"Yeah but can they write a song?" ..... I dunno... Can they play the drums? ... How well do they make pasta? This video is only about how fast they can play that's it.
I'm that John Taylor you mentioned, and no, I did NOT play FOTB at 600 bpm. What Guinness said I did is WRONG. I never played that fast, and nobody can. Did I try? Yes! I relied on Guinness to verify what I actually played. I was hoping to get the 400 bpm I tried (which I also did NOT do). Count my pick strokes in those videos and you'll see I did not play fast enough. In the original performance to break the record you can see I no longer pick fast enough past 300 bpm. The fastest I've officially been clocked at is in a video Troy Grady (Cracking the Code) did with me, and it was at 24 notes per second on a single string, which is a LOT different than playing all over the fretboard. 24 notes per second is a FAR cry from the supposed 40 notes per second Guinness said I did. That fastest guitar player world record is and was an absolute joke, and shame on me for thinking I even came close to those absurd speeds. I'm embarrassed by that record nonsense, and now do my absolute best to focus on accuracy instead of speed, and preach accuracy above speed to my students all the time.
Imagine my shock. In Memphis on business and stumbling into a club for Shawn Lane's "Powers Of Ten" release party. It bordered on a religious experience.
Roy's a very interesting dude. Got to speak with him several times and his philosophy around his techniques and way of living is very refined. Dude has everything down to a science and his practice schedule is insane. Man barely gets any sleep. Nice chap.
They definitely are, and Paul Gilbert in his younger years definitely would be able to make this list on a Mark consistent basis. Jason Becker was different in that he had this mastery of sweeping that was second to none. That would be a whole other area of study, and this one I am tackling just pure speed picking. But you're right all three phenomenal players
Hey Brother, long time, no see. This is GREAT!!! I love shred, although, I did have to turn down my shredding a bit & play more melodiclly, due to a bad case of 'A-Fib', my heart rate would speed up to 140-150 BPM's , and was literally just sitting down resting, so not only did I have change my diet, but also my activity. I did a test with my Kardia Mobil app, after my intense picking exercise, my heart rate would speed up, it got so bad that I had to cancel my New Year's day gig this year ( 2024). So I hope all these guys don't ever have to go through this because it will definitely change you. Still, this is a GREAT video!!! Rock On Brother & God Bless.
Wow Dave!! I'm freaking floored man - I had no idea that it could actually have that effect. I'm glad to hear that you were able to one be healthy that's the number one thing and two that you could still be jamming. And of course you've got a serious lock on the melodic as well so no doubt it doesn't matter what you're doing that guitar is going to sound amazing in your hands. But it is really quite freaky how the heart is tied to what we are doing. You get so vested in playing that literally the entire body gets involved. Fascinating and scary at the same time. Thanks for sharing that with me brother I hope you stay healthy! God bless 🤘🤘
Also, honorable mention to Michael Paouris. His playing is absolutely absurd. I'd even go so far as to say he's our modern day Shawn Lane, though he's primarily an acoustic and classical music performer. His speed is absurd, his phrasing is incredible, and his endurance is nothing like I've ever seen. He's truly remarkable and deserves a video of his own.
Loved fast players when I was young. I still listened time to time. Those Rusty Cooley instructionals were top of the top in terms of technical and speed.
He really is, though man it's hard to find a decent recording of him just by himself. Most are very low quality unfortunately but the playing certainly comes through
Vinnie Vincent didn't play sloppy...not even more sloppy than most of the others here when they play fast...he just has a much harder picking and plays completely different scales...not just pentatonics, but also a lot of jazz and country or bluegrass stuff...most people just don't understand it because they mostly only know the neo-classical stuff from Malmsteen or Paul Gilbert or others! Whether you like Vinnie or not...he is one of the pioneers of the early 80s when it comes to fast guitar playing in rock music, that's a fact, because Vinnie had already played very fast solos in his shows in 1982 and 1983 on the Creatures of the Night and Lick It Up Tour with Kiss...that was a year before Malmsteen came out with the band Steeler...
@@TheThomasTomsenPage Live he sounds like a kid who bought his first guitar 3 days ago, and tries to play as fast as possible. Aside from the sloppy playing, there's zero phrasing. It does not sound good at all.
Vinnie could actually play quite well when he wasn't trying to be super fast. He lacked the control and hand synchronization that it takes to play clean at high speeds.
