de ripper og laster bort veier og plasser som har vært bygget i løpet av gruvedriften! 😋 Det som håndteres er snø og tæle, alt skal tilbake føres til hvordan det så ut før alt begynte! Er noe riving av installasjoner også, men om vi gjør det selv eller engasjerer andre vet jeg ikke..😉
Takk for det! Gikk ganske lett på prøva.
Det trengs en del erfaring med lasting for å sitte i en 390, så den skjøna e godt. Blir sikkert enig med faglederen for maskinan e ska bruke.
Hadde vært veldig tøft å blitt med i Svalbard, så vi får se.
Vet du hvor mange hæhre folk det er i svalbard?
Er det 14-14 rotasjon der, og er det 14-14 generellt alle jobba?
Takk for svar, god hjelp å ha :)
@@RyanPolaren hehe, skal man ha skikkelig flyt til enhver tid, så er det en fordel med nok erfaring ja!😅 Ja, det er sånt en evt må vurdere med tiden!😉
Er ikke helt sikker på hvordan de jobber eller hvor mange de er nå, men da vi begynte der i fjor så var det rundt 60 mann fordelt på to skift. Det meste går 14-14 generelt ja, bare at det oppe var det to skift på jobb samtidig og overlappet hverandre så maskinene gikk 24 timer i døgnet. Vil tro det er noe av det samme nå, rundt 15 mann dag, tilsvarende natt! Kan være at jeg tar feil, men var sånn de gjorde i begynnelsen ihvertfall 😅
Im also loading with 352F. I like it . But now my machine is to small and they ordered a Volvo EC 750 for me
Hi! Ah, I understand that you currently are very excited about what's coming!🙂 What kind of applications do you work in? You will experience a great difference I believe, going up like that! I feel a massive difference of breakout force and efficiency between this and the 390! (374 is also more powerful) One must experience the difference one self, even though the buckets get bigger in a larger excavator, they just handles them better!👌
@@norwegianearthmovers i am loading rocks in a quarry. But they ordered the machine with short stick an short boom. What do you think about that ? Im not sure if that was smart solution
@@pettermartinsen6138 I guess you will be surprised about the reach of the short boom and stick! 😉 I have this ME application on my 390, as well as I have been operating a 374 with the same reach! I prefer short equipment and large bucket since it gives me more capacity, but then again, everybody has their own preferences! I'm pretty sure you will get the same reach as your 352 has, and after getting used to it, I think that you won't miss the 352 or think about how far you reach! 😉
Pretty frustrating to go down in size right? ;) Moving to an even bigger machine is more fun haha, but still the 352 is a huge machine in my opinion
Hehe, it is a difference indeed, but as long as it's temporary it is ok!😉 This shift is a crossover while my 390 gets maintained and transported to another project, so I got sent to this project to run this 352. Suddenly the 390 on this project had to stop as well, so suddenly I was put here to load these trucks as well..🤪 This machine is great as well, but gets a little too small beside these 772's I think, but later on I guess I will have other operations to attend to!🙃
Fy faan du er jammen maskin på lastingen. Er vel ikke mange som laster så fort med en 352. Ellers bra videoer🤙🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hehe, dette var jo en hyggelig kommentar! 😉 Gjør så godt jeg kan da vettu, har en underliggende kubikkfeber hber gang jeg får spaker i hendene..🤪😅 Tror nok ikke jeg er alene om å kunne laste jevnt, men det er nok ikke så mye mer å hente ut av maskina enn hva som gjøres her..🙃 Annen skuff og XE maskin vil nok være litt raskere, men det blir jo en helt annen 352..😄
Takk, er morro når hva jeg viser settes pris på!😊
Hey, awesome video. What kind of rock is this?
Hi!🙂 Thank you!🙏😋 To be honest, I don’t know what type of rock that was..😅 I think that the rock had similarity with “gneier”, that google called it..😄 I worked with that some years ago, think it looked and felt about the same!