Shawn was double jointed in both hands.. So was his sister Mitzi. Shawn was just wired differently. People think its all about hours of practice.. Wrong. He was an Anomaly.. A once in a lifetime Phenomenon♥️
Vinnie Vincent rules! All that crazy stuff he does still impress me everytime I heard it. Using that crazy chicken picking stuff during the fast solos it's impossible to replicate. That guy was a genius!
Agreed I'm so glad your giving respect to shawn who is just amazing I learned his 5 string hammer on technique absolutely no pull off going to the lower notes instead of high ones nothing like sweep picking but you get it fast there are seriously millions of different things you can do with it in any scale because it's all hammer ons it has a smooth sound that people will confus thinking it's sweep but its not you actually pick 3 times every 2 strings just fucking amazing the way shawn did was insane super long reach but for me the technique changed so much of my shred playing it's not something I do all the time but I still love to shred sometimes and shawn was the best
@@cooljp1531 That’s not a fair assumption, people made that same assumption about Bucket himself. Michael Romero writes some great neoclassical stuff, and SHAWN LANE is literally Buckethead’s favorite musician ever, he is a WONDERFUL composer AND melodic improviser
Definitely, and bucket heads interesting approach adds so much intensity to it that a lot of these players have to work hard to get. Buckethead is a natural
man! shaun Lane was an insane guitar player... speedy, full of technique and great phrasing and feeling when playing! Guitar world lost one of his most valuable soldiers when he passed away... DEP Shaun.
Vinny played a ton of chromatic stuff. At least the other guitarist you mention, especially Randy, played beautifully. He used speed like Composers use speed. To tell a story.
An honorable mention goes to ROBERTO BARROS. The guy plays insanely fast with the most economy of movement I've ever seen. His work with Edu Falaschi is out of this world
That bit about Shawn Lane was SO perfect. He played fast as shit ONLY because he was passionate, and not because of ego. So many people get that shit twisted. I can not stand snobby-ass, jealous assclowns who down other players just because they suck compared to them.
Bam - you said it right there bro. That's exactly how I feel about a lot of these people who slam those players. It's kind of weird because if they were really making the point about enjoying slow playing more, there would be more substance to their arguments. But yeah - you totally nailed it man!
You mentioned Vinnie Vincent in the same sentence with those other names and made me spit my drink everywhere. Blasphemous at the very least. To focus on the speed misses the whole point of the greats when they light it up. Most super fast guitarist sound horrible, and most can't wait to turn it off.
Whether you like Vinnie or not...he is one of the pioneers of the early 80s when it comes to fast guitar playing in rock music, that's a fact, because Vinnie had already played fast solos in his shows in 1982 and 1983 on the Creatures of the Night and Lick It Up Tour with Kiss...that was a year before Malmsteen came out with the band Steeler...
Haha Man you got me..... Because he really gets that hand moving back and forth extremely fast, and somehow it works for him. Totally went across the grain in terms of when they talk about minimizing movement. I wish I could tell you honestly man but I can't.... Totally boggles my mind
Interestingly though - you listed the three key ingredients for this type of playing. So I guess the fourth is just sort of putting it all together. We only shred as fast as our fretting hand can go in terms of true shred technique.... The picking hand learns how to follow it. But back in the day when I used to teach budding shredders, I pretty much told him exactly what you left here in the comment. We started there and worked up - so yeah man you nailed it
@@guitarmeetsscience I stated I was joking due to the unconventional technique displayed with some of these James Hetfields amplified to Mach 3. But yeah as a non-pick using bass player after plucking with two and then three fingers the only other way to gain some speed is play notes you don't pluck. This was a cool video. Thank you.
Haha Yes I totally got the humor. And really you totally nailed it! I envy those who could play bass with three fingers. I was only able to get to two, but the sound that comes from the three finger technique is pretty freaking awesome. Thanks for the kind words brother!! 🙏
Like buying a fast car...there's always another one faster, ha. I'm sure there's someone thats hit the fastest a human can. It's actually mundane at this point. Dave Shankle ex Manowar smokes.
To play anywhere close to these guys you need less than 1mm gap at any fret and no buzz. You don't got that you will never be that fast. The closer the string to the fret the less tension is on the neck and truss rod also distance is decreased making you faster even if your actual speed of movement stays the same. Again, this is not arguable it is simple math which can be proven. I.E if you drive 55mph and go 55 miles, now drive 27.5 miles at 55mph. News flash it will take you 30 min exactly half the time! Reduce resistance and your car using the same energy goes faster and farther as well. The closer you hold a load to the supporting body (in this case the neck) the resistance is exponentially reduced.
@@guitarmeetsscience I always had great guitars but poorly maintained as far as action and fret work. Not horribly playing them but harder than it needed to be. I bought my ESP 200 and had to set it up. I was 30 or so at the time. There were RR riffs I could play but not clean or to speed and NEVER sounded like the album. I actually thought maybe they doctored the recordings because to be that great might be impossible at that speed. Then one day I was playing after about a month of the ESP and thought I just got better until I picked up my LP and could not play what I just played on the ESP. I began looking and was totally amazed that it was just about 1mm difference and a little more fret consistency which made me holy shit better! That is when I began to learn more about luthier work for my own guitars. Now they ALL play very well and I can play most those untouchable riffs which physically seemed impossible for anyone before!! We all changed our speakers amps pickups tubes cables etc etc all of which are very important as a whole though small changes by themselves, but few of us actually corrected our frets and string angles. WOW did I miss the boat for years! You wanna play better learn how to set up and fret level your guitars. It is the SINGLE most important move ever. Also upgrading hardware pieces on the guitar is important like nuts, tuning machines, bridges angle correction and so on.
How freaking cool is that - and yeah 1 mm makes all the difference in the world! Rumor has it Guthrie govan has his action down to .08 mm on the highest fret! To my understanding that would mean one could barely get a piece of paper under there, so his guitar must play like an absolute toy. Makes all the difference in the world! The only exception I've ever seen was SRV. When I did the SRV video at one point I zoomed in on a clip of him and didn't realize that his action must have been literally a quarter inch off the fretboard. I know I sound like I'm going out of my mind, but I started zooming in on a few of his videos and just could not believe how damn high his action was set. So he had 13s and strings where the hell off the fretboard, but I guess that insured that he literally felt every note he played. Thanks for sharing that story - it drives home the point that set up is very important. I appreciate that!
@@guitarmeetsscience SRV was not really noticed as a fast player. I have noted exactly as you stated his action was high by most peoples standard. He played some good stuff for certain but not what anyone considers "fast" something that I have always not liked about his playing (I am like one of the few that seem to be annoyed by this) but he is often slightly not in tune and sometimes sounds like he missed the note briefly. This is likely due to how high his action was because the string tone shifts more if your high action.
The only first 4 guitar player are the real deal not just sort of showmanship of speed, but they played and composed real music, but the rest I don't know or heard about them but based on these video seems that are not accomplished musician like Shawn Lane, Rusty Cooley, Michael Romeo and Chris Impellitteri who are underrated. They're not playing speed for the showmanship but with a purpose.
When I was a young player I heard the old saying, “It’s not what you play, it’s what you don’t play.” and I didn’t get it as a young man. Totally get it now. Nobody talks to you with 1000 words as fast as they can - & if they do you’re likely to look at them like they have lobsters coming out of their ears. What that means is, “play how you might speak, carefully choosing your notes, seeking to to play/speak in phrases complete with pauses/breaths in between. Speed playing is impressive to kids, it’s flashy, but holds not a lot of real musical value for me any longer. I still like some players when they occasionally spaz out but I tend to prefer those that play phrases and not masturbate in public. My two cents.
It's kind of like in basketball. You have teams and they play games against one another, but occasionally they have the slam dunk off. It'd be like telling them it's not when you dunk but when you don't dunk. Those guys are just there to dunk. It's all in good fun. There's a time and place for everything, but in this video I covered the ones who like to play fast. It's fun.
Paul Gilbert, Jason Becker and Joe Stump are all masters of speed. One thing, Speed isn’t everything. Randy did it right. He mixed speed in to create tension. His solos were more of a classical composition than a guitar solo.
@@Truthinshredding1 definitely - the fastest left hand in the business. I focused on alternate pickers here though I should have been more clear in that. I'd say Lane comes closest in terms of left hand though, since he was so strongly influenced by Holdsworth. But yeah, hands down fastest left hand there ever was, though I think marchbank is up there too
Definitely for a buck pound for pound shred guitar player that can rival the likes of Paul Gilbert, these guitar players you feature none other than Andy James
He is a beast of a player in his own right. He doesn't make the speed list, but in terms of actually putting together phrases, the guy is off the charts
There are definitely levels to it, shawn lane and roy marchbank are insanely fast but also musical. Rusty cooley sounds like cats fighting in an alley. MAB at least has good tone but his ideas are boring.
I grew up on 80's hair metal and loved shred guitar. I went to MI in 1986 and had one on one lessons with Paul Gilbert, Frank Gamble, Don Mock etc. Everybody wanted to shred back then. I'm now 56 and it just doesn't interest me anymore. I still like fast playing but it has to be interesting. Playing fast for the sake of speed is boring to me. Mancuso, Govin are more musical than Batio or Cooley. Just my .02c.