Ok cool. Thanks for replying. Looking forward to some new content. 💃💃🤸♀️
you maximise efficiency by loading with the pattern and set up you work, cant do any better than that and it would help the numbers of the smaller machine just like it does the larger machine, at a construction job near me they are happy with 1000 m3 per hour from there PC2000!
Hehe, 1000 m3’s is around my daily goal, so a machine twice as large should probably chase a little higher goal?😄 It is however difficult to to say anything about why, there could be safety reasons that can slow the production down as well..?🤪
There has been sometimes that my production has been affected by safety measures as well, I have had some shifts where I was forced to work in other ways and lost a lot of productivity due to working with other techniques..
However, I have had to adjust my goals a bit on this new project.. At my last, we had very fine rock, that really would fill the bucket wide up! We loaded and hauled about 1000m3’s every hour when loading the trucks in four passes!!🤩
It takes about 15 seconds longer to load in 5 buckets, so even with slightly larger loads, it is harder to achieve the numbers I like..🤪😅 I guess we now average about 700 to 900 m3’s by the hour, on this site!
Thank you so much for your kind review, I must say that what you write flatters me!🙏😊 Techniques are important when it comes to every machine in every size, it is very nice that what I do, gets recognized!!🤗
@@norwegianearthmovers do you have a FB page or instagram?
Hehe, I see that I have answered for wrong machine, when it comes to numbers..🙈😅 I have been working with so many machines this year, that it’s not easy to keep track anymore..😝😄
But we did chase out between 3 and 400 m3’s by the hour with this tiny thing🤪
@@norwegianearthmovers i figured you meant 1000/hr with the 390, no way a 352 will do that!!
@@Gavin84w 😅 Exactly that sentence, proves the fact that you know what is possible and for real!👌😁
Nice video Bro Cat 772g ton?
Thank you! 🤗 More coming up with the 390 my next shift!👌 I'm operating this 352 this period while my 390 is maintained and transported to a new project, to load soil, gravel and clay on Doosan DA 40's!
The 772's weigh about 45 tons, and loads around 50 tons!🙂
I like to see gravel and blasted rocks loaded of course with no music lol. Bring it on
Digger videoane dine, ser fram tel å byne tel høsten😎👍
E slutter skolegangen om få veker, blir gått å komma seg ut tel arbeidlivet👍
Tusen takk! 😊 Setter virkelig pris på at hva jeg viser faller i smak!🤗
Oi så artig da! Blir du en ny en i gjengen etterhvert altså? 😃Velkommen til A- laget ihvertfall!
Skjønner godt at det blir godt å komme fra skolebenken, var akkurat sånn selv jeg i min tid!🤪😅
@@norwegianearthmovers yes, blir ny lærling fra august av😁trur kanskje jeg skal til Mandal😎 kanskje vi sees engang👍 fortsett å lage videoer 😊detta er artig😁👍
Det blir spennende da!😁 Både mtp hvordan du vil trives og hvor du ender opp!😋 Ekstra spennende blir det jo å reise sånn bort, men det er et supert miljø og mye morro sammen med mange bra folk!😊 Velkommen skal du være, om du kjenner meg igjen på et av prosjektene er det bare å ta tak i meg!😉 Mvh Bernhard
@@norwegianearthmovers takker og bukker😁dette blir morro 😊jeg huker nok tak om jeg treffer på deg jeg veit du😎👍
Mvh Fredrik
Part 2 video cat 390f cat 772g
Mandalskrysset?
Jepp!😄 Kjentmann altså?
Norwegian Earthmovers ja er lærling på skift 1
Skjønner!🙂 Artig at du tok en titt da! Hva jobber du med på skift 1 da?
Norwegian Earthmovers d6 skal over på 323
@@carlgustafemilmannerheim9360 så artig da!😃 Kjørt graver før også, eller blir dette første gang i ilden?🙃 Morro med noen forandringer da, og så får man jo også mulighet til å finne ut av hva en foretrekker å jobbe med! Enklere å velge hva en vil drive med på heltid da! Brått kjører du en av de større du også, om ikke du velger noe annet da..! 😉
Bucket too small