Guthrie govan and mancuso both are really at the top in terms of all around players.. beasts. That is awesome that you got to study with Paul and Frank - I'm a huge fan of both of them. That must have been a lot of fun
@@guitarmeetsscience Now reading my post I realize I sound a bit critical. I do love shred but as I've aged my tastes have changed. Thanks for the reply and keep up the great vids! Oh and Max Ostro is a beast as well.
This is what I told my wife before she married me 🤷🏻♂️ I've yet to impress her, but lots of stuff happens. Sometimes I'll even light a candle for effect.
John Taylor is a fraud. He admits it himself. He says in a video that he wasn't accurate even at 350 bpm. He goes on, "Guinness gave me the record for fastest guitar player for playing Flight of the Bumblebee at 600 BPM, and then 620 BPM. After learning more about my playing, I decided to take a look at the original footage sent to Guinness. I did not pick every note in my performance. Therefore, I did not break a world record. I truly believe that any guitar speed record needs to have every single note being picked. Because I did not do what I said needs to be done, I want to tell everyone the truth." Troy Grady clocked John Taylor at 24 notes per second tremolo picking. Let's do the math: 16th notes - 4 per beat 24 notes per second 24÷4=6 beats per second 6 beats × 60 sec = 360 bpm Even if he played the song at his max tremolo speed accurately, he could only reach 360 bpm. Sorry, Truth is Truth! 🌎✌🎶🎸
Now THIS is the type of comment I was hoping to get. Love the breakdown, and you are welcome to come geek out on my channel anytime. Love that stuff man Thank you!!!
I'm tapping 1000 bpm while running downhill at 60 miles per hour😂Anyway, solos should have a meaning and a soul and not to be boring.I loved Malmsteen for a while, but not anymore.He became boring after a few good albums, and he became a jerk.On a fretboard, also as a person.
Some sounds like shit. It's like after Vietnam when they had to take the full auto switchoff the M16. Wasteful nonsense. The articulation has died, the feeling is not there.
"Yeah but can they write a song?" ..... I dunno... Can they play the drums? ... How well do they make pasta? This video is only about how fast they can play that's it.
Can they make pasta?😂 These guys are super fast!
I'm that John Taylor you mentioned, and no, I did NOT play FOTB at 600 bpm. What Guinness said I did is WRONG. I never played that fast, and nobody can. Did I try? Yes! I relied on Guinness to verify what I actually played. I was hoping to get the 400 bpm I tried (which I also did NOT do).
Count my pick strokes in those videos and you'll see I did not play fast enough. In the original performance to break the record you can see I no longer pick fast enough past 300 bpm. The fastest I've officially been clocked at is in a video Troy Grady (Cracking the Code) did with me, and it was at 24 notes per second on a single string, which is a LOT different than playing all over the fretboard. 24 notes per second is a FAR cry from the supposed 40 notes per second Guinness said I did.
That fastest guitar player world record is and was an absolute joke, and shame on me for thinking I even came close to those absurd speeds. I'm embarrassed by that record nonsense, and now do my absolute best to focus on accuracy instead of speed, and preach accuracy above speed to my students all the time.
Honored to see you here John!
Imagine my shock. In Memphis on business and stumbling into a club for Shawn Lane's "Powers Of Ten" release party. It bordered on a religious experience.
That had to have been freaking awesome
Thanks for the very beautiful compilation indeed
Glad you enjoyed it
Roy's a very interesting dude. Got to speak with him several times and his philosophy around his techniques and way of living is very refined. Dude has everything down to a science and his practice schedule is insane. Man barely gets any sleep. Nice chap.
Very cool!!!!
jason becker paul gibert and buckethead are killer speed players
They definitely are, and Paul Gilbert in his younger years definitely would be able to make this list on a Mark consistent basis. Jason Becker was different in that he had this mastery of sweeping that was second to none. That would be a whole other area of study, and this one I am tackling just pure speed picking. But you're right all three phenomenal players
Roy Marchback is basically a living Shawn Lane. His technique is unbelievable, and the way he nails Lane's parts is amazing.
That's a good way of putting it right there!
Hey Brother, long time, no see. This is GREAT!!! I love shred, although, I did have to turn down my shredding a bit & play more melodiclly, due to a bad case of 'A-Fib', my heart rate would speed up to 140-150 BPM's , and was literally just sitting down resting, so not only did I have change my diet, but also my activity. I did a test with my Kardia Mobil app, after my intense picking exercise, my heart rate would speed up, it got so bad that I had to cancel my New Year's day gig this year ( 2024). So I hope all these guys don't ever have to go through this because it will definitely change you. Still, this is a GREAT video!!! Rock On Brother & God Bless.
Wow Dave!! I'm freaking floored man - I had no idea that it could actually have that effect. I'm glad to hear that you were able to one be healthy that's the number one thing and two that you could still be jamming. And of course you've got a serious lock on the melodic as well so no doubt it doesn't matter what you're doing that guitar is going to sound amazing in your hands. But it is really quite freaky how the heart is tied to what we are doing. You get so vested in playing that literally the entire body gets involved. Fascinating and scary at the same time. Thanks for sharing that with me brother I hope you stay healthy! God bless 🤘🤘
Also, honorable mention to Michael Paouris. His playing is absolutely absurd. I'd even go so far as to say he's our modern day Shawn Lane, though he's primarily an acoustic and classical music performer. His speed is absurd, his phrasing is incredible, and his endurance is nothing like I've ever seen. He's truly remarkable and deserves a video of his own.
Sheesh man.... Just went and checked him out. Absolute beast of a player!!!! On acoustic nonetheless.... Thanks for the recommendation!
Loved fast players when I was young. I still listened time to time. Those Rusty Cooley instructionals were top of the top in terms of technical and speed.
That guy could seriously rip on the guitar!!!
ik someone else said it already but buckethead and jason becker are awesome theyre both in my top 5 jason in the top 1
Ooohhh Michael Romeo is a f*cking beast! So happy he's mentioned here! 😍🤘
He really is, though man it's hard to find a decent recording of him just by himself. Most are very low quality unfortunately but the playing certainly comes through
Dude , This is Awesome , Glad you put yourself in there , Dude your a shredder !!!
Thank you brother man!!! Hahaha had to slip that one in just for the fun of it lol. Much appreciated!!!
Vinnie Vincent isn't part of that "club". His playing at a higher speed is very sloppy.
No not necessarily, but he was going for it got to give him that
Vinnie Vincent didn't play sloppy...not even more sloppy than most of the others here when they play fast...he just has a much harder picking and plays completely different scales...not just pentatonics, but also a lot of jazz and country or bluegrass stuff...most people just don't understand it because they mostly only know the neo-classical stuff from Malmsteen or Paul Gilbert or others!
Whether you like Vinnie or not...he is one of the pioneers of the early 80s when it comes to fast guitar playing in rock music, that's a fact, because Vinnie had already played very fast solos in his shows in 1982 and 1983 on the Creatures of the Night and Lick It Up Tour with Kiss...that was a year before Malmsteen came out with the band Steeler...
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Live he sounds like a kid who bought his first guitar 3 days ago, and tries to play as fast as possible. Aside from the sloppy playing, there's zero phrasing.
It does not sound good at all.
Vinnie could actually play quite well when he wasn't trying to be super fast. He lacked the control and hand synchronization that it takes to play clean at high speeds.
@@MrClassicmetal if that's your opinion then it's okay...but then you still have to learn a lot about playing the guitar
Shawn was double jointed in both hands.. So was his sister Mitzi. Shawn was just wired differently. People think its all about hours of practice.. Wrong. He was an Anomaly.. A once in a lifetime Phenomenon♥️
Davide Lo Surdo is a Music Legend. He has been honored with a Bronze Statue in Denmark last week.
That is awesome - his name is definitely getting out there!
Vinnie Vincent rules! All that crazy stuff he does still impress me everytime I heard it. Using that crazy chicken picking stuff during the fast solos it's impossible to replicate. That guy was a genius!
He really is - I like how he just goes for it... highly underrated player
Great video. I'd add Anton Oparin. Talk about an extremely clean technique!
When is the video on the John Petrucci Psycho Exercises incident coming???!
Good call - between those and Steve Vai you're talking some serious workout routines
Give me Vai over Petrucci every day of the week 🤘
@@EnigmaticAnamoly that's fair but please don't let Petrucci hear you say that. I fear how he would punish mankind.
Agreed I'm so glad your giving respect to shawn who is just amazing I learned his 5 string hammer on technique absolutely no pull off going to the lower notes instead of high ones nothing like sweep picking but you get it fast there are seriously millions of different things you can do with it in any scale because it's all hammer ons it has a smooth sound that people will confus thinking it's sweep but its not you actually pick 3 times every 2 strings just fucking amazing the way shawn did was insane super long reach but for me the technique changed so much of my shred playing it's not something I do all the time but I still love to shred sometimes and shawn was the best
WOW! Tu as presque l'air de savoir de quoi tu parles, shreddit
Oh you got really deep into his technique - very freaking cool man!
90s Buckethead was really freaking fast too, though not as much as these dudes
More importantly Buckethead writes some great stuff. Guys in this video don't even know what it means to actually write a song.
@@cooljp1531 That’s not a fair assumption, people made that same assumption about Bucket himself.
Michael Romero writes some great neoclassical stuff, and SHAWN LANE is literally Buckethead’s favorite musician ever, he is a WONDERFUL composer AND melodic improviser
Definitely, and bucket heads interesting approach adds so much intensity to it that a lot of these players have to work hard to get. Buckethead is a natural
I love speed guitar players as well as my friends, who cares about emotion.🤭playing fast and faster is really impressive..More is More! 😂🤘
Have I got a guitarist recommendation for you: Richard Benson 🤘🤣🤘
man! shaun Lane was an insane guitar player... speedy, full of technique and great phrasing and feeling when playing! Guitar world lost one of his most valuable soldiers when he passed away... DEP Shaun.
Exactly right brother!!! Shawn was a humble genius all the way 🤘🤘
Finally! Someone has recognized the amazing skills of Shawn Lane! R.I.P. Thank you!
Thank you - Lane was freaking amazing
Vinny played a ton of chromatic stuff. At least the other guitarist you mention, especially Randy, played beautifully. He used speed like Composers use speed. To tell a story.
Randy was in his own class
No Anton Oparin? He definitely should've made this list.. I mean he was playing P.G.'s Scarified damn near our the womb🤘
An honorable mention goes to ROBERTO BARROS. The guy plays insanely fast with the most economy of movement I've ever seen. His work with Edu Falaschi is out of this world
Just checked him out.... Dude is a beast! Thanks for the recommendation!!!
"Natural born musical demon!" absolutely.
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Shawn Lane is numero uno, that's for sure.
That bit about Shawn Lane was SO perfect. He played fast as shit ONLY because he was passionate, and not because of ego. So many people get that shit twisted. I can not stand snobby-ass, jealous assclowns who down other players just because they suck compared to them.
Bam - you said it right there bro. That's exactly how I feel about a lot of these people who slam those players. It's kind of weird because if they were really making the point about enjoying slow playing more, there would be more substance to their arguments. But yeah - you totally nailed it man!
The comments in these kind of videos never surprise lol
Hahaha I'm expecting a ton of those lol
You mentioned Vinnie Vincent in the same sentence with those other names and made me spit my drink everywhere.
Blasphemous at the very least. To focus on the speed misses the whole point of the greats when they light it up.
Most super fast guitarist sound horrible, and most can't wait to turn it off.
Whether you like Vinnie or not...he is one of the pioneers of the early 80s when it comes to fast guitar playing in rock music, that's a fact, because Vinnie had already played fast solos in his shows in 1982 and 1983 on the Creatures of the Night and Lick It Up Tour with Kiss...that was a year before Malmsteen came out with the band Steeler...
How in the actual fuck can Davide play this fast while actually maximizing movement? There has to be some bionic precision in his arm or something
Haha Man you got me..... Because he really gets that hand moving back and forth extremely fast, and somehow it works for him. Totally went across the grain in terms of when they talk about minimizing movement. I wish I could tell you honestly man but I can't.... Totally boggles my mind
RUSTY coley è il chitarrista più veloce al mondo!!! Mettetevelo bene in testa
It's just tremolo picking, hammer ons and pull offs........I am so very much joking.
Interestingly though - you listed the three key ingredients for this type of playing. So I guess the fourth is just sort of putting it all together. We only shred as fast as our fretting hand can go in terms of true shred technique.... The picking hand learns how to follow it. But back in the day when I used to teach budding shredders, I pretty much told him exactly what you left here in the comment. We started there and worked up - so yeah man you nailed it
@@guitarmeetsscience I stated I was joking due to the unconventional technique displayed with some of these James Hetfields amplified to Mach 3. But yeah as a non-pick using bass player after plucking with two and then three fingers the only other way to gain some speed is play notes you don't pluck. This was a cool video. Thank you.
Haha Yes I totally got the humor. And really you totally nailed it! I envy those who could play bass with three fingers. I was only able to get to two, but the sound that comes from the three finger technique is pretty freaking awesome. Thanks for the kind words brother!! 🙏
@@guitarmeetsscience your welcome.
Are you able to do a video on Jeff Loomis please?
He's been on the bucket list for a while - great player!
Like buying a fast car...there's always another one faster, ha. I'm sure there's someone thats hit the fastest a human can. It's actually mundane at this point. Dave Shankle ex Manowar smokes.
To play anywhere close to these guys you need less than 1mm gap at any fret and no buzz. You don't got that you will never be that fast. The closer the string to the fret the less tension is on the neck and truss rod also distance is decreased making you faster even if your actual speed of movement stays the same. Again, this is not arguable it is simple math which can be proven. I.E if you drive 55mph and go 55 miles, now drive 27.5 miles at 55mph. News flash it will take you 30 min exactly half the time! Reduce resistance and your car using the same energy goes faster and farther as well. The closer you hold a load to the supporting body (in this case the neck) the resistance is exponentially reduced.
Exactly right -That plays a huge part
@@guitarmeetsscience I always had great guitars but poorly maintained as far as action and fret work. Not horribly playing them but harder than it needed to be. I bought my ESP 200 and had to set it up. I was 30 or so at the time. There were RR riffs I could play but not clean or to speed and NEVER sounded like the album. I actually thought maybe they doctored the recordings because to be that great might be impossible at that speed. Then one day I was playing after about a month of the ESP and thought I just got better until I picked up my LP and could not play what I just played on the ESP. I began looking and was totally amazed that it was just about 1mm difference and a little more fret consistency which made me holy shit better! That is when I began to learn more about luthier work for my own guitars. Now they ALL play very well and I can play most those untouchable riffs which physically seemed impossible for anyone before!! We all changed our speakers amps pickups tubes cables etc etc all of which are very important as a whole though small changes by themselves, but few of us actually corrected our frets and string angles. WOW did I miss the boat for years! You wanna play better learn how to set up and fret level your guitars. It is the SINGLE most important move ever. Also upgrading hardware pieces on the guitar is important like nuts, tuning machines, bridges angle correction and so on.
How freaking cool is that - and yeah 1 mm makes all the difference in the world! Rumor has it Guthrie govan has his action down to .08 mm on the highest fret! To my understanding that would mean one could barely get a piece of paper under there, so his guitar must play like an absolute toy. Makes all the difference in the world! The only exception I've ever seen was SRV. When I did the SRV video at one point I zoomed in on a clip of him and didn't realize that his action must have been literally a quarter inch off the fretboard. I know I sound like I'm going out of my mind, but I started zooming in on a few of his videos and just could not believe how damn high his action was set. So he had 13s and strings where the hell off the fretboard, but I guess that insured that he literally felt every note he played. Thanks for sharing that story - it drives home the point that set up is very important. I appreciate that!
@@guitarmeetsscience SRV was not really noticed as a fast player. I have noted exactly as you stated his action was high by most peoples standard. He played some good stuff for certain but not what anyone considers "fast" something that I have always not liked about his playing (I am like one of the few that seem to be annoyed by this) but he is often slightly not in tune and sometimes sounds like he missed the note briefly. This is likely due to how high his action was because the string tone shifts more if your high action.
where’s Stephen Taranto??? Deserves to be mentioned here for sure
The only first 4 guitar player are the real deal not just sort of showmanship of speed, but they played and composed real music, but the rest I don't know or heard about them but based on these video seems that are not accomplished musician like Shawn Lane, Rusty Cooley, Michael Romeo and Chris Impellitteri who are underrated. They're not playing speed for the showmanship but with a purpose.
What about SPIRO?
Another phenomenal player
When I was a young player I heard the old saying, “It’s not what you play, it’s what you don’t play.” and I didn’t get it as a young man.
Totally get it now. Nobody talks to you with 1000 words as fast as they can - & if they do you’re likely to look at them like they have lobsters coming out of their ears.
What that means is, “play how you might speak, carefully choosing your notes, seeking to to play/speak in phrases complete with pauses/breaths in between.
Speed playing is impressive to kids, it’s flashy, but holds not a lot of real musical value for me any longer.
I still like some players when they occasionally spaz out but I tend to prefer those that play phrases and not masturbate in public.
My two cents.
It's kind of like in basketball. You have teams and they play games against one another, but occasionally they have the slam dunk off. It'd be like telling them it's not when you dunk but when you don't dunk. Those guys are just there to dunk. It's all in good fun. There's a time and place for everything, but in this video I covered the ones who like to play fast. It's fun.
Paul Gilbert, Jason Becker and Joe Stump are all masters of speed. One thing, Speed isn’t everything. Randy did it right. He mixed speed in to create tension. His solos were more of a classical composition than a guitar solo.
Although these players may be faster, none of them play as beautifully as Randy Rhodes
Shawn Lane did
Shawn Lane
Nobody talk about George Bellas?
Great player
Anyone remeber glen proudfoot?
I do - total beast of a player as well
I vote Shawn Lane
Shawn lane. That’s all you needed to show no one else is half as fast.
Roy is technically faster than
... Allan Holdsworth...
@@Truthinshredding1 definitely - the fastest left hand in the business. I focused on alternate pickers here though I should have been more clear in that. I'd say Lane comes closest in terms of left hand though, since he was so strongly influenced by Holdsworth. But yeah, hands down fastest left hand there ever was, though I think marchbank is up there too
very nice
Thank you kindly
Definitely for a buck pound for pound shred guitar player that can rival the likes of Paul Gilbert, these guitar players you feature none other than Andy James
Andy is a beast as well and of course so is Paul
Tosin Abasi
I like Tosin but he's not that fast.
He is a beast of a player in his own right. He doesn't make the speed list, but in terms of actually putting together phrases, the guy is off the charts
There are definitely levels to it, shawn lane and roy marchbank are insanely fast but also musical. Rusty cooley sounds like cats fighting in an alley. MAB at least has good tone but his ideas are boring.
0:2 ? guy needs to learn how to relax and play fast at the same time or he's in for a heart attack. silly.
Matthew Mills
I grew up on 80's hair metal and loved shred guitar. I went to MI in 1986 and had one on one lessons with Paul Gilbert, Frank Gamble, Don Mock etc. Everybody wanted to shred back then. I'm now 56 and it just doesn't interest me anymore. I still like fast playing but it has to be interesting. Playing fast for the sake of speed is boring to me. Mancuso, Govin are more musical than Batio or Cooley. Just my .02c.
Guthrie govan and mancuso both are really at the top in terms of all around players.. beasts. That is awesome that you got to study with Paul and Frank - I'm a huge fan of both of them. That must have been a lot of fun
@@guitarmeetsscience Now reading my post I realize I sound a bit critical. I do love shred but as I've aged my tastes have changed. Thanks for the reply and keep up the great vids! Oh and Max Ostro is a beast as well.
Vinnie was Corey Feldman fast
Fast doesnt impress me. and super boring slow doesnt either. Wanna impress me? Blow my mind at a medium speed
This is what I told my wife before she married me 🤷🏻♂️ I've yet to impress her, but lots of stuff happens.
Sometimes I'll even light a candle for effect.
Ah, a video like this one wouldn't be complete minus that usual comment.😆
Good for you?
@@captainshiner42yep
It's true - that really is actually probably the most technical level of playing is that medium speed.
John Taylor is a fraud. He admits it himself. He says in a video that he wasn't accurate even at 350 bpm. He goes on, "Guinness gave me the record for fastest guitar player for playing Flight of the Bumblebee at 600 BPM, and then 620 BPM.
After learning more about my playing, I decided to take a look at the original footage sent to Guinness. I did not pick every note in my performance. Therefore, I did not break a world record.
I truly believe that any guitar speed record needs to have every single note being picked. Because I did not do what I said needs to be done, I want to tell everyone the truth."
Troy Grady clocked John Taylor at 24 notes per second tremolo picking.
Let's do the math:
16th notes - 4 per beat
24 notes per second
24÷4=6 beats per second
6 beats × 60 sec = 360 bpm
Even if he played the song at his max tremolo speed accurately, he could only reach 360 bpm.
Sorry, Truth is Truth!
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Now THIS is the type of comment I was hoping to get. Love the breakdown, and you are welcome to come geek out on my channel anytime. Love that stuff man Thank you!!!
I'm tapping 1000 bpm while running downhill at 60 miles per hour😂Anyway, solos should have a meaning and a soul and not to be boring.I loved Malmsteen for a while, but not anymore.He became boring after a few good albums, and he became a jerk.On a fretboard, also as a person.
I never liked fast guitar playing, give me one note and I can put more emotion and it can be heard, then someone playing a million notes a second.
How can Skwisgar Skwigelf not be on this list! World's fastest guitarist by far!!!
Instantly hooked! He even does the Steve Vai circular vibrato without ruining his hands. 🤘🤘 I'm not worthy!!!
Some sounds like shit. It's like after Vietnam when they had to take the full auto switchoff the M16. Wasteful nonsense. The articulation has died, the feeling is not there.